yetanotherBob wrote:
> Sometimes insurance may be more likely to cover it if it's defined as
> a "medical" vs. "dental" problem; i.e., if you can get your regular
> MD to refer you to a DDS or DMD specifically for evaluation/treatment
> of TMJ, it may be more likely to be covered by one or both types of
> insurance.
>
> Bob

That's true, Bob. It's also sometimes conversely the case since medical
insurance may consider it a dental condition and dental insurance may
consider it a medical condition, hence sometimes neither will cover
treatment for TMJ. Gotta read the fine print in the policy or call the
insurance company to know for sure.

OB Food: Chuck Roast... browned it in a little Canola oil, stuck it in the
crock pot with 2 cups beef broth and a can of cheap beer, a couple of bay
leaves, pepper, dried thyme, Penzey's dehydrated garlic and onion and a
little salt.

Jill

> In article >,
> says...
>> Having worn a retainer for a number of years, yeah, you could sleep
>> with it in your mouth. After a few nights you wouldn't even notice
>> it. It's fitted using a mold taken of your upper and lower jaw.
>> I'd sure recommend that rather than what you describe especially
>> since, as you say, you have insurance. However, not all insurance
>> covers treatment or devices for TMJ so you need to read your policy
>> information or call your insurance carrier first.

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> > True dat. I'll snag a manual from HR and see.
> >
> > I agree that a fitted device should be more comfortable than one from
> > the sporting goods store...
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> I must have missed a reply in this thread - a sporting goods store???? LOL
>
> Jill

There are athletic teeth/mouth supports on the market. I see some of the
power lifters at the gym wear them to protect their teeth when they
clench their jaws during heavy lifting.

Without them, some of them tend to crack their teeth.

I'm not kidding.
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In article >,
yetanotherBob > wrote:

> Sometimes insurance may be more likely to cover it if it's defined as a
> "medical" vs. "dental" problem; i.e., if you can get your regular MD to
> refer you to a DDS or DMD specifically for evaluation/treatment of TMJ,
> it may be more likely to be covered by one or both types of insurance.
>
> Bob

A good reason to Discuss it with my regular doc first then.
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Omelet wrote:

> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?

You've already been given lots of advice about seeing your dentist. A
night guard definitely helps. I've had one for awhile now. Years ago I
had surgery to my jaws to realign them (bottom was bigger than the top).
One of the side affects was it made my TMJ worse. *sigh*

The regime I was given by my doctor - use moist heat or ice compresses
(you'll have to experiment with what works for you, for me it's heat).
Massage; if this is too painful, use ice first to numb the area. Aleve
- rather than ibuprofen, if you can tolerate it. Open your mouth wide
to stretch the tight muscles.

Good luck,
--Charlene

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In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >> news > >> > In article >,
> >> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Jeez...where's your resourcefulness, woman? Got a bar nearby? Walk in
> >> >> and
> >> >> start an altercation. You manage to do that here on a regular basis.
> >> >
> >> > Are you volunteering?
> >> >
> >> > Remember, I'm armed...
> >> >
> >> > Just kidding. ;-)
> >>
> >> We leave the guns at the door.
> >
> > <innocent look>
> >
> > Who said anything about guns?
> >
> > There is OC spray on my keychain........
>
> Pansy.

Oh?

Ever been hit in the face with liquid habanero?
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In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> OB Food: Chuck Roast... browned it in a little Canola oil, stuck it in the
> crock pot with 2 cups beef broth and a can of cheap beer, a couple of bay
> leaves, pepper, dried thyme, Penzey's dehydrated garlic and onion and a
> little salt.
>
> Jill

What brand of beer?
I tried that once with Dos Equis.

It did not work out well!
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >,
>> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >> > In article >,
>> >> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Jeez...where's your resourcefulness, woman? Got a bar nearby? Walk
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> start an altercation. You manage to do that here on a regular
>> >> >> basis.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are you volunteering?
>> >> >
>> >> > Remember, I'm armed...
>> >> >
>> >> > Just kidding. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> We leave the guns at the door.
>> >
>> > <innocent look>
>> >
>> > Who said anything about guns?
>> >
>> > There is OC spray on my keychain........
>>
>> Pansy.
>
> Oh?
>
> Ever been hit in the face with liquid habanero?
> --
> Peace, Om

I don't see you using anything but youse brain to whip people into shape
here (except me, of course, because I'm too powerful for you). Why have
pepper spray on your key chain? In case your car mouths off at you?

Oh pshaw, on Fri 08 Dec 2006 02:24:11p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
>> Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with beet.
>> Unbelievable results.
>
> Damn typo... Should have read "with beef"!!!

OR you could cook beets in coffee.

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In article >,
Charlene Charette > wrote:

> You've already been given lots of advice about seeing your dentist. A
> night guard definitely helps. I've had one for awhile now. Years ago I
> had surgery to my jaws to realign them (bottom was bigger than the top).
> One of the side affects was it made my TMJ worse. *sigh*

That sux. I'm so sorry. :-(

>
> The regime I was given by my doctor - use moist heat or ice compresses
> (you'll have to experiment with what works for you, for me it's heat).
> Massage; if this is too painful, use ice first to numb the area. Aleve
> - rather than ibuprofen, if you can tolerate it. Open your mouth wide
> to stretch the tight muscles.
>
> Good luck,
> --Charlene

Hm. Aleve never worked for me for any other pain... Does it have
specific uses? It never helped other joint pain from arthritis.

Tylenol does nothing for me either.

Did you get a fitted night guard or a generic one?
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Omelet said...

> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> OB Food: Chuck Roast... browned it in a little Canola oil, stuck it in
>> the crock pot with 2 cups beef broth and a can of cheap beer, a couple
>> of bay leaves, pepper, dried thyme, Penzey's dehydrated garlic and
>> onion and a little salt.
>>
>> Jill
>
> What brand of beer?
> I tried that once with Dos Equis.
>
> It did not work out well!


Dos Equis!!! XX crud.

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> >> Pansy.
> >
> > Oh?
> >
> > Ever been hit in the face with liquid habanero?
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> I don't see you using anything but youse brain to whip people into shape
> here (except me, of course, because I'm too powerful for you). Why have
> pepper spray on your key chain? In case your car mouths off at you?

It's only the _first_ line of defense. The backup only gets brought out
as a last resort.

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

I'll just let Ferocious the male Lab/Chow take care of ya. Betcha he'd
out-power you any day!

He still has testicles...
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In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Omelet said...
>
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >> OB Food: Chuck Roast... browned it in a little Canola oil, stuck it in
> >> the crock pot with 2 cups beef broth and a can of cheap beer, a couple
> >> of bay leaves, pepper, dried thyme, Penzey's dehydrated garlic and
> >> onion and a little salt.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > What brand of beer?
> > I tried that once with Dos Equis.
> >
> > It did not work out well!
>
>
> Dos Equis!!! XX crud.

Indeed...

I did not buy it myself, it was left over in the 'frige from someone
else that bought it.

Not being a beer drinker, I did not know any better. ;-)

Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with beet.
Unbelievable results.
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In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with beet.
> Unbelievable results.

Damn typo... Should have read "with beef"!!!
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Oh pshaw, on Fri 08 Dec 2006 03:17:32p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article >,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh pshaw, on Fri 08 Dec 2006 02:24:11p, Omelet meant to say...
>>
>> > In article >,
>> > Omelet > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with
>> >> beet. Unbelievable results.
>> >
>> > Damn typo... Should have read "with beef"!!!
>>
>> OR you could cook beets in coffee.
>
> 'cept I rarely cook beets....... ;-)
> And we were supposed to be talking about crockpot beefs? <G>

Oh well...

> Seriously, coffee makes a wonderful rich gravy and does NOT taste like
> coffee when mixed with meat juices. It just adds a unique richness.

Yes, it does indeed. I hae even used powdered espresso on occasion to add
some depth to a gravy.

Coffee also makes a damn fine red eye gravy for country ham.

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Omelet said...
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> OB Food: Chuck Roast... browned it in a little Canola oil, stuck it in
>>>> the crock pot with 2 cups beef broth and a can of cheap beer, a couple
>>>> of bay leaves, pepper, dried thyme, Penzey's dehydrated garlic and
>>>> onion and a little salt.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> What brand of beer?
>>> I tried that once with Dos Equis.
>>>
>>> It did not work out well!
>>
>> Dos Equis!!! XX crud.
>
> Indeed...
>
> I did not buy it myself, it was left over in the 'frige from someone
> else that bought it.
>
> Not being a beer drinker, I did not know any better. ;-)
>
> Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with beet.
> Unbelievable results.

I don't mind the amber Dos Equis.

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In article >,
Ravenlynne > wrote:

> >> Dos Equis!!! XX crud.
> >
> > Indeed...
> >
> > I did not buy it myself, it was left over in the 'frige from someone
> > else that bought it.
> >
> > Not being a beer drinker, I did not know any better. ;-)
> >
> > Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with beet.
> > Unbelievable results.
>
> I don't mind the amber Dos Equis.

Since I don't drink beer, I'd not know the difference.
Just being honest. ;-)

So what is the group census on the best beer to use for cooking?
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In article >,
says...
>
> What brand of beer?
> I tried that once with Dos Equis.
>
> It did not work out well!
>
Problem was, you were supposed to use *beer*, *not* Dos Equis.

Dos Equis, I've heard, was originally call "Dos Equines", a not-so-
subtle Spanglish reference to the actual source of the liquid in the
bottle. That didn't sell at all, so the bottler simply removed two
letters from the name, and sales picked up right away. They had a bunch
of labels to use up, so they simply blacked out the offending "ne" until
the original batch of labels was gone. The so-called BONE (Blacked-Out
NE) bottles are now valuable specimens, from what I've heard.

Bob

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> --

The only time I had this problem was during one of the most stressful times
in my life, when I was in school 30+ hours and working full time AND pulling
straight As.

End of insane stress, end of problem.

Take care of yourself in all the little ways. You take care of your Dad,
after
all! Take care of the one who takes care. Fun. Orgasms. Laughter. Escape.
Beauty. Love. Spending time with Fat fuzzy funny cats. That sort of thing.

If you are already doing that and still grinding your teeth etc. then I have
no
answers.

In article >,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh pshaw, on Fri 08 Dec 2006 02:24:11p, Omelet meant to say...
>
> > In article >,
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >> Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with beet.
> >> Unbelievable results.
> >
> > Damn typo... Should have read "with beef"!!!
>
> OR you could cook beets in coffee.

'cept I rarely cook beets....... ;-)
And we were supposed to be talking about crockpot beefs? <G>

Seriously, coffee makes a wonderful rich gravy and does NOT taste like
coffee when mixed with meat juices. It just adds a unique richness.
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> >> Pansy.
>> >
>> > Oh?
>> >
>> > Ever been hit in the face with liquid habanero?
>> > --
>> > Peace, Om
>>
>> I don't see you using anything but youse brain to whip people into shape
>> here (except me, of course, because I'm too powerful for you). Why have
>> pepper spray on your key chain? In case your car mouths off at you?
>
> It's only the _first_ line of defense. The backup only gets brought out
> as a last resort.
>
> I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
>
> I'll just let Ferocious the male Lab/Chow take care of ya. Betcha he'd
> out-power you any day!
>
> He still has testicles...
> --
> Peace, Om

You have a dog? Can I shoot it, please?

In article >,
yetanotherBob > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > What brand of beer?
> > I tried that once with Dos Equis.
> >
> > It did not work out well!
> >
> Problem was, you were supposed to use *beer*, *not* Dos Equis.

<lol> No argument there... I did not buy it. I was just trying to use up
leftovers.

>
> Dos Equis, I've heard, was originally call "Dos Equines", a not-so-
> subtle Spanglish reference to the actual source of the liquid in the
> bottle.

<snicker> Indeed.

> That didn't sell at all, so the bottler simply removed two
> letters from the name, and sales picked up right away. They had a bunch
> of labels to use up, so they simply blacked out the offending "ne" until
> the original batch of labels was gone. The so-called BONE (Blacked-Out
> NE) bottles are now valuable specimens, from what I've heard.
>
> Bob

I still cannot understand how _anyone_ can drink that stuff!
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"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >
> >> >> Pansy.
> >> >
> >> > Oh?
> >> >
> >> > Ever been hit in the face with liquid habanero?
> >> > --
> >> > Peace, Om
> >>
> >> I don't see you using anything but youse brain to whip people into shape
> >> here (except me, of course, because I'm too powerful for you). Why have
> >> pepper spray on your key chain? In case your car mouths off at you?
> >
> > It's only the _first_ line of defense. The backup only gets brought out
> > as a last resort.
> >
> > I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
> >
> > I'll just let Ferocious the male Lab/Chow take care of ya. Betcha he'd
> > out-power you any day!
> >
> > He still has testicles...
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> You have a dog? Can I shoot it, please?

Pet dogs are family members... and I will defend them as such.
I know you are a dog hater but I'm not. Please don't go there again.
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In article >,
"cybercat" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
> >
> > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
> >
> > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> > --
>
> The only time I had this problem was during one of the most stressful times
> in my life, when I was in school 30+ hours and working full time AND pulling
> straight As.
>
> End of insane stress, end of problem.

That's why I'm thinking winter workload stress. You would so not
_believe_ the crap I've seen since T-day and the official beginning of
the Holiday season!

People's holiday diets affect them more than one might believe. If
nothing else, death rates of the chronically ill accelerate at a notable
rate thru the first week or so in January.

>
> Take care of yourself in all the little ways. You take care of your Dad,
> after
> all! Take care of the one who takes care. Fun. Orgasms.

Note to self, schedule time to masturbate. ;-)

> Laughter. Escape.
> Beauty. Love. Spending time with Fat fuzzy funny cats.

I've moved Persephone into my bedroom from the sun room.
She likes it but Celene is jealous.

And I need to go get fishing licenses... and get more sleep.
Speaking of which..... if I go to bed now, that'll be 3 31/2 hours.
Should be about right. <G>


> That sort of thing.
>
> If you are already doing that and still grinding your teeth etc. then I have
> no
> answers.

Oh I try, but I think you have it about right!
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In article 9>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> > 'cept I rarely cook beets....... ;-)
> > And we were supposed to be talking about crockpot beefs? <G>
>
> Oh well...
>
> > Seriously, coffee makes a wonderful rich gravy and does NOT taste like
> > coffee when mixed with meat juices. It just adds a unique richness.
>
> Yes, it does indeed. I hae even used powdered espresso on occasion to add
> some depth to a gravy.

Hm, I've never tried powdered coffee as a sauce ingredient. An
intriguing idea, thanks!

>
> Coffee also makes a damn fine red eye gravy for country ham.

Or sausage and biscuits. That's a given! :-)

>
> --
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >,
>> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Pansy.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh?
>> >> >
>> >> > Ever been hit in the face with liquid habanero?
>> >> > --
>> >> > Peace, Om
>> >>
>> >> I don't see you using anything but youse brain to whip people into
>> >> shape
>> >> here (except me, of course, because I'm too powerful for you). Why
>> >> have
>> >> pepper spray on your key chain? In case your car mouths off at you?
>> >
>> > It's only the _first_ line of defense. The backup only gets brought out
>> > as a last resort.
>> >
>> > I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
>> >
>> > I'll just let Ferocious the male Lab/Chow take care of ya. Betcha he'd
>> > out-power you any day!
>> >
>> > He still has testicles...
>> > --
>> > Peace, Om
>>
>> You have a dog? Can I shoot it, please?
>
> Pet dogs are family members... and I will defend them as such.
> I know you are a dog hater but I'm not. Please don't go there again.
> --
> Peace, Om

OK....can I throw water balloons at it?

In article >,
says...
>
> People's holiday diets affect them more than one might believe. If
> nothing else, death rates of the chronically ill accelerate at a notable
> rate thru the first week or so in January.
>
I read some time back that many people who are, for whatever reason,
literally on death's doorstep, appear to be able to will themselves to
hang in until some milestone is complete. Most often the milestone is
an important holiday, whether religious, ethnic or even family, that has
very deep roots and/or deep significance. Once the date passes, they
also pass. Could be an alternative explanation of what you see (?).

Bob

In article >,
says...
> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?

You have my sympathy; TMJ is horrible. It's hard to believe just how
painful it is until you've got it.

I'll concur with all those who said "see a dentist and get a retainer
device". It works. Especially if you're clenching your jaw at night,
which you said in a later post you are.

In the meantime, one thing that I found offered me some temporary
relief was to push my tongue up against the roof of my mouth as hard
as possible. The movement forces the lower jaw down, easing the
clenching. Do it every time you think about doing it.

--
KVL

Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh pshaw, on Fri 08 Dec 2006 02:24:11p, Omelet meant to say...
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > Omelet > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with
> > beet. >> Unbelievable results.
> > >
> > > Damn typo... Should have read "with beef"!!!
> >
> > OR you could cook beets in coffee.
>
> 'cept I rarely cook beets....... ;-)
> And we were supposed to be talking about crockpot beefs? <G>

So, beef with beets and beer, in the crockpot.



Brian

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> OB Food: Chuck Roast... browned it in a little Canola oil, stuck it
>> in the crock pot with 2 cups beef broth and a can of cheap beer, a
>> couple of bay leaves, pepper, dried thyme, Penzey's dehydrated
>> garlic and onion and a little salt.
>>
>> Jill
>
> What brand of beer?
> I tried that once with Dos Equis.
>
> It did not work out well!

Keystone Light (I said it was the cheap stuff!) It's brewed by Coors,
tastes exactly like Coors. Doesn't cost as much as Coors

Jill

Ravenlynne wrote:
>
> I don't mind the amber Dos Equis.

Try Negra Modelo - very good!
http://www.negramodelo.com/

-L.

"Omelet" > wrote
> Note to self, schedule time to masturbate. ;-)
>

Whatever works!


>> Laughter. Escape.
>> Beauty. Love. Spending time with Fat fuzzy funny cats.
>
> I've moved Persephone into my bedroom from the sun room.
> She likes it but Celene is jealous.
>
> And I need to go get fishing licenses... and get more sleep.
> Speaking of which..... if I go to bed now, that'll be 3 31/2 hours.
> Should be about right. <G>
>
>

Sleep is crucial. It is what I really needed for the six years it took
me to finish school. I don't miss any now, and I don't let anybody
shame me out of getting as much as I need. And believe me, they
try! "Napping during the day?? Must be nice!" "You were still
SLEEPING at 10 am? Are you sick?"

What galls me about this: my MIL is up with the f-ing chickens
but accomplishes nothing all day. I run circles around her, but
generally between 2 pm and 3 or four in the morning. But she
gets to feel virtuous and I am supposed to feel guilty for not
getting up at dawn.

-L. wrote:
> Ravenlynne wrote:
>> I don't mind the amber Dos Equis.
>
> Try Negra Modelo - very good!
> http://www.negramodelo.com/
>
> -L.
>

Will do! I generally don't drink anything less than amber...

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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:24:25 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> yetanotherBob > wrote:
>
>> The right dentist should be able to analyze your bite and jaw movement
>> for a range of possible problems, and may be able to fit a corrective
>> "appliance" or prescribe preventive measures if he finds any problems.
>>
>> A friend of mine had TMJ and eventually (after going through two
>> dentists who were clueless on the problem) got a soft mouthpiece he was
>> supposed to wear when he went to bed. He said it immediately helped and
>> he started sleeping much better than before. I believe he eventually
>> was able to stop wearing it.
>>
>> Bob
>
>That makes 2. ;-)
>
>And it'd solve the problem with the tongue biting.
>I'm just wondering if I could sleep with a device in my mouth.
>That's the only thing that has stopped me from trying it.

Go to your dentist IMMEDIATELY!! and have him make you a night guard
for your lower teeth. Not your upper, but your lower. I couldn't
tolerate the thing on my upper teeth, but on the lower teeth it was
very easy to ignore. In less than a week I was so comfortable with it
that it felt weird =without= it. (DON'T get the kind they sell at
WalMart or the sporting goods store. You need one that's custom fit by
your dentist). Listen to my experience and see if it'll help convince
you to go to your dentist ASAP.

About a year ago, during a regular dental checkup, my dentist looked
at my teeth and said "you know, you grind your teeth. If you don't do
something about it you won't have any teeth left by the time you're
50" (which was immensily flattering as I AM 50!). He said I needed a
night guard, and made one for me then and there. Took less than a half
hour.

Now, I have bad allergies and get sinus headaches regularly. Bad ones,
that are there when I wake up in the morning and sometimes don't go
away at all during the day, no matter what meds I take. In fact, that
day at the dentist I had a particularly bad one.

So that very night I start using the night guard, it wasn't
uncomfortable at all. A week later I suddenly realized I hadn't had a
sinus headache in a week. And then a month went by, then two....well,
I haven't had a single solitary sinus headache in A YEAR!!! Not since
the day I started using the night guard! Turns out it wasn't sinus but
TMJ and the night guard was like a miracle cure, for me.

Now I'm not saying you'll have the same results, but what does it hurt
to try? Stop procrastinating, it's totally painless to get one made
(well, except for your checkbook) and totally painless to use. Please,
don't wait any longer!

Cathy

Oh pshaw, on Fri 08 Dec 2006 04:22:02p, Default User meant to say...

> Omelet wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Oh pshaw, on Fri 08 Dec 2006 02:24:11p, Omelet meant to say...
>> >
>> > > In article >,
>> > > Omelet > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Personally, I like to use left over coffee in the crock pot with
>> > >> beet. >> Unbelievable results.
>> > >
>> > > Damn typo... Should have read "with beef"!!!
>> >
>> > OR you could cook beets in coffee.
>>
>> 'cept I rarely cook beets....... ;-)
>> And we were supposed to be talking about crockpot beefs? <G>
>
> So, beef with beets and beer, in the crockpot.

Or Red Flannel Hash, with a good dark beer on the side

1 lb. cooked beef brisket or corned beef brisket
4 cold boiled potatoes, chopped
1 large onion, chopped
salt, pepper and nutmeg
2 cooked beets, peeled and diced
fresh herbs to taste
3 T. butter

Cut beef into small pieces, combine all remaining ingredients except the
butter. Melt butter in pan and when foaming add the meat mixture, spooned
out evenly on the pan. Cook over low heat, pressing mixture down with
spoon.

Cook for 20 minutes. When a crust forms on the bottom, flip all and cook
for another 20 minutes. Cut into wedges and serve.


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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:09:28 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>See my last post... I tend to clench my jaws when I'm falling asleep to
>the point where I even bite my tongue. The pain wakes me up.
>
>I now prop my jaw shut with a pillow when I remember to do it. That
>might be contributing but it's involuntary, so how does one control
>something like that?

Clenching teeth is very bad for your jaw... a night mouthguard might
actually help you to keep your jaw in the right position.

I had a lifelong habit of leaning on my hand, and it was screwing my
jaw up on that side... fortunately I had to break it when I got a
pinched nerve in my arm, so I only have minor jaw effects.

Relaxation therapy is supposed to be very good for tmj too - the
muscle tightness and pain can become a vicious circle.

In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> > 'cept I rarely cook beets....... ;-)
> > And we were supposed to be talking about crockpot beefs? <G>
>
> So, beef with beets and beer, in the crockpot.
>
>
>
> Brian

I'm not much of a beet fan... I prefer the greens!
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:26:48 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>Oddly enough, it seems to come and go. It's been a very long time since
>I've had to deal with this.
>
>Makes me wonder if the recent increase in stress at work has anything to
>do with it? Increased workload, and I just got another "task" dropped on
>me...

I'd say that's a no-brainer. Stress increases muscle tension, and it's
the excess muscle tension that causes the TMJ... Learn to relax...

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >> OB Food: Chuck Roast... browned it in a little Canola oil, stuck it
> >> in the crock pot with 2 cups beef broth and a can of cheap beer, a
> >> couple of bay leaves, pepper, dried thyme, Penzey's dehydrated
> >> garlic and onion and a little salt.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > What brand of beer?
> > I tried that once with Dos Equis.
> >
> > It did not work out well!
>
> Keystone Light (I said it was the cheap stuff!) It's brewed by Coors,
> tastes exactly like Coors. Doesn't cost as much as Coors
>
> Jill

Thanks for that.
Dad likes Coors so there generally is some in the 'frige now.

I've no idea what posessed him to buy Dos Equis that time.
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In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> OK....can I throw water balloons at it?

She'd catch them in mid-air. ;-)
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In article >,
yetanotherBob > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > People's holiday diets affect them more than one might believe. If
> > nothing else, death rates of the chronically ill accelerate at a notable
> > rate thru the first week or so in January.
> >
> I read some time back that many people who are, for whatever reason,
> literally on death's doorstep, appear to be able to will themselves to
> hang in until some milestone is complete. Most often the milestone is
> an important holiday, whether religious, ethnic or even family, that has
> very deep roots and/or deep significance. Once the date passes, they
> also pass. Could be an alternative explanation of what you see (?).
>
> Bob

It's hard to say... but yes, there are more deaths just after New Years.

Man, you should see some of the blood Chemistry numbers I saw last
night. :-( I swear some diabetics are idiots!
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