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![]() cybercat wrote: > > I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a myth. I have a long and convoluted post in my head explaining why it isn't but I'm not up to writing it down tonight. Maybe if I get a second-wind tomorrow...Basically it has to do with calcium ions in your blood, which distilled (aka "hungry water") will bond with, lowering the calcium bioavaliability. When the amount of calcium in the body drops, and none is being taken in via diet, the body will replentish calcium ions from bones and other tissues. One way to remedy that is to take calcium supplements in conjunction with other essential minerals and vitamins necessary for calcium assimilation, but the RDA for calcium is extremely high, so even without drinking dH2O, you need to be supplementing. I don't drink a specific brand of water but usually pick spring water that is purified by RO and microfiltered, minimally. The purest form of water a human can produce is double-distilled deioninzed water (ddDI H2O), but the deionization filter systems are extremely expensive. There are some waters that are naturally higher in calcium (I forget which brands), but they feel "dry" in the mouth and generally aren't as palatable as other brands. -L. |
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![]() "-L." > wrote in message ups.com... > > cybercat wrote: >> >> I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a myth. > > I have a long and convoluted post in my head explaining why it isn't > but I'm not up to writing it down tonight. Maybe if I get a > second-wind tomorrow...Basically it has to do with calcium ions in your > blood, which distilled (aka "hungry water") will bond with, lowering > the calcium bioavaliability. That makes more sense. When the amount of calcium in the body > drops, and none is being taken in via diet, the body will replentish > calcium ions from bones and other tissues. One way to remedy that is > to take calcium supplements in conjunction with other essential > minerals and vitamins necessary for calcium assimilation, but the RDA > for calcium is extremely high, so even without drinking dH2O, you need > to be supplementing. I am a dairy hound. Plus, if it matters, I do a good bit of weight-bearing exercise. But I will keep this in mind. Thanks. > > I don't drink a specific brand of water but usually pick spring water > that is purified by RO and microfiltered, minimally. The purest form > of water a human can produce is double-distilled deioninzed water (ddDI > H2O), but the deionization filter systems are extremely expensive. > There are some waters that are naturally higher in calcium (I forget > which brands), but they feel "dry" in the mouth and generally aren't as > palatable as other brands. > See, that's the thing, I really like the taste of distilled. |
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"cybercat" > wrote in message
... > > "-L." > wrote in message > ups.com... >> >> cybercat wrote: >>> >>> I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a myth. >> >> I have a long and convoluted post in my head explaining why it isn't >> but I'm not up to writing it down tonight. Maybe if I get a >> second-wind tomorrow...Basically it has to do with calcium ions in your >> blood, which distilled (aka "hungry water") will bond with, lowering >> the calcium bioavaliability. > > That makes more sense. > > When the amount of calcium in the body >> drops, and none is being taken in via diet, the body will replentish >> calcium ions from bones and other tissues. One way to remedy that is >> to take calcium supplements in conjunction with other essential >> minerals and vitamins necessary for calcium assimilation, but the RDA >> for calcium is extremely high, so even without drinking dH2O, you need >> to be supplementing. > > I am a dairy hound. Plus, if it matters, I do a good bit of weight-bearing > exercise. But I will keep this in mind. Thanks. > > >> >> I don't drink a specific brand of water but usually pick spring water >> that is purified by RO and microfiltered, minimally. The purest form >> of water a human can produce is double-distilled deioninzed water (ddDI >> H2O), but the deionization filter systems are extremely expensive. >> There are some waters that are naturally higher in calcium (I forget >> which brands), but they feel "dry" in the mouth and generally aren't as >> palatable as other brands. >> > > See, that's the thing, I really like the taste of distilled. Which brand of bottled water is distilled? |
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![]() JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > > Which brand of bottled water is distilled? There are numerous brands. Look in the water section of your supermarket. They will be clearly marked as distilled and generally run 10-25 cents higher per gallon, than other purified waters. -L. |
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![]() "-L." > wrote in message oups.com... > > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> >> Which brand of bottled water is distilled? > > There are numerous brands. Look in the water section of your > supermarket. They will be clearly marked as distilled and generally > run 10-25 cents higher per gallon, than other purified waters. > Joe was just dicking with me in the only way he can, with his limited imagination and intellect. FWIW ![]() -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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![]() JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "cybercat" > wrote in message > ... > > > > "-L." > wrote in message > > ups.com... > >> > >> cybercat wrote: > >>> > >>> I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a myth. > >> > >> I have a long and convoluted post in my head explaining why it isn't > >> but I'm not up to writing it down tonight. Maybe if I get a > >> second-wind tomorrow...Basically it has to do with calcium ions in your > >> blood, which distilled (aka "hungry water") will bond with, lowering > >> the calcium bioavaliability. > > > > That makes more sense. > > > > When the amount of calcium in the body > >> drops, and none is being taken in via diet, the body will replentish > >> calcium ions from bones and other tissues. One way to remedy that is > >> to take calcium supplements in conjunction with other essential > >> minerals and vitamins necessary for calcium assimilation, but the RDA > >> for calcium is extremely high, so even without drinking dH2O, you need > >> to be supplementing. > > > > I am a dairy hound. Plus, if it matters, I do a good bit of weight-bearing > > exercise. But I will keep this in mind. Thanks. > > > > > >> > >> I don't drink a specific brand of water but usually pick spring water > >> that is purified by RO and microfiltered, minimally. The purest form > >> of water a human can produce is double-distilled deioninzed water (ddDI > >> H2O), but the deionization filter systems are extremely expensive. > >> There are some waters that are naturally higher in calcium (I forget > >> which brands), but they feel "dry" in the mouth and generally aren't as > >> palatable as other brands. > >> > > > > See, that's the thing, I really like the taste of distilled. > > Which brand of bottled water is distilled? None, leastways none that are typically toted about for hydration... but one can buy distilled water typically in half gallon and full gallon jugs... I suppose also in liter bottles from the pharmacy. Distilled is a costly way to buy drinking water (typically double the cost of regular bottled water), serves no purpose however... soon as it enters the mouth it is no longer distilled, about as senseless as drinking sterile water. Sheldon |
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"cybercat" > wrote in message
.. . > > "-L." > wrote in message > oups.com... >> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> >>> Which brand of bottled water is distilled? >> >> There are numerous brands. Look in the water section of your >> supermarket. They will be clearly marked as distilled and generally >> run 10-25 cents higher per gallon, than other purified waters. >> > > Joe was just dicking with me in the only way he can, with his > limited imagination and intellect. > > FWIW ![]() No, dummy. I thought maybe you had, at some point, been able to read the brand name on the water you buy. I was wrong. |
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cybercat wrote:
> > Yep. Meanwhile, I still enjoy my distilled water, which I have been > drinking for well over 20 years. I keep it in the fridge, use it for my > coffee, always have a cold glass on my night table. I think it tastes > delicious, too. Very clean. What I did not know until this discussion > is that the process kills bacteria and removes chemicals as well as > minerals. > I get my drinking water from a well with very hard water. It also has some nasty bacteria in it that we deal with distillation. > BTW, food scares: I never stopped eating eggs. My cholesterol > levels are always great, and I have had no health problems at all. I don't eat a lot of eggs because they don't agree with me, but my wife eats several eggs per day and has no cholesterol problem. Her father had two poached eggs for breakfast everyday and had no problem. He was mentally alert and physically active until he died peacefully in his sleep at age 95. BTW.... he had melted cheese on the poached eggs, and salt, and had two pieces of toast with lots of butter on it. |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> I realize that they use dextrose and saline solutions, but what about the water that > they use for the solution. Surely they don't use tap water. The water needs to be > sterilized. That means boiling, filtering or distilling. I was under the impression > that, so ensure the purity of the water, IV solutions used distilled water. > Ah, I see now what you're asking. I can't tell you if it is distilled or not, but that makes sense if they started with that than added the saline or dextrose. We never administer distilled water, or plain sterile water intravenously. It could be catastrophic. |
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Goomba38 wrote on 20 Oct 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> Dave Smith wrote: > > > I realize that they use dextrose and saline solutions, but what > > about the water that they use for the solution. Surely they don't > > use tap water. The water needs to be sterilized. That means > > boiling, filtering or distilling. I was under the impression that, > > so ensure the purity of the water, IV solutions used distilled > > water. > > > Ah, I see now what you're asking. I can't tell you if it is distilled > or not, but that makes sense if they started with that than added the > saline or dextrose. We never administer distilled water, or plain > sterile water intravenously. It could be catastrophic. > of course it is distilled and filtered...don't need trace mineral content to affect the solution. Distillation would in effect sterilize it. It is also ph neutral. |
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![]() jay wrote: > > Very few people really know what they are drinking from their taps. And > most people actually have NO idea at all what it is in the little plastic > bottles. Older houses/buildings (before about 1985) have copper water > pipes that are soldered with lead base solder.. I mean just where do we > start with the worry? This is true... and quite amazingly many really old houses in large cities still contain and are using the original lead water pipes... even some of the old city water mains still in use are entirely of lead. The term "plumber" is derived from the Latin plumbum. The element lead is designated by Pb. M-W plumb·er noun Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French plommier, plombier, from Latin plumbarius, from plumbum 1 : a dealer or worker in lead 2 : one who installs, repairs, and maintains piping, fittings, and fixtures involved in the distribution and use of water in a building --- Sheldon |
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![]() Mr Libido Incognito wrote: > Distillation would in effect sterilize it. Not true. Not unless conducted entirely under sterile conditions including packaging that is also hermetically sealed. Most distilled water sold is not sterile. During distilllation the heating process sterilizes but usually the condensation process undoes the sterility. Most consumers want sterile water so that it's mineral free but are not interested in whether the water for their steam iron is sterile too. |
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Goomba38 wrote:
> > Distilled water is merely (almost) pure water. Once water gets into your system > > it dissolves other solutes already there. It is no longer pure. BTW, do they not > > use distilled water in IV solutions? > > > No. Dextrose and saline soultions are the base almost all IV fluids. We > choose which fluid based on where we want "water" to go in the body. If > I give you a solution with low solute, it will move into cells (that > already have a higher solute level) and leave the vascular system. I > give a different choice of fluids if I want the fluid to strictly be > circulating volume when you need fluid there but you don't need it to > move into the cells. I realize that they use dextrose and saline solutions, but what about the water that they use for the solution. Surely they don't use tap water. The water needs to be sterilized. That means boiling, filtering or distilling. I was under the impression that, so ensure the purity of the water, IV solutions used distilled water. |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> I buy aquafina when I am on the road... > > Our drinking water at home comes from the wal-mart vending machine at > $.25 per gallon. Our tap water is ok, but it has fluoride in it and has > an "off" taste. I cannot (yet) afford to install a good filter system at > home. My distiller has no problem keeping up with the demand for drinking water for our small family. We used to have an osmosis filter and chlorinator. I had to chuckle one time when a friend from "the city" commented how good our water was, that it tasted so much better because it was not chlorinated. It was actually quite heavily chlorinated. My water always tastes the same, but every once in a while when I have a glass of water at my mother's condo or from a drinking fountain I detect various tastes, like chlorine or algae. |
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![]() Dave Smith wrote: > Sheldon wrote: > > > Mr Libido Incognito wrote: > > > Distillation would in effect sterilize it. > > > > Not true. Not unless conducted entirely under sterile conditions > > including packaging that is also hermetically sealed. Most distilled > > water sold is not sterile. During distilllation the heating process > > sterilizes but usually the condensation process undoes the sterility. > > Most consumers want sterile water so that it's mineral free but are not > > interested in whether the water for their steam iron is sterile too. > > My home distiller has an activated charcoal filter. The charcoal has to be > changed every few months. Apparently it becomes a breeding ground. That doesn't make sense. Water should be filtered before it's distilled... you have a distiller at home, why pray tell, are you making home hooch? Maybe you mean you have a water filtration system, not a distiller. Activated charcoal filters remove only odors. Btw, all domestic water plumbing contains bacteria at some level, especially domestic hot water... hot water heaters are notorious for being laden with bacteria.... once a year hot water heaters should be shocked with a cup of laundry bleach. Think about how hot water heatrers work... cold water enters near the bottom, hot water rises so it's drawn of near the top. The bottom six inches or so of a typical hot water heater contains tepid water, the perfect breading ground, also is where sludge builds up... any of you ever saw what's inside your hot water heater you'd never bathe. Sheldon |
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![]() "DK" > wrote in message ... > In article >, "cybercat" > > wrote: >> >>"-L." > wrote >>> >>> IIRC the biggest concern is osteoporosis, which you wouldn't know about >>> unless you get a bone scan. >> >>I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a myth. >>Here is what one has to say. (Andrew Weil has an MD degree from Harvard, >>but >>his undergrad degree >>was botany. I want to see what biochemists have to say, too ...) >> >>Is drinking distilled water dangerous? I've read that it's harmful because >>distilled water easily becomes acidic and supposedly robs the body of >>important minerals. True? > > No, not true at all. Assuming anywhere close to balanced nutrition/diet, > there is absolutely no harm in drinking distilled or demineralized water. > It only becomes a factor for high endurance athletes - say, marathon > runners, who must drink electolyte-balanced water or they run a risk of > collapsing. > > Having said that, I can't understand why anyone would ever drink > disgusting tasteless demineralized water... > It's a matter of taste. I *like* it. Bet there's more than one thing you like that I find disgusting. |
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"cybercat" > wrote in message
... > > "DK" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, "cybercat" > >> wrote: >>> >>>"-L." > wrote >>>> >>>> IIRC the biggest concern is osteoporosis, which you wouldn't know about >>>> unless you get a bone scan. >>> >>>I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a myth. >>>Here is what one has to say. (Andrew Weil has an MD degree from Harvard, >>>but >>>his undergrad degree >>>was botany. I want to see what biochemists have to say, too ...) >>> >>>Is drinking distilled water dangerous? I've read that it's harmful >>>because >>>distilled water easily becomes acidic and supposedly robs the body of >>>important minerals. True? >> >> No, not true at all. Assuming anywhere close to balanced nutrition/diet, >> there is absolutely no harm in drinking distilled or demineralized water. >> It only becomes a factor for high endurance athletes - say, marathon >> runners, who must drink electolyte-balanced water or they run a risk of >> collapsing. >> >> Having said that, I can't understand why anyone would ever drink >> disgusting tasteless demineralized water... >> > > It's a matter of taste. I *like* it. Bet there's more than one thing you > like > that I find disgusting. > You can't even remember the name of the distilled water you drink. I'll bet it's not distilled. |
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![]() "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message ... > "cybercat" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "DK" > wrote in message >> ... >>> In article >, "cybercat" >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>"-L." > wrote >>>>> >>>>> IIRC the biggest concern is osteoporosis, which you wouldn't know >>>>> about >>>>> unless you get a bone scan. >>>> >>>>I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a myth. >>>>Here is what one has to say. (Andrew Weil has an MD degree from Harvard, >>>>but >>>>his undergrad degree >>>>was botany. I want to see what biochemists have to say, too ...) >>>> >>>>Is drinking distilled water dangerous? I've read that it's harmful >>>>because >>>>distilled water easily becomes acidic and supposedly robs the body of >>>>important minerals. True? >>> >>> No, not true at all. Assuming anywhere close to balanced nutrition/diet, >>> there is absolutely no harm in drinking distilled or demineralized >>> water. >>> It only becomes a factor for high endurance athletes - say, marathon >>> runners, who must drink electolyte-balanced water or they run a risk of >>> collapsing. >>> >>> Having said that, I can't understand why anyone would ever drink >>> disgusting tasteless demineralized water... >>> >> >> It's a matter of taste. I *like* it. Bet there's more than one thing you >> like >> that I find disgusting. >> > > You can't even remember the name of the distilled water you drink. I'll > bet it's not distilled. You are such a dickhead! And you wear a SOCK on yours, too. lol What's up with that? |
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"cybercat" > wrote in message
... > > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message > ... >> "cybercat" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> "DK" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> In article >, "cybercat" >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>"-L." > wrote >>>>>> >>>>>> IIRC the biggest concern is osteoporosis, which you wouldn't know >>>>>> about >>>>>> unless you get a bone scan. >>>>> >>>>>I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a >>>>>myth. >>>>>Here is what one has to say. (Andrew Weil has an MD degree from >>>>>Harvard, but >>>>>his undergrad degree >>>>>was botany. I want to see what biochemists have to say, too ...) >>>>> >>>>>Is drinking distilled water dangerous? I've read that it's harmful >>>>>because >>>>>distilled water easily becomes acidic and supposedly robs the body of >>>>>important minerals. True? >>>> >>>> No, not true at all. Assuming anywhere close to balanced >>>> nutrition/diet, >>>> there is absolutely no harm in drinking distilled or demineralized >>>> water. >>>> It only becomes a factor for high endurance athletes - say, marathon >>>> runners, who must drink electolyte-balanced water or they run a risk of >>>> collapsing. >>>> >>>> Having said that, I can't understand why anyone would ever drink >>>> disgusting tasteless demineralized water... >>>> >>> >>> It's a matter of taste. I *like* it. Bet there's more than one thing you >>> like >>> that I find disgusting. >>> >> >> You can't even remember the name of the distilled water you drink. I'll >> bet it's not distilled. > You are such a dickhead! And you wear a SOCK on yours, too. lol > > What's up with that? > Answer the question. What brand of distilled water do you drink, biotch. |
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![]() "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message ... > "cybercat" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message >> ... >>> "cybercat" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> "DK" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> In article >, "cybercat" >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>"-L." > wrote >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IIRC the biggest concern is osteoporosis, which you wouldn't know >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> unless you get a bone scan. >>>>>> >>>>>>I did a quick search and a number of physicians say that this is a >>>>>>myth. >>>>>>Here is what one has to say. (Andrew Weil has an MD degree from >>>>>>Harvard, but >>>>>>his undergrad degree >>>>>>was botany. I want to see what biochemists have to say, too ...) >>>>>> >>>>>>Is drinking distilled water dangerous? I've read that it's harmful >>>>>>because >>>>>>distilled water easily becomes acidic and supposedly robs the body of >>>>>>important minerals. True? >>>>> >>>>> No, not true at all. Assuming anywhere close to balanced >>>>> nutrition/diet, >>>>> there is absolutely no harm in drinking distilled or demineralized >>>>> water. >>>>> It only becomes a factor for high endurance athletes - say, marathon >>>>> runners, who must drink electolyte-balanced water or they run a risk >>>>> of >>>>> collapsing. >>>>> >>>>> Having said that, I can't understand why anyone would ever drink >>>>> disgusting tasteless demineralized water... >>>>> >>>> >>>> It's a matter of taste. I *like* it. Bet there's more than one thing >>>> you like >>>> that I find disgusting. >>>> >>> >>> You can't even remember the name of the distilled water you drink. I'll >>> bet it's not distilled. >> You are such a dickhead! And you wear a SOCK on yours, too. lol >> >> What's up with that? >> > > Answer the question. What brand of distilled water do you drink, biotch. Guess. What brand does it make SENSE to drink? Hmmmmm? Since you know the process? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, sockweenie? |
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Sheldon wrote:
> Mr Libido Incognito wrote: > > Distillation would in effect sterilize it. > > Not true. Not unless conducted entirely under sterile conditions > including packaging that is also hermetically sealed. Most distilled > water sold is not sterile. During distilllation the heating process > sterilizes but usually the condensation process undoes the sterility. > Most consumers want sterile water so that it's mineral free but are not > interested in whether the water for their steam iron is sterile too. My home distiller has an activated charcoal filter. The charcoal has to be changed every few months. Apparently it becomes a breeding ground. |
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Dave Smith > wrote: > There is an inline filter, then the water goes into a sealed container with a > heat element and vapour goes through a cooling tube with fins and a fan. It is > distilled. The distilled water then goes into a basket with the activated > charcoal. Beats me why, but it does. The legal definition of vodka in the US is that it has to go through an eight hour filtration through charcoal *after* distillation. The distillation process removes all the solids, but anything that vaporizes will come across along with whatever you are distillation. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California, USA |
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Sheldon wrote:
> > My home distiller has an activated charcoal filter. The charcoal has to be > > changed every few months. Apparently it becomes a breeding ground. > > That doesn't make sense. Water should be filtered before it's > distilled... you have a distiller at home, why pray tell, are you > making home hooch? Maybe you mean you have a water filtration system, > not a distiller. There is an inline filter, then the water goes into a sealed container with a heat element and vapour goes through a cooling tube with fins and a fan. It is distilled. The distilled water then goes into a basket with the activated charcoal. Beats me why, but it does. > . The bottom six inches or so of a typical hot water > heater contains tepid water, the perfect breading ground, also is where > sludge builds up... any of you ever saw what's inside your hot water > heater you'd never bathe. Are your neighbours objecting yet? |
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