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I'll have to try that. I always use 1c flour, 1c corn meal.
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >-------- ------------ -------------------------------- > 2 eggs > 2 cups buttermilk > 1 teaspoon baking soda > 2 cups corn meal > 1 teaspoon salt |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote on 15 Oct 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... > > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: > > > >>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as > >>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your > >>special cornbread recipe? > >> > >>TammyM > > > > > > Here is mine. > > > > > > * Exported from MasterCook * > > > > Corn Bread > > > > Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book > > Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 > > Categories : Breads > > > > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method > > -------- ------------ -------------------------------- > > 2 eggs > > 2 cups buttermilk > > 1 teaspoon baking soda > > 2 cups corn meal > > 1 teaspoon salt > > > > Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn stick > > pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing batter. > > > > Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just > > until smooth. > > > > Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes > > for corn bread. > > > > > > Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 > > Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it > in a preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. > > I also use stone-ground cornmeal. > Mine is similar to Wayne's except I add creamed corn and minced green chiles. I also on occassion add one or all of these as well: grated cheddar cheese, jalapeno peppers, crumbled bacon; all to taste. |
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Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 08:05:26p, Mr Libido Incognito meant to say...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote on 15 Oct 2006 in rec.food.cooking > >> Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... >> >> > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: >> > >> >>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as >> >>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your >> >>special cornbread recipe? >> >> >> >>TammyM >> > >> > >> > Here is mine. >> > >> > >> > * Exported from MasterCook * >> > >> > Corn Bread >> > >> > Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book >> > Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 >> > Categories : Breads >> > >> > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >> > -------- ------------ -------------------------------- >> > 2 eggs >> > 2 cups buttermilk >> > 1 teaspoon baking soda >> > 2 cups corn meal >> > 1 teaspoon salt >> > >> > Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn stick >> > pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing batter. >> > >> > Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just >> > until smooth. >> > >> > Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes >> > for corn bread. >> > >> > >> > Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 >> >> Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it >> in a preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. >> >> I also use stone-ground cornmeal. >> > > Mine is similar to Wayne's except I add creamed corn and minced green > chiles. I also on occassion add one or all of these as well: grated > cheddar cheese, jalapeno peppers, crumbled bacon; all to taste. That's a good combination, Alan. When I make something like that, I usually also add sour cream, and serve it by spooning it out rather than cutting it into squares or wedges. Good stuff! -- Wayne Boatwright __________________________________________________ Hey, you've got a third eye! Uh, never mind... it's just a spot of dirt in the middle of your forehead. |
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On 16 Oct 2006 04:02:16 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
<wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: >Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... > >> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: >> >>>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as >>>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your >>>special cornbread recipe? >>> >>>TammyM >> >> >> Here is mine. >> >> >> * Exported from MasterCook * >> >> Corn Bread >> >> Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book >> Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 >> Categories : Breads >> >> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >> -------- ------------ -------------------------------- >> 2 eggs >> 2 cups buttermilk >> 1 teaspoon baking soda >> 2 cups corn meal >> 1 teaspoon salt >> >> Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn stick >> pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing batter. >> >> Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just until >> smooth. >> >> Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes for >> corn bread. >> >> >> Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 > >Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it in a >preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. > >I also use stone-ground cornmeal. I have been using a combination of a white corn meal and a yellow coarse ground meal (polenta type.) I also use a preheated cast iron skillet with a little bacon grease melted in it an poured into the mix. The white corn meal comes from an old mill about 10 miles from me. I managed to get the meal before they made it self rising. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974 |
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![]() "The Cook" > wrote in message ... > On 16 Oct 2006 04:02:16 +0200, Wayne Boatwright > <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: > >>Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... >> >>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: >>> >>>>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as >>>>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your >>>>special cornbread recipe? >>>> >>>>TammyM >>> >>> >>> Here is mine. >>> >>> >>> * Exported from MasterCook * >>> >>> Corn Bread >>> >>> Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book >>> Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 >>> Categories : Breads >>> >>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >>> -------- ------------ -------------------------------- >>> 2 eggs >>> 2 cups buttermilk >>> 1 teaspoon baking soda >>> 2 cups corn meal >>> 1 teaspoon salt >>> >>> Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn stick >>> pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing batter. >>> >>> Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just until >>> smooth. >>> >>> Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes for >>> corn bread. >>> >>> >>> Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 >> >>Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it in a >>preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. >> >>I also use stone-ground cornmeal. > > > I have been using a combination of a white corn meal and a yellow > coarse ground meal (polenta type.) I also use a preheated cast iron > skillet with a little bacon grease melted in it an poured into the > mix. > > The white corn meal comes from an old mill about 10 miles from me. I > managed to get the meal before they made it self rising. > -- > Susan N. I mostly do that too. I use less than 1/4 cp of flour and coarse cornmeal and polenta to make up the 2cps. I do add about a tsp. of sugar and lots of freshly ground pepper. |
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Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 05:12:29a, The Cook meant to say...
> On 16 Oct 2006 04:02:16 +0200, Wayne Boatwright > <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: > >>Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... >> >>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: >>> >>>>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as >>>>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your >>>>special cornbread recipe? >>>> >>>>TammyM >>> >>> >>> Here is mine. >>> >>> >>> * Exported from MasterCook * >>> >>> Corn Bread >>> >>> Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book >>> Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 >>> Categories : Breads >>> >>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >>> -------- ------------ -------------------------------- >>> 2 eggs >>> 2 cups buttermilk >>> 1 teaspoon baking soda >>> 2 cups corn meal >>> 1 teaspoon salt >>> >>> Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn stick >>> pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing batter. >>> >>> Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just until >>> smooth. >>> >>> Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes for >>> corn bread. >>> >>> >>> Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 >> >>Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it in a >>preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. >> >>I also use stone-ground cornmeal. > > > I have been using a combination of a white corn meal and a yellow > coarse ground meal (polenta type.) I also use a preheated cast iron > skillet with a little bacon grease melted in it an poured into the > mix. That mixture sounds interesting, Susan. I like using bacon grease if I have it on hand, but we don't eat a lot of bacon. :-( > The white corn meal comes from an old mill about 10 miles from me. I > managed to get the meal before they made it self rising. There's nothing quite like stone ground cornmeal. -- Wayne Boatwright __________________________________________________ We don't know who discovered water, but we're pretty sure it wasn't a fish. |
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The Cook said...
> On 16 Oct 2006 04:02:16 +0200, Wayne Boatwright > <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: > >>Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... >> >>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: >>> >>>>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as >>>>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your >>>>special cornbread recipe? >>>> >>>>TammyM >>> >>> >>> Here is mine. >>> >>> >>> * Exported from MasterCook * >>> >>> Corn Bread >>> >>> Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book >>> Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 >>> Categories : Breads >>> >>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >>> -------- ------------ -------------------------------- >>> 2 eggs >>> 2 cups buttermilk >>> 1 teaspoon baking soda >>> 2 cups corn meal >>> 1 teaspoon salt >>> >>> Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn stick >>> pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing batter. >>> >>> Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just >>> until smooth. >>> >>> Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes >>> for corn bread. >>> >>> >>> Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 >> >>Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it >>in a preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. >> >>I also use stone-ground cornmeal. > > > I have been using a combination of a white corn meal and a yellow > coarse ground meal (polenta type.) I also use a preheated cast iron > skillet with a little bacon grease melted in it an poured into the > mix. > > The white corn meal comes from an old mill about 10 miles from me. I > managed to get the meal before they made it self rising. Sadly, I've rarely ventured beyond Jiffy cornbread mix. Then I end up making popovers instead. My scratch cornbread almost always turns out gritty and crumbles too easily. Maybe an oven temp issue. Andy |
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Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 05:47:55a, Andy meant to say...
> The Cook said... > >> On 16 Oct 2006 04:02:16 +0200, Wayne Boatwright >> <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... >>> >>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: >>>> >>>>>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as >>>>>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your >>>>>special cornbread recipe? >>>>> >>>>>TammyM >>>> >>>> >>>> Here is mine. >>>> >>>> >>>> * Exported from MasterCook * >>>> >>>> Corn Bread >>>> >>>> Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book >>>> Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 >>>> Categories : Breads >>>> >>>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >>>> -------- ------------ -------------------------------- >>>> 2 eggs >>>> 2 cups buttermilk >>>> 1 teaspoon baking soda >>>> 2 cups corn meal >>>> 1 teaspoon salt >>>> >>>> Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn stick >>>> pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing batter. >>>> >>>> Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just >>>> until smooth. >>>> >>>> Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes >>>> for corn bread. >>>> >>>> >>>> Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 >>> >>>Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it >>>in a preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. >>> >>>I also use stone-ground cornmeal. >> >> >> I have been using a combination of a white corn meal and a yellow >> coarse ground meal (polenta type.) I also use a preheated cast iron >> skillet with a little bacon grease melted in it an poured into the >> mix. >> >> The white corn meal comes from an old mill about 10 miles from me. I >> managed to get the meal before they made it self rising. > > > Sadly, I've rarely ventured beyond Jiffy cornbread mix. Then I end up > making popovers instead. My scratch cornbread almost always turns out > gritty and crumbles too easily. Maybe an oven temp issue. Good southern style cornbread *is* gritty, but it should also be moist and not too crumbly. It *must* be a very hot oven of 425-450*, and the skillet *must* be preheated to the smoking point of the fat put in it. You may also not be using enough fat. For the proportions of the batter above, I use about 1/3 cup of shortening or bacon fat, melted in the skillet while it's preheating, then most of it stirred vigorously into the batter before pouring the batter into the pan. Quick work of it is important. Also, the typical supermarket cornmeal (like Quaker), is much too fine. It produces a dry powdery texture. Using coarse stone-ground meal and buttermilk will produce a cornbread that's steaming and moist. -- Wayne Boatwright __________________________________________________ We don't know who discovered water, but we're pretty sure it wasn't a fish. |
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Wayne Boatwright said...
> Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 05:47:55a, Andy meant to say... > >> The Cook said... >> >>> On 16 Oct 2006 04:02:16 +0200, Wayne Boatwright >>> <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as >>>>>>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your >>>>>>special cornbread recipe? >>>>>> >>>>>>TammyM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is mine. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> * Exported from MasterCook * >>>>> >>>>> Corn Bread >>>>> >>>>> Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book >>>>> Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 >>>>> Categories : Breads >>>>> >>>>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >>>>> -------- ------------ -------------------------------- >>>>> 2 eggs >>>>> 2 cups buttermilk >>>>> 1 teaspoon baking soda >>>>> 2 cups corn meal >>>>> 1 teaspoon salt >>>>> >>>>> Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn >>>>> stick pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing >>>>> batter. >>>>> >>>>> Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just >>>>> until smooth. >>>>> >>>>> Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes >>>>> for corn bread. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 >>>> >>>>Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it >>>>in a preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. >>>> >>>>I also use stone-ground cornmeal. >>> >>> >>> I have been using a combination of a white corn meal and a yellow >>> coarse ground meal (polenta type.) I also use a preheated cast iron >>> skillet with a little bacon grease melted in it an poured into the >>> mix. >>> >>> The white corn meal comes from an old mill about 10 miles from me. >>> I managed to get the meal before they made it self rising. >> >> >> Sadly, I've rarely ventured beyond Jiffy cornbread mix. Then I end up >> making popovers instead. My scratch cornbread almost always turns out >> gritty and crumbles too easily. Maybe an oven temp issue. > > Good southern style cornbread *is* gritty, but it should also be moist > and not too crumbly. It *must* be a very hot oven of 425-450*, and > the skillet *must* be preheated to the smoking point of the fat put in > it. You may also not be using enough fat. For the proportions of the > batter above, I use about 1/3 cup of shortening or bacon fat, melted > in the skillet while it's preheating, then most of it stirred > vigorously into the batter before pouring the batter into the pan. > Quick work of it is important. Also, the typical supermarket cornmeal > (like Quaker), is much too fine. It produces a dry powdery texture. > Using coarse stone-ground meal and buttermilk will produce a cornbread > that's steaming and moist. Wayne, Thanks for the pointers. I never tried a cast iron skillet, only a pyrex baking dish. I'll certainly have another go AND be sure to measure the oven temp with a digital probe thermometer. If it turns out better (which it will ![]() often. Thanks, Andy |
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Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 06:20:49a, Andy meant to say...
> Wayne Boatwright said... > >> Oh pshaw, on Mon 16 Oct 2006 05:47:55a, Andy meant to say... >> >>> The Cook said... >>> >>>> On 16 Oct 2006 04:02:16 +0200, Wayne Boatwright >>>> <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Oh pshaw, on Sun 15 Oct 2006 03:49:45p, The Cook meant to say... >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:14 GMT, (TammyM) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Fixin' to make some for dinner. Along with the black bean soup as >>>>>>>it's turned out to be a cool enough day for such. So what's your >>>>>>>special cornbread recipe? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>TammyM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is mine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> * Exported from MasterCook * >>>>>> >>>>>> Corn Bread >>>>>> >>>>>> Recipe By :Betty Crocker Cook Book >>>>>> Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 >>>>>> Categories : Breads >>>>>> >>>>>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >>>>>> -------- ------------ -------------------------------- >>>>>> 2 eggs >>>>>> 2 cups buttermilk >>>>>> 1 teaspoon baking soda >>>>>> 2 cups corn meal >>>>>> 1 teaspoon salt >>>>>> >>>>>> Heat oven to 450° F. Generously grease 12 muffin cups or corn >>>>>> stick pans or a square pan 9X9X1 3/4". Heat in oven while mixing >>>>>> batter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beat eggs. Beat in other ingredients with a rotary beater just >>>>>> until smooth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bake 10 to 15 minutes for corn sticks or muffins; 20 to 25 minutes >>>>>> for corn bread. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Copyright: Betty Crocker Cookbook 1960 >>>>> >>>>>Exactly the ingredients and proportions I use, except that I bake it >>>>>in a preheated sizzling hot black iron skillet. >>>>> >>>>>I also use stone-ground cornmeal. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have been using a combination of a white corn meal and a yellow >>>> coarse ground meal (polenta type.) I also use a preheated cast iron >>>> skillet with a little bacon grease melted in it an poured into the >>>> mix. >>>> >>>> The white corn meal comes from an old mill about 10 miles from me. >>>> I managed to get the meal before they made it self rising. >>> >>> >>> Sadly, I've rarely ventured beyond Jiffy cornbread mix. Then I end up >>> making popovers instead. My scratch cornbread almost always turns out >>> gritty and crumbles too easily. Maybe an oven temp issue. >> >> Good southern style cornbread *is* gritty, but it should also be moist >> and not too crumbly. It *must* be a very hot oven of 425-450*, and >> the skillet *must* be preheated to the smoking point of the fat put in >> it. You may also not be using enough fat. For the proportions of the >> batter above, I use about 1/3 cup of shortening or bacon fat, melted >> in the skillet while it's preheating, then most of it stirred >> vigorously into the batter before pouring the batter into the pan. >> Quick work of it is important. Also, the typical supermarket cornmeal >> (like Quaker), is much too fine. It produces a dry powdery texture. >> Using coarse stone-ground meal and buttermilk will produce a cornbread >> that's steaming and moist. > > > Wayne, > > Thanks for the pointers. I never tried a cast iron skillet, only a pyrex > baking dish. > > I'll certainly have another go AND be sure to measure the oven temp with > a digital probe thermometer. > > If it turns out better (which it will ![]() > often. > > Thanks, > > Andy > You're most welcome, sir! -- Wayne Boatwright __________________________________________________ We don't know who discovered water, but we're pretty sure it wasn't a fish. |
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On 2006-10-16, Andy <q> wrote:
> gritty and crumbles too easily. Add an extra egg. nb |
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