"Ubiquitous" > wrote in message
. ..
> This ep starts with SLop in front of a house with Kimber. As Kimber takes
> the
> store-bought bundt cakes inside, SLop rattles off this week's menu. What
> the
> hell is that green thing sticking out of her grocery bag? It looks like a
> green leafy vegetable of some sort, but this is SLop! I am so confused...
>
>

I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
weren't edible.

Puzz

In article > ,
"puzzlr" > wrote:

> "Ubiquitous" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > This ep starts with SLop in front of a house with Kimber. As Kimber takes
> > the
> > store-bought bundt cakes inside, SLop rattles off this week's menu. What
> > the
> > hell is that green thing sticking out of her grocery bag? It looks like a
> > green leafy vegetable of some sort, but this is SLop! I am so confused...
> >
> >
>
> I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
> RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
> weren't edible.
>
> Puzz

http://www.hub-uk.com/cooking/tipsBBQribs.htm

"The secret to great ribs is to boil them first!

Wrong!!!! . . . Never, ever boil your ribs!!!! I don't care what your
mother taught you or what a famous chef on FoodTV did. Never, ever boil
!! "

On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:10:35 GMT, "puzzlr" > wrote:

>I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
>RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
>weren't edible.

The only ribs I really like, besides my own grilled Korean ribs, are
James's, and he boils them. To each her own.

Serene
--
"I can't decide if I feel more like four ten-year-olds or ten four-year-olds." Laurie Anderson , on turning 40.

http://serenejournal.livejournal.com

In article >,
Serene > wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:10:35 GMT, "puzzlr" > wrote:
>
> >I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
> >RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
> >weren't edible.
>
> The only ribs I really like, besides my own grilled Korean ribs, are
> James's, and he boils them. To each her own.


If you had seen the show, you wouldn't be posting this.

:-(

She boiled them (little ones) for three hours. When she pulled them out
of the pot, they just fell to pieces, "Oh that's OK". Then she put them
on the grill, and pasted on sauce. Now, bottled BBQ sauce is already
pretty sweet, but she mixed it half and half with honey!

I looked at the web site, and it said to boil for one hour. I guess
Sandra Lee isn't real good at following her own recipes.

--
Dan Abel

Petaluma, California, USA

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:08:39 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> Serene > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:10:35 GMT, "puzzlr" > wrote:
>>
>> >I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
>> >RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
>> >weren't edible.
>>
>> The only ribs I really like, besides my own grilled Korean ribs, are
>> James's, and he boils them. To each her own.
>
>
>If you had seen the show, you wouldn't be posting this.

Yeah, I would.

>
>:-(
>
>She boiled them (little ones) for three hours. When she pulled them out
>of the pot, they just fell to pieces, "Oh that's OK". Then she put them
>on the grill, and pasted on sauce. Now, bottled BBQ sauce is already
>pretty sweet, but she mixed it half and half with honey!

Well, that's just gross. :-)

Serene
--
"I can't decide if I feel more like four ten-year-olds or ten four-year-olds." Laurie Anderson , on turning 40.

http://serenejournal.livejournal.com

My Mom always boiled ribs before grilling or broiling with sauce. It is
common. I usually braise ribs with a dry rub before saucing/grilling.
Alton Brown has a similar approach.

puzzlr wrote:

>
> I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
> RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
> weren't edible.
>
> Puzz
>
>
>

"Dennis" > wrote in message
. ..
> puzzlr wrote:
>
>>
>> I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
>> RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
>> weren't edible.
>>
>> Puzz
>>
>>
>>> My Mom always boiled ribs before grilling or broiling with sauce. It is
> common. I usually braise ribs with a dry rub before saucing/grilling.
> Alton Brown has a similar approach.
>

Your top posting was kinda confusing. I don't care who says it's okay to
boil your ribs before you cook them, its wrong and nasty. Where do you
live, btw? If you try that crap here (TX) you'll get run out on a rail.

Puzz

Originally from Chicago. Not recommending "boiling" (think it weakens
the flavor of the meat) but it is common. However the braising is a good
method. Breaks down the connective tissue but still leaves "bite" and
the dry rub mixing with the braising liquid is the start of a good
sauce for the grill.

Dennis

puzzlr wrote:
>
> Your top posting was kinda confusing. I don't care who says it's okay to
> boil your ribs before you cook them, its wrong and nasty. Where do you
> live, btw? If you try that crap here (TX) you'll get run out on a rail.
>
> Puzz
>
>
>

When in Rome (top posting).... common or not, it still makes for a bad
piece of meat. If you're going to BBQ your ribs, then BBQ them. If you're
boiling them, only to slop BBQ sauce on them later, tell your guests. It
also ticks me off when people grill their food and call it BBQ. Its not
BBQ, its grilling. Sheesh

Puzz


"Dennis" > wrote in message
...
> Originally from Chicago. Not recommending "boiling" (think it weakens the
> flavor of the meat) but it is common. However the braising is a good
> method. Breaks down the connective tissue but still leaves "bite" and the
> dry rub mixing with the braising liquid is the start of a good sauce for
> the grill.
>
> Dennis
>
> puzzlr wrote:
>>
>> Your top posting was kinda confusing. I don't care who says it's okay to
>> boil your ribs before you cook them, its wrong and nasty. Where do you
>> live, btw? If you try that crap here (TX) you'll get run out on a rail.
>>
>> Puzz
>>
>>
>>
>

In article >,
"puzzlr" > wrote:

> When in Rome (top posting).... common or not, it still makes for a bad
> piece of meat. If you're going to BBQ your ribs, then BBQ them. If you're
> boiling them, only to slop BBQ sauce on them later, tell your guests. It
> also ticks me off when people grill their food and call it BBQ. Its not
> BBQ, its grilling. Sheesh

Yeah, she does that too. "BBQs" food by putting it on her grill pan or
under the broiler.
>
> Puzz
>
>
> "Dennis" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Originally from Chicago. Not recommending "boiling" (think it weakens the
> > flavor of the meat) but it is common. However the braising is a good
> > method. Breaks down the connective tissue but still leaves "bite" and the
> > dry rub mixing with the braising liquid is the start of a good sauce for
> > the grill.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > puzzlr wrote:
> >>
> >> Your top posting was kinda confusing. I don't care who says it's okay to
> >> boil your ribs before you cook them, its wrong and nasty. Where do you
> >> live, btw? If you try that crap here (TX) you'll get run out on a rail.
> >>
> >> Puzz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >

"Anim8rFSK" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "puzzlr" > wrote:
>
>> When in Rome (top posting).... common or not, it still makes for a bad
>> piece of meat. If you're going to BBQ your ribs, then BBQ them. If
>> you're
>> boiling them, only to slop BBQ sauce on them later, tell your guests. It
>> also ticks me off when people grill their food and call it BBQ. Its not
>> BBQ, its grilling. Sheesh
>
> Yeah, she does that too. "BBQs" food by putting it on her grill pan or
> under the broiler.

That's just nasty. There is a local chain here in Houston, and it is
claimed that they boil their ribs before putting them on the grill. Don't
know if they do or not, but they aren't at the top of my list when it comes
to good BBQ. Perhaps that is why.

Puzz ~ in Texas

wrote:
> "puzzlr" > wrote:

>> When in Rome (top posting).... common or not, it still makes for a bad
>> piece of meat. If you're going to BBQ your ribs, then BBQ them. If you're
>> boiling them, only to slop BBQ sauce on them later, tell your guests. It
>> also ticks me off when people grill their food and call it BBQ. Its not
>> BBQ, its grilling. Sheesh
>
>Yeah, she does that too. "BBQs" food by putting it on her grill pan or
>under the broiler.

If we're lucky -- wasn't there a BBQ recipe in which it was roasted or cooked
in a crock pot?

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puzzlr wrote:

> When in Rome (top posting

You're badly confused. This thread is also posted to rec.arts.tv and
rec.food.cooking, where the standards are normal posting. Either group
individually has far more traffic than that Food Network one, together
they overwhelm it.

Do what's right, not what you think some other people want.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

I do. Thats whay I top post rather than follow an outdated convention.

Default User wrote:
> puzzlr wrote:
>
>
>>When in Rome (top posting
>
>
> You're badly confused. This thread is also posted to rec.arts.tv and
> rec.food.cooking, where the standards are normal posting. Either group
> individually has far more traffic than that Food Network one, together
> they overwhelm it.
>
> Do what's right, not what you think some other people want.
>
>
>
> Brian
>

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> puzzlr wrote:
>
>> When in Rome (top posting
>
> You're badly confused. This thread is also posted to rec.arts.tv and
> rec.food.cooking, where the standards are normal posting. Either group
> individually has far more traffic than that Food Network one, together
> they overwhelm it.
>
> Do what's right, not what you think some other people want.
>

When I responded to their top post, I posted at the end. When I got their
reply, it was again top posted. Either they didn't know or they don't care.
So why beat them up by calling them names? Names, that I have been called
btw, just because of my little joke. Either the people on these groups need
to get out more or they need to get their heads out of their asses. It's
like calling someone for misspelling a word. Sheesh. You know what they
meant, so why bother?

Puzz

Regional difference (BBQ means sauce in the midwest). Please remember
that relaying an observation is not advocating. Making ribs in a home
usually means something other than total grilling - whether it is
boiling, braising or the oven. Grilling is for finishing.

Dennis

puzzlr wrote:
> When in Rome (top posting).... common or not, it still makes for a bad
> piece of meat. If you're going to BBQ your ribs, then BBQ them. If you're
> boiling them, only to slop BBQ sauce on them later, tell your guests. It
> also ticks me off when people grill their food and call it BBQ. Its not
> BBQ, its grilling. Sheesh
>
> Puzz
>
>
> "Dennis" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Originally from Chicago. Not recommending "boiling" (think it weakens the
>>flavor of the meat) but it is common. However the braising is a good
>>method. Breaks down the connective tissue but still leaves "bite" and the
>>dry rub mixing with the braising liquid is the start of a good sauce for
>>the grill.
>>
>>Dennis
>>
>>puzzlr wrote:
>>
>>>Your top posting was kinda confusing. I don't care who says it's okay to
>>>boil your ribs before you cook them, its wrong and nasty. Where do you
>>>live, btw? If you try that crap here (TX) you'll get run out on a rail.
>>>
>>>Puzz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Okay... but here if you are BBQ at home, it means setting up the grill and
slow cooking your meat. Anything less and you should tell your guests. My
neighbors BBQ nearly every weekend, but do they send over a plate? No. Do
they send over any bones (for my salivating dogs)? No. Assholes! They'd
better not ask for a cup of sugar.

Puzz


"Dennis" > wrote in message
. ..
> Regional difference (BBQ means sauce in the midwest). Please remember that
> relaying an observation is not advocating. Making ribs in a home usually
> means something other than total grilling - whether it is boiling,
> braising or the oven. Grilling is for finishing.
>
> Dennis
>
> puzzlr wrote:
>> When in Rome (top posting).... common or not, it still makes for a bad
>> piece of meat. If you're going to BBQ your ribs, then BBQ them. If
>> you're boiling them, only to slop BBQ sauce on them later, tell your
>> guests. It also ticks me off when people grill their food and call it
>> BBQ. Its not BBQ, its grilling. Sheesh
>>
>> Puzz
>>
>>
>> "Dennis" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Originally from Chicago. Not recommending "boiling" (think it weakens the
>>>flavor of the meat) but it is common. However the braising is a good
>>>method. Breaks down the connective tissue but still leaves "bite" and the
>>>dry rub mixing with the braising liquid is the start of a good sauce for
>>>the grill.
>>>
>>>Dennis
>>>
>>>puzzlr wrote:
>>>
>>>>Your top posting was kinda confusing. I don't care who says it's okay
>>>>to boil your ribs before you cook them, its wrong and nasty. Where do
>>>>you live, btw? If you try that crap here (TX) you'll get run out on a
>>>>rail.
>>>>
>>>>Puzz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

In article >,
wrote:

>My Mom always boiled ribs before grilling or broiling with sauce.
>It is common.

But do you boil them for three or four hours AT A HARD BOIL?

I never boil my ribs but my Mom did boil for hours. Boiling depended
more on her time than a recipes. The water does get disgusting.

Ubiquitous wrote:
> In article >,
> wrote:
>
>
>>My Mom always boiled ribs before grilling or broiling with sauce.
>>It is common.
>
>
> But do you boil them for three or four hours AT A HARD BOIL?
>
>

In article >,
wrote:
>Ubiquitous wrote:
>> In article >,
>> wrote:

>>>My Mom always boiled ribs before grilling or broiling with sauce.
>>>It is common.
>>
>> But do you boil them for three or four hours AT A HARD BOIL?
>
>I never boil my ribs but my Mom did boil for hours. Boiling depended
>more on her time than a recipes. The water does get disgusting.

Not simmered, boiled. As in "the broth is heavily bubbling and about to spill
over the top of the pan".

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Boiled Ribs are a German dish and they are very much edible. Ribs,
sauerkraut, apples. Don't remember the name of it because I haven't
had it in 30 years, but...

Don

puzzlr wrote:
> "Ubiquitous" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > This ep starts with SLop in front of a house with Kimber. As Kimber takes
> > the
> > store-bought bundt cakes inside, SLop rattles off this week's menu. What
> > the
> > hell is that green thing sticking out of her grocery bag? It looks like a
> > green leafy vegetable of some sort, but this is SLop! I am so confused...
> >
> >
>
> I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
> RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
> weren't edible.
>
> Puzz

Since you guys love top posting.... I never said they weren't edible.
Hell, everything is edible if you gave it a try. But I still say you can
taste the difference and it's not good. BBQ (or slow cooking over indirect
heat) is the best way to cook a rib. Oh, and its edible too.

Puzz


> wrote in message
s.com...
> Boiled Ribs are a German dish and they are very much edible. Ribs,
> sauerkraut, apples. Don't remember the name of it because I haven't
> had it in 30 years, but...
>
> Don
>
> puzzlr wrote:
>> "Ubiquitous" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>> > This ep starts with SLop in front of a house with Kimber. As Kimber
>> > takes
>> > the
>> > store-bought bundt cakes inside, SLop rattles off this week's menu.
>> > What
>> > the
>> > hell is that green thing sticking out of her grocery bag? It looks like
>> > a
>> > green leafy vegetable of some sort, but this is SLop! I am so
>> > confused...
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
>> RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
>> weren't edible.
>>
>> Puzz
>

Never said you cant taste the difference (or that it is good). Just that
it is a common way to cook ribs before grilling. They also make a great
pasta sauce.

Dennis

puzzlr wrote:
> Since you guys love top posting.... I never said they weren't edible.
> Hell, everything is edible if you gave it a try. But I still say you can
> taste the difference and it's not good. BBQ (or slow cooking over indirect
> heat) is the best way to cook a rib. Oh, and its edible too.
>
> Puzz
>
>
> > wrote in message
> s.com...
>
>>Boiled Ribs are a German dish and they are very much edible. Ribs,
>>sauerkraut, apples. Don't remember the name of it because I haven't
>>had it in 30 years, but...
>>
>>Don
>>
>>puzzlr wrote:
>>
>>>"Ubiquitous" > wrote in message
om...
>>>
>>>>This ep starts with SLop in front of a house with Kimber. As Kimber
>>>>takes
>>>>the
>>>>store-bought bundt cakes inside, SLop rattles off this week's menu.
>>>>What
>>>>the
>>>>hell is that green thing sticking out of her grocery bag? It looks like
>>>>a
>>>>green leafy vegetable of some sort, but this is SLop! I am so
>>>>confused...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I gave up on her, when she said it was okay to boil your ribs. BOILED
>>>RIBS?!! I forgot what she did with them afterwards, because I know they
>>>weren't edible.
>>>
>>>Puzz
>>
>
>

"jeremy" > wrote in message
t...
> puzzlr wrote:
>> Since you guys love top posting....
>
> Since you are too dumb to snip, top posting is a good idea.
>

No, ass-wipe, I'm not too dumb. Just pointing out how not only did they top
post once, but twice. Notice how you never said anything about their top
posting. Yeah, I thought so. Shit head.

Puzz

"jeremy" > wrote in message
...
> puzzlr wrote:
>> Since you guys love top posting....
>
> Since you haven't learned to snip, top posting is a good idea.
>

Oh, I snip all the time. They top posted not once, but twice, so I thought
I'd go along <with the gag>. Notice how you guys never piped in to
straighten THEM out, only the messenger.

Puzz