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Yesterday, we had six of the best artichokes any of us has ever had.
They were the "frost-kissed", ugly ones -- 39 cents each. True joy.

Then I read here that they may be disappearing for a while, so we went
today and bought a dozen more. Four for Carin to take up to her
Dad's, four for us to eat, and four to make into an
artichoke-heart-avocado spread that James likes but has never made for
us.

Mmmmmm, artichokes!

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Serene said...

> Mmmmmm, artichokes!



Yepper! As much as the bread-and-butter kid I was growing up, nothing got me
to the dinner table faster than artichokes.

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"Serene" > wrote

> Yesterday, we had six of the best artichokes any of us has ever had.
> They were the "frost-kissed", ugly ones -- 39 cents each. True joy.
>
> Then I read here that they may be disappearing for a while, so we went
> today and bought a dozen more.


Uh oh, I was looking at some today and decided against them,
I should have grabbed a couple, you say?

> Four for Carin to take up to her
> Dad's, four for us to eat, and four to make into an
> artichoke-heart-avocado spread that James likes but has never made for
> us.


Oh, that sounds good.

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>"Serene" > wrote
>
>> Yesterday, we had six of the best artichokes any of us has ever had.
>> They were the "frost-kissed", ugly ones -- 39 cents each. True joy.
>>
>> Then I read here that they may be disappearing for a while, so we went
>> today and bought a dozen more.

>
>Uh oh, I was looking at some today and decided against them,
>I should have grabbed a couple, you say?


Well, they're yumma, so I'm not gonna discourage you. :-)

>
>> Four for Carin to take up to her
>> Dad's, four for us to eat, and four to make into an
>> artichoke-heart-avocado spread that James likes but has never made for
>> us.

>
>Oh, that sounds good.


I'll let y'all know.

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:42:08 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
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>"Serene" > wrote


>> Then I read here that they may be disappearing for a while, so we went
>> today and bought a dozen more.

>
>Uh oh, I was looking at some today and decided against them,
>I should have grabbed a couple, you say?


Yes.
California is having a VERY big freeze right now..and one of the areas
that is being affected is the area where most artichokes are grown.

Prices on a lot of things may be going up, and supplies of your
favorite California produce may be scarce to non-existant.

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> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:42:08 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:


>>Uh oh, I was looking at some today and decided against them,
>>I should have grabbed a couple, you say?

>
> Yes.
> California is having a VERY big freeze right now..and one of the areas
> that is being affected is the area where most artichokes are grown.


Gotcha. Perhaps I'll pick up a bag of frozen hearts while I'm at it.

> Prices on a lot of things may be going up, and supplies of your
> favorite California produce may be scarce to non-existant.


Wonder what else I'm going to miss. Thanks for the head's up.

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:07:48 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
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>"Christine Dabney" > wrote


>
>> Prices on a lot of things may be going up, and supplies of your
>> favorite California produce may be scarce to non-existant.

>
>Wonder what else I'm going to miss. Thanks for the head's up.
>
>nancy
>


Here is an article from the L.A. Times... You have to register to see
the article.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...iewed-homepage

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In article >,
Christine Dabney > wrote:

> California is having a VERY big freeze right now..and one of the areas
> that is being affected is the area where most artichokes are grown.
>
> Prices on a lot of things may be going up, and supplies of your
> favorite California produce may be scarce to non-existant.


Before the big freeze, and across the line in Nevada where we are having
chilly weather (it got up to twenty eight today), nice artichokes were
two bucks apiece last week at Raley's. That seemed a bit steep. I subbed
a sixty cent can of green beans for her birthday, and she was none the
wiser. I added salt, pepper and a couple of dabs of margarine and
microwaved it. It was excellent for the price.
She did get homemade pork(ham) fried rice with shrimp, cheese and
parsley stuffed won-tons to go with it. I'm not that bad a guy.

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Serene wrote:
> Yesterday, we had six of the best artichokes any of us has ever had.
> They were the "frost-kissed", ugly ones -- 39 cents each. True joy.
>
> Then I read here that they may be disappearing for a while, so we went
> today and bought a dozen more. Four for Carin to take up to her
> Dad's, four for us to eat, and four to make into an
> artichoke-heart-avocado spread that James likes but has never made for
> us.
>
> Mmmmmm, artichokes!
>
> Serene
> --
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>
> http://serenejournal.livejournal.com


When I was a child, it was a real treat when Mom would make steamed
artichokes (steamed with lemon water) with a lemony hollandaise. SO
good!

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Serene > wrote:

> Yesterday, we had six of the best artichokes any of us has ever had.
> They were the "frost-kissed", ugly ones -- 39 cents each. True joy.
>
> Then I read here that they may be disappearing for a while, so we went
> today and bought a dozen more. Four for Carin to take up to her
> Dad's, four for us to eat, and four to make into an
> artichoke-heart-avocado spread that James likes but has never made for
> us.
>
> Mmmmmm, artichokes!
>
> Serene


Ooh yeah!

I'll have to go looksee. I've not had an artichoke for a few months now.
:-)

I just steam them and then use a lime based mayo dip.

Gods I love those things!

How do _you_ serve them?
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"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "Christine Dabney" > wrote
>
> > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:42:08 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
> > wrote:

>
> >>Uh oh, I was looking at some today and decided against them,
> >>I should have grabbed a couple, you say?

> >
> > Yes.
> > California is having a VERY big freeze right now..and one of the areas
> > that is being affected is the area where most artichokes are grown.

>
> Gotcha. Perhaps I'll pick up a bag of frozen hearts while I'm at it.


Frozen hearts????
What brand?

I've only ever seen canned! I'd be _very_ interested in frozen artichoke
hearts!

>
> > Prices on a lot of things may be going up, and supplies of your
> > favorite California produce may be scarce to non-existant.

>
> Wonder what else I'm going to miss. Thanks for the head's up.
>
> nancy

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:13:14 -0600, Omelet >
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>Gods I love those things!
>
>How do _you_ serve them?


We steam (boil) them, and then James and I dip them in
butter/margarine, and Carin dips them in mayo. I also like them
perfectly well unadorned, and then the next day I like to eat them
cold, usually with a little mayo.

Mmmmmm.

They're almost done cooking. I love the smell.

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>Frozen hearts????
>What brand?


I think a more pointed question is "where"?

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Omelet said...

> Frozen hearts????
> What brand?
>
> I've only ever seen canned! I'd be _very_ interested in frozen artichoke
> hearts!



Trader Joe's sells bags of frozen hearts but they turned out to be more
leaves than hearts. The BUMS!!! I trimmed them down to hardly end up with
much heart of artichoke.

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In article >,
Serene > wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:13:14 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> [artichokes]
>
> >Gods I love those things!
> >
> >How do _you_ serve them?

>
> We steam (boil) them, and then James and I dip them in
> butter/margarine, and Carin dips them in mayo. I also like them
> perfectly well unadorned, and then the next day I like to eat them
> cold, usually with a little mayo.
>
> Mmmmmm.
>
> They're almost done cooking. I love the smell.
>
> Serene


Dammit, now you've set me a craving. :-)

I've not eaten artichokes for at least a couple of months.
They've been too expensive!
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> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:25:02 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >Frozen hearts????
> >What brand?

>
> I think a more pointed question is "where"?


True. <G>
I _can_ get them canned, but that's not preferred!
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In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Omelet said...
>
> > Frozen hearts????
> > What brand?
> >
> > I've only ever seen canned! I'd be _very_ interested in frozen artichoke
> > hearts!

>
>
> Trader Joe's sells bags of frozen hearts but they turned out to be more
> leaves than hearts. The BUMS!!! I trimmed them down to hardly end up with
> much heart of artichoke.
>
> Andy


Hm. Sounds like the canned ones. :-(
I may as well buy fresh.

Artichoke heart on pizza is to die for.

Not that I eat a lot of pizza...

but I've got 8 dozen free range eggs in the 'frige that I got from my
New Years hosts. I'm planning on making some frittatas and artichoke
heart is excellent for that.
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Omelet said...
>>

> Hm. Sounds like the canned ones. :-(
> I may as well buy fresh.
>
> Artichoke heart on pizza is to die for.
>


Artichokes, sun dried tomatoes and kalmata olives pizza with feta! Yeah,
that's the ticket!

kili <---- who done flung a craving on herself, darn it!


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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Serene > wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, we had six of the best artichokes any of us has ever had.
>> They were the "frost-kissed", ugly ones -- 39 cents each. True joy.
>>
>> Then I read here that they may be disappearing for a while, so we
>> went today and bought a dozen more. Four for Carin to take up to her
>> Dad's, four for us to eat, and four to make into an
>> artichoke-heart-avocado spread that James likes but has never made
>> for us.
>>
>> Mmmmmm, artichokes!
>>
>> Serene

>
> Ooh yeah!
>
> I'll have to go looksee. I've not had an artichoke for a few months
> now. :-)
>
> I just steam them and then use a lime based mayo dip.
>
> Gods I love those things!
>
> How do _you_ serve them?


Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I guess you
could do an aioli.

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"kilikini" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet said...
> >>

> > Hm. Sounds like the canned ones. :-(
> > I may as well buy fresh.
> >
> > Artichoke heart on pizza is to die for.
> >

>
> Artichokes, sun dried tomatoes and kalmata olives pizza with feta! Yeah,
> that's the ticket!
>
> kili <---- who done flung a craving on herself, darn it!


Oh.... Dudette, ya done given the same to me! <lol>
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In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Serene > wrote:
> >
> >> Yesterday, we had six of the best artichokes any of us has ever had.
> >> They were the "frost-kissed", ugly ones -- 39 cents each. True joy.
> >>
> >> Then I read here that they may be disappearing for a while, so we
> >> went today and bought a dozen more. Four for Carin to take up to her
> >> Dad's, four for us to eat, and four to make into an
> >> artichoke-heart-avocado spread that James likes but has never made
> >> for us.
> >>
> >> Mmmmmm, artichokes!
> >>
> >> Serene

> >
> > Ooh yeah!
> >
> > I'll have to go looksee. I've not had an artichoke for a few months
> > now. :-)
> >
> > I just steam them and then use a lime based mayo dip.
> >
> > Gods I love those things!
> >
> > How do _you_ serve them?

>
> Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
> Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I guess you
> could do an aioli.
>
> kili


I've honestly never had baked artichokes. All my life, mom always
pressure cooked them for 10 to 15 minutes.

Might be time to expand my horizons. :-)

As for tenderness, I always pick the artichokes with the thickest stems.
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Omelet said...

> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>> > In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Omelet said...
>> >>
>> > Hm. Sounds like the canned ones. :-(
>> > I may as well buy fresh.
>> >
>> > Artichoke heart on pizza is to die for.
>> >

>>
>> Artichokes, sun dried tomatoes and kalmata olives pizza with feta!

Yeah,
>> that's the ticket!
>>
>> kili <---- who done flung a craving on herself, darn it!

>
> Oh.... Dudette, ya done given the same to me! <lol>



Well, if you'll permit me, take an arm, lucky ladies and lets find us an
artichoke satisfaction ASAP!

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In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Omelet said...
>
> > In article >,
> > "kilikini" > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >> > In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Omelet said...
> >> >>
> >> > Hm. Sounds like the canned ones. :-(
> >> > I may as well buy fresh.
> >> >
> >> > Artichoke heart on pizza is to die for.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Artichokes, sun dried tomatoes and kalmata olives pizza with feta!

> Yeah,
> >> that's the ticket!
> >>
> >> kili <---- who done flung a craving on herself, darn it!

> >
> > Oh.... Dudette, ya done given the same to me! <lol>

>
>
> Well, if you'll permit me, take an arm, lucky ladies and lets find us an
> artichoke satisfaction ASAP!
>
> Andy


Andy,

What are you drinking????

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Andy wrote:
> Omelet said...
>
>> In article >,
>> "kilikini" > wrote:
>>
>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Omelet said...
>>>>>
>>>> Hm. Sounds like the canned ones. :-(
>>>> I may as well buy fresh.
>>>>
>>>> Artichoke heart on pizza is to die for.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Artichokes, sun dried tomatoes and kalmata olives pizza with feta!
>>> Yeah, that's the ticket!
>>>
>>> kili <---- who done flung a craving on herself, darn it!

>>
>> Oh.... Dudette, ya done given the same to me! <lol>

>
>
> Well, if you'll permit me, take an arm, lucky ladies and lets find us
> an artichoke satisfaction ASAP!
>
> Andy


Sounds like a plan! :~)

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> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Omelet said...
>>
>> > In article >,
>> > "kilikini" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Omelet wrote:
>> >> > In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Omelet said...
>> >> >>
>> >> > Hm. Sounds like the canned ones. :-(
>> >> > I may as well buy fresh.
>> >> >
>> >> > Artichoke heart on pizza is to die for.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Artichokes, sun dried tomatoes and kalmata olives pizza with feta!

>> Yeah,
>> >> that's the ticket!
>> >>
>> >> kili <---- who done flung a craving on herself, darn it!
>> >
>> > Oh.... Dudette, ya done given the same to me! <lol>

>>
>>
>> Well, if you'll permit me, take an arm, lucky ladies and lets find us an
>> artichoke satisfaction ASAP!
>>
>> Andy

>
> Andy,
>
> What are you drinking????
>
>:-)


Listerine.


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> > Andy,
> >
> > What are you drinking????
> >
> >:-)

>
> Listerine.


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>What are you drinking????



He's watching football. Take a wild guess! He's a happy man right
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>Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
>Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I guess you
>could do an aioli.


Baked? In spite of having to the opportunity to eat artichokes until
they out my ears, I just never veer from steamed because they are so
darned good that way. Are these fresh, frozen or canned artichokes
you're talking about? If I started with prepared artichoke hearts....
I'd give it a try sometime.

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> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:39:45 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >What are you drinking????

>
>
> He's watching football. Take a wild guess! He's a happy man right
> now.


<lol>

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> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:34:42 -0500, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
> >Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
> >Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I guess you
> >could do an aioli.

>
> Baked? In spite of having to the opportunity to eat artichokes until
> they out my ears, I just never veer from steamed because they are so
> darned good that way. Are these fresh, frozen or canned artichokes
> you're talking about? If I started with prepared artichoke hearts....
> I'd give it a try sometime.


I've always steamed or pressure cooked,
but baked properly might work as long as they don't dry out?
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Kili wrote:

> Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
> Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I guess you
> could do an aioli.


Try halving them lengthwise, trimming out the choke and tough leaves until
only the edible part remains, dipping in an egg-milk mixture, rolling in
that mixture of garlic, parmesan, and breadcrumbs, then deep-frying them.
Serve with a poached or sunny-side-up egg on top.

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>
>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:34:42 -0500, "kilikini"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
>> >Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I guess you
>> >could do an aioli.

>>
>> Baked? In spite of having to the opportunity to eat artichokes until
>> they out my ears, I just never veer from steamed because they are so
>> darned good that way. Are these fresh, frozen or canned artichokes
>> you're talking about? If I started with prepared artichoke hearts....
>> I'd give it a try sometime.

>
>I've always steamed or pressure cooked,
>but baked properly might work as long as they don't dry out?


I think baking may imply precooking first, but I don't know because
I've never tried it.

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> Kili wrote:
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> > Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
> > Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I guess you
> > could do an aioli.

>
> Try halving them lengthwise, trimming out the choke and tough leaves until
> only the edible part remains, dipping in an egg-milk mixture, rolling in
> that mixture of garlic, parmesan, and breadcrumbs, then deep-frying them.
> Serve with a poached or sunny-side-up egg on top.
>
> Bob


Oh my god that sounds good!

I'd probably go with canned for that tho', otherwise I'd feel I was
wasting too much. :-)
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> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:13:03 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
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> >In article >, sf wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:34:42 -0500, "kilikini"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
> >> >Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I guess you
> >> >could do an aioli.
> >>
> >> Baked? In spite of having to the opportunity to eat artichokes until
> >> they out my ears, I just never veer from steamed because they are so
> >> darned good that way. Are these fresh, frozen or canned artichokes
> >> you're talking about? If I started with prepared artichoke hearts....
> >> I'd give it a try sometime.

> >
> >I've always steamed or pressure cooked,
> >but baked properly might work as long as they don't dry out?

>
> I think baking may imply precooking first, but I don't know because
> I've never tried it.


Ok. :-)

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, sf wrote:
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>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:13:03 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:34:42 -0500, "kilikini"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and
>>>>> breadcrumbs? Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more
>>>>> flavor, or I guess you could do an aioli.
>>>>
>>>> Baked? In spite of having to the opportunity to eat artichokes
>>>> until they out my ears, I just never veer from steamed because
>>>> they are so darned good that way. Are these fresh, frozen or
>>>> canned artichokes you're talking about? If I started with
>>>> prepared artichoke hearts.... I'd give it a try sometime.
>>>
>>> I've always steamed or pressure cooked,
>>> but baked properly might work as long as they don't dry out?

>>
>> I think baking may imply precooking first, but I don't know because
>> I've never tried it.

>
> Ok. :-)
>
> <taps food impatiently waiting for Kili to post her method...>


Sorry! I think what I've done in the past (I did this many years ago) was
put about an inch of water in my baking dish, set the oven to 350 and let it
roast for about an hour. (You could roast garlic at that time, too - just
not for that long!) Then pull the artichoke apart a bit, drizzle in the
garlic butter, toss some freshly grated parmesan in the gaps, sprinkle on
some breadcrumbs and broil until the breadcrumbs brown.

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Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Kili wrote:
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>> Ever tried baking them with garlic, parmesan, butter and breadcrumbs?
>> Delish! Dip them in a garlic butter sauce for more flavor, or I
>> guess you could do an aioli.

>
> Try halving them lengthwise, trimming out the choke and tough leaves
> until only the edible part remains, dipping in an egg-milk mixture,
> rolling in that mixture of garlic, parmesan, and breadcrumbs, then
> deep-frying them. Serve with a poached or sunny-side-up egg on top.
>
> Bob


Drooooool.................... I'm going to have to try that. Thanks!

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"kilikini" > wrote:

> >> I think baking may imply precooking first, but I don't know because
> >> I've never tried it.

> >
> > Ok. :-)
> >
> > <taps food impatiently waiting for Kili to post her method...>

>
> Sorry! I think what I've done in the past (I did this many years ago) was
> put about an inch of water in my baking dish, set the oven to 350 and let it
> roast for about an hour. (You could roast garlic at that time, too - just
> not for that long!) Then pull the artichoke apart a bit, drizzle in the
> garlic butter, toss some freshly grated parmesan in the gaps, sprinkle on
> some breadcrumbs and broil until the breadcrumbs brown.
>
> kili


Huh! That sounds yummy, thanks!
It'd probably work well in the table top oven.
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