I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.

The BITCH!!!

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>
> The BITCH!!!
>
> Andy

Stick a chair under it or something.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
> ...
>> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>>
>> The BITCH!!!
>>
>> Andy
>
> Stick a chair under it or something.

LOL!

kili

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Andy wrote:
>
> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>
> The BITCH!!!
>
> Andy

I know, I know! And it only gets worse before it starts to get better
on or about December 21, 2006 when the days start to get longer again.

Sky

Andy wrote:
> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>
> The BITCH!!!
>
> Andy

Huh? I like the night... "Listen to them, children of the night, what music
they make." Now invite me into your house, Andy

Jill

skyhooks said...

> Andy wrote:
>>
>> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>>
>> The BITCH!!!
>>
>> Andy
>
> I know, I know! And it only gets worse before it starts to get better
> on or about December 21, 2006 when the days start to get longer again.
>
> Sky


Why I hate Standard Time...


I hate when it's dark at 4 pm.!!!

I get sleepy earlier.

I feel like making dinner takes too long.

I feel like I'm working later than I should, when I'm NOT, when I DO!



Yours??

Andy

jmcquown said...

> Andy wrote:
>> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>>
>> The BITCH!!!
>>
>> Andy
>
> Huh? I like the night... "Listen to them, children of the night, what
> music they make." Now invite me into your house, Andy
>
> Jill


Sunshine!,

We'd make beautiful music together, assuredly! But you'd have to spend
the night. Night after night after night.

<smootch>

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> skyhooks said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>>
>>> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>>>
>>> The BITCH!!!
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> I know, I know! And it only gets worse before it starts to get better
>> on or about December 21, 2006 when the days start to get longer again.
>>
>> Sky
>
>
> Why I hate Standard Time...
>
>
> I hate when it's dark at 4 pm.!!!
>
> I get sleepy earlier.
>
> I feel like making dinner takes too long.
>
> I feel like I'm working later than I should, when I'm NOT, when I DO!
>
>
>
> Yours??
>
> Andy

Puerto Rico. Same day length all year, ALMOST. Close enough to eliminate the
complaints.

skyhooks > wrote in
:

> Andy wrote:
>>
>> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>>
>> The BITCH!!!
>>
>> Andy
>
> I know, I know! And it only gets worse before it starts to get
> better on or about December 21, 2006 when the days start to get
> longer again.

It's actually the winter solstice. Used to be December 11 in the old
calendar of Numa Pompilius, the day of Sol Indigetis, until a pope
adjusted the calendar by 11 days, making Saturnalia (December 14) fall
on December 25. I was born 8 hours after the solstice.

--

"There is a crack in everything,
That's how the light gets in."

Leonard Cohen, Anthem

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>
> The BITCH!!!
>
> Andy

I love it when I get my hour back. I hate it when they steal it.

Sheila

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:05:12 -0600, Andy <q> wrote:

>I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>
Oh, you're just a big baby. Next year, standard time will begin in
November. I just wish they'd pick ONE time and stick with it. I hate
switching back and forth.

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:31:03 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Andy wrote:
>> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>>
>> The BITCH!!!
>>
>> Andy
>
>Huh? I like the night... "Listen to them, children of the night, what music
>they make." Now invite me into your house, Andy
>
>Jill
>
There's two kinds of people in the world:
The day people and the night people,
And it's the night people's job
To take the day people's money.
--Ray Wylie Hubbard

http://www.raywylie.com/

OBFood: Chicken in the oven. Dinner soon.

--
modom

"Southern barbecue is a proud thoroughbred whose bloodlines are easily traced.
Texas Barbecue is a feisty mutt with a whole lot of crazy relatives."

--Robb Walsh, Legends of Texas Barbecue Cookbook

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> <sf> wrote in message ...
> > On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:09 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>Andy <q> :
> >>
> >>> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
> >>>
> >>> The BITCH!!!
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>
> >>Yepper it does suck. Keerist... getting my animals to adjust feeding time
> >>is a real bitch. The dog drags my ass up an hour earlier for her morning
> >>walk. It'll take a month to get them back to normal. I'll have to do it
> >>all over again in the spring.
> >>
> > It only started today fer crips sake.... who's the boss in your house
> > - you or the dog?
>
>
> Obviously, the dog is the boss, because that's the cool way to view things,
> even if it's stupid.

I can't agree with that... If you have an indoor dog and their "potty"
times are scheduled, they might reward your ignoring them by having an
accident.

They can't take themselves outside unless you have a doggy door and a
secure fenced yard.
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"ompOmelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> <sf> wrote in message ...
>> > On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:09 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Andy <q> :
>> >>
>> >>> I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>> >>>
>> >>> The BITCH!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Andy
>> >>
>> >>Yepper it does suck. Keerist... getting my animals to adjust feeding
>> >>time
>> >>is a real bitch. The dog drags my ass up an hour earlier for her
>> >>morning
>> >>walk. It'll take a month to get them back to normal. I'll have to do
>> >>it
>> >>all over again in the spring.
>> >>
>> > It only started today fer crips sake.... who's the boss in your house
>> > - you or the dog?
>>
>>
>> Obviously, the dog is the boss, because that's the cool way to view
>> things,
>> even if it's stupid.
>
> I can't agree with that... If you have an indoor dog and their "potty"
> times are scheduled, they might reward your ignoring them by having an
> accident.
>
> They can't take themselves outside unless you have a doggy door and a
> secure fenced yard.
> --
> Peace, Om

I was being facetious. I don't believe in having a pet which, after any
number of years, is no more advanced than a 6 month old human.

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> >> Obviously, the dog is the boss, because that's the cool way to view
> >> things,
> >> even if it's stupid.
> >
> > I can't agree with that... If you have an indoor dog and their "potty"
> > times are scheduled, they might reward your ignoring them by having an
> > accident.
> >
> > They can't take themselves outside unless you have a doggy door and a
> > secure fenced yard.
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> I was being facetious. I don't believe in having a pet which, after any
> number of years, is no more advanced than a 6 month old human.

I see your point, but a lot depends on the breed. IMHO some breeds of
dogs are not capable of advancing more than that. ;-)

It's one of the reason I like the collie breeds. If I got held over at
work or got stuck in traffic in Austin, our shelties would "hold it" for
up to 12 hours. We are down to one at the moment. <sigh>

I'm not sure how well the Border collie would do, but she's mainly an
outdoor dog. She only comes in in severe weather.

I adopted her as a watch dog so she has a job to do, and a comfortable
den to sleep in on the covered front porch.

She's way too hyper to be an indoor dog anyway. ;-)

I want to try Corgie's next. The one Corgie I adopted for my brother in
law and kept for 1 month seemed SO smart! Sweet too and very quick to
learn. I was loath to give her up when the time came. <sigh>
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:41:23 -0600, Andy wrote:

>> Huh? I like the night... "Listen to them, children of the night, what
>> music they make." Now invite me into your house, Andy
>>
>> Jill
>
> Sunshine!,
>
> We'd make beautiful music together, assuredly! But you'd have to spend
> the night. Night after night after night.
>
> <smootch>

Psst! Andy! Jill's a vampire and if you invite her in she'll come suck on
your neck and...erm...

Say, Jill, how's about coming over to my house for dinner?

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"ompOmelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> >> Obviously, the dog is the boss, because that's the cool way to view
>> >> things,
>> >> even if it's stupid.
>> >
>> > I can't agree with that... If you have an indoor dog and their "potty"
>> > times are scheduled, they might reward your ignoring them by having an
>> > accident.
>> >
>> > They can't take themselves outside unless you have a doggy door and a
>> > secure fenced yard.
>> > --
>> > Peace, Om
>>
>> I was being facetious. I don't believe in having a pet which, after any
>> number of years, is no more advanced than a 6 month old human.
>
> I see your point, but a lot depends on the breed. IMHO some breeds of
> dogs are not capable of advancing more than that. ;-)
>
> It's one of the reason I like the collie breeds. If I got held over at
> work or got stuck in traffic in Austin, our shelties would "hold it" for
> up to 12 hours. We are down to one at the moment. <sigh>
>
> I'm not sure how well the Border collie would do, but she's mainly an
> outdoor dog. She only comes in in severe weather.
>
> I adopted her as a watch dog so she has a job to do, and a comfortable
> den to sleep in on the covered front porch.
>
> She's way too hyper to be an indoor dog anyway. ;-)
>
> I want to try Corgie's next. The one Corgie I adopted for my brother in
> law and kept for 1 month seemed SO smart! Sweet too and very quick to
> learn. I was loath to give her up when the time came. <sigh>
> --
> Peace, Om

Border collies are evil. A relative had one that like to greet visitors by
jumping on their chests. One day, I showed up for dinner, straight from
work. The dog leapt on me, got its claws stuck in my suit jacket pocket, and
tore the left-front of the jacket down to the bottom seam. Ha ha. Too bad it
was a new Hickey-Freeman suit. Its owner wrote me a check. Ha ha. Great dog.
A month later, it chewed open a dental floss container and ate the floss.
This resulted in expensive surgery, since the floss tangled in the
intestines. Very expensive. Ha ha. Two incidents cost the woman upward of
$2000.00 in a period of a month.

JoeSpareBedroom said...

> "ompOmelet" > wrote in message
> news
>> In article >,
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>
>>> >> Obviously, the dog is the boss, because that's the cool way to
>>> >> view things,
>>> >> even if it's stupid.
>>> >
>>> > I can't agree with that... If you have an indoor dog and their
>>> > "potty" times are scheduled, they might reward your ignoring them
>>> > by having an accident.
>>> >
>>> > They can't take themselves outside unless you have a doggy door
>>> > and a secure fenced yard.
>>> > --
>>> > Peace, Om
>>>
>>> I was being facetious. I don't believe in having a pet which, after
>>> any number of years, is no more advanced than a 6 month old human.
>>
>> I see your point, but a lot depends on the breed. IMHO some breeds of
>> dogs are not capable of advancing more than that. ;-)
>>
>> It's one of the reason I like the collie breeds. If I got held over
>> at work or got stuck in traffic in Austin, our shelties would "hold
>> it" for up to 12 hours. We are down to one at the moment. <sigh>
>>
>> I'm not sure how well the Border collie would do, but she's mainly an
>> outdoor dog. She only comes in in severe weather.
>>
>> I adopted her as a watch dog so she has a job to do, and a
>> comfortable den to sleep in on the covered front porch.
>>
>> She's way too hyper to be an indoor dog anyway. ;-)
>>
>> I want to try Corgie's next. The one Corgie I adopted for my brother
>> in law and kept for 1 month seemed SO smart! Sweet too and very quick
>> to learn. I was loath to give her up when the time came. <sigh>
>> --
>> Peace, Om
>
> Border collies are evil. A relative had one that like to greet
> visitors by jumping on their chests. One day, I showed up for dinner,
> straight from work. The dog leapt on me, got its claws stuck in my
> suit jacket pocket, and tore the left-front of the jacket down to the
> bottom seam. Ha ha. Too bad it was a new Hickey-Freeman suit. Its
> owner wrote me a check. Ha ha. Great dog. A month later, it chewed
> open a dental floss container and ate the floss. This resulted in
> expensive surgery, since the floss tangled in the intestines. Very
> expensive. Ha ha. Two incidents cost the woman upward of $2000.00 in a
> period of a month.


I can speak of Jack Russell Terrors!

Years ago, our Annabelle would, whenever company came over, usually pee
at the top of the stairs to defend the bedroom territories. She had her
doggy door and was mindful about using it except for that!

We'd rip out the carpet routinely and chlorine treat the wood and replace
it, finally switching to cheap throw rugs. A small price to pay for "the
living doorbell"!

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> JoeSpareBedroom said...
>
>> "ompOmelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> In article >,
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> >> Obviously, the dog is the boss, because that's the cool way to
>>>> >> view things,
>>>> >> even if it's stupid.
>>>> >
>>>> > I can't agree with that... If you have an indoor dog and their
>>>> > "potty" times are scheduled, they might reward your ignoring them
>>>> > by having an accident.
>>>> >
>>>> > They can't take themselves outside unless you have a doggy door
>>>> > and a secure fenced yard.
>>>> > --
>>>> > Peace, Om
>>>>
>>>> I was being facetious. I don't believe in having a pet which, after
>>>> any number of years, is no more advanced than a 6 month old human.
>>>
>>> I see your point, but a lot depends on the breed. IMHO some breeds of
>>> dogs are not capable of advancing more than that. ;-)
>>>
>>> It's one of the reason I like the collie breeds. If I got held over
>>> at work or got stuck in traffic in Austin, our shelties would "hold
>>> it" for up to 12 hours. We are down to one at the moment. <sigh>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how well the Border collie would do, but she's mainly an
>>> outdoor dog. She only comes in in severe weather.
>>>
>>> I adopted her as a watch dog so she has a job to do, and a
>>> comfortable den to sleep in on the covered front porch.
>>>
>>> She's way too hyper to be an indoor dog anyway. ;-)
>>>
>>> I want to try Corgie's next. The one Corgie I adopted for my brother
>>> in law and kept for 1 month seemed SO smart! Sweet too and very quick
>>> to learn. I was loath to give her up when the time came. <sigh>
>>> --
>>> Peace, Om
>>
>> Border collies are evil. A relative had one that like to greet
>> visitors by jumping on their chests. One day, I showed up for dinner,
>> straight from work. The dog leapt on me, got its claws stuck in my
>> suit jacket pocket, and tore the left-front of the jacket down to the
>> bottom seam. Ha ha. Too bad it was a new Hickey-Freeman suit. Its
>> owner wrote me a check. Ha ha. Great dog. A month later, it chewed
>> open a dental floss container and ate the floss. This resulted in
>> expensive surgery, since the floss tangled in the intestines. Very
>> expensive. Ha ha. Two incidents cost the woman upward of $2000.00 in a
>> period of a month.
>
>
> I can speak of Jack Russell Terrors!
>
> Years ago, our Annabelle would, whenever company came over, usually pee
> at the top of the stairs to defend the bedroom territories. She had her
> doggy door and was mindful about using it except for that!
>
> We'd rip out the carpet routinely and chlorine treat the wood and replace
> it, finally switching to cheap throw rugs. A small price to pay for "the
> living doorbell"!
>
> Andy

Small price. OK. What else did you do for fun? Smash your toes on the coffee
table 5 times a week?

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> > JoeSpareBedroom said...
> >
> >> "ompOmelet" > wrote in message
> >> news > >>> In article >,
> >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >>>
>
> Small price. OK. What else did you do for fun? Smash your toes on the
coffee
> table 5 times a week?
>
>

I tend to do that. I must think it's fun.

kili <--- the ultimate klutz

JoeSpareBedroom said...

>> I can speak of Jack Russell Terrors!
>>
>> Years ago, our Annabelle would, whenever company came over, usually
>> pee at the top of the stairs to defend the bedroom territories. She
>> had her doggy door and was mindful about using it except for that!
>>
>> We'd rip out the carpet routinely and chlorine treat the wood and
>> replace it, finally switching to cheap throw rugs. A small price to
>> pay for "the living doorbell"!
>>
>> Andy
>
> Small price. OK. What else did you do for fun? Smash your toes on the
> coffee table 5 times a week?


Joe,

Go back to sleep!

Andy

"kilikini" > wrote in message
.. .
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> > JoeSpareBedroom said...
>> >
>> >> "ompOmelet" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >>> In article >,
>> >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> >>>
>>
>> Small price. OK. What else did you do for fun? Smash your toes on the
> coffee
>> table 5 times a week?
>>
>>
>
> I tend to do that. I must think it's fun.
>
> kili <--- the ultimate klutz
>
>

I guess I'm in the minority here. I thought most people got tired of playing
with urine at a certain age, like....2.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:45:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>
>Border collies are evil. A relative had one that like to greet visitors by
>jumping on their chests. One day, I showed up for dinner, straight from
>work. The dog leapt on me, got its claws stuck in my suit jacket pocket, and
>tore the left-front of the jacket down to the bottom seam. Ha ha. Too bad it
>was a new Hickey-Freeman suit. Its owner wrote me a check. Ha ha. Great dog.
>A month later, it chewed open a dental floss container and ate the floss.
>This resulted in expensive surgery, since the floss tangled in the
>intestines. Very expensive. Ha ha. Two incidents cost the woman upward of
>$2000.00 in a period of a month.


They aren't evil... they are working dogs that need a job. They are
very active animals and people who decide to own one should be aware
of that. Sounds like she didn't train her dog and should own a basset
instead. Bassets are loving animals. A little dumb, but sedentary
and sweet.

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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:45:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>Border collies are evil. A relative had one that like to greet visitors by
>>jumping on their chests. One day, I showed up for dinner, straight from
>>work. The dog leapt on me, got its claws stuck in my suit jacket pocket,
>>and
>>tore the left-front of the jacket down to the bottom seam. Ha ha. Too bad
>>it
>>was a new Hickey-Freeman suit. Its owner wrote me a check. Ha ha. Great
>>dog.
>>A month later, it chewed open a dental floss container and ate the floss.
>>This resulted in expensive surgery, since the floss tangled in the
>>intestines. Very expensive. Ha ha. Two incidents cost the woman upward of
>>$2000.00 in a period of a month.
>
>
> They aren't evil... they are working dogs that need a job. They are
> very active animals and people who decide to own one should be aware
> of that. Sounds like she didn't train her dog and should own a basset
> instead. Bassets are loving animals. A little dumb, but sedentary
> and sweet.
>

Fortunately, the border collie is dead.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:42:55 -0800, sf wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:45:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>
>They aren't evil... they are working dogs that need a job. They are
>very active animals and people who decide to own one should be aware
>of that. Sounds like she didn't train her dog and should own a
basset
>instead. Bassets are loving animals. A little dumb, but sedentary
>and sweet.

I have a rescued Border Collie who is not quite 2 years old. She
lived in a crate in an apartment for most of her first 7 months.
Brought her to our farm and she did a remarkable job of harassing all
the wild chickens or killing them (sorry) but that is what we wanted.
She worked very hard. (The chickens were trying to get into the house
through the cat door- aargh!) The huge wild pigs at night stymie her,
but she is always on alert. She thinks she should chase the birds
from the hanging bird feeder about 10 times each morning- the birds
are getting smarter, but no harm done. She studied a helicopter
yesterday, staring up into the sky and I wonder what she thought. She
is a wonderful dog except when she brings avocados in through that
same cat door, to eat on the living room rug. She also is a loving
"nanny" to our newest 4 month old mongrel.

aloha,
beans
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> Fortunately, the border collie is dead.

Everyone I've talked to or read posts from in this newsgroup seem like
kind, genuinely good people... except for you.

- Scott

"scottdanzig" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> Fortunately, the border collie is dead.
>
> Everyone I've talked to or read posts from in this newsgroup seem like
> kind, genuinely good people... except for you.
>
> - Scott
>

People always say that when the subject of dogs comes up. But, they're no
different than mosquitoes, so I don't see what the problem is. Just because
YOU think they're cute or useful or special doesn't mean everyone else has
to agree.

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>I hate Standard Time. The sun set at 4:45.
>
> The BITCH!!!
>
> Andy

I hate daylight time. I much prefer standard time.

Ms P

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> Border collies are evil. A relative had one that like to greet visitors by
> jumping on their chests. One day, I showed up for dinner, straight from
> work. The dog leapt on me, got its claws stuck in my suit jacket pocket, and
> tore the left-front of the jacket down to the bottom seam. Ha ha. Too bad it
> was a new Hickey-Freeman suit. Its owner wrote me a check. Ha ha. Great dog.

I've trained my border collie NOT to jump up on company.
It's difficult with them but not impossible.

BC's are only evil if the dumbasses that own them don't make an effort
to train them. They are very responsive and highly intelligent.

It's the owners that are evil not the dog.

> A month later, it chewed open a dental floss container and ate the floss.
> This resulted in expensive surgery, since the floss tangled in the
> intestines. Very expensive. Ha ha. Two incidents cost the woman upward of
> $2000.00 in a period of a month.

Again, the owners fault...

BC's need a large fenced yard.

When I first adopted her, she was a chewer. I called the shelter and
asked for advice. They recommended peanut butter or cheese stuffed Kong
toys. By using those and other dog toys, I trained her that it was ok to
chew the things I gave her but not "my" stuff.

Guess what? It worked.

BC's do need to be provided with toys for when they are bored.
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In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

>
> I can speak of Jack Russell Terrors!
>
> Years ago, our Annabelle would, whenever company came over, usually pee
> at the top of the stairs to defend the bedroom territories. She had her
> doggy door and was mindful about using it except for that!
>
> We'd rip out the carpet routinely and chlorine treat the wood and replace
> it, finally switching to cheap throw rugs. A small price to pay for "the
> living doorbell"!
>
> Andy

I would have gated the stairway.
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In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

<snipped>
> >
> > I can speak of Jack Russell Terrors!
> >
> > Years ago, our Annabelle would, whenever company came over, usually pee
> > at the top of the stairs to defend the bedroom territories. She had her
> > doggy door and was mindful about using it except for that!
> >
> > We'd rip out the carpet routinely and chlorine treat the wood and replace
> > it, finally switching to cheap throw rugs. A small price to pay for "the
> > living doorbell"!
> >
> > Andy
>
> Small price. OK. What else did you do for fun? Smash your toes on the coffee
> table 5 times a week?

PLEASE trim your posts!

Thank you.

Hell, even _I'm_ learning to do it. ;-)
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In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> JoeSpareBedroom said...
>
> >> I can speak of Jack Russell Terrors!
> >>
> >> Years ago, our Annabelle would, whenever company came over, usually
> >> pee at the top of the stairs to defend the bedroom territories. She
> >> had her doggy door and was mindful about using it except for that!
> >>
> >> We'd rip out the carpet routinely and chlorine treat the wood and
> >> replace it, finally switching to cheap throw rugs. A small price to
> >> pay for "the living doorbell"!
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > Small price. OK. What else did you do for fun? Smash your toes on the
> > coffee table 5 times a week?
>
>
> Joe,
>
> Go back to sleep!
>
> Andy

Joe is obviously a dog hater.

Wonder if he hates cats too?
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"ompOmelet" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> Border collies are evil. A relative had one that like to greet visitors
>> by
>> jumping on their chests. One day, I showed up for dinner, straight from
>> work. The dog leapt on me, got its claws stuck in my suit jacket pocket,
>> and
>> tore the left-front of the jacket down to the bottom seam. Ha ha. Too bad
>> it
>> was a new Hickey-Freeman suit. Its owner wrote me a check. Ha ha. Great
>> dog.
>
> I've trained my border collie NOT to jump up on company.
> It's difficult with them but not impossible.
>
> BC's are only evil if the dumbasses that own them don't make an effort
> to train them. They are very responsive and highly intelligent.
>
> It's the owners that are evil not the dog.

Dog owners are trained by their dogs to do the wrong things. This will
generate objections, the use of the word "trained". People prefer to hear
that they "made adjustments to their routines". But, adjustment,
conditioning, training...it's all the same thing.

In article >, sf wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:45:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Border collies are evil. A relative had one that like to greet visitors by
> >jumping on their chests. One day, I showed up for dinner, straight from
> >work. The dog leapt on me, got its claws stuck in my suit jacket pocket, and
> >tore the left-front of the jacket down to the bottom seam. Ha ha. Too bad it
> >was a new Hickey-Freeman suit. Its owner wrote me a check. Ha ha. Great dog.
> >A month later, it chewed open a dental floss container and ate the floss.
> >This resulted in expensive surgery, since the floss tangled in the
> >intestines. Very expensive. Ha ha. Two incidents cost the woman upward of
> >$2000.00 in a period of a month.
>
>
> They aren't evil... they are working dogs that need a job. They are
> very active animals and people who decide to own one should be aware
> of that. Sounds like she didn't train her dog and should own a basset
> instead. Bassets are loving animals. A little dumb, but sedentary
> and sweet.

Yay! :-)
Someone that "gets it".

Thousands of BC's are put to sleep in the pounds every year because
people don't research the breeds of dogs before picking out that cute
little fuzzy puppy.

This is why puppy farms need to be banned. Responsible breeders
interview the prospective adopters.

I adopted Jewely as an 8 month old youngster from the animal shelter...
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On Oct 30, 2:37 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "scottdanzig" > wrote in ooglegroups.com...
>
> > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >> Fortunately, the border collie is dead.
>
> > Everyone I've talked to or read posts from in this newsgroup seem like
> > kind, genuinely good people... except for you.
> > - Scott
>
> People always say that when the subject of dogs comes up. But, they're no
> different than mosquitoes, so I don't see what the problem is. Just because
> YOU think they're cute or useful or special doesn't mean everyone else has
> to agree.

While I do admit to the personal bias of "loving dogs" (I find fault in
the dog, not the owner), that is not even what irks me about the post I
responded to. While it's true that you can austerely describe your
comment off as non-conformist, independent thinking, you can certainly,
with common sense, gauge the provocation of shock and disgust in those
reading your posts. I'm not sure about the full extent of your
callousness either. What's next? Are you going to lump in screaming
babies, senior citizens that drive poorly, the mentally challenged that
can't hold a job, and cripples that obstruct your path on the sidewalk.
Do they fall into your "not useful" category and deserve to die? I
wasn't just commenting on this post alone, however; I can tell from
your other posts that you're not out to make friends here anyway.

- Scott

On Oct 30, 3:26 pm, "scottdanzig" > wrote:

> (I find fault in the dog, not the owner)

Switch "dog" and "owner".

"scottdanzig" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Oct 30, 2:37 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> "scottdanzig" > wrote in
>> ooglegroups.com...
>>
>> > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> >> Fortunately, the border collie is dead.
>>
>> > Everyone I've talked to or read posts from in this newsgroup seem like
>> > kind, genuinely good people... except for you.
>> > - Scott
>>
>> People always say that when the subject of dogs comes up. But, they're no
>> different than mosquitoes, so I don't see what the problem is. Just
>> because
>> YOU think they're cute or useful or special doesn't mean everyone else
>> has
>> to agree.
>
> While I do admit to the personal bias of "loving dogs" (I find fault in
> the dog, not the owner), that is not even what irks me about the post I
> responded to. While it's true that you can austerely describe your
> comment off as non-conformist, independent thinking, you can certainly,
> with common sense, gauge the provocation of shock and disgust in those
> reading your posts. I'm not sure about the full extent of your
> callousness either. What's next? Are you going to lump in screaming
> babies, senior citizens that drive poorly, the mentally challenged that
> can't hold a job, and cripples that obstruct your path on the sidewalk.
> Do they fall into your "not useful" category and deserve to die? I
> wasn't just commenting on this post alone, however; I can tell from
> your other posts that you're not out to make friends here anyway.
>
> - Scott
>

I'll admit that I am a challenge, but a few of the higher-functioning people
here have managed to figure me out.

As far as shock and disgust, that's all relative, isn't it? My experiences
with dogs are just as valid as yours. Because of my history with the vermin,
I view them as annoyances, like mosquitoes, and many of their owners as
criminals and/or idiots. I won't elaborate here, but if I did, you would
have a difficult time disagreeing with me.

"scottdanzig" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Oct 30, 3:26 pm, "scottdanzig" > wrote:
>
>> (I find fault in the dog, not the owner)
>
> Switch "dog" and "owner".
>

But, the dog trains the owner to do obnoxious things. You were right the
first time.

"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
6.121...

> Was the owner that stupid to leave dental floss out where the dog could
> get
> to it? God created the medicine chest to store bathroom items.
>
> Michael

If I recall, it was on top of a rather tall bureau in the bedroom. The dog
had to have jumped up almost 5 feet.

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> > It's the owners that are evil not the dog.
>
> Dog owners are trained by their dogs to do the wrong things. This will
> generate objections, the use of the word "trained". People prefer to hear
> that they "made adjustments to their routines". But, adjustment,
> conditioning, training...it's all the same thing.

You obviously know zilch about dog training.
When you have your own dog (and god help that poor animal) and learn a
little more about them and training them, then and only then will you be
qualified to comment on that.

Children train their parents the same way. Babies have certain needs. So
do dogs. By adopting a dog and accepting responsibility for it...

But I see that you are a very selfish person. I hope to god you never
had or have children.

You'd probably "train" your newborn baby by letting it go hungry at
night and sleep in a dirty diaper.

And don't say that's not the same thing because it is. It's taking
responsibility for another life form.....
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