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![]() Chatty Cathy wrote: > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > Vote now! Actually the question should read dry garlic as opposed to jarred... hardly anyone has ever tasted fresh garlic... those heads of garlic are dried, just like bagged onions are classified by the USDA as "Dry" onions. Sheldon Nitpic |
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On 20 Oct 2006 06:19:12 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:
> >Chatty Cathy wrote: >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> Vote now! > >Actually the question should read dry garlic as opposed to jarred... >hardly anyone has ever tasted fresh garlic... those heads of garlic are >dried, just like bagged onions are classified by the USDA as "Dry" >onions. > >Sheldon Nitpic picky picky picky! I also would have liked to know how many use granulated garlic. I'd like to see a garlic survey that lists the types available and we just check off all that apply to us. For instance, I use the whole "drie" heads (I also buy the bags of peeled garlic from the green grocer when I plan to use a lot soon) and granulated, but not jarred or garlic juice. Is there something I've missed? -- See return address to reply by email |
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![]() <sf> wrote > picky picky picky! I also would have liked to know how many use > granulated garlic. I was going to mention it, but I thought, poor Cathy, she can't win with this. I do not consider granulated garlic to be jarred garlic, even if I keep some in a jar. To me, jarred is that minced stuff in oil that I have no use for. nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> <sf> wrote > >> picky picky picky! I also would have liked to know how many use >> granulated garlic. > > I was going to mention it, but I thought, poor Cathy, she > can't win with this. I do not consider granulated garlic to be > jarred garlic, even if I keep some in a jar. To me, jarred is that > minced stuff in oil that I have no use for. > > nancy My jarred garlic is packed in water, not oil. I only use it if I don't have bulbs of garlic on hand and a recipe - usually soup - calls for "fresh" (hehheh) minced garlic. I don't recall using it for anything requiring garlic be sauteed in butter. I also have some of Penzey's granulated garlic which I use from time to time. Jill |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:48:14 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote: >To me, jarred is that minced stuff in oil that I have no use for. Me too. -- See return address to reply by email |
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![]() sf wrote: > On 20 Oct 2006 06:19:12 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote: > > > > >Chatty Cathy wrote: > >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > >> > >> Vote now! > > > >Actually the question should read dry garlic as opposed to jarred... > >hardly anyone has ever tasted fresh garlic... those heads of garlic are > >dried, just like bagged onions are classified by the USDA as "Dry" > >onions. > > > >Sheldon Nitpic > > picky picky picky! I also would have liked to know how many use > granulated garlic. I'd like to see a garlic survey that lists the > types available and we just check off all that apply to us. For > instance, I use the whole "drie" heads (I also buy the bags of peeled > garlic from the green grocer when I plan to use a lot soon) and > granulated, but not jarred or garlic juice. Is there something I've > missed? Dehydrated garlic is available in forms other than granulated; powdered, minced. >From Penzeys: Garlic Garlic is probably the most heavily used seasoning in the world. All of the world's great cuisines, from Chinese, to Italian, to French, make abundant use of this pungent flavoring. The world's finest garlic is American, grown and harvested in central California. One pound of dehydrated garlic is made from 9 pounds of fresh garlic bulbs. Granulated garlic powder is the most popular type of garlic, since it is easy to sprinkle on meats, vegetables and bread, and measures easily for recipes. To rehydrate: Use ½ tsp. in 1 tsp. water to equal 2 fresh cloves. It is important to rehydrate garlic for a few minutes before adding it to tart foods like tomatoes, or to sauces that contain vinegar or lemon juice (the acidic nature of these foods will stop the garlic flavor from developing to its full strength). When adding dry, use ¼ tsp. for each garlic clove needed. Sprinkle on poultry, steak, chops or fish, use about ½ tsp. per lb. with salt and pepper to taste. It's important to rehydrate all herbs before using... rehydrated herbs are actually better than "fresh", unless you can verify they were harvested like an hour ago... stupidmarket "fresh" herbs are old. Bulb garlic from the stupidmarket is actually old, probably 2-3 months out of the ground... tastes nothing like fresh picked... so yoose imbeciles, and yoose know who you are, who pooh-pooh dehy garlic don't have a clue. Sheldon |
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On 2006-10-20, Sheldon > wrote:
> hardly anyone has ever tasted fresh garlic... those heads of garlic are > dried, just like bagged onions are classified by the USDA as "Dry" > onions. Yes, but isn't this the nature of these plants? With proper handling and storage members of the onion family stay juicy and usable long after harvest. Being so close to Gilroy CA, I often see fresh garlic in farmer's markets, the stalk still green from the field. Other than being almost overwhelmingly aromatic, there's not much difference over relatively fresh dried garlic. I will admit dry garlic can become too old. I've seen it in some stores, the dry bulbs withered and the garlic shrunken and sucked in from the husk. Not good. OTOH, I've *NEVER* found a jar of garlic in any form worth a damn. I'm extremely fortunate in that the Mex veg stand around the corner buys bulk fresh peeled cloves and bags them up, about 2 bulbs worth for $1. nb |
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notbob wrote:
I will admit dry garlic can become too > old. I've seen it in some stores, the dry bulbs withered and the > garlic shrunken and sucked in from the husk. Not good. OTOH, I've > *NEVER* found a jar of garlic in any form worth a damn. I recently joined Sam's Club and saw restaurant sized jugs of peeled whole garlic cloves for sale. How do they peel them on that scale?? I wondered how fresh or flavorful they remain and for how long? What can I say... I like to bang the flat blade of my knife on a clove and peel each one as I use it. It only takes a second and I feel virtuous, lol. Goomba |
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On 2006-10-20, Goomba38 > wrote:
> I recently joined Sam's Club and saw restaurant sized jugs of peeled > whole garlic cloves for sale. How do they peel them on that scale?? I > wondered how fresh or flavorful they remain and for how long? Oh yeah! ...I've been buying the little hand bagged peeled garlic from the Mex veg stand for so long, I forgot stores do offer this same option sold in square plastic jugs. I'd buy the smaller ones so as not to have the really big ones go bad before I could use them. In either case, these are whole garlic cloves with no more processing than removal of the dry skin. This product is nothing like the horrible pre-chopped or minced garlic that's further processed and has crap added for preservation. As for longevity, I'd say it's pretty good if you can get it fresh enough. I keep the peeled bulbs in the fridge and have had bulbs in a sealed bag keep for up to a month with no problems. The trick is making sure it's fresh when you buy it. You can tell old peeled garlic cloves by the yellowish brown spots that begin to appear. These spots are actually the garlic turning translucent and beginning to sour. If you dare open the container, you can smell the sourness. I still keep a dry bulb of garlic around in case of emergencies. ![]() nb > What can I say... I like to bang the flat blade of my knife on a clove > and peel each one as I use it. It only takes a second and I feel > virtuous, lol. > Goomba |
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![]() notbob wrote: > I still keep a dry bulb of garlic around in case of emergencies. ![]() In history garlic has been used both as an aphrodisiac and as a contraceptive ![]() -- Best Greg |
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![]() "Goomba38" > wrote > I recently joined Sam's Club and saw restaurant sized jugs of peeled whole > garlic cloves for sale. How do they peel them on that scale?? I wondered > how fresh or flavorful they remain and for how long? My thoughts exactly. Never bought that for just those reasons. > What can I say... I like to bang the flat blade of my knife on a clove and > peel each one as I use it. It only takes a second and I feel virtuous, > lol. Heh. I don't feel virtuous (wouldn't that be a joke! laugh), but I like to peel my own garlic. I never got why it was such a big deal. Just me. nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote on 20 Oct 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> > "Goomba38" > wrote > > > I recently joined Sam's Club and saw restaurant sized jugs of peeled > > whole garlic cloves for sale. How do they peel them on that scale?? > > I wondered how fresh or flavorful they remain and for how long? > > My thoughts exactly. Never bought that for just those reasons. > > > What can I say... I like to bang the flat blade of my knife on a > > clove and peel each one as I use it. It only takes a second and I > > feel virtuous, lol. > > Heh. I don't feel virtuous (wouldn't that be a joke! laugh), but I > like to peel my own garlic. I never got why it was such a big deal. > Just me. > > nancy > > > I've even got one of those garlic peeling tubes...never use it...Seems I like the skins sticking to my fingers when I bash a clove too hard and release the sugary juices. |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:36:36 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote: >Heh. I don't feel virtuous (wouldn't that be a joke! laugh), but I >like to peel my own garlic. I never got why it was such a big deal. >Just me. My kids actually introduced me to the peeled variety in a bag. They cook very well, but neither one likes preparing garlic. -- See return address to reply by email |
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![]() Sheldon wrote: > Chatty Cathy wrote: > > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > > > Vote now! > > Actually the question should read dry garlic as opposed to jarred... > hardly anyone has ever tasted fresh garlic... those heads of garlic are > dried, just like bagged onions are classified by the USDA as "Dry" > onions. > > Sheldon Nitpic Yeah, these surveys are lame. What's up next, "dried onions versus fresh onions" or "canned versus jarred spaghetti sauce"? Oh wait, here comes "canned dinty moore versus your dumbass interpretation of fresh ingredients?" "over rice or mashed potatoes"? LOL |
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![]() "projectile vomit chick" > wrote > > Yeah, these surveys are lame. What's up next, "dried onions versus > fresh onions" or "canned versus jarred spaghetti sauce"? > Do you cook, asswipe? |
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On 20 Oct 2006 21:39:47 -0700, "projectile vomit chick"
> wrote: >Yeah, these surveys are lame. What's up next, "dried onions versus >fresh onions" or "canned versus jarred spaghetti sauce"? > >Oh wait, here comes "canned dinty moore versus your dumbass >interpretation of fresh ingredients?" > >"over rice or mashed potatoes"? Aw, c'mon! They're kinda fun. It's interesting to see how many people admit to using shortcuts in anonymity as opposed to how many will admit to it in public. Okay, I've got one. When you have the flu, which is worse? Projectile Vomit Projectile Diarrhea I'll bet you could get behind that one! LOL! |
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Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > Okay, I've got one. > > When you have the flu, which is worse? > Projectile Vomit > Projectile Diarrhea > > I'll bet you could get behind that one! LOL! Behind that one? Good pun Dams'. <g> The biggest problem tho' is that if you are really sick, those two tend to come together. :-P -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:58:39 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote: >In article >, > Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > >> Okay, I've got one. >> >> When you have the flu, which is worse? >> Projectile Vomit >> Projectile Diarrhea >> >> I'll bet you could get behind that one! LOL! > >Behind that one? Good pun Dams'. <g> I try. ![]() >The biggest problem tho' is that if you are really sick, those two tend >to come together. :-P Been there, done that, had to throw the t-shirt away. |
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Sheldon wrote:
> Chatty Cathy wrote: >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> Vote now! > > Actually the question should read dry garlic as opposed to jarred... > hardly anyone has ever tasted fresh garlic... those heads of garlic are > dried, just like bagged onions are classified by the USDA as "Dry" > onions. > > Sheldon Nitpic Dear Sheldon Nitwit: As usual, you're wrong. The USDA classification of "dry" onions is to distinguish them from green and seed onions and the other allium crops like shallots and garlic. Garlic is pulled from the ground, tops trimmed and shipped as is. Your almost assertion that they're dried as in dehydrated is wrong. The skins become papery, but the cloves stay hydrated. That;'s why if you run a clove through a garlic press, you can see juice. Read a book that doesn't have crayons with it. Pastorio |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:14:26 -0400, "Bob (this one)" >
wrote: >Dear Sheldon Nitwit: > >As usual, you're wrong. The USDA classification of "dry" >onions is to distinguish them from green and seed onions and >the other allium crops like shallots and garlic. > >Garlic is pulled from the ground, tops trimmed and shipped >as is. Your almost assertion that they're dried as in >dehydrated is wrong. The skins become papery, but the cloves >stay hydrated. That;'s why if you run a clove through a >garlic press, you can see juice. > >Read a book that doesn't have crayons with it. I've missed you. ![]() |
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Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:14:26 -0400, "Bob (this one)" > > wrote: > > >Dear Sheldon Nitwit: > > > >As usual, you're wrong. The USDA classification of "dry" > >onions is to distinguish them from green and seed onions and > >the other allium crops like shallots and garlic. > > > >Garlic is pulled from the ground, tops trimmed and shipped > >as is. Your almost assertion that they're dried as in > >dehydrated is wrong. The skins become papery, but the cloves > >stay hydrated. That;'s why if you run a clove through a > >garlic press, you can see juice. > > > >Read a book that doesn't have crayons with it. > > I've missed you. ![]() Ditto!!!!! ;-D -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >, > Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > >> I've missed you. ![]() > > Ditto!!!!! ;-D Dearly beloved we are gathered... Oh, wait... Been busy with cool stuff in real life. Teaching cooking classes (fancy-assed menus posted yesterday), writing stuff for astonishing bucks for big name magazines, two radio gigs, finished the novel that started with the note about working in a drugstore and a laundromat that I posted like a year and a half ago (being copy edited as we speak), doing some flying (most recently with The Amazing Kid who got queasy for her first time in a small plane), editing a newsletter for a professional organization I belong to, doing some freebie committee work, organizing the food concessions for a huge outdoor/hunting/fishing show in Virginia in February, being husband and daddy. <pant, pant> Good to be retired and have all this free time to just sit on the front porch in my rocking chair... No, seriously... Pastorio |
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![]() "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message ... > Sheldon wrote: >> Chatty Cathy wrote: >>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >>> >>> Vote now! >> >> Actually the question should read dry garlic as opposed to jarred... >> hardly anyone has ever tasted fresh garlic... those heads of garlic are >> dried, just like bagged onions are classified by the USDA as "Dry" >> onions. >> >> Sheldon Nitpic > > Dear Sheldon Nitwit: > > As usual, you're wrong. The USDA classification of "dry" onions is to > distinguish them from green and seed onions and the other allium crops > like shallots and garlic. > > Garlic is pulled from the ground, tops trimmed and shipped as is. Your > almost assertion that they're dried as in dehydrated is wrong. The skins > become papery, but the cloves stay hydrated. That;'s why if you run a > clove through a garlic press, you can see juice. > > Read a book that doesn't have crayons with it. > > Pastorio I have nitwit blocked but I love to see a good come back! ![]() -- My Word in FERGUS/HARLINGEN http://www.mompeagram.homestead.com/index.html |
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Chatty Cathy said...
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > Vote now! THAT'S IT?? Garlic?? Isn't garlic like, umh, kinda/sorta like breathing??? |
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![]() "Andy" <q> wrote in message ... > Chatty Cathy said... > >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> Vote now! > > > THAT'S IT?? Garlic?? > > Isn't garlic like, umh, kinda/sorta like breathing??? > Hahaha! It is around here! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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> Chatty Cathy said... > >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> Vote now! > > > THAT'S IT?? Garlic?? > > Isn't garlic like, umh, kinda/sorta like breathing??? > Of course it is!! I often feel sorry for 'other people' when I am out in public ![]() -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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> Andy wrote: >> Chatty Cathy said... >> >>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >>> >>> Vote now! >> >> >> THAT'S IT?? Garlic?? >> >> Isn't garlic like, umh, kinda/sorta like breathing??? >> > Of course it is!! I often feel sorry for 'other people' when I am out in > public ![]() Heh heh heh!!! Andy |
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Chatty Cathy > wrote: > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > Vote now! > > -- > Cheers > Chatty Cathy Fun. :-) I'm glad that you keep doing these... -- Peace, Om Remove extra . to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >, > Chatty Cathy > wrote: > >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> Vote now! >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Chatty Cathy > > Fun. :-) > > I'm glad that you keep doing these... ![]() But some more 'ideas' would be welcome <hint, hint>. My 'list' is almost depleted ![]() -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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Chatty Cathy > wrote: > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > In article >, > > Chatty Cathy > wrote: > > > >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > >> > >> Vote now! > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers > >> Chatty Cathy > > > > Fun. :-) > > > > I'm glad that you keep doing these... > > ![]() > > But some more 'ideas' would be welcome <hint, hint>. My 'list' is almost > depleted ![]() Let me catch up on sleep... (on vacation for 2 weeks starting tomorrow morning). I'd be delighted to send a few suggestions by private mail. ;-) Cheers! -- Peace, Om Remove extra . to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Let me catch up on sleep... (on vacation for 2 weeks starting tomorrow > morning). > > I'd be delighted to send a few suggestions by private mail. ;-) Thanks ![]() -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:10:33 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> wrote: >But some more 'ideas' would be welcome <hint, hint>. My 'list' is almost >depleted ![]() I'd spread them out a little, myself. |
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:10:33 +0200, Chatty Cathy > > wrote: > >> But some more 'ideas' would be welcome <hint, hint>. My 'list' is almost >> depleted ![]() > > I'd spread them out a little, myself. I tried that, but someone (who will remain nameless) Ping-ed me earlier this week and gave me grief about WANTING to vote LOL. He got his wish (I hope). Anyway, tell ya what - I'll do a survey tomorrow (or the next day) along the lines of: How often do *you* think should this topic be changed? This is a democracy, after all... -- Cheers Chatty Cathy - who feels like eating escargone... |
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Chatty Cathy said...
> Damsel in dis Dress wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:10:33 +0200, Chatty Cathy >> > wrote: >> >>> But some more 'ideas' would be welcome <hint, hint>. My 'list' is >>> almost depleted ![]() >> >> I'd spread them out a little, myself. > > I tried that, but someone (who will remain nameless) Ping-ed me > earlier this week and gave me grief about WANTING to vote LOL. He got > his wish (I hope). THE NERVE OF SOME FOLK!!! ![]() |
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![]() Damsel in dis Dress wrote: > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:10:33 +0200, Chatty Cathy > > wrote: > > >But some more 'ideas' would be welcome <hint, hint>. My 'list' is almost > >depleted ![]() > > I'd spread them out a little, myself. I kinda agree... ...fred |
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On 20 Oct 2006 16:06:11 -0700, "kuvasz guy" > wrote:
> >Damsel in dis Dress wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:10:33 +0200, Chatty Cathy >> > wrote: >> >> >But some more 'ideas' would be welcome <hint, hint>. My 'list' is almost >> >depleted ![]() >> >> I'd spread them out a little, myself. > >I kinda agree... > >..fred I agree also. How about just one a week? Or even every 2 weeks, unless of course tons of ideas just start pouring in...... Christine |
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> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > Vote now! > I use garlic in all forms, fresh, jarred/minced and powdered, it just depends on what it's going in and the desired effect. As for garlic ice cream; while the idea may not sound terribly palatable it's really better than you'd expect. We used to have a Garlic Festival in Arlington, WA where garlic ice cream was always served. It's really rather good. JD |
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JD wrote:
> As for garlic ice > cream; while the idea may not sound terribly palatable it's really > better than you'd expect. We used to have a Garlic Festival in > Arlington, WA where garlic ice cream was always served. It's really > rather good. I have heard about it and always wanted to try it, but never have. Now I must! ![]() -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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