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I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each, at the
farmer's market. I put them, whole, in a stock pot and covered them with spring water. I brought the pot to a gentle simmer, never going over 200 degrees, for 2 hours. Scum skimmed as required. Removed the birds and cut them into 1" pieces, returned to pot with a medium onion, halved, 1 medium carrot and 1 celery stalk, cut into 1" chunks, 2 whole garlic cloves, 6 whole black peppercorns, 1 tsp salt. Simmered at 200-205 degrees for another 4 hours. Strained, removed most of the fat. I now have about 1 gallon of the most heavenly tasting stock, crystal clear. It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. -- Peter Aitken |
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> I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each, at the > farmer's market. I put them, whole, in a stock pot and covered them with > spring water. I brought the pot to a gentle simmer, never going over 200 > degrees, for 2 hours. Scum skimmed as required. Removed the birds and > cut them into 1" pieces, returned to pot with a medium onion, halved, 1 > medium carrot and 1 celery stalk, cut into 1" chunks, 2 whole garlic > cloves, 6 whole black peppercorns, 1 tsp salt. Simmered at 200-205 > degrees for another 4 hours. Strained, removed most of the fat. I now > have about 1 gallon of the most heavenly tasting stock, crystal clear. > > It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. > > LOL... on first glance I thought this said "I bought two old hens, retired lawyers..." I thought to myself "Oh too cute.. he's assigned occupations to his birds" lol |
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Peter A said...
> It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. Peter A, Do you have any immediate plans for some portion of your fresh homemade? Andy |
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![]() "Peter A" > wrote in message ... > I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each, at the > farmer's market. I put them, whole, in a stock pot and covered them with > spring water. I brought the pot to a gentle simmer, never going over 200 > degrees, for 2 hours. Scum skimmed as required. Removed the birds and > cut them into 1" pieces, returned to pot with a medium onion, halved, 1 > medium carrot and 1 celery stalk, cut into 1" chunks, 2 whole garlic > cloves, 6 whole black peppercorns, 1 tsp salt. Simmered at 200-205 > degrees for another 4 hours. Strained, removed most of the fat. I now > have about 1 gallon of the most heavenly tasting stock, crystal clear. > > It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. I had to laugh. Retired hens and their retirement home is a soup pot. Clearly not the best retirement plan they could have. I can only hope it doesn't catch on for those of us higher up the food chain. But lately, one never knows what can pass for a great idea. Paul |
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:39:53 -0500, Peter A >
wrote: >I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each ....damn....that is some skinny layers. We like'm about 5 pounds each. |
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![]() "Peter A" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > says... >> On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:39:53 -0500, Peter A > >> wrote: >> >> >I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each >> >> ...damn....that is some skinny layers. We like'm about 5 pounds >> each. >> > -- > Peter Aitken > > My question as well. Where do you find 2.5lb "old hens"? |
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![]() Peter A wrote: > I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each, at the > farmer's market. I put them, whole, in a stock pot and covered them with > spring water. I brought the pot to a gentle simmer, never going over 200 > degrees, for 2 hours. Scum skimmed as required. Removed the birds and > cut them into 1" pieces, returned to pot with a medium onion, halved, 1 > medium carrot and 1 celery stalk, cut into 1" chunks, 2 whole garlic > cloves, 6 whole black peppercorns, 1 tsp salt. Simmered at 200-205 > degrees for another 4 hours. Strained, removed most of the fat. I now > have about 1 gallon of the most heavenly tasting stock, crystal clear. > > It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. Yep, really worth not using old scraps. |
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![]() "Peter A" > wrote in message ... >I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each, at the > farmer's market. I put them, whole, in a stock pot and covered them with > spring water. I brought the pot to a gentle simmer, never going over 200 > degrees, for 2 hours. Scum skimmed as required. Removed the birds and > cut them into 1" pieces, returned to pot with a medium onion, halved, 1 > medium carrot and 1 celery stalk, cut into 1" chunks, 2 whole garlic > cloves, 6 whole black peppercorns, 1 tsp salt. Simmered at 200-205 > degrees for another 4 hours. Strained, removed most of the fat. I now > have about 1 gallon of the most heavenly tasting stock, crystal clear. > > It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. > -- > Peter Aitken Damn! Sounds good enough to drink! Felice |
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![]() "Paul M. Cook" > wrote > > > I had to laugh. Retired hens and their retirement home is a soup pot. I did too! I could just about see their little half-glasses and crossword puzzle books! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:36:29 -0500, Peter A >
wrote: >When you use them for stock, the weight is irrelevant. They were putting the scrawny meat back in the stock. Didn't you read that? |
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![]() "yetanotherBob" > wrote > When we were stationed in Japan, I used to stop in at a little shop on > the way home from work every so often to buy eggs. That was about all > they seemed to sell, and they were some of the best, freshest eggs you > could imagine. > > One day I spotted a really nice-looking whole chicken in a cooler case > off to one side, and asked how much it was. The price was right, so it > got bagged up and taken home with the eggs. (laughing!) You know what I thought you were going to say? After that they didn't have eggs to sell anymore. nancy |
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how will you store a gallon of chicken stock?
"Peter A" > wrote in message ... >I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each, at the > farmer's market. I put them, whole, in a stock pot and covered them with > spring water. I brought the pot to a gentle simmer, never going over 200 > degrees, for 2 hours. Scum skimmed as required. Removed the birds and > cut them into 1" pieces, returned to pot with a medium onion, halved, 1 > medium carrot and 1 celery stalk, cut into 1" chunks, 2 whole garlic > cloves, 6 whole black peppercorns, 1 tsp salt. Simmered at 200-205 > degrees for another 4 hours. Strained, removed most of the fat. I now > have about 1 gallon of the most heavenly tasting stock, crystal clear. > > It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. > > > -- > Peter Aitken |
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@comcast.net says... > My question as well. Where do you find 2.5lb "old hens"? > > > I got them at the local farmer's market. I asked for "stewing hens" so to be honest I am just assuming they were old. THere are some breeds that don;t get as big as the commercial chickens, you know. -- Peter Aitken |
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Peter A > wrote: > I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each, at the > farmer's market. I put them, whole, in a stock pot and covered them with > spring water. I brought the pot to a gentle simmer, never going over 200 > degrees, for 2 hours. Scum skimmed as required. Removed the birds and > cut them into 1" pieces, returned to pot with a medium onion, halved, 1 > medium carrot and 1 celery stalk, cut into 1" chunks, 2 whole garlic > cloves, 6 whole black peppercorns, 1 tsp salt. Simmered at 200-205 > degrees for another 4 hours. Strained, removed most of the fat. I now > have about 1 gallon of the most heavenly tasting stock, crystal clear. > > It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. Sounds most excellent!!!! -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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![]() yetanotherBob wrote: > In article om>, > says... > > > > Maybe better if you had made stock with it. Browned chicken stock is > > good, too! > > maxine in ri > > > > > Sheesh, NOW you tell me... (This happened *only* about 33 years ago.) > > I mentioned to my wife that I had revealed "the rest of the story" and > all she could do was shake her head and roll her eyes. That was one > TOUGH hen (the chicken, not the wife). The wife got to clean the thing > out and finish off the pinfeather elimination when I got it home, so she > has even more vivid memories of the experience than I do. > > Bob So next time, you'll know. Just be forwarned: just about all kosher birds are just as annoying to clean off the pinfeathers, altho the innards are already gone. Prolly not a problem, but just thought I should mention it. maxine in ri |
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"readandpostrosie" > wrote: > "Peter A" > wrote in message > ... > >I bought two old hens, retired layers, about 2.5 pounds each, at the > > farmer's market. I put them, whole, in a stock pot and covered them with > > spring water. I brought the pot to a gentle simmer, never going over 200 > > degrees, for 2 hours. Scum skimmed as required. Removed the birds and > > cut them into 1" pieces, returned to pot with a medium onion, halved, 1 > > medium carrot and 1 celery stalk, cut into 1" chunks, 2 whole garlic > > cloves, 6 whole black peppercorns, 1 tsp salt. Simmered at 200-205 > > degrees for another 4 hours. Strained, removed most of the fat. I now > > have about 1 gallon of the most heavenly tasting stock, crystal clear. > > > > It's really worth going the extra mile when making stock. > > > > > > -- > > Peter Aitken > > how will you store a gallon of chicken stock? > <corrected for top posting> I have at least a gallon of stock in the freezer right now... It's a luxury to have that much as I generally have to make it as I need it. I've been going thru a LOT of stock lately. It's mostly turkey stock, and some duck stock. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Peter A > wrote: > In article >, > says... > > how will you store a gallon of chicken stock? > > > > > > > > Freeze it in 1 quart yogurt containers. I refrigerate it over night for defatting, then store it in ziplock freezer storage bags. It's easier that way, but that's a good way to recycle yogurt containers. :-) -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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"maxine in ri" > wrote: > Maybe better if you had made stock with it. Browned chicken stock is > good, too! > maxine in ri Oh gods yes! The batch of duck stock I made for Christmas dinner was pre-roasted. I used duck wings I found at the asian market. I roasted them first for one hour (there were 4 lbs. of them), then made the stock. It was incredible! ;-d -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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![]() "yetanotherBob" > wrote > When I clued him in that I was interested in the "leg quarter" part vs. > the "kosher" part, he looked a bit relieved and offered to package up a > bunch of legs and thighs at the sale price, but y'know, it just isn't > the same... Just curious, did people always call the drumsticks 'legs'? I see that often now. I know my leg includes my thigh. If I buy a chicken leg, I expect a drumstick and thigh attached. nancy |
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![]() "yetanotherBob" > wrote > says... >> Just curious, did people always call the drumsticks 'legs'? I see >> that often now. I know my leg includes my thigh. If I buy a >> chicken leg, I expect a drumstick and thigh attached. > Around here you see and hear it both ways: legs and drumsticks. The > attached leg/drumstick plus thigh are called "leg quarters" pretty > uniformly, from what I've seen. Could it be a regional thing, like so > many other food names and references? I really don't know, it's only something I've noticed over maybe the past couple of years. Now, today I see in the ad, 10 lbs for $10, chicken Whole Legs, Drumsticks, Thighs or Whole Chickens. Other times I have seen the drums sold as legs. On the subject of chicken, I picked up a package of chicken breasts, bone in, being that they were on sale a dollar a pound as well. This way I get to practice using my brand new boning knife. Let's hope I don't wind up going by the nickname 9 finger nancy. nancy |
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![]() "yetanotherBob" > wrote > says... >> >> On the subject of chicken, I picked up a package of chicken >> breasts, bone in, being that they were on sale a dollar a pound >> as well. This way I get to practice using my brand new boning >> knife. Let's hope I don't wind up going by the nickname >> 9 finger nancy. > Good luck, and don't forget to brown those ribs and toss them into the > stockpot! ;-) To be honest I hadn't thought of it. Of course. Thanks! nancy |
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In article >,
yetanotherBob > wrote: > In article >, > says... > > > > "yetanotherBob" > wrote > > > > > When I clued him in that I was interested in the "leg quarter" part vs. > > > the "kosher" part, he looked a bit relieved and offered to package up a > > > bunch of legs and thighs at the sale price, but y'know, it just isn't > > > the same... > > > > Just curious, did people always call the drumsticks 'legs'? I see > > that often now. I know my leg includes my thigh. If I buy a > > chicken leg, I expect a drumstick and thigh attached. > > > > nancy > > > Around here you see and hear it both ways: legs and drumsticks. The > attached leg/drumstick plus thigh are called "leg quarters" pretty > uniformly, from what I've seen. Could it be a regional thing, like so > many other food names and references? > > Bob Leg quarters here also include a back portion. They are literally the back half of the chicken, cut in half, back and all. Legs are called drumsticks and are just the lower portion. I've never seen just a leg and thigh sold together as a "leg", just the hindquarters with the back portion. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote: > "yetanotherBob" > wrote > > > says... > > >> Just curious, did people always call the drumsticks 'legs'? I see > >> that often now. I know my leg includes my thigh. If I buy a > >> chicken leg, I expect a drumstick and thigh attached. > > > Around here you see and hear it both ways: legs and drumsticks. The > > attached leg/drumstick plus thigh are called "leg quarters" pretty > > uniformly, from what I've seen. Could it be a regional thing, like so > > many other food names and references? > > I really don't know, it's only something I've noticed over maybe > the past couple of years. Now, today I see in the ad, 10 lbs for $10, > chicken Whole Legs, Drumsticks, Thighs or Whole Chickens. > > Other times I have seen the drums sold as legs. > > On the subject of chicken, I picked up a package of chicken > breasts, bone in, being that they were on sale a dollar a pound > as well. This way I get to practice using my brand new boning > knife. Let's hope I don't wind up going by the nickname > 9 finger nancy. > > nancy Take your time... and don't drink while boning. <G> -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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![]() "Omelet" > wrote > "Nancy Young" > wrote: >> On the subject of chicken, I picked up a package of chicken >> breasts, bone in, being that they were on sale a dollar a pound >> as well. This way I get to practice using my brand new boning >> knife. Let's hope I don't wind up going by the nickname >> 9 finger nancy. > Take your time... and don't drink while boning. <G> (laughing) Advice well worth following, for all of us. nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> "yetanotherBob" > wrote > > Around here you see and hear it both ways: legs and drumsticks. The > > attached leg/drumstick plus thigh are called "leg quarters" pretty > > uniformly, from what I've seen. Could it be a regional thing, like so > > many other food names and references? > > I really don't know, it's only something I've noticed over maybe > the past couple of years. Now, today I see in the ad, 10 lbs for $10, > chicken Whole Legs, Drumsticks, Thighs or Whole Chickens. [snip] > There's the drumstick, there's the thigh, and together they make the leg or "whole leg." But there's also the back, or part of it, and I would expect that to be included in something called the "leg quarter." Not that I would want it, but I'd expect it. What I hate is when they call them "legs" or "whole legs" and still include that part of the back (or hip). I've told the meat guy at two local supers I think that's dishonest labeling and they just shrug. Yet another reason why I nearly always buy whole chickens and cut them up myself. -aem |
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In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote: > "Omelet" > wrote > > > "Nancy Young" > wrote: > > >> On the subject of chicken, I picked up a package of chicken > >> breasts, bone in, being that they were on sale a dollar a pound > >> as well. This way I get to practice using my brand new boning > >> knife. Let's hope I don't wind up going by the nickname > >> 9 finger nancy. > > > Take your time... and don't drink while boning. <G> > > (laughing) Advice well worth following, for all of us. > > nancy Btdt, got the scars to prove it? <g> -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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How many recipes do we NEED ??? Enough already !
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![]() "Omelet" > wrote > "Nancy Young" > wrote: > >> "Omelet" > wrote >> > Take your time... and don't drink while boning. <G> >> >> (laughing) Advice well worth following, for all of us. > Btdt, got the scars to prove it? <g> Oh, no, I was just going along with the double entendre. No knife scars for this girl. nancy |
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Peter A > wrote: > In article >, > says... > > > Take your time... and don't drink while boning. <G> > > -- > > Peace, Om > > > Minor point, but THANK YOU for not saying "deboning." I know better. :-) It's like shelling nuts... -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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