I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.

Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.

I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?

I'm sure no one here would do that.

nancy

Nancy Young said...

> Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?


A little deep this early in the a.m.?!!

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote

> Nancy Young said...
>
>> Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?

> A little deep this early in the a.m.?!!

Noted: Andy puts his lettuce right in the sink.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote on 31 Jan 2007 in rec.food.cooking

> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>
> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> I'm sure no one here would do that.
>
> nancy
>
>
>

The inside bowl of my salad spinner comes out...I wash 'light weight'
veggies in it then spin them dry.

For things like potatoes or carrots ...I wash them under running
water...they never leave my hand and I've got a dedicated to veggies 3M
scrubbie that I use to help wash them. They go in a colander to drain
dry.

Nancy Young wrote:
> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.


Well, first off.. I use my large salad spinner to soak lettuce before
dumping the water out and spinning it. It saves a step. I even will lift
the basket of lettuce out and carry the spinner bowl out to my porch to
water the plants with to conserve water. But I'm not deathly afraid of
my sink. I routinely wash it or wipe it out and as needed wash down with
a dilute bleach solution, especially washing my chicken under the
running faucet.
My dishes don't usually go into the sink but rather directly into the
dishwasher.

Nancy Young said...

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote
>
>> Nancy Young said...
>>
>>> Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
>> A little deep this early in the a.m.?!!
>
> Noted: Andy puts his lettuce right in the sink.
>
> nancy


DOES NOT!!! (smile)

The kitchen sink came with a fitted plastic food-prep carving board with a
cutaway basket for scraps on one side and you can food prep with the faucet
running over stuff if you want.

Andy

"Mr Libido Incognito" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote on 31 Jan 2007 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
>> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
>> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
>> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
>> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.

> The inside bowl of my salad spinner comes out...I wash 'light weight'
> veggies in it then spin them dry.
>
> For things like potatoes or carrots ...I wash them under running
> water...they never leave my hand and I've got a dedicated to veggies 3M
> scrubbie that I use to help wash them. They go in a colander to drain
> dry.

There you go! I have put vegetables into the dish drainer that
is in the second sink, but nothing dirty goes in there. Even that
is a little iffy.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
>I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>
> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> I'm sure no one here would do that.
>
> nancy
my one exception to washing directly in the sink is once a year when washing
the turkey. The sink is scoured first, rinsed out with bleach then rinsed
again. I just don't have a vessel large enough to do the turkey otherwise.
Janet

"Goomba38" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
>> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
>> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.

> Well, first off.. I use my large salad spinner to soak lettuce before
> dumping the water out and spinning it. It saves a step. I even will lift
> the basket of lettuce out and carry the spinner bowl out to my porch to
> water the plants with to conserve water.

Cool.

> But I'm not deathly afraid of my sink. I routinely wash it or wipe it out
> and as needed wash down with a dilute bleach solution, especially washing
> my chicken under the running faucet.

Just after I posted this query, I went downstairs for another cup
of coffee. Tossed the dregs of the previous one into the sink as
I always do. I aim for the drain but not especially careful.

No, I wouldn't want to put clean lettuce on the bottom of my
sink, because no, I don't wash the sink after every time I use it.
Perhaps I'm a slob. Okay, more than perhaps.

> My dishes don't usually go into the sink but rather directly into the
> dishwasher.

I often put dirty stuff in my sink, especially stuff that doesn't go
into the dishwasher, like cutting boards and knives. Heh, and
yesterday I potted a plant in that sink.

I'll just use a bowl for food.

nancy

"Janet B." > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
>> surface when they are washing it?

> my one exception to washing directly in the sink is once a year when
> washing the turkey. The sink is scoured first, rinsed out with bleach
> then rinsed again. I just don't have a vessel large enough to do the
> turkey otherwise.

I hear ya, that is surely an exception.

nancy

"jay" > wrote

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:28:47 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
>> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
>> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
>> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh?

> I don't put any food item directly in the sink..in fact if a food product
> falls into the sink it then falls in the garbage... unless I have
> sanitized
> the sink to wash maybe a bushel of mustard greens.
>
> I always wash the *pre-washed* produce.

Ditto. She was saying don't wash it because you might get salmonella
on it via cross contamination from the chicken you just washed in the
sink. Too early for me, I thought, What?? Took me a second to realize
she meant you would then put your lettuce on the sink bottom. I don't
think so.

Oh, she says don't wash your chicken, either, because you're just
spreading the chicken germs all over when you do that.

nancy

"jay" > wrote

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:28:47 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>Well, DUH.

> Come to think of it.. most of the cooking shows should start and end with
> *well, DUH?

(laugh) Yeah, don't put lettuce on a surface that has chicken germs
on it, that to me is a DUH.

> .. and those morning news show cooking segments are usually about as
> pathetic as the small version of AL Roker doing tasting commentaries.

All the cooking segments are so rushed, seems everyone else is allowed
to go over their segment then there is no time to explain the recipe when
it's the chef's turn. You can find it on our website! Yeah, thanks,
whatever.

Only once did I get a recipe from one of those shows and it was
Good Morning America, as a matter of fact. Joan Lunden was given
time to show her recipe for spicy chicken tortilla soup, being as she
worked there and all. We all know I wrote that one down.

nancy

On Jan 31, 8:28�am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
> about washing produce. *She said, Don't wash the triple washed
> spinach/whatever. *That's because if you wash it in your sink you
> might contaminate it. *I'm thinking ... huh? *Then she talks about,
> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. *Well, DUH.
>
> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
> surface when they are washing it? *Yuck! *Personally, I just wash it
> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>
> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> surface. *Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> I'm sure no one here would do that.

I have a half sink size Rubbermaid dishpan I use for washing veggies.
I have an over size sink, would be way too many gallons to fill that
sink just to wash a few leafy greens. And I wash all produce as soon
as it arrives home from the market, all cleaned *before* it goes into
the fridge. I scrub the entire (5# or 10#) sack of potatoes and leave
them to dry on the counter top on a clean dish towel. During warm
weather I wash most veggies outdoors with a garden hose... I grow my
own and they are very sandy so I wash the sand and mud off outside,
why put it into my septic... and of course the bugs, slugs, and snails
are happier left outside too... I worry when produce contains no
living creatures or substantial evidence thereof.

Sheldon

Nancy wrote:

> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>
> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> I'm sure no one here would do that.

When I get a head of lettuce, I do the Alton Brown trick of separating the
leaves, washing them, then wrapping them in paper towels, stuffing them into
ziploc bags, and extracting as much air as possible before refrigerating
them. It keeps the lettuce a LOT fresher than any other means I've found.
For the step where I wash the leaves, I do use the sink, but I scour and
rinse it very well first. I also clean the sink prior to washing collard
greens, kale, chard, or other leafy greens in it, but at least those greens
are going to get cooked, so even if salmonella *was* lurking there, it'd be
killed by the cooking process.

Bob

Hello, Bob!
You wrote on 31 Jan 2007 09:21:03 -0600:

??>> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America
??>> talking about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the
??>> triple washed spinach/whatever. That's because if you
??>> wash it in your sink you might contaminate it. I'm
??>> thinking ... huh? Then she talks about, if you wash
??>> produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
??>>
??>> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly
??>> on the sink surface when they are washing it? Yuck!
??>> Personally, I just wash it under running water and put it
??>> into a waiting bowl next to the sink.

I had never realized until now that others washed produce
directly in a sink :-) I came to general cooking for myself
rather late and I use a large strainer and the spray setting of
my faucet to wash most vegetables.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
>I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>
> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> I'm sure no one here would do that.
>
> nancy
>


1) Ms. Moulton said don't wash the tripled washed whatever. What about
UNwashed whatever, like unbagged lettuce? Does it matter? If the sink's
filthy, *anything* you wash in it could become contaminated. If you handle
chicken or other raw meat over or in your sink, it should be cleaned
*immediately*, even if you're only planning on washing dishes in the sink
next.

2) Ms. Moulton may have been aiming her advice at people who are too stupid
to clean their sinks before washing food directly in them. This is valid
advice, since we know for a fact that a fixed percentage of people are very
stupid, and that this percentage will probably never change.

3) I wash most greens in the colander. But some, like collards or swiss
chard are simply too big to wash that way. And, it's easier to see where the
dirt is clinging if you do NOT tear the leaves into pieces first. I clean
the sink with Comet. I rinse like crazy until I don't smell Comet any more.
Then, I rinse it again.

This is easy.

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
>> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
>> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
>> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
>> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.

> 1) Ms. Moulton said don't wash the tripled washed whatever. What about
> UNwashed whatever, like unbagged lettuce? Does it matter? If the sink's
> filthy, *anything* you wash in it could become contaminated.

That's when she said to use a bowl. I wish I'd hit record, in retrospect.

> If you handle chicken or other raw meat over or in your sink, it should be
> cleaned *immediately*, even if you're only planning on washing dishes in
> the sink next.

I may be lax about that, but I don't put anything clean in the sink.
Nothing clean touches it. Not dishes. Not food.

Rest assured, I am not holding myself up as some paragon of cleanliness.
I guess that is why the thought of putting clean produce down on in the
sink took me aback.

> 2) Ms. Moulton may have been aiming her advice at people who are too
> stupid to clean their sinks before washing food directly in them.

Apparently.

>This is valid advice, since we know for a fact that a fixed percentage of
>people are very stupid, and that this percentage will probably never
>change.

(laugh) You sound like my fil.

> 3) I wash most greens in the colander. But some, like collards or swiss
> chard are simply too big to wash that way. And, it's easier to see where
> the dirt is clinging if you do NOT tear the leaves into pieces first.

Oh, I never do that. I cut off the bottom and wash the individual leaves
under running water. Probably kidding myself even then.

> I clean the sink with Comet. I rinse like crazy until I don't smell Comet
> any more. Then, I rinse it again.

Comet. Ack. Stuff gives me the willies.

nancy

On Jan 31, 5:28 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>
> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> I'm sure no one here would do that.
>
> nancy
When I was doing prep work, one of the restaurants would toss big
batches of salad in the sink. I always made sure to clean the sink
first, but I saw some who didn't do as good of a job as I did- Yuk

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote
>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>>I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
>>> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
>>> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
>>> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
>>> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
>> 1) Ms. Moulton said don't wash the tripled washed whatever. What about
>> UNwashed whatever, like unbagged lettuce? Does it matter? If the sink's
>> filthy, *anything* you wash in it could become contaminated.
>
> That's when she said to use a bowl. I wish I'd hit record, in retrospect.

If you're gonna use a bowl, you may as well use a colander. Why mess up two
utensils?



Watch this video - it'll make you retch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aasov3zTaY




>> 3) I wash most greens in the colander. But some, like collards or swiss
>> chard are simply too big to wash that way. And, it's easier to see where
>> the dirt is clinging if you do NOT tear the leaves into pieces first.
>
> Oh, I never do that. I cut off the bottom and wash the individual leaves
> under running water. Probably kidding myself even then.

I separate the leaves, but I don't make them into smaller pieces until
they're washed.



>
>> I clean the sink with Comet. I rinse like crazy until I don't smell Comet
>> any more. Then, I rinse it again.
>
> Comet. Ack. Stuff gives me the willies.

Why? It's a cleaning product. It works. It disinfects.

"Steve Wertz >" > wrote

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:28:47 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
>> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
>> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> There have been no less than a few studies telling us we'd be
> better off rinsing vegetables in our toilets than our sinks (IOW:
> out toilets have less germs than out kitchen sinks).
>
> So I just throw a colander in the toilet and flush three times.
> Presto - triple washed veggies.

There's an idea. Hey, I'd clean it first. Heh.

nancy

On Jan 31, 11:35�am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Steve Wertz >" > wrote
>
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:28:47 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> >> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> >> surface. *Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> > There have been no less than a few studies telling us we'd be
> > better off rinsing vegetables in our toilets than our sinks (IOW:
> > out toilets have less germs than out kitchen sinks).
>
> > So I just throw a colander in the toilet and flush three times.
> > Presto - triple washed veggies.
>
> There's an idea. *Hey, I'd clean it first. *Heh.
>
> nancy

Only need one flush if your toilet has that blue water.

"Sheldon" > wrote

>On Jan 31, 11:35?am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> "Steve Wertz >" > wrote

>> > There have been no less than a few studies telling us we'd be
>> > better off rinsing vegetables in our toilets than our sinks (IOW:
>> > out toilets have less germs than out kitchen sinks).
>
>> > So I just throw a colander in the toilet and flush three times.
>> > Presto - triple washed veggies.
>
> >There's an idea. Hey, I'd clean it first. Heh.

>Only need one flush if your toilet has that blue water.

Heh, what's for dinner, Mom? Meatloaf and Tidy Bowl surprise.

nancy

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> I may be lax about that, but I don't put anything clean in the sink.
> Nothing clean touches it. Not dishes. Not food.

You aren't really saying that everything in your kitchen is very clean
except your sink, are you? I'm sure I'm missing something here. It's
easy to clean a sink thoroughly. Sometimes I do wash greens in the
sink when I have a huge batch. Easier than several batches in the salad
spinner.
>

> Oh, I never do that. I cut off the bottom and wash the individual leaves
> under running water. Probably kidding myself even then.
>

Where I live it's drought country. Too much water down the drain
washing leaves individually under running water. Not every place has
that issue I guess.

marcella

"Marcella Peek" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> I may be lax about that, but I don't put anything clean in the sink.
>> Nothing clean touches it. Not dishes. Not food.
>
> You aren't really saying that everything in your kitchen is very clean
> except your sink, are you?

Yes. My dishes and bowls, pots and pans, utensils are most
assuredly cleaner than my sink at any given moment.

> I'm sure I'm missing something here. It's
> easy to clean a sink thoroughly. Sometimes I do wash greens in the
> sink when I have a huge batch. Easier than several batches in the salad
> spinner.

At any rate, back to the original issue, you do that right after
washing meat in the same sink?

>> Oh, I never do that. I cut off the bottom and wash the individual leaves
>> under running water. Probably kidding myself even then.

> Where I live it's drought country. Too much water down the drain
> washing leaves individually under running water. Not every place has
> that issue I guess.

You could still put water in a bowl.

nancy

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:28:47 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
>about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
>spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
>might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
>if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
>Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
>surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
>under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>
>I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
>dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
>surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
>I'm sure no one here would do that.

It's not the pit of doom - it's a sink that gets washed out every time
you do the dishes or run a decent amount of water into it...
I'm not afraid to put stuff in it if need be. If there's a lot of
potatoes or carrots or whatever to wash and they're very dirty I'll
put the plug in the sink and run it full of water to soak/scrub them,
and when most of the dirt is off I'll pick them up to rinse off. But
if it's just one or two things I'll wash them in my hand. And if it's
lettuce or something hard to contain it goes into a colander or a bowl
for washing...

(If it's going to contaminate your food just to put it into the sink,
what do you think it does to the dishes that get washed in it every
night?)

merryb wrote:
> On Jan 31, 5:28 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
>> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
>> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
>> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
>> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>>
>> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
>> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
>> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>>
>> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
>> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
>> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>>
>> I'm sure no one here would do that.
>>
>> nancy
> When I was doing prep work, one of the restaurants would toss big
> batches of salad in the sink. I always made sure to clean the sink
> first, but I saw some who didn't do as good of a job as I did- Yuk

You guys are making such a mountain out of this molehill... I've made up
my mind. I've concluded that the majority of you don't know squat about
cleaning and sanitization and thus will never ameliorate your ignorant
squalling fears of dirt and morbidity.

JUST CLEAN YOUR ****ING SINKS! PERIOD!

Clean them, then use them. Then clean them again when you're done and
give them time to DRY before using them again.

And as far as tossing big batches of salad into the sink at the
restaurant goes, I'm assuming that the poster meant the FOOD PREP SINK
rather than the hand washing sink or the ware washing sink. Even so,
once cleaned, a sink is a sink is a sink and, once cleaned, is no more
biologically hazardous than any other prep area in use.

<and NO ONE has mentioned whether or not they wash their hands... before
or after!>

"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
...


> You guys are making such a mountain out of this molehill... I've made up
> my mind. I've concluded that the majority of you don't know squat about
> cleaning and sanitization and thus will never ameliorate your ignorant
> squalling fears of dirt and morbidity.
>
> JUST CLEAN YOUR ****ING SINKS! PERIOD!
> Clean them, then use them. Then clean them again when you're done and give
> them time to DRY before using them again.
>
> And as far as tossing big batches of salad into the sink at the restaurant
> goes, I'm assuming that the poster meant the FOOD PREP SINK rather than
> the hand washing sink or the ware washing sink. Even so, once cleaned, a
> sink is a sink is a sink and, once cleaned, is no more biologically
> hazardous than any other prep area in use.
>
> <and NO ONE has mentioned whether or not they wash their hands... before
> or after!>


Everything's you've written is 100% inarguably correct. However, according
to tradition, this discussion must continue for at least another 100
messages, even if 90 of them repeat what others have already said. Grin and
bear it.

On Jan 31, 9:57 am, Pennyaline > wrote:
> merryb wrote:
> > On Jan 31, 5:28 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> >> I just watched Sara Moulton on Good Morning America talking
> >> about washing produce. She said, Don't wash the triple washed
> >> spinach/whatever. That's because if you wash it in your sink you
> >> might contaminate it. I'm thinking ... huh? Then she talks about,
> >> if you wash produce, better to wash it in a bowl. Well, DUH.
>
> >> Is this a common thing, do people put their food directly on the sink
> >> surface when they are washing it? Yuck! Personally, I just wash it
> >> under running water and put it into a waiting bowl next to the sink.
>
> >> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> >> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> >> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>
> >> I'm sure no one here would do that.
>
> >> nancy
> > When I was doing prep work, one of the restaurants would toss big
> > batches of salad in the sink. I always made sure to clean the sink
> > first, but I saw some who didn't do as good of a job as I did- Yuk
>
> You guys are making such a mountain out of this molehill... I've made up
> my mind. I've concluded that the majority of you don't know squat about
> cleaning and sanitization and thus will never ameliorate your ignorant
> squalling fears of dirt and morbidity.
>
> JUST CLEAN YOUR ****ING SINKS! PERIOD!
>
> Clean them, then use them. Then clean them again when you're done and
> give them time to DRY before using them again.
>
> And as far as tossing big batches of salad into the sink at the
> restaurant goes, I'm assuming that the poster meant the FOOD PREP SINK
> rather than the hand washing sink or the ware washing sink. Even so,
> once cleaned, a sink is a sink is a sink and, once cleaned, is no more
> biologically hazardous than any other prep area in use.
>
> <and NO ONE has mentioned whether or not they wash their hands... before
> or after!>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sure, it was a food prep sink- it was also the chicken thawing &
calamari cleaning sink. Like I said, I cleaned it well, but I can't
say the same for some of the dumbass 20- somethings who didn't care
one way or another. And we wore gloves, so no washing necessary (I am
SO kidding)

Nancy Young wrote:

> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?

I'm never surprised by what people do, Nancy. It's why, in the very
infrequent intervals I can't weasel out of it, I never eat cold-prepared
dishes at a pot-luck, and I even cast a suspicious eye on the hot ones.

Heck, I would bet that there are people out there who wash produce in the
toilet bowl because of the built-in swirly-action.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

Nancy Young wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote
>
>> On Jan 31, 11:35?am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>>> "Steve Wertz >" > wrote
>
>>>> There have been no less than a few studies telling us we'd be
>>>> better off rinsing vegetables in our toilets than our sinks (IOW:
>>>> out toilets have less germs than out kitchen sinks).
>>
>>>> So I just throw a colander in the toilet and flush three times.
>>>> Presto - triple washed veggies.
>>
>>> There's an idea. Hey, I'd clean it first. Heh.
>
>> Only need one flush if your toilet has that blue water.
>
> Heh, what's for dinner, Mom? Meatloaf and Tidy Bowl surprise.
>
> nancy

Or you could fool everyone! and get the stuff that is crystal clear but
still a toilet tank "cake". Surprise!

Jill

"Pennyaline" > wrote

> merryb wrote:

>>> I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
>>> dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
>>> surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?
>>>
>>> I'm sure no one here would do that.

>> When I was doing prep work, one of the restaurants would toss big
>> batches of salad in the sink. I always made sure to clean the sink
>> first, but I saw some who didn't do as good of a job as I did- Yuk
>
> You guys are making such a mountain out of this molehill... I've made up
> my mind. I've concluded that the majority of you don't know squat about
> cleaning and sanitization and thus will never ameliorate your ignorant
> squalling fears of dirt and morbidity.
>
> JUST CLEAN YOUR ****ING SINKS! PERIOD!

We're making a mountain out of a molehill? Then why are you the
one yelling and and using foul language?

> Clean them, then use them. Then clean them again when you're done and give
> them time to DRY before using them again.

Or, I can just bear the excrutiating weight of the lettuce while
I rinse it then put it on a clean surface.

Sorry if I don't consider my sink to be all that clean, even if I
did clean it, I'd have to fill with bleachy sudsy water first to soak
the rack that sits in there.

> And as far as tossing big batches of salad into the sink at the restaurant
> goes, I'm assuming that the poster meant the FOOD PREP SINK rather than
> the hand washing sink or the ware washing sink. Even so, once cleaned, a
> sink is a sink is a sink and, once cleaned, is no more biologically
> hazardous than any other prep area in use.

Hmmm ... I missed seeing that gaping sewer hole in the middle
of my cutting board.

> <and NO ONE has mentioned whether or not they wash their hands... before
> or after!>

I always do. That's a given. Before I empty the dishwasher,
before I prepare food.

nancy

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:57:43 -0700, Pennyaline
> wrote:

>And as far as tossing big batches of salad into the sink at the
>restaurant goes, I'm assuming that the poster meant the FOOD PREP SINK
>rather than the hand washing sink or the ware washing sink. Even so,
>once cleaned, a sink is a sink is a sink and, once cleaned, is no more
>biologically hazardous than any other prep area in use.

Are all the sinks connected to a drain directly, or do they drain into
a floor drain? If connected directly to a sewer line, you also might
want to consider the sewer gasses and germs that belch out of the
drain when water enters the drain. Similar to the "aerosal effect" of
flushing a toilet. The sink may be super clean, but the stuff that
lives in the pipes is not.

--
Zilbandy

"Zilbandy" > wrote

> Are all the sinks connected to a drain directly, or do they drain into
> a floor drain? If connected directly to a sewer line, you also might
> want to consider the sewer gasses and germs that belch out of the
> drain when water enters the drain. Similar to the "aerosal effect" of
> flushing a toilet. The sink may be super clean, but the stuff that
> lives in the pipes is not.

Oh, you made me laugh out loud by saying that just as I mentioned
that little tidbit.

nancy

"Zilbandy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:57:43 -0700, Pennyaline
> > wrote:
>
>>And as far as tossing big batches of salad into the sink at the
>>restaurant goes, I'm assuming that the poster meant the FOOD PREP SINK
>>rather than the hand washing sink or the ware washing sink. Even so,
>>once cleaned, a sink is a sink is a sink and, once cleaned, is no more
>>biologically hazardous than any other prep area in use.
>
> Are all the sinks connected to a drain directly, or do they drain into
> a floor drain? If connected directly to a sewer line, you also might
> want to consider the sewer gasses and germs that belch out of the
> drain when water enters the drain. Similar to the "aerosal effect" of
> flushing a toilet. The sink may be super clean, but the stuff that
> lives in the pipes is not.
>
> --
> Zilbandy

Only if you never use detergent or hot water.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:28:11 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>Oh, you made me laugh out loud by saying that just as I mentioned
>that little tidbit.

LOL, yeah, we did post about the same time.

--
Zilbandy

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:43:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>The sink may be super clean, but the stuff that
>> lives in the pipes is not.
>>
>> --
>> Zilbandy
>
>Only if you never use detergent or hot water.

Wash your sink really well, rinse with plenty of very hot water, then
take off the trap below your sink and tell me you'd eat off the inside
of that pipe.

--
Zilbandy

"Zilbandy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:43:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>The sink may be super clean, but the stuff that
>>> lives in the pipes is not.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zilbandy
>>
>>Only if you never use detergent or hot water.
>
> Wash your sink really well, rinse with plenty of very hot water, then
> take off the trap below your sink and tell me you'd eat off the inside
> of that pipe.
>
> --
> Zilbandy


Agreed, but two things:

- For some foods, there is no choice but to wash IN the sink. Don't ask for
examples. You know what they are.
- If you're so sensitive to germs that this theoretical vapor is a problem,
you have other medical issues that need to be addressed.

Pour 2 cups of bleach down the drain if you're that paranoid.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:28:47 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>I'm amazed that people would be washing, say, chicken or just dirty
>dishes in their sink, then plopping produce right down on the same
>surface. Like, the sink is clean just by virtue of being a sink?

Nor is it any dirtier than my bowls after I've cleaned and bleached
it. I occasionally use it when I need that much room, but I clean it
really well first. (And I don't cook raw meat/chicken here, so there's
none of that stuff floating around.)

Serene
--
"I can't decide if I feel more like four ten-year-olds or ten four-year-olds." Laurie Anderson , on turning 40.

http://serenejournal.livejournal.com

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:47:36 -0800, Dave Bugg wrote:
>
>> Heck, I would bet that there are people out there who wash produce
>> in the toilet bowl because of the built-in swirly-action.
>
> Are you mocking me?

ROTFLOL!!!!
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

"Steve Wertz >" > wrote

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:35:40 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:

>> There's an idea. Hey, I'd clean it first. Heh.
>
> For large batches, there's always the washing machine on the
> gentle cycle. Just start it at the rinse cycle (and leave out the
> fabric softener).
>
> Think of it as a giant vegetable washer and salad spinner.

You saw that on the Rachael Ray Show, too?

nancy