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"Richard Periut" > wrote in message
...
> Curly Sue wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:55:38 GMT, Richard Periut >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Marcelino wrote:
> >>
> >>>You really need to check this out... Pork eater especially.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....nahan-pig-farm
> >>
> >
> >>A video which portrays a few sick and frustrated freaks, doesn't stand
> >>as the standard for killing pigs in the pork industry.
> >>
> >>It's just amazing the way these hypocrites try to raise awareness of
> >>animal suffering, without shedding an iota of evidence to human
> >>suffering; the children dying of hunger and *Curable* diseases in
> >>Africa, India, et cetera.
> >>
> >>I'm sure these people, with their cotton candy lives, driving their
> >>BMW's, and drinking California wine, would rather see a whale, a pig, a
> >>chicken, or a mink saved, before 10 human children can be fed and
healed.
> >
> >
> > What makes you say that?
>
>
> I never see those animal lovers, concern themselves with the biggest
> problem in our existence; human suffering--especially from situations in
> which there are remedies.
>
> >
> >
> >>What friggin quintessential hypocrisy!
> >
> >
> > Not everyone who is concerned about animal suffering drives BMWs,
> > drinks California wine (?), or has a cotton candy life, and it's
> > certainly not hypocritical to be dismayed by bad treatment of animals.
> >
>
> Yes when the human factor has been totally ignored. Can you look at
> yourself at the mirror in the mornings?

Pray tell what is it exactly you do to aid the suffering humans in the
world?

Paul

"Dave W." > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "C. James Strutz" > wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >
> > Raising livestock as a food source is a huge inefficiency of resources.
The
> > amount of grain used to feed livestock could feed many times the number
of
> > people than the meat could feed. Livestock also consume huge amounts of
> > fresh water which is in short supply in many parts of the world. And the
> > pork industry, in particular, is a major producer of hazerdous waste.
> > Furthermore, many of the hungry people of the world couldn't afford to
buy
> > meat even if you could get it to them easily (it must be refrigerated).
It's
> > the meat eaters of the world who are contributing more to world
hunger...
> >
> Read Malthus. Sounds to me like the problem is over population (whatever
> happened to the zero-growth folks?) I will not lower the quality of my
> life so we can stuff another few billion souls on this already
> overburdoned planet.

You're right that overpopulation is a problem. However, I contend that not
eating meat and dairy raises the quality of life rather than lowering it....

>
> I've lived a rather long and productive life. However I intentionally
> didn't produce children so that we earthlings could afford to grow a few
> more cows.
>
> Regards,
> Dave (pass the gravy) W.
>
> --
> Living in the Ozarks. For email, dot edu will do!

James McIninch > writes:

>You're a hypocrite if you pan the consumption of animals yet still support
>the slaughter of vegatation. It's omnivory or autotrophy, anything else is
>just a sad delusion.
>
>(Incidentally, that's tongue and cheek, all).

Um, that's tongue *in* cheek.

Tongues and cheeks are in headcheese.

M-W
tongue in cheek
Function: adverb
Date: circa 1934
: with insincerity, irony, or whimsical exaggeration
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I dont know who you refer when calling and Idiot,But all I had done was
posted a link and you guys done the rest..........
"Dimitri" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Marcelino" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > You really need to check this out... Pork eater especially.
> >
> > http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....nahan-pig-farm
>
>
> Are you the idiot who has been subscribing people to the PETA newsletter?
>
> Dimitri
>
>

Animals eat one another in nature, so why shouldn't we eat animals?
Variations on this include, "Aren't humans at the top of the food chain?"
and "Aren't humans omnivores?"

Please examine what we do to animals on factory farms and in
slaughterhouses, denying animals everything that is natural to them and then
killing them in gruesome ways, and try to tell me that this is moral. Nature
's law is, without a doubt, Darwin's "survival of the fittest." Some animals
may procreate by rape; other animals may fight territorial battles to the
death. But we hold ourselves to a higher standard in our interactions with
one another. We even hold ourselves to a higher standard with regard to
animals we often form special bonds with, such as dogs and cats-readily
granting them some basic protections. What animal welfare advocates suggest
is that we should also be compassionate toward all animals.

"Marcelino" > wrote in message
.com...
> I dont know who you refer when calling and Idiot,But all I had done was
> posted a link and you guys done the rest..........
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > "Marcelino" > wrote in message
> > .com...
> > > You really need to check this out... Pork eater especially.
> > >
> > > http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....nahan-pig-farm
> >
> >
> > Are you the idiot who has been subscribing people to the PETA
newsletter?
> >
> > Dimitri
> >
> >
>
>

Don't plants feel pain? This also is sometimes posed as, "Where do you draw
the line? Rights for roaches?" So far, as best we can determine biologically
and physiologically, plants do not feel pain. They are alive and have some
sort of response to light, water, etc., but they don't feel pain. Pain
requires a brain, a central nervous system, pain receptors, and so on. All
mammals, birds, and fish have these things. No plants do. We all know this
to be true: We all understand that there is a fundamental difference between
cutting your lawn and lighting a cat's tail on fire and between breaking up
a head of lettuce and bashing a dog's head in. Birds, mammals, and fish are
made of flesh, bones, and fat, just as we are. They feel pain, just as we
do. I may not know quite where to draw the line. For example, I'm not sure
what a roach or an ant experiences. But I do know with 100 percent certainty
that intentionally inflicting suffering because of tradition, custom,
convenience, or a palate preference is unethical. And if we're eating meat,
dairy products, or eggs, we're intentionally causing suffering, for no good
reason

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> James McIninch > writes:
>
> >You're a hypocrite if you pan the consumption of animals yet still
support
> >the slaughter of vegatation. It's omnivory or autotrophy, anything else
is
> >just a sad delusion.
> >
> >(Incidentally, that's tongue and cheek, all).
>
> Um, that's tongue *in* cheek.
>
> Tongues and cheeks are in headcheese.
>
>
> M-W
> tongue in cheek
> Function: adverb
> Date: circa 1934
> : with insincerity, irony, or whimsical exaggeration
> ---
>
>
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Subject: Penmart01) If You Eat Pork of any kind
From: "Marcelino" >
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:27:10 GMT

In article >, "Marcelino"
> writes:

>Don't plants feel pain?

Yep, you... a dumb potato head... now go impale your stinky butthole on a
thorny berry cane, PEA brain.

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"Marcelino" > wrote in message
.com...
> I dont know who you refer when calling and Idiot,But all I had done was
> posted a link and you guys done the rest..........
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > "Marcelino" > wrote in message
> > .com...
> > > You really need to check this out... Pork eater especially.
> > >
> > > http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....nahan-pig-farm
> >
> >
> > Are you the idiot who has been subscribing people to the PETA
newsletter?
> >
> > Dimitri

I guess you don't know how to read either.

What I asked is, "are you the idiot who has been subscribing people to the
PETA newsletter?" That is a simple question that would require a yes or know
answer. Do you understand the question?

Have you been subscribing people other than yourself to their newsletter?

BTW if you fail to understand the question then you are an idiot.

Dimitri

"COTTP" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article >,
> says...
>
> > It's arguable that humans were designed as omnivores. Some of the
lastest
> > research indicates that the substance Neu5Gc in meat/dairy products may
be
> > linked to diseases such as heart disease and diabetes. The presence of
these
> > molelules triggers an auto-immune response that causes systemic
inflammation
> > and is thought to contribute to various diseases in the long term.
>
> Whereas the length of the human gut is ideally suited to digest both
> meat and vegetable matter.
>
> Regarding heart disease and diabetes - many other things have had the
> finger pointed at them in the past. Remember eggs?

Sure, nothing's definitive. Medical science constantly advises the general
public based on current knowledge and understanding, which is always subject
to change. Still it's not a reason to disregard their advice because it
happens to disagree with your lifestyle.

> I believe that part of the auto-immune problems are due to hormones they
> inject into the animals, not the animals themselves.

Yeah, I didn't even get into the issues of feeding antibiotics, steroids,
growth hormones, etc. to livestock to bring them to market faster. NOt to
mention e-coli, salmonella, trichinosis, listeriosis and other bacterial
infections. More good reasons to avoid meat products.

"Marcelino" > wrote:

> Please examine what we do to animals on factory farms and in
> slaughterhouses, denying animals everything that is natural to them and
then
> killing them in gruesome ways, and try to tell me that this is moral.
Nature
> 's law is, without a doubt, Darwin's "survival of the fittest." Some
animals
> may procreate by rape; other animals may fight territorial battles to the
> death. But we hold ourselves to a higher standard in our interactions with
> one another. We even hold ourselves to a higher standard with regard to
> animals we often form special bonds with, such as dogs and cats-readily
> granting them some basic protections. What animal welfare advocates
suggest
> is that we should also be compassionate toward all animals.

Do you assume that factory farms producing vegetables do not harm animals? I
would think that they do and in great numbers. Machines used to both prepare
the land as well as harvest the food can do a lot of damage to the animal
population in a field. Never mind pesticides used in non-organic farming. Of
course most of these animals are little things like lizards, rodents,
snakes, etc. that we don't like anyway and we can't easily get video of them
being ripped apart or exposed to predators when we destroy their cover.

The point I'm trying to make is that if any of us choose to live in modern
society, vegetarian or not, we are killing animals. It's next to impossible
to avoid. Probably the way we could kill the least number of animals in our
diet, without growing it all ourselves, would be to add hunted meats to our
menu. Of course, there are plenty of other things we use in day to day life
that cause the death of animals.

-Mike

In article >,
c says...
> Ya ever notice, these PETA people never put their cameras down and try to stop
> whatever supposed cruelty they are filming?
> Nope, they just keep on filming, and when either all the animals are dead or
> they run out of film, they leave to film another day.

Because I suspect if they actually spoke up they'd be subject to the
bolt treatment. Not that this strikes me as particularly wrong mind you.
But in their mind they have to live to see the fight to the end.

In article >,
says...

> It's arguable that humans were designed as omnivores. Some of the lastest
> research indicates that the substance Neu5Gc in meat/dairy products may be
> linked to diseases such as heart disease and diabetes. The presence of these
> molelules triggers an auto-immune response that causes systemic inflammation
> and is thought to contribute to various diseases in the long term.

Whereas the length of the human gut is ideally suited to digest both
meat and vegetable matter.

Regarding heart disease and diabetes - many other things have had the
finger pointed at them in the past. Remember eggs?

I believe that part of the auto-immune problems are due to hormones they
inject into the animals, not the animals themselves.

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:22:29 GMT, "Marcelino"
> wrote:

>Please examine what we do to animals on factory farms and in
>slaughterhouses, denying animals everything that is natural to them

What we do to animals is to restrict their movements. If they were
thinking beings that might be a problem. But they are not. Other then
that the human feed & water them and keep them alive longer then if
they had been in the wild.

> and then
>killing them in gruesome ways,

If the bolt gun is used properly the death is instantaneous, without
pain. (Death would occur before the pain was felt. )

>and try to tell me that this is moral.

Yes. What is immoral is mans actions towards other men. If one person
dies because an animal is to live, that is immoral

>What animal welfare advocates suggest
>is that we should also be compassionate toward all animals.
>
No what animal welfare advocates, (those that I know), are saying is
that "I'm holier then thou". Not knowing that they look foolish.

If you can tell me that you have never killed an animal,( including
bugs, rats, snake, ect.) then you can preach.

Oh and instead of throwing paint on a little old ladies' fur, throw it
on a biker's leather. Then you can talk.

Pan Ohco

Marcelino wrote:
>
>
> And if we're eating meat,
> dairy products, or eggs, we're intentionally causing suffering, for no good
> reason
>

Eggs? EGGS??? For cripes sake, chickens and other fowl
lay eggs whether anyone eats the eggs or not. You'd have
to listen REALLY hard to hear an egg cry out in pain.

gloria p

"Marcelino" > wrote in message
.com...
> Why do you have to show everyone how stupid you really are by saying such
> ignorant things.

A question:
Are you a vegan?

-Hound

In article >, Puester
> writes:

>Marcelino wrote:
>>
>>
>> And if we're eating meat,
>> dairy products, or eggs, we're intentionally causing suffering, for no good
>> reason
>>
>
>
>
>Eggs? EGGS??? For cripes sake, chickens and other fowl
>lay eggs whether anyone eats the eggs or not. You'd have
>to listen REALLY hard to hear an egg cry out in pain.

<SUB>mama....</SUB>

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"Mike Pearce" > wrote
> Do you assume that factory farms producing vegetables do not harm animals?
I
> would think that they do and in great numbers. Machines used to both
prepare
> the land as well as harvest the food can do a lot of damage to the animal
> population in a field.
[...]

Good points Mike, you forgot about all the animals killed generating the
electricity this wacko needs to post on Usenet. And how the dye in his
clothes was bonded to the fabric.

-Hound

James McIninch wrote:

> How come there's no PETV -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables?
> A pig's got a fighting chance to run away, but a carrot's pretty much
> stuck. Sure, the noise a carrot makes when under stress is too low
> frequency for human ears to hear, but that doesn't make them any less
> alive.
>
> Vegetables are slaughtered by the ton each year. Cruelly uprooted, sometimes
> decapitated, often eaten and cooked alive... They are frequently raised in
> densely populated fields, and some are repeatedly doused with the feces of
> cattle. Can you imagine?
>
> You're a hypocrite if you pan the consumption of animals yet still support
> the slaughter of vegatation. It's omnivory or autotrophy, anything else is
> just a sad delusion.
>
> (Incidentally, that's tongue and cheek, all).

I've actually seen studies where they used ecg machines on plants with startling
results. They took two plants that were grown side by side; they "knew " each
other. Then, they sent a number of people into the room to "visit" the plants,
but the last one had instructions to destroy one of the plants. They then hooked
the ecg up to the remaining plant. As each of the people re-visited the
remaining plant, no matter what order they were sent in, the remaining plant
"knew" which one killed it's "friend" and it showed unmistakably on the ecg!

In another incident, a plant detected the researcher merely thinking of burning
a leaf with a lighter. This wasn't even intended to be a test; he was just
thinking of what tests he could do while it happened to be hooked up to the ecg.

In another study, they used an ecg on cups of yogurt. They fed one (sugar) while
they starved the other, and they monitored both on the ecg. When one was fed,
the other showed a reaction ("desire") to the first being fed. Granted, yogurt
is not a single plant, but a colony of culture.

So, there's more to plants and living cultures than people think!

Gary

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"C. James Strutz" wrote:

> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > "C. James Strutz" wrote:
> >
> > > "Richard Periut" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Marcelino wrote:
> > > > > You really need to check this out... Pork eater especially.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....nahan-pig-farm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > A video which portrays a few sick and frustrated freaks, doesn't stand
> > > > as the standard for killing pigs in the pork industry.
> > > >
> > > > It's just amazing the way these hypocrites try to raise awareness of
> > > > animal suffering, without shedding an iota of evidence to human
> > > > suffering; the children dying of hunger and *Curable* diseases in
> > > > Africa, India, et cetera.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure these people, with their cotton candy lives, driving their
> > > > BMW's, and drinking California wine, would rather see a whale, a pig,
> a
> > > > chicken, or a mink saved, before 10 human children can be fed and
> healed.
> > >
> > > Raising livestock as a food source is a huge inefficiency of resources.
> The
> > > amount of grain used to feed livestock could feed many times the number
> of
> > > people than the meat could feed. Livestock also consume huge amounts of
> > > fresh water which is in short supply in many parts of the world. And the
> > > pork industry, in particular, is a major producer of hazerdous waste.
> > > Furthermore, many of the hungry people of the world couldn't afford to
> buy
> > > meat even if you could get it to them easily (it must be refrigerated).
> It's
> > > the meat eaters of the world who are contributing more to world
> hunger...
> >
> > Most, if not all these problems could be turned against themselves and
> turned
> > into solutions, if only people would think. For example, pig waste can be
> used
> > to produce massive amounts of free methane (and is being used to do so in
> other
> > countries).
>
> I'll give you that methane could be extracted from animal waste (though far
> less efficiently than extracting energy directly from grain, biomass, etc.),
> but it still doesn't address the concerns of producing and transporting
> enough food to feed the world's hungry.
>
> > Simply blaming the fact that man was designed as carnivores as well
> > as herbivores (omnivorous), is not a solution, but is part of the problem.
>
> It's arguable that humans were designed as omnivores. Some of the lastest
> research indicates that the substance Neu5Gc in meat/dairy products may be
> linked to diseases such as heart disease and diabetes. The presence of these
> molelules triggers an auto-immune response that causes systemic inflammation
> and is thought to contribute to various diseases in the long term.

It's all in the teeth. We have meat eating teeth (as well as vegetable eating
teeth).

Gary

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"Dave W." wrote:

> In article >,
> "C. James Strutz" > wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >
> > Raising livestock as a food source is a huge inefficiency of resources. The
> > amount of grain used to feed livestock could feed many times the number of
> > people than the meat could feed. Livestock also consume huge amounts of
> > fresh water which is in short supply in many parts of the world. And the
> > pork industry, in particular, is a major producer of hazerdous waste.
> > Furthermore, many of the hungry people of the world couldn't afford to buy
> > meat even if you could get it to them easily (it must be refrigerated). It's
> > the meat eaters of the world who are contributing more to world hunger...
> >
> Read Malthus. Sounds to me like the problem is over population (whatever
> happened to the zero-growth folks?) I will not lower the quality of my
> life so we can stuff another few billion souls on this already
> overburdoned planet.
>
> I've lived a rather long and productive life. However I intentionally
> didn't produce children so that we earthlings could afford to grow a few
> more cows.
>
> Regards,
> Dave (pass the gravy) W.
>
> --
> Living in the Ozarks. For email, dot edu will do!

Indeed! I don't make children and I don't drive vehicles, so *I* am entitles to a
pork chop now and then!

)

Gary

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In article >,
"Marcelino" > wrote:
>You really need to check this out... Pork eater especially.
>
>http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....nahan-pig-farm

Oh, PeTA. Bugger off, nutjob.

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Puester wrote:
>
> Marcelino wrote:

> > And if we're eating meat,
> > dairy products, or eggs, we're intentionally causing suffering, for no good
> > reason

> Eggs? EGGS??? For cripes sake, chickens and other fowl
> lay eggs whether anyone eats the eggs or not. You'd have
> to listen REALLY hard to hear an egg cry out in pain.

(laughing) Maybe he thinks he's eating fertilized eggs? Perhaps
he is but ... I doubt it.

nancy

LOL...you just can't handle the truth...do you actually think that your
subject line response was recessary.Well,with that bird brain of yours,,I
guess thats all that you could come up with.Try harder next time,You can do
better can't you>>>>You are a sorry excuse for a person.I feel sorry 4 you
in a way..

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> Subject: Penmart01) If You Eat Pork of any kind
> From: "Marcelino" >
> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:27:10 GMT
>
> In article >,
"Marcelino"
> > writes:
>
> >Don't plants feel pain?
>
> Yep, you... a dumb potato head... now go impale your stinky butthole on a
> thorny berry cane, PEA brain.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> Sheldon
> ````````````
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>

Can't you read moron..Clearly my answer is in what I had written.It Takes
someone with some sort of brains to break it down and understand it I
guess...DO you need help Understanding what I just wrote You Moron...

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Marcelino" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > I dont know who you refer when calling and Idiot,But all I had done was
> > posted a link and you guys done the rest..........
> > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > >
> > > "Marcelino" > wrote in message
> > > .com...
> > > > You really need to check this out... Pork eater especially.
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....nahan-pig-farm
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you the idiot who has been subscribing people to the PETA
> newsletter?
> > >
> > > Dimitri
>
> I guess you don't know how to read either.
>
> What I asked is, "are you the idiot who has been subscribing people to the
> PETA newsletter?" That is a simple question that would require a yes or
know
> answer. Do you understand the question?
>
> Have you been subscribing people other than yourself to their newsletter?
>
> BTW if you fail to understand the question then you are an idiot.
>
> Dimitri
>
>

Hark! I heard "Mike Pearce" > say:

<snip>
> most of these animals are little things like lizards, rodents,
> snakes, etc. that we don't like anyway

This isn't aimed at Mike or anyone in particular:

We've wandered far afield here (imagine that!), but I did want
to put in a good word for non-poisonous snakes & spiders, as well
as lizards and bats. These are great critters with bad reputatons;
they help keep the bug population under control and generally are
not a hazard to us. I'm terrified of spiders, but I don't kill them,
I gently move them outside of the house. I'd much rather have these
animals around than a swarm of mosquitos (yuck!).

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now... ;-)

--
j*ni p. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~
...fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum!

Hark! I heard say:
> Marcelino wrote:

> > And if we're eating meat,
> > dairy products, or eggs, we're intentionally causing suffering, for no good
> > reason

> Eggs? EGGS??? For cripes sake, chickens and other fowl
> lay eggs whether anyone eats the eggs or not. You'd have
> to listen REALLY hard to hear an egg cry out in pain.

I think the reasoning (if you can call it that) behind this is
that the chicken suffers when its eggs are taken away...

--
j*ni p. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~
...fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum!

In article >, "Cuchulain Libby"
> writes:

>"Marcelino" > wrote in message
y.com...
>> Why do you have to show everyone how stupid you really are by saying such
>> ignorant things.
>
>A question:
>Are you a vegan?

Actually he's another of those dumb guinea *******s... ahahahahahahaha. . .

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In article >,
(j*ni p.) writes:

>Hark! I heard say:
>> Marcelino wrote:<---WOP MOTHER****ER

>
>> > And if we're eating meat,
>> > dairy products, or eggs, we're intentionally causing suffering, for no
>good
>> > reason
>
>> Eggs? EGGS??? For cripes sake, chickens and other fowl
>> lay eggs whether anyone eats the eggs or not. You'd have
>> to listen REALLY hard to hear an egg cry out in pain.
>
>I think the reasoning (if you can call it that) behind this is
>that the chicken suffers when its eggs are taken away...
>
>
>--
>j*ni p. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~
> ...fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum!
>

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In article >, "Marcelino"
> writes:

>"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
>> Subject: Penmart01) If You Eat Pork of any kind
>> From: "Marcelino" >
>> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:27:10 GMT
>>
>> In article >,
>"Marcelino"<---WOP MOTHER****ER

>> > writes:
>>
>> >Don't plants feel pain?
>>
>> Yep, you... a dumb potato head... now go impale your stinky butthole on a
>> thorny berry cane, PEA brain.

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In article >, "Marcelino"
> writes:

>"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
>> Subject: Penmart01) If You Eat Pork of any kind
>> From: "Marcelino" >
>> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:27:10 GMT
>>
>> In article >,
>"Marcelino"<---WOP MOTHER****ER

>> > writes:
>>
>> >Don't plants feel pain?
>>
>> Yep, you... a dumb potato head... now go impale your stinky butthole on a
>> thorny berry cane, PEA brain.

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In article >, "Marcelino"
> writes:

>"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
>> Subject: Penmart01) If You Eat Pork of any kind
>> From: "Marcelino" >
>> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:27:10 GMT
>>
>> In article >,
>"Marcelino"<---WOP MOTHER****ER

>> > writes:
>>
>> >Don't plants feel pain?
>>
>> Yep, you... a dumb potato head... now go impale your stinky butthole on a
>> thorny berry cane, PEA brain.

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In article >, (Mark Shaw)
writes:

>In article >,

>"Marcelino"<---WOP MOTHER****ER

>>You really need to check this out... Pork eater especially.
>>
>>http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....nahan-pig-farm
>
>Oh, PeTA. Bugger off, nutjob.
>
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