Not off topic since it does affect chewing...

I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.

Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
shitloads of Ibuprofen?
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Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
:

> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?



What the hells TMJ????




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Omelet wrote:
> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?

Dang, TMJ can be a bitch, from what I've heard. I wonder if surgery can
help? Have you talked to your dentist about it?

kili
--
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

"kilikini" > wrote in news:Uaheh.9454
:

> Omelet wrote:
>> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>>
>> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I
think
>> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>>
>> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
>> shitloads of Ibuprofen?
>
> Dang, TMJ can be a bitch, from what I've heard. I wonder if surgery
can
> help? Have you talked to your dentist about it?
>
> kili
> --
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
>
>
>


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Google is my friend :-)


http://www.ada.org/public/topics/tmd_tmj.asp



Are you in any of those catagories Omlette?



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In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
> >
> > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
> >
> > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
>
> Dang, TMJ can be a bitch, from what I've heard. I wonder if surgery can
> help? Have you talked to your dentist about it?
>
> kili
> --
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

Not been to a dentist in awhile... I'm not sure that a dentist can fix a
joint problem but I can ask, thanks!
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In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
> :
>
> > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
> >
> > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
> >
> > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
>
>
>
> What the hells TMJ????
>
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas

http://tinyurl.com/y7f3wu

An inflammation of the joint where the jawbone joins the main skull. For
me, it's causing a bad temporal ache in the left side. At least it's
only on one side. The pain increases with jaw movement... which includes
eating and talking. Also is causing a left sided ear ache.
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In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> >
>
>
> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Google is my friend :-)
>
>
> http://www.ada.org/public/topics/tmd_tmj.asp
>
>
>
> Are you in any of those catagories Omlette?
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas

See my last post... I tend to clench my jaws when I'm falling asleep to
the point where I even bite my tongue. The pain wakes me up.

I now prop my jaw shut with a pillow when I remember to do it. That
might be contributing but it's involuntary, so how does one control
something like that?

<sigh>
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I had a miserable time with TMJ years ago, and wound up with an oral
surgeon. My dentist had warned me that I might need surgery, but the
oral surgeon asked me a lot of questions and suggested a few changes in
my lifestyle, which I made immediately. (no more parched corn ever,
no more unpopped popcorn kernels ever, no more gizzards for a few
months, add a warm cloth to my jaw joints every day for a month) It
all got better almost immediately! He also mentioned that if I
continued to play double reed instruments that TMJ would always be a
bit of a problem. I quit playing bassoon and oboe immediately, and
when the TMJ cleared up I decided the time was right to sell the silly
things, and have never regretted it one bit! (These days I play
tympani in the regional symphony instead.) At that time a lot of oral
surgeons jumped into surgery for TMJ. Last month I had occasion to
meet with another oral surgeon on a completely different matter, and we
talked about the TMJ problem I had had. He said surgery is seldom
needed and may not work anyway -- that adjusting some food and other
things is what is helpful. So --- see your dentist, and if you see an
oral surgeon, don't jump into surgery unless and until you have tried
other things! TMJ can be a royal pain, especially if your jaw sticks
open like mine did, but it doesn't have to be forever, and it can be
helped. (You're not a professional double reed player, I hope!)

Omelet wrote:
> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove _ to validate e-mails.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
:

> In article >,
> PeterL > wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Google is my friend :-)
>>
>>
>> http://www.ada.org/public/topics/tmd_tmj.asp
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you in any of those catagories Omlette?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter Lucas
>
> See my last post... I tend to clench my jaws when I'm falling asleep
to
> the point where I even bite my tongue. The pain wakes me up.


Is it a long clench?? Or a short sharp closure, like a muscle spasm?

I have the SSC's.

I often bite my tongue.

Mines caused by Chronic PTSD.


>
> I now prop my jaw shut with a pillow when I remember to do it. That
> might be contributing but it's involuntary, so how does one control
> something like that?
>
> <sigh>



With an Occlusal Splint.

I wear one every night when I go to bed.

http://www.google.com.au/search?sour...&ie=UTF-8&rlz=
1B2GGGL_enAU176&q=occlusal+splint

or

http://tinyurl.com/y622ev




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> >
> > Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Google is my friend :-)
> >
> >
> > http://www.ada.org/public/topics/tmd_tmj.asp
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you in any of those catagories Omlette?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Lucas
>
> See my last post... I tend to clench my jaws when I'm falling asleep to
> the point where I even bite my tongue. The pain wakes me up.
>
> I now prop my jaw shut with a pillow when I remember to do it. That
> might be contributing but it's involuntary, so how does one control
> something like that?
>
> <sigh>
> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove _ to validate e-mails.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack
Nicholson


Not an expert on this, but a friend of mine had TMJ, and his dentist fitted
him with something to put in his mouth when sleeping. I don't think that
cures it, but it apparently makes it less destructive.

Larry T

The right dentist should be able to analyze your bite and jaw movement
for a range of possible problems, and may be able to fit a corrective
"appliance" or prescribe preventive measures if he finds any problems.

A friend of mine had TMJ and eventually (after going through two
dentists who were clueless on the problem) got a soft mouthpiece he was
supposed to wear when he went to bed. He said it immediately helped and
he started sleeping much better than before. I believe he eventually
was able to stop wearing it.

Bob
========================
In article >,
says...
>
> Not been to a dentist in awhile... I'm not sure that a dentist can fix a
> joint problem but I can ask, thanks!
> --
>

Omelet > wrote

> See my last post... I tend to clench my jaws when I'm falling asleep
> to
> the point where I even bite my tongue. The pain wakes me up.

You should see your dentist before you hurt yourself.
They make something to help with that. My 2 cents.

nancy

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> --
> Peace, Om

I've heard it said that when you can point to a clear reason for pain, it
helps you deal with it better. TMJ sucks because it often seems so random. I
suggest you go to a gym and start boxing. Then you'll have a clear reason,
and you'll feel much better.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove _ to validate e-mails.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack
> Nicholson

Not worked with Mental Dentals for years, but we used to operate, and remove
lose bodies and any nasties with good results. Go see your dentist and see
what he recomends! (Approach was via mouth so no nasty scars)
We also used to inject omnipaque ( X Ray dye) so that we could see any
problems. (Arthrogram) Patient were under a general anaesthetic so don't
know the pain factor or if you can have it under local.
Good luck
Sarah

"Mary" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>I had a miserable time with TMJ years ago, and wound up with an oral
> surgeon. My dentist had warned me that I might need surgery, but the
> oral surgeon asked me a lot of questions and suggested a few changes in
> my lifestyle, which I made immediately. (no more parched corn ever,
> no more unpopped popcorn kernels ever, no more gizzards for a few
> months, add a warm cloth to my jaw joints every day for a month) It
> all got better almost immediately! He also mentioned that if I
> continued to play double reed instruments that TMJ would always be a
> bit of a problem. I quit playing bassoon and oboe immediately, and
> when the TMJ cleared up I decided the time was right to sell the silly
> things, and have never regretted it one bit! (These days I play
> tympani in the regional symphony instead.) At that time a lot of oral
> surgeons jumped into surgery for TMJ. Last month I had occasion to
> meet with another oral surgeon on a completely different matter, and we
> talked about the TMJ problem I had had. He said surgery is seldom
> needed and may not work anyway -- that adjusting some food and other
> things is what is helpful. So --- see your dentist, and if you see an
> oral surgeon, don't jump into surgery unless and until you have tried
> other things! TMJ can be a royal pain, especially if your jaw sticks
> open like mine did, but it doesn't have to be forever, and it can be
> helped. (You're not a professional double reed player, I hope!)
>
> Omelet wrote:
>> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>>
>> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
>> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>>
>> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
>> shitloads of Ibuprofen?
>> --
>> Peace, Om
>>
>>
I've worn an occlusal splint for 30 years. It relieves all of my symptoms.
You have to wear it every night. You have to have it adjusted every six mos.
or so for the first several years to make sure your nighttime occlusion is
what it should be.
I would consider TMJ surgery for myself only as an absolute last resort.
Joint replacement surgery is being done. If that's a consideration, go to
the nearest university. I wouldn't go down the street.
Kent

In article om>,
"Mary" > wrote:

> I had a miserable time with TMJ years ago, and wound up with an oral
> surgeon. My dentist had warned me that I might need surgery, but the
> oral surgeon asked me a lot of questions and suggested a few changes in
> my lifestyle, which I made immediately. (no more parched corn ever,
> no more unpopped popcorn kernels ever, no more gizzards for a few
> months, add a warm cloth to my jaw joints every day for a month) It
> all got better almost immediately!

Hm. Wonder if giving up red meat for a month might help? I can't really
think of anything I've been eating to be hard on the jaw tho'.

> He also mentioned that if I
> continued to play double reed instruments that TMJ would always be a
> bit of a problem. I quit playing bassoon and oboe immediately, and
> when the TMJ cleared up I decided the time was right to sell the silly
> things, and have never regretted it one bit! (These days I play
> tympani in the regional symphony instead.) At that time a lot of oral
> surgeons jumped into surgery for TMJ. Last month I had occasion to
> meet with another oral surgeon on a completely different matter, and we
> talked about the TMJ problem I had had. He said surgery is seldom
> needed and may not work anyway -- that adjusting some food and other
> things is what is helpful. So --- see your dentist, and if you see an
> oral surgeon, don't jump into surgery unless and until you have tried
> other things! TMJ can be a royal pain, especially if your jaw sticks
> open like mine did, but it doesn't have to be forever, and it can be
> helped. (You're not a professional double reed player, I hope!)

<lol> No, I pretend to play guitar and play mid eastern dance drum when
I get the chance. :-)

Thanks for the advice! The nocturnal jaw clenching issue might be part
of the problem. I'm considering purchasing one of those bite thingies
for sports.
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In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Is it a long clench?? Or a short sharp closure, like a muscle spasm?

Spasm. That's why the edge of my tongue gets bitten. The swelling it
causes is beginning to cause a slight, annoying lisp in my speech. :-(
If I remember to prop my jaw shut, it's not as much of an issue.

>
> I have the SSC's.
>
> I often bite my tongue.
>
> Mines caused by Chronic PTSD.

PTSD?
<googles>

Oh.

What war were you in? :-(
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> > > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
> > >
> > > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> > > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
> > >
> > > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> > > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> >
> > Dang, TMJ can be a bitch, from what I've heard. I wonder if surgery can
> > help? Have you talked to your dentist about it?
> >
> > kili
> > --
> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
>
> Not been to a dentist in awhile... I'm not sure that a dentist can fix a
> joint problem but I can ask, thanks!
> --
> Peace, Om

Shirley, you jest. ;-) Dentists are the experts with TMJ. Find out
who might be the best one for this and get a referral from your regular
dentist. They definitely can help.

N.

In article . net>,
"LT" > wrote:

> Not an expert on this, but a friend of mine had TMJ, and his dentist fitted
> him with something to put in his mouth when sleeping. I don't think that
> cures it, but it apparently makes it less destructive.
>
> Larry T

I've been considering that, thanks!
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In article >,
yetanotherBob > wrote:

> The right dentist should be able to analyze your bite and jaw movement
> for a range of possible problems, and may be able to fit a corrective
> "appliance" or prescribe preventive measures if he finds any problems.
>
> A friend of mine had TMJ and eventually (after going through two
> dentists who were clueless on the problem) got a soft mouthpiece he was
> supposed to wear when he went to bed. He said it immediately helped and
> he started sleeping much better than before. I believe he eventually
> was able to stop wearing it.
>
> Bob

That makes 2. ;-)

And it'd solve the problem with the tongue biting.
I'm just wondering if I could sleep with a device in my mouth.
That's the only thing that has stopped me from trying it.
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In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote
>
> > See my last post... I tend to clench my jaws when I'm falling asleep
> > to
> > the point where I even bite my tongue. The pain wakes me up.
>
> You should see your dentist before you hurt yourself.
> They make something to help with that. My 2 cents.
>
> nancy

In other words, quit being cheap and sign up for a dental appointment.
<G> It's been about 5 years anyway, and I do have insurance.
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In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
> >
> > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
> >
> > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> I've heard it said that when you can point to a clear reason for pain, it
> helps you deal with it better. TMJ sucks because it often seems so random. I
> suggest you go to a gym and start boxing. Then you'll have a clear reason,
> and you'll feel much better.

<snork>

There are no gyms that cater to that in my area. ;-D
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In article > ,
"Sarah" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
> >
> > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
> >
> > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> > --
> > Peace, Om
> >
> > Remove _ to validate e-mails.
> >
> > "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack
> > Nicholson
>
> Not worked with Mental Dentals for years, but we used to operate, and remove
> lose bodies and any nasties with good results. Go see your dentist and see
> what he recomends! (Approach was via mouth so no nasty scars)
> We also used to inject omnipaque ( X Ray dye) so that we could see any
> problems. (Arthrogram) Patient were under a general anaesthetic so don't
> know the pain factor or if you can have it under local.
> Good luck
> Sarah

Oddly enough, it seems to come and go. It's been a very long time since
I've had to deal with this.

Makes me wonder if the recent increase in stress at work has anything to
do with it? Increased workload, and I just got another "task" dropped on
me...
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:05:23 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:


>
>An inflammation of the joint where the jawbone joins the main skull. For
>me, it's causing a bad temporal ache in the left side. At least it's
>only on one side. The pain increases with jaw movement... which includes
>eating and talking. Also is causing a left sided ear ache.
Om try a sports mouth guard, it may help with clenching of your teeth.
No I'm not a dentist. But for a few bucks it's worth a try.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>> >
>> > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
>> > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>> >
>> > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
>> > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
>> > --
>> > Peace, Om
>>
>> I've heard it said that when you can point to a clear reason for pain, it
>> helps you deal with it better. TMJ sucks because it often seems so
>> random. I
>> suggest you go to a gym and start boxing. Then you'll have a clear
>> reason,
>> and you'll feel much better.
>
> <snork>
>
> There are no gyms that cater to that in my area. ;-D
> --
> Peace, Om


Jeez...where's your resourcefulness, woman? Got a bar nearby? Walk in and
start an altercation. You manage to do that here on a regular basis.

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
>
> I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
>
> Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> shitloads of Ibuprofen?

Chew gum. Bite down on a spacer--sometimes I just use a pencil...

Amy

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> yetanotherBob > wrote:
>
>> The right dentist should be able to analyze your bite and jaw
>> movement for a range of possible problems, and may be able to fit a
>> corrective "appliance" or prescribe preventive measures if he finds
>> any problems.
>>
>> A friend of mine had TMJ and eventually (after going through two
>> dentists who were clueless on the problem) got a soft mouthpiece he
>> was supposed to wear when he went to bed. He said it immediately
>> helped and he started sleeping much better than before. I believe
>> he eventually was able to stop wearing it.
>>
>> Bob
>
> That makes 2. ;-)
>
> And it'd solve the problem with the tongue biting.
> I'm just wondering if I could sleep with a device in my mouth.
> That's the only thing that has stopped me from trying it.

Having worn a retainer for a number of years, yeah, you could sleep with it
in your mouth. After a few nights you wouldn't even notice it. It's fitted
using a mold taken of your upper and lower jaw. I'd sure recommend that
rather than what you describe especially since, as you say, you have
insurance. However, not all insurance covers treatment or devices for TMJ
so you need to read your policy information or call your insurance carrier
first.

Jill

In article >,
"Kent" > wrote:

> I've worn an occlusal splint for 30 years. It relieves all of my symptoms.
> You have to wear it every night. You have to have it adjusted every six mos.
> or so for the first several years to make sure your nighttime occlusion is
> what it should be.
> I would consider TMJ surgery for myself only as an absolute last resort.
> Joint replacement surgery is being done. If that's a consideration, go to
> the nearest university. I wouldn't go down the street.
> Kent

Surgery _would_ be a last resort. ;-) Ibuprofen works well enough, at
least for now. Like I said, this comes and goes. I'm trying to explore
my memory to see if stress contributes. It was first diagnosed by an ER
PA when I had a bad ear ache for no apparent reason, and it's on the
left side.

This time, the pain is right over the joint and gets worse if I open my
jaw to yawn. It's bearable, it's just a PITA.

Thanks for the tips!
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In article . com>,
"Nancy2" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "kilikini" > wrote:
> >
> > > Omelet wrote:
> > > > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
> > > >
> > > > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> > > > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
> > > >
> > > > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> > > > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
> > >
> > > Dang, TMJ can be a bitch, from what I've heard. I wonder if surgery can
> > > help? Have you talked to your dentist about it?
> > >
> > > kili
> > > --
> > > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
> >
> > Not been to a dentist in awhile... I'm not sure that a dentist can fix a
> > joint problem but I can ask, thanks!
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> Shirley, you jest. ;-) Dentists are the experts with TMJ. Find out
> who might be the best one for this and get a referral from your regular
> dentist. They definitely can help.
>
> N.

Hmmmmm... dental history.

Fillings at age 5, 2 of the 4 were deciduous teeth.

Next major visit was at age 21. All teeth were fine, no cavities. The
two remaining mercury fillings were replaced with gold inlays.

Next visit was at age 35, 9 years ago.

Two major composite fillings in rear molars, two minor ones that just
needed a light air sanding.

I'm blessed with good teeth. I posses a set of dental picks and a dental
mirror that I use to keep any plaque deposits removed myself.

Ok, so like my dad, I'm not a fan of dentistry... and I got my mom's
genes for healthy teeth. I even still have all 4 of my wisdom teeth and
they are not causing any problems. I also never have eaten a lot of
sugar, nor am I a soda fan. Carbonic acid does "wonders" for dental
health. (not)

So, this means that I will get a referral from my endocrinologist whom I
trust more than any doctor I've ever seen, and I'll use one that is on
our insurance plan for maximum coverage!
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In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
> > Omelet > wrote
> >
> > > See my last post... I tend to clench my jaws when I'm falling asleep
> > > to
> > > the point where I even bite my tongue. The pain wakes me up.
> >
> > You should see your dentist before you hurt yourself.
> > They make something to help with that. My 2 cents.
> >
> > nancy
>
> In other words, quit being cheap and sign up for a dental appointment.
> <G> It's been about 5 years anyway, and I do have insurance.

Make that 9 years... I made a phone call to the last one.
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In article >,
Pan Ohco > wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:05:23 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >An inflammation of the joint where the jawbone joins the main skull. For
> >me, it's causing a bad temporal ache in the left side. At least it's
> >only on one side. The pain increases with jaw movement... which includes
> >eating and talking. Also is causing a left sided ear ache.
> Om try a sports mouth guard, it may help with clenching of your teeth.
> No I'm not a dentist. But for a few bucks it's worth a try.

That makes 3......
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"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> Jeez...where's your resourcefulness, woman? Got a bar nearby? Walk in and
> start an altercation. You manage to do that here on a regular basis.

Are you volunteering?

Remember, I'm armed...

Just kidding. ;-)
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>,
A Ross > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > Not off topic since it does affect chewing...
> >
> > I have it off and on and it's flaring up again. Gods it hurts! I think
> > it's related to developing Osteoarthritis.
> >
> > Dammit, I'm too young for this. Anyone have any advice other than
> > shitloads of Ibuprofen?
>
> Chew gum. Bite down on a spacer--sometimes I just use a pencil...
>
> Amy

Actually, the website research I have done recommends giving up chewing
gum.

I never have had that as a habit. I can't even remember the last time I
chewed gum.
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> Jeez...where's your resourcefulness, woman? Got a bar nearby? Walk in and
>> start an altercation. You manage to do that here on a regular basis.
>
> Are you volunteering?
>
> Remember, I'm armed...
>
> Just kidding. ;-)

We leave the guns at the door.

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> > I'm just wondering if I could sleep with a device in my mouth.
> > That's the only thing that has stopped me from trying it.
>
> Having worn a retainer for a number of years, yeah, you could sleep with it
> in your mouth. After a few nights you wouldn't even notice it. It's fitted
> using a mold taken of your upper and lower jaw. I'd sure recommend that
> rather than what you describe especially since, as you say, you have
> insurance. However, not all insurance covers treatment or devices for TMJ
> so you need to read your policy information or call your insurance carrier
> first.
>
> Jill

True dat. I'll snag a manual from HR and see.

I agree that a fitted device should be more comfortable than one from
the sporting goods store...

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Oh pshaw, on Fri 08 Dec 2006 02:01:43p, Omelet meant to say...

> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> OB Food: Chuck Roast... browned it in a little Canola oil, stuck it in
>> the crock pot with 2 cups beef broth and a can of cheap beer, a couple
>> of bay leaves, pepper, dried thyme, Penzey's dehydrated garlic and
>> onion and a little salt.
>>
>> Jill
>
> What brand of beer?
> I tried that once with Dos Equis.
>
> It did not work out well!

I've always used a dark beer (not always expensive) with beef.

Years ago someone taught me how to make "seaman's beef", which is nothing
more than well-browned beef, thickly sliced potatoes, and thickly sliced
onions, seasoned only with a clove of garlic, salt, pepper, and a beer. I
was told to always use dark beer. It has always been good.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >
> >> Jeez...where's your resourcefulness, woman? Got a bar nearby? Walk in and
> >> start an altercation. You manage to do that here on a regular basis.
> >
> > Are you volunteering?
> >
> > Remember, I'm armed...
> >
> > Just kidding. ;-)
>
> We leave the guns at the door.

<innocent look>

Who said anything about guns?

There is OC spray on my keychain........
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
> True dat. I'll snag a manual from HR and see.
>
> I agree that a fitted device should be more comfortable than one from
> the sporting goods store...
>
> Thanks.

I must have missed a reply in this thread - a sporting goods store???? LOL

Jill

Sometimes insurance may be more likely to cover it if it's defined as a
"medical" vs. "dental" problem; i.e., if you can get your regular MD to
refer you to a DDS or DMD specifically for evaluation/treatment of TMJ,
it may be more likely to be covered by one or both types of insurance.

Bob
=======================
In article >,
says...
> Having worn a retainer for a number of years, yeah, you could sleep with it
> in your mouth. After a few nights you wouldn't even notice it. It's fitted
> using a mold taken of your upper and lower jaw. I'd sure recommend that
> rather than what you describe especially since, as you say, you have
> insurance. However, not all insurance covers treatment or devices for TMJ
> so you need to read your policy information or call your insurance carrier
> first.
>

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >,
>> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jeez...where's your resourcefulness, woman? Got a bar nearby? Walk in
>> >> and
>> >> start an altercation. You manage to do that here on a regular basis.
>> >
>> > Are you volunteering?
>> >
>> > Remember, I'm armed...
>> >
>> > Just kidding. ;-)
>>
>> We leave the guns at the door.
>
> <innocent look>
>
> Who said anything about guns?
>
> There is OC spray on my keychain........

Pansy.