This is a really stupid question and I must be having a senior moment,
be
because I've had pepper grinders for years and years-but how do you
open them and
open them to refill them.

My humble thanks-

Linda

Linda wrote:
> This is a really stupid question and I must be having a senior moment,
> be
> because I've had pepper grinders for years and years-but how do you
> open them and
> open them to refill them.

Would help to know which brand, but the vast majority have a small
screw or nut to loosen for removing the top... some others have a
small trap door... I truly can't imagine anyone over the age of four
(4) can't figure out how to access a pepper mill for refilling.

Sheldon

Linda said...

> This is a really stupid question and I must be having a senior moment,
> be
> because I've had pepper grinders for years and years-but how do you
> open them and
> open them to refill them.
>
> My humble thanks-
>
> Linda


Linda,

Usually there's a knob on top that you can unwind and set aside then pull
the next hand twist/grinder part off of, to expose the peppercorn
container to pour pepper corns in. The grinding spindle (you detached the
top knob from) in the center will be obvious. After the tube is refilled,
then realign/replace the top cap so the center spindle pops out of the
top and rescrew the knob, to the right tension for the grind you prefer.

Good luck and all the best,

Andy

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Andy wrote:
>> Linda said...
>>
>> > This is a really stupid question and I must be having a senior moment,
>> > be
>> > because I've had pepper grinders for years and years-but how do you
>> > open them and
>> > open them to refill them.
>> >
>> > My humble thanks-
>> >
>> > Linda
>>
>>
>> Linda,
>>
>> Usually there's a knob on top that you can unwind and set aside then pull
>> the next hand twist/grinder part off of, to expose the peppercorn
>> container to pour pepper corns in. The grinding spindle (you detached the
>> top knob from) in the center will be obvious. After the tube is refilled,
>> then realign/replace the top cap so the center spindle pops out of the
>> top and rescrew the knob, to the right tension for the grind you prefer.
>>
>> Good luck and all the best,
>>
>> Andy
>
> What's the matter with you, Andy... hitting on this virginal poster...
> "Good luck and *all the best*"... cloyingly sickening. What, a love
> letter... you frorgot "My Dearest Linda," Sheesh, what disingenuous
> claptrap. Andy, you've contracted the dreaded Disingenuous Duh'Wayne
> Disease.
>

All together now!

**** OFFFFFF, SHELDON!

Andy wrote:
> Linda said...
>
> > This is a really stupid question and I must be having a senior moment,
> > be
> > because I've had pepper grinders for years and years-but how do you
> > open them and
> > open them to refill them.
> >
> > My humble thanks-
> >
> > Linda
>
>
> Linda,
>
> Usually there's a knob on top that you can unwind and set aside then pull
> the next hand twist/grinder part off of, to expose the peppercorn
> container to pour pepper corns in. The grinding spindle (you detached the
> top knob from) in the center will be obvious. After the tube is refilled,
> then realign/replace the top cap so the center spindle pops out of the
> top and rescrew the knob, to the right tension for the grind you prefer.
>
> Good luck and all the best,
>
> Andy

What's the matter with you, Andy... hitting on this virginal poster...
"Good luck and *all the best*"... cloyingly sickening. What, a love
letter... you frorgot "My Dearest Linda," Sheesh, what disingenuous
claptrap. Andy, you've contracted the dreaded Disingenuous Duh'Wayne
Disease.

Sheldon

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> roger rabbits said...
>
>> On 29 Oct 2006 02:15:23 +0200, cybercat wrote:
>>
>> If you be needen to do that kinda humpin thing. you needs to call your
>> dingle BBBarry!!!
>>
>>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> Linda said...
>>>>>
>>>>> > This is a really stupid question and I must be having a senior
>>>>> > moment, be
>>>>> > because I've had pepper grinders for years and years-but how do
>>>>> > you
>>>>> > open them and
>>>>> > open them to refill them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My humble thanks-
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Linda
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Linda,
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually there's a knob on top that you can unwind and set aside
>>>>> then pull the next hand twist/grinder part off of, to expose the
>>>>> peppercorn container to pour pepper corns in. The grinding spindle
>>>>> (you detached the top knob from) in the center will be obvious.
>>>>> After the tube is refilled, then realign/replace the top cap so the
>>>>> center spindle pops out of the top and rescrew the knob, to the
>>>>> right tension for the grind you prefer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck and all the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> What's the matter with you, Andy... hitting on this virginal
>>>> poster... "Good luck and *all the best*"... cloyingly sickening.
>>>> What, a love letter... you frorgot "My Dearest Linda," Sheesh,
>>>> what disingenuous claptrap. Andy, you've contracted the dreaded
>>>> Disingenuous Duh'Wayne Disease.
>>>>
>>>
>>> All together now!
>>>
>>> **** OFFFFFF, SHELDON!
>
>
> Who's Sheldon???
>

hahaha!

Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a rabbit
head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so annoying to fill,
I am getting the kind you described--with the top that screws off. The one I
have now essentially has to be filled one peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe
three peppercorns at a time.

roger rabbits said...

> On 29 Oct 2006 02:15:23 +0200, cybercat wrote:
>
> If you be needen to do that kinda humpin thing. you needs to call your
> dingle BBBarry!!!
>
>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> Linda said...
>>>>
>>>> > This is a really stupid question and I must be having a senior
>>>> > moment, be
>>>> > because I've had pepper grinders for years and years-but how do
>>>> > you
>>>> > open them and
>>>> > open them to refill them.
>>>> >
>>>> > My humble thanks-
>>>> >
>>>> > Linda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linda,
>>>>
>>>> Usually there's a knob on top that you can unwind and set aside
>>>> then pull the next hand twist/grinder part off of, to expose the
>>>> peppercorn container to pour pepper corns in. The grinding spindle
>>>> (you detached the top knob from) in the center will be obvious.
>>>> After the tube is refilled, then realign/replace the top cap so the
>>>> center spindle pops out of the top and rescrew the knob, to the
>>>> right tension for the grind you prefer.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck and all the best,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> What's the matter with you, Andy... hitting on this virginal
>>> poster... "Good luck and *all the best*"... cloyingly sickening.
>>> What, a love letter... you frorgot "My Dearest Linda," Sheesh,
>>> what disingenuous claptrap. Andy, you've contracted the dreaded
>>> Disingenuous Duh'Wayne Disease.
>>>
>>
>> All together now!
>>
>> **** OFFFFFF, SHELDON!


Who's Sheldon???

cybercat wrote:
> Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a rabbit
> head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so annoying to fill,
> I am getting the kind you described--with the top that screws off. The one I
> have now essentially has to be filled one peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe
> three peppercorns at a time.

The kind that screws together is a pain in the ass too because
eventually the gears stop fitting together properly and it doesn't
grind right. I paid ten bucks for the last one and it lasted about a
year and a half.
-L.

On 28 Oct 2006 16:24:29 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:

> I truly can't imagine anyone over the age of four
>(4) can't figure out how to access a pepper mill for refilling.

If she's lost strength in her hands, that screw thingy at the top will
be hard to budge and will look more like a decorative item to her.

I have one word of advice: pliers.

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On 29 Oct 2006 03:37:51 +0200, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a rabbit
>head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so annoying to fill,
>I am getting the kind you described--with the top that screws off. The one I
>have now essentially has to be filled one peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe
>three peppercorns at a time.
>

I have both kinds... you need a funnel to fill both (unless you like
picking up peppercorns from all over the place).

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On 28 Oct 2006 23:17:44 -0700, "-L." > wrote:

>
>cybercat wrote:
>> Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a rabbit
>> head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so annoying to fill,
>> I am getting the kind you described--with the top that screws off. The one I
>> have now essentially has to be filled one peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe
>> three peppercorns at a time.
>
>The kind that screws together is a pain in the ass too because
>eventually the gears stop fitting together properly and it doesn't
>grind right. I paid ten bucks for the last one and it lasted about a
>year and a half.
>-L.

I paid $20 for mine and it was on sale (30 years ago). I bought one
for salt and the gears corroded long ago, but the pepper grinder is
still going.

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In article >,
"cybercat" > wrote:

> hahaha!
>
> Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a rabbit
> head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so annoying to fill,
> I am getting the kind you described--with the top that screws off. The one I
> have now essentially has to be filled one peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe
> three peppercorns at a time.

Try cupping your hand around the top, pouring a few in and just shaking
it down with the port open. Much faster! I have one like that and that
method works for me. :-) My hand sorta kinda acts like a funnel.
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cybercat said...

> Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a
> rabbit head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so
> annoying to fill, I am getting the kind you described--with the top
> that screws off. The one I have now essentially has to be filled one
> peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe three peppercorns at a time.


A buddy of mine gave me a battery operated pepper grinder for a birthday
present.

It's cut WAY DOWN on the wrist injuries!

Andy

Andy wrote:
> cybercat said...
>
> > Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a
> > rabbit head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so
> > annoying to fill, I am getting the kind you described--with the top
> > that screws off. The one I have now essentially has to be filled one
> > peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe three peppercorns at a time.
>
>
> A buddy of mine gave me a battery operated pepper grinder for a birthday
> present.
>
> It's cut WAY DOWN on the wrist injuries!
>
> Andy
You just have to serve up those softballs for shelly, dontcha...

...fred

kuvasz guy said...

>
> Andy wrote:
>> cybercat said...
>>
>> > Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a
>> > rabbit head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so
>> > annoying to fill, I am getting the kind you described--with the top
>> > that screws off. The one I have now essentially has to be filled one
>> > peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe three peppercorns at a time.
>>
>>
>> A buddy of mine gave me a battery operated pepper grinder for a
birthday
>> present.
>>
>> It's cut WAY DOWN on the wrist injuries!
>>
>> Andy
> You just have to serve up those softballs for shelly, dontcha...
>
> ..fred


...fred,

"It's" killfiled. Ask me if I care.

Andy

-L. wrote:
> cybercat wrote:
> > Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a rabbit
> > head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so annoying to fill,
> > I am getting the kind you described--with the top that screws off. The one I
> > have now essentially has to be filled one peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe
> > three peppercorns at a time.
>
> The kind that screws together is a pain in the ass too because
> eventually the gears stop fitting together properly and it doesn't
> grind right. I paid ten bucks for the last one and it lasted about a
> year and a half.
> -L.

I don't think any last for more than a year or two. I had one of those
rabbit-looking
things, one side salt; the other, pepper. But the off-side never fully
shut-down, so
you were always delivering some random mix. Not good for my precise
cooking. LOL.

Had many automatic pepper grinders, one with a small light. A gift!
But if one or more batteries
slipped out of place you couldn't remove the innerds to replace or
reposition the batteries. Yek!

Could get one of those Zarathrustra(it's German) things but I need a
one-hander when
I'm cooking. I just buy cheap and replace.

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> cybercat said...
>
>> Meanwhile .... I have the kind of pepper grinder that looks like a
>> rabbit head. It has a little sliding "door" in the side and is so
>> annoying to fill, I am getting the kind you described--with the top
>> that screws off. The one I have now essentially has to be filled one
>> peppercorn at a time. Okay, maybe three peppercorns at a time.
>
>
> A buddy of mine gave me a battery operated pepper grinder for a birthday
> present.
>
> It's cut WAY DOWN on the wrist injuries!
>
>
hahaha!

I thought the rabbit head one would be good because, instead of turning
the thing you squeeze the "ears" together, but it just does not grind very
well, doesn't hold much, and filling it ... grrrr. I need a new one. I want
a
big stainless steel one with three sizes of grind like I got for a friend. I
really like the housewares section at Marshalls for stuff like that. Ever
looked there? You can find really fine things for cheap.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote:
>
> Try cupping your hand around the top, pouring a few in and just shaking
> it down with the port open. Much faster! I have one like that and that
> method works for me. :-) My hand sorta kinda acts like a funnel.
> --

I, too, have developed this method! However, I still find it too slow and
awkward. I am ditching the bunny ears asap. To each her own! (I dislike
plastic, so I think when I saw the nice tall stainless one with three
settings
that I bought for my friend, the faults of the bunnyear grinder became
magnified. )

<sf> wrote :
>>
>
> I have both kinds... you need a funnel to fill both (unless you like
> picking up peppercorns from all over the place).
>

A funnel! *looking at you suspiciously*

You are one of those practical types, aren't you?

Still, when I filled the big stainless steel one I bought as a gift,
it was easier to fill from the little freshmarket baggies I buy my
pepper in. I want one that holds more pepper so I don't have
to fill it so often.

"-L." > wrote :
>
> The kind that screws together is a pain in the ass too because
> eventually the gears stop fitting together properly and it doesn't
> grind right. I paid ten bucks for the last one and it lasted about a
> year and a half.

We need a better pepper grinder design!

In article >, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> I, too, have developed this method! However, I still find it too slow and
> awkward.

While I agree, the little wooden one I use has sentimental value...
It's at least 30+ years old and still works fine.

> I am ditching the bunny ears asap. To each her own! (I dislike
> plastic, so I think when I saw the nice tall stainless one with three
> settings
> that I bought for my friend, the faults of the bunnyear grinder became
> magnified. )

I can see why. <G>
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<Kanichi> wrote in message ...
> On 29 Oct 2006 17:03:19 +0200, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"-L." > wrote :
>>>
>>> The kind that screws together is a pain in the ass too because
>>> eventually the gears stop fitting together properly and it doesn't
>>> grind right. I paid ten bucks for the last one and it lasted about a
>>> year and a half.
>>
>>We need a better pepper grinder design!
>>
> I like pepper.

Is this dev null in yet another INGENIOUS DISGUISE?

Who was that masked man!

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>> I, too, have developed this method! However, I still find it too slow and
>> awkward.
>
> While I agree, the little wooden one I use has sentimental value...
> It's at least 30+ years old and still works fine.
>

I had no idea they had bunnyear pepper mills 30 years ago! And in
WOOD! Very cool. If I could find a big one in wood I might want it.

"Muddle" > wrote
> Get a William Bounds pepper mill, they have a lifetime warranty.
> http://www.wmboundsltd.com/
> I've had mine about ten years now and it works just fine. If you peruse
> their pepper mills, the one I have is called the "Love Mill" because the
> offset handle has a heart shaped cutout. In my opinion you can grind a
> lot
> of pepper faster using one continuous circular motion with the offset
> handle. The large round knob on the top is easy to unscrew to remove the
> handle and fill the mill. I buy bulk 19.5 oz containers of peppercorns at
> Sam's.
>
>

Cool! I have never seen this kind, I like it.

Linda wrote:
>
> This is a really stupid question and I must be having a senior moment,
> be
> because I've had pepper grinders for years and years-but how do you
> open them and
> open them to refill them.

It depends on the type and design. I have a wooden one that has a
salt shaker on top and a pepper grinder on the bottom. There are
pegs sticking out the sides of each half, one of which comes out
for filling. I have also have a set of clear acrylic salt and
pepper grinders with a square shaft that goes up from the grinder
to the removable top and there is a nut that screws into the top.
Unscrew the top, remove that twisting knob and pour the salt or
pepper corns into the reservoir.

<Kanichi> wrote in message ...
> On 29 Oct 2006 17:03:19 +0200, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"-L." > wrote :
> >>
> >> The kind that screws together is a pain in the ass too because
> >> eventually the gears stop fitting together properly and it doesn't
> >> grind right. I paid ten bucks for the last one and it lasted about a
> >> year and a half.
> >
> >We need a better pepper grinder design!
> >
> I like pepper.

Get a William Bounds pepper mill, they have a lifetime warranty.
http://www.wmboundsltd.com/
I've had mine about ten years now and it works just fine. If you peruse
their pepper mills, the one I have is called the "Love Mill" because the
offset handle has a heart shaped cutout. In my opinion you can grind a lot
of pepper faster using one continuous circular motion with the offset
handle. The large round knob on the top is easy to unscrew to remove the
handle and fill the mill. I buy bulk 19.5 oz containers of peppercorns at
Sam's.

On 2006-10-29, Dave Smith > wrote:

> It depends on the type and design.

I've recently discovered the ultimate pepper grinder, namely my 10lb
granite mortar & pestle. My ultra cool turkish pepper grinder was
apart for a polishing and I was without pepper. Bingo! Thai mortar.
I can load it instantly with either white or black pepper ...or
both... and get coarse to talcum powder in seconds. I think it'll be
awhile before the grinder get polished.

http://importfood.com/thaicookware.html

nb

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Muddle" > wrote
> > Get a William Bounds pepper mill, they have a lifetime warranty.
> > http://www.wmboundsltd.com/
> > I've had mine about ten years now and it works just fine. If you peruse
> > their pepper mills, the one I have is called the "Love Mill" because the
> > offset handle has a heart shaped cutout. In my opinion you can grind a
> > lot
> > of pepper faster using one continuous circular motion with the offset
> > handle. The large round knob on the top is easy to unscrew to remove
the
> > handle and fill the mill. I buy bulk 19.5 oz containers of peppercorns
at
> > Sam's.
> >
> >
>
> Cool! I have never seen this kind, I like it.
>
>
If you don't like filling them all the time with fresh pepper corns, get one
of the larger models with an offset handle. The various "Love Mills" are
rather small except for the one labeled "WW". After tightening the knob and
grinding one turn you need to tighten the knob one more time. They also
have easy adjustable settings for course, medium and fine on the top of the
mill, not the bottom. Other mills I've used force you to break out the
pliers to adjust the grind in a recessed hole in the bottom of the mill. If
you don't want to purchase them on the web Dillards sells them. That's
where I got mine many years ago.
I have no affiliation with William Bounds, I just love my "Love Mill".

"Muddle" > wrote

> I have no affiliation with William Bounds, I just love my "Love Mill".
>

It's just what I need! I first got the rabbit ears kind because the
ones where you turn the top got uncomfortable and just didn't
seem to work very well. (They may have been old with stripped
gears as Lyn mentioned.)

The "Love Mill" looks great because, from years of beating my
hands to death as a bartender in a high-volume bar, I hate to
admit it but my fingers are getting "twingey." (I am in my
forties, I think this is young for osteoarthritis, but I do think
that is what it is. It is a burning and a little bit of an ache, is that
what arthritis feels like?) So, the crank action will be perfect!
Thanks!

In article >, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >, "cybercat" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I, too, have developed this method! However, I still find it too slow and
> >> awkward.
> >
> > While I agree, the little wooden one I use has sentimental value...
> > It's at least 30+ years old and still works fine.
> >
>
> I had no idea they had bunnyear pepper mills 30 years ago! And in
> WOOD! Very cool. If I could find a big one in wood I might want it.

No no, not a bunny ear! It's just a small crank pepper grinder with a
slide door in the top for filling. :-)
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"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Muddle" > wrote
>
> > I have no affiliation with William Bounds, I just love my "Love Mill".
> >
>
> It's just what I need! I first got the rabbit ears kind because the
> ones where you turn the top got uncomfortable and just didn't
> seem to work very well. (They may have been old with stripped
> gears as Lyn mentioned.)
>
> The "Love Mill" looks great because, from years of beating my
> hands to death as a bartender in a high-volume bar, I hate to
> admit it but my fingers are getting "twingey." (I am in my
> forties, I think this is young for osteoarthritis, but I do think
> that is what it is. It is a burning and a little bit of an ache, is that
> what arthritis feels like?) So, the crank action will be perfect!
> Thanks!
>
>
I don't think osteoarthritis or degenerative bone disease has much to do
with age or diet. Repetitive motion outside the normal range of motion or
in other words constant abuse of joints and the tendons which hold those
joints in place causes it. Every pee wee football participant who performed
daily neck bridges at twelve years of age has at thirty years of age bone
spurs and osteoarthritis in their neck. It's why our mothers told us not to
crack our knuckles. I'm in my late forties and was diagnosed with
degenerative bone disease over twenty years ago in my neck. My doctors
don't suggest any exercise other than a brisk walk as the next accident
could be my last. Arthritis and Osteoarthritis are two different beasts.
Given what you've said you could have it and an xray of your hands would
show bone loss and bone spurs. The term osteo means bone.

"Muddle" > wrote
>>
> I don't think osteoarthritis or degenerative bone disease has much to do
> with age or diet. Repetitive motion outside the normal range of motion or
> in other words constant abuse of joints and the tendons which hold those
> joints in place causes it. Every pee wee football participant who
> performed
> daily neck bridges at twelve years of age has at thirty years of age bone
> spurs and osteoarthritis in their neck. It's why our mothers told us not
> to
> crack our knuckles. I'm in my late forties and was diagnosed with
> degenerative bone disease over twenty years ago in my neck. My doctors
> don't suggest any exercise other than a brisk walk as the next accident
> could be my last. Arthritis and Osteoarthritis are two different beasts.
> Given what you've said you could have it and an xray of your hands would
> show bone loss and bone spurs. The term osteo means bone.
>

I was thinking of osteoarthritis vs Rheumatoid Arthritis--or maybe I don't
have
it right? I have always had a dread of the latter, as my father's mother was
diagnosed with it in her early twenties and was bedridden from twenty-five
to her death in her early sixties. Every time I have complete blood tests I
have them test for it.

I have something similar to what you have in your neck, in my own neck,
from an auto accident when I was 17. I had it treated with chiropractic
early on, then took a few more hard blows to the head and face in my
twenties and it began seizing up again. (It may just be misalignment but
I believe the chiropractor said if I did not have it regularly treated it
would probably become degenerative, and I have not ...)

I am a little afraid of physicians when it comes to bone and joint problems.
But I will see one about my fingers eventually. It's odd, it is in the last
joints
of my little fingers! So while not really debilitating, it is annoying. The
really
strange thing my doctor cannot figure out: when I take Advair (the inhalant
steroid mix for preventing asthma symptoms) I have no joint pain and no back
pain.
(Another fall down the steps while sleepwalking gave me sciatica, another
story ...) Someone speculated that the anti-inflammatory effects of the
steroids, which certainly enter my bloodstream via my lungs, are enough
to affect my joints. Who knows. Anyway, I am on a break from the Advair
now, and that is the only reason I am thinking about the "twinges."

<Kanichi> wrote in message ...
> On 29 Oct 2006 18:11:22 +0200, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>><Kanichi> wrote in message ...
>>> On 29 Oct 2006 17:03:19 +0200, "cybercat" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"-L." > wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>> The kind that screws together is a pain in the ass too because
>>>>> eventually the gears stop fitting together properly and it doesn't
>>>>> grind right. I paid ten bucks for the last one and it lasted about a
>>>>> year and a half.
>>>>
>>>>We need a better pepper grinder design!
>>>>
>>> I like pepper.
>>
>>Is this dev null in yet another INGENIOUS DISGUISE?
>>
>>Who was that masked man!
>>
> Do you like pepper? I like monkees too. They are fun don't you think?

Hahaha! I LIKE MONKEES!!

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Muddle" > wrote
> >>
> > I don't think osteoarthritis or degenerative bone disease has much to do
> > with age or diet. Repetitive motion outside the normal range of motion
or
> > in other words constant abuse of joints and the tendons which hold those
> > joints in place causes it. Every pee wee football participant who
> > performed
> > daily neck bridges at twelve years of age has at thirty years of age
bone
> > spurs and osteoarthritis in their neck. It's why our mothers told us
not
> > to
> > crack our knuckles. I'm in my late forties and was diagnosed with
> > degenerative bone disease over twenty years ago in my neck. My doctors
> > don't suggest any exercise other than a brisk walk as the next accident
> > could be my last. Arthritis and Osteoarthritis are two different
beasts.
> > Given what you've said you could have it and an xray of your hands would
> > show bone loss and bone spurs. The term osteo means bone.
> >
>
> I was thinking of osteoarthritis vs Rheumatoid Arthritis--or maybe I don't
> have
> it right? I have always had a dread of the latter, as my father's mother
was
> diagnosed with it in her early twenties and was bedridden from twenty-five
> to her death in her early sixties. Every time I have complete blood tests
I
> have them test for it.
>
> I have something similar to what you have in your neck, in my own neck,
> from an auto accident when I was 17. I had it treated with chiropractic
> early on, then took a few more hard blows to the head and face in my
> twenties and it began seizing up again. (It may just be misalignment but
> I believe the chiropractor said if I did not have it regularly treated it
> would probably become degenerative, and I have not ...)
>
> I am a little afraid of physicians when it comes to bone and joint
problems.
> But I will see one about my fingers eventually. It's odd, it is in the
last
> joints
> of my little fingers! So while not really debilitating, it is annoying.
The
> really
> strange thing my doctor cannot figure out: when I take Advair (the
inhalant
> steroid mix for preventing asthma symptoms) I have no joint pain and no
back
> pain.
> (Another fall down the steps while sleepwalking gave me sciatica, another
> story ...) Someone speculated that the anti-inflammatory effects of the
> steroids, which certainly enter my bloodstream via my lungs, are enough
> to affect my joints. Who knows. Anyway, I am on a break from the Advair
> now, and that is the only reason I am thinking about the "twinges."
>
>
Inhalant steroids are another cause of degenerative bone disease or
osteoarthritis.
They're usually given for breathing/lung problems such as asthma/pleurisy
and a host of others.
They are also used to play the blame game among physicians and insurance
companies. Inhalers extend life, they never save lives and are not a cure
for anything.

In article >, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> >>> I like pepper.
> >>
> >>Is this dev null in yet another INGENIOUS DISGUISE?
> >>
> >>Who was that masked man!
> >>
> > Do you like pepper? I like monkees too. They are fun don't you think?
>
> Hahaha! I LIKE MONKEES!!

They're fun to take to political conventions...
They fling poo.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

"Muddle" > wrote
>>
> Inhalant steroids are another cause of degenerative bone disease or
> osteoarthritis.

I did not know that!


> They're usually given for breathing/lung problems such as asthma/pleurisy
> and a host of others.
> They are also used to play the blame game among physicians and insurance
> companies. Inhalers extend life, they never save lives and are not a cure
> for anything.
>

I know, but the relief is wonderful. I was undiagnosed for several years,
and my first puff of Advair, my lungs felt like a pair of gloves that had
been
stuck together, opening up, working right for the first time in years. The
sheer fatigue from walking around with severe asthma is so terrible.
Nobody talks about it--it is as though people think that if you are not
turning blue and gasping there is not a problem but not so. Just the
reduction of lung function sucks all the energy out of one. I work hard
to increase my lung capacity with cardio exercise, but Advair is a Godsend.
I sent my doctor a love note for diagnosing me, it was such a relief. I
thought I was just getting old before my time. I was in my mid-thirties.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Muddle" > wrote
> >>
> > Inhalant steroids are another cause of degenerative bone disease or
> > osteoarthritis.
>
> I did not know that!
>
>
> > They're usually given for breathing/lung problems such as
asthma/pleurisy
> > and a host of others.
> > They are also used to play the blame game among physicians and insurance
> > companies. Inhalers extend life, they never save lives and are not a
cure
> > for anything.
> >
>
> I know, but the relief is wonderful. I was undiagnosed for several years,
> and my first puff of Advair, my lungs felt like a pair of gloves that had
> been
> stuck together, opening up, working right for the first time in years. The
> sheer fatigue from walking around with severe asthma is so terrible.
> Nobody talks about it--it is as though people think that if you are not
> turning blue and gasping there is not a problem but not so. Just the
> reduction of lung function sucks all the energy out of one. I work hard
> to increase my lung capacity with cardio exercise, but Advair is a
Godsend.
> I sent my doctor a love note for diagnosing me, it was such a relief. I
> thought I was just getting old before my time. I was in my mid-thirties.
>
>
Dying doesn't bother me, the pain of living does.
Your doctor is playing a risk/reward game and I hope he or she told you
about the consequences. This is one of many treatments that can increase
the quality of life while shortening it. It's likely that you will live
longer than you would have otherwise. The problem is if you live long
enough your treatment will eventually kill you.

"Muddle" > wrote
> Dying doesn't bother me, the pain of living does.
> Your doctor is playing a risk/reward game and I hope he or she told you
> about the consequences. This is one of many treatments that can increase
> the quality of life while shortening it. It's likely that you will live
> longer than you would have otherwise. The problem is if you live long
> enough your treatment will eventually kill you.
>
>

I will look into the issue, thank you for letting me know.
I know two things for su

1. I am not going to get out in the end alive anyway

2. I really don't want to live feeling the way I did pre-Advair,
unless it is a last resort.

Oh--and, I forgot to mention: my doctor himself is on Advair.

Like me, he is both asthmatic and allergic to cats.

<Kanichi> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:36:50 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>><Kanichi> wrote in message ...
>>> On 29 Oct 2006 18:11:22 +0200, "cybercat" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>><Kanichi> wrote in message ...
>>>>> On 29 Oct 2006 17:03:19 +0200, "cybercat" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"-L." > wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The kind that screws together is a pain in the ass too because
>>>>>>> eventually the gears stop fitting together properly and it doesn't
>>>>>>> grind right. I paid ten bucks for the last one and it lasted about
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> year and a half.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We need a better pepper grinder design!
>>>>>>
>>>>> I like pepper.
>>>>
>>>>Is this dev null in yet another INGENIOUS DISGUISE?
>>>>
>>>>Who was that masked man!
>>>>
>>> Do you like pepper? I like monkees too. They are fun don't you think?
>>
>>Hahaha! I LIKE MONKEES!!
>>
> Really? My friend Cappy loved Monkees, and some other people like
> monkees too. Do you think Monkees can cook?

CAPPY! Wow, the legendary Cappy Hamper is YOUR FRIEND?

Can I be your friend too?

Or am I already, but I cannot tell due to your Ingenius Disguise?!

"Naughty Boy" > wrote
> Cappy Hamper? Where??
>

haha! I am so glad to see you. I look in on some of the old
groups from time to time, and was amazed when I saw you
posting again.

This email works, old friend.