Oh pshaw, on Mon 04 Dec 2006 09:34:44p, Terry Pulliam Burd meant to say...

> On 4 Dec 2006 20:22:55 -0800, "Albert" >
> rummaged among random neurons and opined:
>
>>Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
>>traditional dessert in England was?
>>
>>Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>
> Give a shot at a trifle:
>
> @@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format
>
> Trifle
>
> desserts
>
> pound cake
> berries
> jam; same as berries
> American golden custard
> whipped cream
> sherry
>
> Cut cake to fit trifle bowl and soak with sherry (about 1/2 cup). Let
> sit overnight. Cook custard according to directions and chill. Shortly
> before serving, spread jam on cake, cover with jam, spread custard
> over jam and top with whipped cream. Top with berries.
>
> Contributor: Anne Hughes
>
> Yield: 12 servings

I love trifle, but I prefer using sponge cake over pound cake. It seems
like the sponge cake more readily takes up some of the moisture, but the
pound cake simply turns mushy. Maybe mine has more liquid, as I douse the
cake pieces lightly with brandy or rum.

--
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will be cancelled.

Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
traditional dessert in England was?

Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?

Thanks

Plum Pudding, doused with brandy and lit at the table, served with
brandy butter.

More "modern" of a Brit Christmas dessert is a fancily decorated round
cake - more like a fruit/nut type, not chocolate or yellow

Kris

Albert wrote:
> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> traditional dessert in England was?
>
> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>
> Thanks

On 4 Dec 2006 20:22:55 -0800, "Albert" >
rummaged among random neurons and opined:

>Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
>traditional dessert in England was?
>
>Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?

Give a shot at a trifle:

@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

Trifle

desserts

pound cake
berries
jam; same as berries
American golden custard
whipped cream
sherry

Cut cake to fit trifle bowl and soak with sherry (about 1/2 cup). Let
sit overnight. Cook custard according to directions and chill. Shortly
before serving, spread jam on cake, cover with jam, spread custard
over jam and top with whipped cream. Top with berries.

Contributor: Anne Hughes

Yield: 12 servings

Terry Pulliam Burd

"Most vigitaryans I iver see looked enough like their food to be
classed as cannybals."

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Albert wrote:
> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> traditional dessert in England was?
>
> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?

Whatever you do don't watch FoodTV.....I lost it after some dumb bitch
asked if Yorkshire Pudding was "dessert or what are we supposed to do
with this?".

Albert wrote:
> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> traditional dessert in England was?
>
> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>
Traditional English Christmas pudding is a form of plum pudding. More
about it he
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_pudding
As is always the case with anything from wikipedia, verify it from
other sources if you're at all serious about your research. -aem

"Albert" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> traditional dessert in England was?
>
> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?


Surely there would have to be lots of traditional desserts. Why would a
whole country only have *one* dessert that was traditional?



Jen

"Albert" > wrote in
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> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> traditional dessert in England was?
>
> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>


Nope. It's called 'Spotted Dick'.

First, get a permanent marker (preferably a red one)......

then..............


:-)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

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Albert wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> traditional dessert in England was?
>
> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?

My father's parents were English. The traditional Christmas
dessert was carrot pudding with caramel sauce, and there were
always plenty of mince meat tarts and shortbread cookies.

Jen > wrote:

>"Albert" > wrote in message

>> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?

>Surely there would have to be lots of traditional desserts. Why would a
>whole country only have *one* dessert that was traditional?

Indeed.

However: Stilton and Port.

S.

Albert > wrote:

> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> traditional dessert in England was?
>
> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?

It's Christmas pudding, served doused in brandy and lit, with a holly
sprig in the top, and accompanied by your choice of custard, double
cream and/or brandy butter. Sometimes the hostess will provide a gateau
as well for those that really don't like Xmas pud. Traditionally the
pudding was made six months in advance, with all members of the family
having a stir of the mixture for luck, and some silver sixpences or
charms included in the mixture for the children, and allowed to mature,
but people often just get one in the supemarket now (after reading a few
reviews about which is this year's most tasty brand to buy!) (Sixpences
are no longer included)

Here's a typical recipe (watch the line wrap):
<http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...pudding,1234,R
C.html>

HTH

Deb (in Surrey, England)
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He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

Hello, Jen!
You wrote on Tue, 05 Dec 2006 05:52:35 GMT:


J> "Albert" > wrote in message
J> ups.com...
??>> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering
??>> what the traditional dessert in England was?
??>>
??>> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?

J> Surely there would have to be lots of traditional desserts.
J> Why would a whole country only have *one* dessert that was
J> traditional?

I don't know, didn't Voltaire say that the English had a hundred
religions and one sauce?

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

LOL! I forgot that quote until now. Thanks for the chuckle...

Kris


James Silverton wrote:
> Hello, Jen!
> You wrote on Tue, 05 Dec 2006 05:52:35 GMT:
>
>
> J> "Albert" > wrote in message
> J> ups.com...
> ??>> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering
> ??>> what the traditional dessert in England was?
> ??>>
> ??>> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>
> J> Surely there would have to be lots of traditional desserts.
> J> Why would a whole country only have *one* dessert that was
> J> traditional?
>
> I don't know, didn't Voltaire say that the English had a hundred
> religions and one sauce?
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:08:44 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, Dave Smith wrote:

>
>
>Albert wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
>> traditional dessert in England was?
>>
>> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>
>My father's parents were English. The traditional Christmas
>dessert was carrot pudding with caramel sauce, and there were
>always plenty of mince meat tarts and shortbread cookies.

Never heard of it. Trying to find a recipe takes me to US sites.

However, if you go to
http://thefoody.com/sitemap.html
and wait for it to load, you will find a carrot pudding there along with a
lot of other British puddings. But the carrot pudding there is served with
custard.
Ah, here it is again, poor folks Victorian pudding:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A823286

Better yet:
According to the 1881 Household Cyclopedia, Carrot pudding can be made in
the following way.

Take 1/4 peck of carrots, boil and mash them well; then add 1/2 pound
flour, 1/2 pound currants, 1/2 pound raisins, 1/2 pound suet chopped fine,
1/2 cup of sugar, 2 tablespoonful of cinnamon, 1 tea" spoonful of
allspice. Boil four hours, and serve hot with sauce flavored with Madeira
wine.

See also:

* Wikipedia Cookbook

So, it looks as though it is an old British or English dessert no longer
in fashion. I like the idea of Madeira wine sauce!

In fact it is Mrs. Beeton's. So, it is a traditional 19th and early 20th
century dessert, fascinating. I'd prefer Eton Mess or Syllabub. Or Trifle,
which is very traditional.

I left out another very traditional dessert, bread and butter pudding.
Used to get it near at a diner near my parents' when they lived in
Alexandria Virginia. But very traditionally English.

As others have said, there is no traditional pudding. Christmas pudding
is traditional at Christmas, but not at other times.

Sponge pudding is typical. Eton Mess is delicious. Sticky toffee pudding
is traditional in some areas. Atholl Brose.
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Jen wrote:
> "Albert" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> > traditional dessert in England was?
> >
> > Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>
>
> Surely there would have to be lots of traditional desserts. Why would a
> whole country only have *one* dessert that was traditional?
>
>
>
> Jen

Not only that, but my understanding (might be wrong) that "pudding" was
used as sort of an all-purpose term meaning "dessert," in general.

N.

(My Anglophile grandmama always made plum pudding, although no liquor
ever touched her lips, baked or otherwise.)

Hello, Nancy2!
You wrote on 5 Dec 2006 12:28:32 -0800:


N> Jen wrote:
??>> "Albert" > wrote in message
??>>
ups.com...
??>>> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering
??>>> what the traditional dessert in England was?
??>>>
??>>> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
??>>
??>> Surely there would have to be lots of traditional
??>> desserts. Why would a whole country only have *one*
??>> dessert that was traditional?
??>>
??>> Jen

N> Not only that, but my understanding (might be wrong) that
N> "pudding" was used as sort of an all-purpose term meaning
N> "dessert," in general.

To the best of my knowledge, based on being brought up in the
UK, reading books by British authors and watching PBS
television, you are quite correct. To quote, "Let's have
ice-cream for pudding".

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

"Albert" > schreef in bericht
ups.com...
> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
> traditional dessert in England was?
>
> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>
> Thanks
>
May I recommend this website? Info and reliable recipes from a famous public
tv-station:

www.bbc.co.uk/food

Jke wrote:
> "Albert" > schreef in bericht
> ups.com...
>> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
>> traditional dessert in England was?
>>
>> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
> May I recommend this website? Info and reliable recipes from a famous public
> tv-station:
>
> www.bbc.co.uk/food
>
>

I was directed to this website from someone from Scotland that I talked
to in another NG...It's for Christmas pudding...It looks very yummy!

http://www.britainexpress.com/articl...as-pudding.htm

> Christmas Pudding
> Cook it British!
>
> Brian Turner's Favourite British Recipes
>
> Ingredients
> l lb of each: raisins, currants, golden raisins, breadcrumbs, brown sugar
> 8oz Suet
> 4oz each: Mixed peel, glace cherries chopped, almonds chopped
> 1 each: Lemon - grate rind, orange - grate rind, carrot - grated, apple - grated
> 1 tbs Flour
> 1 tsp mixed spice
> Pinch salt
> 6-8 Eggs
> 10oz stout (bottle) or dark beer (Guiness is good)
> OR 5 ozs each brandy & milk.
>
>
> Preparation
> Mix dry ingredients first then mix with lightly beaten eggs & liquid. Grease the bottom of a bowl large enough to hold pudding and press mixture into it. Place wax paper over the top and then foil over that, crimping it around the edges to keep firm. Either cook for 2 hours in pressure cooker with about 2 inches water or put in pan with water on stove for 4 hours. Keep checking water in pan to prevent burning. Store well wrapped for as long as possible for better flavor. Some people make them one year to eat the next. Donated by sister Margaret Hawksley Serve with hot custard, cream, or brandy sauce.
>
> Why steam for so long? Christmas puddings are quite dense because of all the fruit, nuts, etc. they contain. Steaming is the best method of cooking because it allows a slow cooking which ensures a moist and palatable result (cakes being less dense can cook for less time and still remain moist, so baking is the best method). If you used a faster cooking method for a Christmas pudding you would get a crusty pudding. A pudding steamed for 2 hours, rather than 4, would probably still have some uncooked mixture in the center. So, while the cooking time obviously depends on the size of the pudding. (This is when it is cooked on the stove - not the pressure cooker)
>




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"Ravenlynne" > schreef in bericht
...
> Jke wrote:
>> "Albert" > schreef in bericht
>> ups.com...
>>> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
>>> traditional dessert in England was?
>>>
>>> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>> May I recommend this website? Info and reliable recipes from a famous
>> public tv-station:
>>
>> www.bbc.co.uk/food
>
> I was directed to this website from someone from Scotland that I talked to
> in another NG...It's for Christmas pudding...It looks very yummy!
>
> http://www.britainexpress.com/articl...as-pudding.htm
>
>> Christmas Pudding
>> Cook it British!
>>
>> Brian Turner's Favourite British Recipes

It's funny: Brian Turner is a tv cook for the BBS.

It you're intersted in TV cooks, you might like this site, too:

http://www.uktvfood.co.uk/

On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:34:44 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>On 4 Dec 2006 20:22:55 -0800, "Albert" >
>rummaged among random neurons and opined:
>
>>Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
>>traditional dessert in England was?
>>
>>Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>
>Give a shot at a trifle:
>
>@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format
>
>Trifle
>
>desserts
>
> pound cake
> berries
> jam; same as berries
> American golden custard
> whipped cream
> sherry
>
>Cut cake to fit trifle bowl and soak with sherry (about 1/2 cup). Let
>sit overnight. Cook custard according to directions and chill. Shortly
>before serving, spread jam on cake, cover with jam, spread custard
>over jam and top with whipped cream. Top with berries.

that's not how you make a trifle! The ingredients are right but the
beauty of a trifle is that it all sits in the bowl together and melds
into a trifle-flavoured mush. You're meant to use a Swiss Roll (jam
roll) for the base. Cut it into slices and lay it in a bowl and
sprinkle port or sweet sherry on it... then put the fruit inside the
layer of cake and pour HOT custard over it all.

Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:34:44 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> > wrote:
>
>> On 4 Dec 2006 20:22:55 -0800, "Albert" >
>> rummaged among random neurons and opined:
>>
>>> Hi, I'm researching about Christmas and I was wondering what the
>>> traditional dessert in England was?
>>>
>>> Is it apple pie or plum pudding or what?
>> Give a shot at a trifle:
>>
>> @@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format
>>
>> Trifle
>>
>> desserts
>>
>> pound cake
>> berries
>> jam; same as berries
>> American golden custard
>> whipped cream
>> sherry
>>
>> Cut cake to fit trifle bowl and soak with sherry (about 1/2 cup). Let
>> sit overnight. Cook custard according to directions and chill. Shortly
>> before serving, spread jam on cake, cover with jam, spread custard
>> over jam and top with whipped cream. Top with berries.
>
> that's not how you make a trifle! The ingredients are right but the
> beauty of a trifle is that it all sits in the bowl together and melds
> into a trifle-flavoured mush. You're meant to use a Swiss Roll (jam
> roll) for the base. Cut it into slices and lay it in a bowl and
> sprinkle port or sweet sherry on it... then put the fruit inside the
> layer of cake and pour HOT custard over it all.

I made one with pannetone...cube it, drizzle with brandy, top with
fruit...top the fruit with custard cream, repeat until bowl is full and
let sit in fridge for 24 hours.

--
"I'm a follower of the Tao of Peter Parker." Nicodemus must have been a
DC comics fan, because he didn't get it. - The Dresden Files