"Zilbandy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:41:57 -0600, "MaryL"
> -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
>
>>I was also told by a plumber not to use hot water when disposing of fatty
>>foods, but it had nothing to do with burning up a motor. I have forgotten
>>the precise reasoning, but it had to do with cold water being more likely
>>to
>>keep fat in pieces that could more readily be washed down the drain
>>instead
>>of gathering in one place to clog the drains. I know that wasn't exactly
>>the explanation, but he was referring specifically to fats that would melt
>>in hot water.
>
> That might be true, but when my sink gets clogged from too much gunk,
> I usually get it flowing again by using lots of hot water to melt the
> gunk and move it further down the line. Whatever works is all that
> matters, though.
>
> --
> Zilbandy - Tucson, Arizona USA >
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The plumber I was quoting (or as close to it as I could remember) was
talking specifically about not using hot water with fatty foods. He
actually recommended a hot water "wash" for the drain lines occasionally.
I'm not sure how the different operations work, but I have done both ever
since he told me -- and, so far, no clogged or slow drains.

MaryL

"maxine in ri" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> Jen wrote:
>> "Matt" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >A few years back, we replaced our 1969 garbage disposer.
>> >
>> > The new one requires scrubbing or other work to keep it from stinking
>> > up
>> > the house. The old one didn't require any of that.
>> >
>> > Does anybody know a current model garbage disposer that doesn't require
>> > cleaning?
>>
>> Are they very common in America? I've never heard of anyone having them
>> in
>> Australia. I've only ever seen them on TV. I throw all of that stuff
>> into
>> the compost bin out the back, to go into the garden when ready. Improves
>> the soil heaps.
>>
>>
>> Jen
>
> Do you toss the animal bits int here as well? No matter how much leaf
> mulch I have in the pile, animal remains stink and draw critters. We
> only throw plant matter (fruits, veggies, some grains) and very little
> fat. You are 100% about the soil inmprovement. It's amazing.


No I usually chuck that in the bin.

Jen

Jocelyn De Contents wrote:

> I always was told never to run hot water in the disposal as it can
> overheat the motor. I do place ice cubes in mine to "clean" and
> "sharpen" the mechanism. But I use cold water for the process.
>
LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Since when does the hot
water come in contact with the motor??

Steve B wrote:
> If your wife is like mine, she thinks that a garbage disposal is like a
> trash can. You wait until it is full, then empty it.
>
> I just about have her trained. But still, at any time, I can go flip the
> switch and there will be something in there to grind up.
>
> She just doesn't get it.
>
> If you EMPTY the garbage disposal WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THERE, it can't
> stink. It's gone on its way down the pipe.
>
I'm embarrassed to be a woman if that is what your wife really thinks
and does. Good grief.
If I just put stuff in there, it wouldn't take long for the sink to back
up when I was running water to do anything else. Does she not use the
sink for anything else between running the disposal....? She doesn't
notice the problem here..?

MaryL wrote:

> I was also told by a plumber not to use hot water when disposing of fatty
> foods, but it had nothing to do with burning up a motor. I have forgotten
> the precise reasoning, but it had to do with cold water being more likely to
> keep fat in pieces that could more readily be washed down the drain instead
> of gathering in one place to clog the drains. I know that wasn't exactly
> the explanation, but he was referring specifically to fats that would melt
> in hot water.
>

One shouldn't pour fat down the drain in the first place though. Save a
can or old jar for those purposes and toss 'em into the trash.

MaryL wrote:

> The plumber I was quoting (or as close to it as I could remember) was
> talking specifically about not using hot water with fatty foods. He
> actually recommended a hot water "wash" for the drain lines occasionally.
> I'm not sure how the different operations work, but I have done both ever
> since he told me -- and, so far, no clogged or slow drains.
>
You don't need to do a special "hot water wash" with your pipes.. Every
time you drain a pot of pasta you'll be doing it.

Goomba38 wrote:
> Steve B wrote:
>> If your wife is like mine, she thinks that a garbage disposal is
>> like a trash can. You wait until it is full, then empty it.
>>
>> I just about have her trained. But still, at any time, I can go
>> flip the switch and there will be something in there to grind up.
>>
>> She just doesn't get it.
>>
>> If you EMPTY the garbage disposal WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THERE,
>> it can't stink. It's gone on its way down the pipe.
>>
> I'm embarrassed to be a woman if that is what your wife really thinks
> and does. Good grief.
> If I just put stuff in there, it wouldn't take long for the sink to
> back up when I was running water to do anything else. Does she not
> use the sink for anything else between running the disposal....? She
> doesn't notice the problem here..?

I'm not sure what being a woman has to do with simply being stupid but she
sure sounds stupid to me! I'd be embarrassed to be married to anyone who
didn't know you run the disposal as soon as you put food into it. It is not
a trash can but I guess she doesn't take the trash out, either

Most suggestions offered here are good ones. Citrus peels, baking soda, and
of course running water *and* running the garbage disposal when you put
something down it!

Jill

Matt wrote:
> A few years back, we replaced our 1969 garbage disposer.
>
> The new one requires scrubbing or other work to keep it from stinking up
> the house. The old one didn't require any of that.
>
> Does anybody know a current model garbage disposer that doesn't require
> cleaning?
<shrug>

I have an insinkerator and it doesn't stink. I suspect it's your
plumbing and not the GD.

-L.

maxine in ri said...

>
> [Rummage, rummage rummage] Ah, here it is.
>
> http://repair2000.com/bounce.html
>
> maxine in ri


maxine,

LOL! You just made the internet seem so... tangible!

How refreshing!

Thanks,

Andy

In article >,
Matt > wrote:

> A few years back, we replaced our 1969 garbage disposer.
>
> The new one requires scrubbing or other work to keep it from stinking up
> the house. The old one didn't require any of that.
>
> Does anybody know a current model garbage disposer that doesn't require
> cleaning?

Yeah.

A bucket in the freezer.
Put all food waste into it and take it right out to the dumpster when it
gets full. I use a large ziplock bag to line it.

No muss, no fuss, no smell.

IMHO Insinkerators are one of the dumbest ideas in the world.

Barring that, run some vinegar down it now and then, or some lemon peels.
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In article >, Matt > wrote:

>Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that the one replaced was from
>1969. It could have been replaced before ... The most recent swap (ca.
>2002) was without resort to a plumber or repiping. Not much to it---you
>need some plumbers putty if you don't have a stainless steel sink.

FYI -- you need plumber's putty even if you *do* have a stainless steel sink.

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"Goomba38" > wrote in message
...
> MaryL wrote:
>
>> The plumber I was quoting (or as close to it as I could remember) was
>> talking specifically about not using hot water with fatty foods. He
>> actually recommended a hot water "wash" for the drain lines occasionally.
>> I'm not sure how the different operations work, but I have done both ever
>> since he told me -- and, so far, no clogged or slow drains.
>>
> You don't need to do a special "hot water wash" with your pipes.. Every
> time you drain a pot of pasta you'll be doing it.

Yes, that actually is how I do it -- except that I do not eat "the white
stuff" like pasta or potatoes. However, I do use the water from the base of
my steamer when I steam veggies. I just meant that I make sure to do this
instead of wasting the hot water by letting it cool first.

MaryL

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
...
> MaryL wrote:
>
>> I was also told by a plumber not to use hot water when disposing of fatty
>> foods, but it had nothing to do with burning up a motor. I have
>> forgotten the precise reasoning, but it had to do with cold water being
>> more likely to keep fat in pieces that could more readily be washed down
>> the drain instead of gathering in one place to clog the drains. I know
>> that wasn't exactly the explanation, but he was referring specifically to
>> fats that would melt in hot water.
>>
>
> One shouldn't pour fat down the drain in the first place though. Save a
> can or old jar for those purposes and toss 'em into the trash.

Granted. I would never simply pour fat down the drain. However, there are
fatty *products* that do end up going down the disposer (and drains) --
residue on plates, food that contains grease, etc.

I keep a tin can in my freezer, and any cat that can be poured off (such as
bacon grease) goes in there and eventually into the trash for garbage
pickup.

MaryL

Oh pshaw, on Mon 04 Dec 2006 01:53:48a, Goomba38 meant to say...

> Jocelyn De Contents wrote:
>
>> I always was told never to run hot water in the disposal as it can
>> overheat the motor. I do place ice cubes in mine to "clean" and
>> "sharpen" the mechanism. But I use cold water for the process.
>>
> LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Since when does the hot
> water come in contact with the motor??

Well, of course, the hot water does not come in contact with the motor.
However, disposers are meant to run short cycles, and those with large motors
generate considerable internal heat. Using cold water helps to keep the
motor cool, while hot water can easily cause it to overload and cut-out.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
(Marshall McLuhan)

In article >,
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:

> and any cat that can be poured off

You pour your cats into a can in the freezer?

;-)

Cute typo, couldn't resist...
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Oh pshaw, on Mon 04 Dec 2006 09:05:55a, Goomba38 meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> Well, of course, the hot water does not come in contact with the motor.
>> However, disposers are meant to run short cycles, and those with large
>> motors generate considerable internal heat. Using cold water helps to
>> keep the motor cool, while hot water can easily cause it to overload
>> and cut-out.
>>
> But who on earth is running a disposal so long that it has time to
> overheat? In fact, my dishwasher discharges into the pipes above my
> disposal. If there is anything in there, I can hear it and often run the
> disposal in a short spurt to clear the drain.

They can overheat quickly under the wrong conditions. I also run mine when
the dishwasher is draining into it and have not had a problem. I have had
it cut-off when using hot water and hot a larger load to grind. I'm sure
it depends on the individual disposer as well.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
(Marshall McLuhan)

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
...
> Jocelyn De Contents wrote:
>
>> I always was told never to run hot water in the disposal as it can
>> overheat the motor. I do place ice cubes in mine to "clean" and
>> "sharpen" the mechanism. But I use cold water for the process.
>>
> LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Since when does the hot
> water come in contact with the motor??

I dunno, but I have had the red switch kick out when I ran hot water in
MINE.

I guess the disposal is as dumb as me, huh?

Steve

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
...
> Steve B wrote:
>> If your wife is like mine, she thinks that a garbage disposal is like a
>> trash can. You wait until it is full, then empty it.
>>
>> I just about have her trained. But still, at any time, I can go flip the
>> switch and there will be something in there to grind up.
>>
>> She just doesn't get it.
>>
>> If you EMPTY the garbage disposal WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THERE, it
>> can't stink. It's gone on its way down the pipe.
>>
> I'm embarrassed to be a woman if that is what your wife really thinks and
> does. Good grief.
> If I just put stuff in there, it wouldn't take long for the sink to back
> up when I was running water to do anything else. Does she not use the sink
> for anything else between running the disposal....? She doesn't notice the
> problem here..?

My wife is fastidious, and even obsessive compulsive disorder on some
things. But I could put a dead skunk in the trash compactor, compact it,
and leave it there, and I doubt she'd notice it. Well, maybe she's not that
bad, but there have been MANY times when I say, "Do you smell something
bad?", and she says, "Not really." I don't know if "Not really" means yes,
I smell it, but it isn't that bad, or I don't smell anything.

Now, I just automatically turn on the water and hit the switch whenever I'm
close to it.

Steve

PS: She also thinks that the compactor MUST BE FULL in order to empty. I
am working on that by putting chicken skins and salmon skins in there.

hehehe

Steve

Steve B wrote:

>> LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Since when does the hot
>> water come in contact with the motor??
>
> I dunno, but I have had the red switch kick out when I ran hot water in
> MINE.
>
> I guess the disposal is as dumb as me, huh?
>
> Steve

What "red switch"? I've never had any problems from a garbage disposal
or the mysterious "red switch" so I must be doing something right.

"Omelet" > wrote

> IMHO Insinkerators are one of the dumbest ideas in the world.

Second only to keeping your garbage in a ziplock bag in the freezer
............................

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> Well, of course, the hot water does not come in contact with the motor.
> However, disposers are meant to run short cycles, and those with large motors
> generate considerable internal heat. Using cold water helps to keep the
> motor cool, while hot water can easily cause it to overload and cut-out.
>
But who on earth is running a disposal so long that it has time to
overheat? In fact, my dishwasher discharges into the pipes above my
disposal. If there is anything in there, I can hear it and often run the
disposal in a short spurt to clear the drain.

"Goomba38" > wrote

> Steve B wrote:
>
>>> LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Since when does the hot
>>> water come in contact with the motor??
>>
>> I dunno, but I have had the red switch kick out when I ran hot water in
>> MINE.
>>
>> I guess the disposal is as dumb as me, huh?

> What "red switch"? I've never had any problems from a garbage disposal or
> the mysterious "red switch" so I must be doing something right.

I remember Regis having some kind of garbage disposal red switch
problem. He didn't know it was there, either. I have no idea if mine
has one.

nancy

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
> Steve B wrote:
>
>>> LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Since when does the hot
>>> water come in contact with the motor??
>>
>> I dunno, but I have had the red switch kick out when I ran hot water in
>> MINE.
>>
>> I guess the disposal is as dumb as me, huh?
>>
>> Steve
>
> What "red switch"? I've never had any problems from a garbage disposal or
> the mysterious "red switch" so I must be doing something right.

If you RTFM, or go look under your disposal, there is a red button that
kicks out when the unit is too hot, or it is jammed. There is also a hex
shaped indentation in the middle that allows you to put a wrench into for
the purposes of turning the blades to help unjam it.

JUST IN CASE YOU DO EVER IN YOUR LIFE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR GARBAGE
DISPOSAL, these two factoids will be very helpful.

I want your life. No problems.

Steve

Zilbandy wrote:

>
> Any electric motor used in a device like that will not overheat just
> because it is run for a minute or less, no matter how hot the water
> is.

I trust what my plumber said, thanks.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Goomba38" > wrote
>
>> Steve B wrote:
>>
>>>> LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Since when does the
>>>> hot water come in contact with the motor??
>>>
>>> I dunno, but I have had the red switch kick out when I ran hot water in
>>> MINE.
>>>
>>> I guess the disposal is as dumb as me, huh?
>
>> What "red switch"? I've never had any problems from a garbage disposal or
>> the mysterious "red switch" so I must be doing something right.
>
> I remember Regis having some kind of garbage disposal red switch
> problem. He didn't know it was there, either. I have no idea if mine
> has one.
>
> nancy
>

They all have one, Nancy. Get under there and look, or just feel on the
bottom of the unit. It's usually right around the downward facing edge.
Knowing where it is, and where the wrench goes to help clear jams could save
you some $$ on a service call where the man pushes the button, twists the
wrench in the fitting, gets your disposal running again, and hands you a
bill for $60.

Don't know where your wrench is? Didn't save it when you got the unit
because you didn't know what it was for? Get another. They're cheap and
very handy.

Steve

Steve

"Steve B" > wrote

> I guess the disposal is as dumb as me, huh?
>

No, that can't be it.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
>
>> and any cat that can be poured off
>
> You pour your cats into a can in the freezer?
>

I have a cat who squirts up onto the bed when my husband chases
her up there. Kind of fast and very low to the ground, as she is being
submissive.

This same cat comes up beside me for petting when I am in bed, and
wants to be level with the top of the bed. If I pull her under the covers
or into my arms she "oozes" forward. That is the only way to put it. I
can't see anything moving, but there is forward momentum in each
of her seven pounds. It's hilarious. She's the little gray tabby in the
pictures. (Gracie.)

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/cyberpurrs/albums

"Steve B" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> I remember Regis having some kind of garbage disposal red switch
>> problem. He didn't know it was there, either. I have no idea if mine
>> has one.

> They all have one, Nancy. Get under there and look, or just feel on the
> bottom of the unit.

You really can't imagine how sorry I am I looked under there. I heard
that modifications were needed to put the monster in. I had no idea how
bad it looked. Stuck my camera back there ... they had to cut away a
bunch of the housing. Not looking any more.

nancy

In article >,
"Steve B" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote
>
> > IMHO Insinkerators are one of the dumbest ideas in the world.
>
> Second only to keeping your garbage in a ziplock bag in the freezer
> ...........................

It's actually in a covered container on the back of the sink. ;-)
I only suggested the freezer as I know two people that do that.

I empty mine every morning out of habit... I refuse to put any food
based garbage in my regular trash can.

Meat wrappers go out to the dumpster immediately on opening.
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In article >,
"cybercat" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
> >
> >> and any cat that can be poured off
> >
> > You pour your cats into a can in the freezer?
> >
>
> I have a cat who squirts up onto the bed when my husband chases
> her up there. Kind of fast and very low to the ground, as she is being
> submissive.
>
> This same cat comes up beside me for petting when I am in bed, and
> wants to be level with the top of the bed. If I pull her under the covers
> or into my arms she "oozes" forward. That is the only way to put it. I
> can't see anything moving, but there is forward momentum in each
> of her seven pounds. It's hilarious. She's the little gray tabby in the
> pictures. (Gracie.)
>
> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/cyberpurrs/albums

<lol> Love the "Love fest" series! I have cats that do that.

Cats have an interesting range of motion. Ever notice that they don't
actually jump up on top of things?

They levitate!
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Steve B" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote
>>
>> > IMHO Insinkerators are one of the dumbest ideas in the world.
>>
>> Second only to keeping your garbage in a ziplock bag in the freezer
>> ...........................
>
> It's actually in a covered container on the back of the sink. ;-)
> I only suggested the freezer as I know two people that do that.
>
> I empty mine every morning out of habit... I refuse to put any food
> based garbage in my regular trash can.
>
> Meat wrappers go out to the dumpster immediately on opening.
> --
> Peace, Om

I know a man who once HAD to wrap chicken bones in foil, then seal them
inside a ziplock bag, then wrap that in newspaper, then seal the newspaper
with gray Duct Tape. Then, and only then, would he put the package in his
trash can. This all had to be done within one hour of finishing the meal.

Last I heard, he was having a relaxing time just sitting, making baskets,
doing abstract paintings, and having an occasional session of electric shock
therapy.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
> >
> >> Steve B wrote:
> >>
> >>>> LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Since when does the
> >>>> hot water come in contact with the motor??
> >>>
> >>> I dunno, but I have had the red switch kick out when I ran hot water in
> >>> MINE.
> >>>
> >>> I guess the disposal is as dumb as me, huh?
> >
> >> What "red switch"? I've never had any problems from a garbage disposal or
> >> the mysterious "red switch" so I must be doing something right.
> >
> > I remember Regis having some kind of garbage disposal red switch
> > problem. He didn't know it was there, either. I have no idea if mine
> > has one.
> >
> > nancy
> >
>
> They all have one, Nancy. Get under there and look, or just feel on the
> bottom of the unit. It's usually right around the downward facing edge.
> Knowing where it is, and where the wrench goes to help clear jams could save
> you some $$ on a service call where the man pushes the button, twists the
> wrench in the fitting, gets your disposal running again, and hands you a
> bill for $60.
>
> Don't know where your wrench is? Didn't save it when you got the unit
> because you didn't know what it was for? Get another. They're cheap and
> very handy.
>
That "red" button is called the reset switch. I have a new disposal,
so to date, haven't needed to poke it.

The hex wrench or Allen wrench is the little tool with the bent end
that goes underneath in the center of the unit to unjam the monster.
You can find hex wrench sets anywhere, and they are cheap. I have
about 3 different Craftsmen sets lying around.


Now I want one of the new In-Sink-Erators that will do artichoke chokes
and pineapple tops. Grrrrrrrr.

N.

(As to how long to run the water - I imagine the garbage on its long
path from my sink down to the basement, below the floor, and then
running out to the sewer line. That's how long I let the water run.
My disposal doesn't have an odor; it is nearly always clean enough for
me to stick my hand in there (turned off, of course) and find the odd
bit of plastic bread bag closer or whatever, without any problem. I
noticed at a previous place of employment, though, that the constant
dumping of coffee made the rubber gasket thingie really, really nasty
on the underside. I imagine that comes from not enough water running
through it.)

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
>
>> and any cat that can be poured off
>
> You pour your cats into a can in the freezer?
>
> ;-)
>
> Cute typo, couldn't resist...
> --
>

Ooops! I have 2 cat (Holly and Duffy), and I don't think either of them
would appreciate swapping their place on my bed for a little can in the
freezer!

You just gave me an opening, though -- I can't resist talking about them or
showing their pictures at every opportunity. So, I'm posting links to some
of their photos under my sig. I'm sort of like the granny who carries a
fold-out spread of grandchildren except that mine are furbabies and are
posted to the Internet. Be forewarned -- I have *lots* of pictures of them.

MaryL

Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'<
Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf
Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
Recent pics: http://tinyurl.com/clal7

In article >,
"Steve B" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "Steve B" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" > wrote
> >>
> >> > IMHO Insinkerators are one of the dumbest ideas in the world.
> >>
> >> Second only to keeping your garbage in a ziplock bag in the freezer
> >> ...........................
> >
> > It's actually in a covered container on the back of the sink. ;-)
> > I only suggested the freezer as I know two people that do that.
> >
> > I empty mine every morning out of habit... I refuse to put any food
> > based garbage in my regular trash can.
> >
> > Meat wrappers go out to the dumpster immediately on opening.
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> I know a man who once HAD to wrap chicken bones in foil, then seal them
> inside a ziplock bag, then wrap that in newspaper, then seal the newspaper
> with gray Duct Tape. Then, and only then, would he put the package in his
> trash can. This all had to be done within one hour of finishing the meal.
>
> Last I heard, he was having a relaxing time just sitting, making baskets,
> doing abstract paintings, and having an occasional session of electric shock
> therapy.
>
> Steve

I have pets that can get into the trash.
There are more reasons to not put food based waste in the regular
trashcan other than having OCD...
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In article >,
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
> >
> >> and any cat that can be poured off
> >
> > You pour your cats into a can in the freezer?
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Cute typo, couldn't resist...
> > --
> >
>
> Ooops! I have 2 cat (Holly and Duffy), and I don't think either of them
> would appreciate swapping their place on my bed for a little can in the
> freezer!
>
> You just gave me an opening, though -- I can't resist talking about them or
> showing their pictures at every opportunity. So, I'm posting links to some
> of their photos under my sig. I'm sort of like the granny who carries a
> fold-out spread of grandchildren except that mine are furbabies and are
> posted to the Internet. Be forewarned -- I have *lots* of pictures of them.
>
> MaryL
>
> Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'<
> Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf

That is one gorgeous cat! Sort of a gray tuxedo. :-)

> Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o

That face has serious personality!

> Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
> Recent pics: http://tinyurl.com/clal7

Charming... ;-D
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Oh pshaw, on Mon 04 Dec 2006 02:45:36p, MaryL meant to say...

>
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
>> >>
>>> Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'<
>>> Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf
>>
>> That is one gorgeous cat! Sort of a gray tuxedo. :-)
>>
>>> Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
>>
>> That face has serious personality!
>>
>>> Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
>>> Recent pics: http://tinyurl.com/clal7
>>
>> Charming... ;-D
>> --
>> Peace, Om
>>
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>>
>
> Thanks. Duffy is blind, and he is remarkable -- he can do almost
> anything that any other cat can do. He is a total charmer! And you are
> right about Holly. She is Miss Personality, and she rules the roost.
>
> MaryL

Mary, they are both adorable! Duffy is a gorgious cat, and Holly looks
like a sassy little girl!



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In article >, Omelet > wrote:

>I have pets that can get into the trash.
>There are more reasons to not put food based waste in the regular
>trashcan other than having OCD...

My solution is, I think, far more common, and definitely much less trouble:
Keep the kitchen wastebasket in the cabinet under the sink where the dogs
can't get at it. When the wastebasket gets full, empty it into the garbage can
in the garage -- where the dogs can't get at it. Once a week, set the garbage
cans out at the street for pickup -- where the dogs can't get at it.

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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> >>
>> Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'<
>> Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf
>
> That is one gorgeous cat! Sort of a gray tuxedo. :-)
>
>> Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
>
> That face has serious personality!
>
>> Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
>> Recent pics: http://tinyurl.com/clal7
>
> Charming... ;-D
> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove _ to validate e-mails.
>
>

Thanks. Duffy is blind, and he is remarkable -- he can do almost anything
that any other cat can do. He is a total charmer! And you are right about
Holly. She is Miss Personality, and she rules the roost.

MaryL

In article >,
(Doug Miller) wrote:

> In article >, Omelet
> > wrote:
>
> >I have pets that can get into the trash.
> >There are more reasons to not put food based waste in the regular
> >trashcan other than having OCD...
>
> My solution is, I think, far more common, and definitely much less trouble:
> Keep the kitchen wastebasket in the cabinet under the sink where the dogs
> can't get at it.

That's fine if you have the space to do that. ;-) I don't.
I just make sure that nothing desirable to the pets goes into the trash.
It's actually quite simple, and it keeps me from having a smelly trash
can.

> When the wastebasket gets full, empty it into the garbage
> can
> in the garage -- where the dogs can't get at it. Once a week, set the garbage
> cans out at the street for pickup -- where the dogs can't get at it.

Our city does the large dumpster thing. They have those big arms that
come out of the side of the trash truck to pick up the dumpsters that
the city distributes to each household.

Those trash cans are _way_ too large for dogs to be a problem. ;-)

But, thanks anyhoo.
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In article >,
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > >>
> >> Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'<
> >> Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf
> >
> > That is one gorgeous cat! Sort of a gray tuxedo. :-)
> >
> >> Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o
> >
> > That face has serious personality!
> >
> >> Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e
> >> Recent pics: http://tinyurl.com/clal7
> >
> > Charming... ;-D
> > --
> > Peace, Om
> >
> > Remove _ to validate e-mails.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks. Duffy is blind, and he is remarkable -- he can do almost anything
> that any other cat can do. He is a total charmer!

Really? That's amazing! I could not tell!

I have one special needs kitty, Taz. I rescued him out of the middle of
the road after I saw him get hit by a car when he was about 12 weeks
old. He has some permanent brain damage, but does surprisingly well.
He's just not very bright, and has a circling behavior if he gets
stressed... but Samantha has "adopted" him as her buddy and they play
and groom each other.

> And you are right about
> Holly. She is Miss Personality, and she rules the roost.
>
> MaryL

Cats are cool. :-)
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