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Okay I read that you shouldn't cook tomatoes in cast iron because it
could become poisonous. This can't be true can it? I just bought a 13-¼ inch skillet and a 10-¼ inch fryer from Lodge. Should I set these two up for specific reasons only? The skillet just for searing and the fryer just for frying or would it be okay to say cook sauces in either? Any tips regarding Cast Iron would be appreciated also. |
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![]() "A.T. Hagan" wrote: > > I personally don't cook acidic foods in my cast iron since it'll thin > the seasoning right out. My pans look great, and spaget sauce is what I *mostly* cook in them. I rinse them quickly, wiping out the crude, use not soap (maybe a little salt), wipe the surface with 2 drops of oil and put back on the burner it came off of, and let the warmth dry it completely. > There is one concern for cooking tomatoes or other acid foods in cast > iron and that is the amount of iron it picks up from the pan. For > many women who are chronically anemic that iron is a good thing. For > many men who may actually have too much iron in their blood already it > can lead to long term problems. Iron is (pardon the pun) bloody hard to absorb. Unless someone has hemochromatosis, do you have any references on iron being bad for men? Since most (pardon my pun) red-blooded American men eat meat, do you believe sauce cooked in cast iron is more likely to "iron overload" men? I am not flaming you, but sincerely interested. blacksalt female veggie (not chronically anemic) with veggie toddler, with a profession interest in iron and iron deficiency |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:23:57 -0700, kalanamak >
wrote: > > >"A.T. Hagan" wrote: > >> >> I personally don't cook acidic foods in my cast iron since it'll thin >> the seasoning right out. > >My pans look great, and spaget sauce is what I *mostly* cook in them. I rinse them >quickly, wiping out the crude, use not soap (maybe a little salt), wipe the surface >with 2 drops of oil and put back on the burner it came off of, and let the warmth >dry it completely. Well, yes. You're reoiling it after every use so the seasoning doesn't thin out. I'm gradually doing the same myself since I now seldom fry anything. >> There is one concern for cooking tomatoes or other acid foods in cast >> iron and that is the amount of iron it picks up from the pan. For >> many women who are chronically anemic that iron is a good thing. For >> many men who may actually have too much iron in their blood already it >> can lead to long term problems. > >Iron is (pardon the pun) bloody hard to absorb. Unless someone has hemochromatosis, >do you have any references on iron being bad for men? Since most (pardon my pun) >red-blooded American men eat meat, do you believe sauce cooked in cast iron is more >likely to "iron overload" men? I am not flaming you, but sincerely interested. >blacksalt Can't point you to a online reference. That info came from a discussion with my doctor as she was telling me my iron count was high and suggested I not take multivitamins with added iron. I went back to donating blood and that problem went away. ......Alan. Post no bills |
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kalanamak > wrote in message >...
> "A.T. Hagan" wrote: > > > > > I personally don't cook acidic foods in my cast iron since it'll thin > > the seasoning right out. > > My pans look great, and spaget sauce is what I *mostly* cook in them. I rinse them > quickly, wiping out the crude, use not soap (maybe a little salt), wipe the surface > with 2 drops of oil and put back on the burner it came off of, and let the warmth > dry it completely. > > > There is one concern for cooking tomatoes or other acid foods in cast > > iron and that is the amount of iron it picks up from the pan. For > > many women who are chronically anemic that iron is a good thing. For > > many men who may actually have too much iron in their blood already it > > can lead to long term problems. > > Iron is (pardon the pun) bloody hard to absorb. Unless someone has hemochromatosis, > do you have any references on iron being bad for men? Since most (pardon my pun) > red-blooded American men eat meat, do you believe sauce cooked in cast iron is more > likely to "iron overload" men? I am not flaming you, but sincerely interested. > blacksalt > female veggie (not chronically anemic) with veggie toddler, with a profession > interest in iron and iron deficiency SO I can cook anything I want in these pans? Basically just treat them like I would my others but keeping in mind the maintance care for them. I am really looking forward to this. There is a resaurant in my area that only uses cast iron for every thing. They are always busy and tops the lists in our area. The EC is the one that got me on this cast iron kick. |
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kalanamak wrote:
> Iron is (pardon the pun) bloody hard to absorb. Unless someone has hemochromatosis, > do you have any references on iron being bad for men? http://www.wellfx.com/InfoBase/Iron.html High amounts of iron have been found in the brains of people afflicted with Parkinson's disease, and it could disrupt the central nervous system enough to aggravate, if not cause, mental disorders. Excess iron is implicated in other diseases, too. It could accumulate to a toxic extent in our organs and tissues, including the joints, the liver, the gonads, and the heart. It could feed the growth of harmful bacteria and malignant tumor cells, as well as stimulate additional cancer-promoting free radical activity. Jukka Salonen, M.D., a Finish heart researcher, established that LDL cholesterol becomes an artery-blocking danger only when it oxidizes and that men with high concentration of iron (or copper) in their bodies are at a particularly grave risk. Swedish research confirms that iron-fortified flour can more than triple the incidence of primary liver cancer and multiply by more than ten times the incidence of hemochromatosis, in which the intestines absorb more iron than the body needs. Copper, cobalt, manganese, and vitamin C are necessary to assimilate iron. Iron is necessary for proper metabolization of B vitamins. |
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![]() levelwave wrote: > High amounts of iron have been found in the brains of people afflicted > with Parkinson's disease, and it could disrupt the central nervous > system enough to aggravate, if not cause, mental disorders. The same thing has been said about aluminum and alzheimers. However because two things occur simultaneously does not necessarily mean one causes the other. Classic false cause fallacy. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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levelwave > wrote:
> High amounts of iron have been found in the brains of people afflicted > with Parkinson's disease, and it could disrupt the central nervous > system enough to aggravate, if not cause, mental disorders. Correlation is not causation. |
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Brian Trosko wrote:
> Correlation is not causation. And only reading the first paragraph isn't comprehension... ~john! |
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Why is one not supposed to use soap when washing cast iron?
"Brian Trosko" > wrote in message ... > levelwave > wrote: > > > High amounts of iron have been found in the brains of people afflicted > > with Parkinson's disease, and it could disrupt the central nervous > > system enough to aggravate, if not cause, mental disorders. > > Correlation is not causation. > |
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Carnivore269 wrote:
> I will NEVER cook in Aluminum. You want to talk about a toxic and > reactive metal. :-P Reactive yes, toxic no. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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Hark! I heard "Aria" > say:
> Why is one not supposed to use soap when washing cast iron? Soap ruins the seasoned finish; it breaks down the nice, baked on grease and opens your cast iron to rust. I found this out the hard way... -- j*ni p. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~ ...fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum! |
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Reg > wrote in message gy.com>...
> Carnivore269 wrote: > > > I will NEVER cook in Aluminum. You want to talk about a toxic and > > reactive metal. :-P > > Reactive yes, toxic no. That's a matter of opinion. ;-) There are lots of links in google. Aluminum Oxide is not something I'd want to eat, and besides, it's bitter as hell... I don't even cover tomatoe dishes with aluminum foil as the one time I did it, mom pointed out to me how it ate holes in the foil, and it did! It also left black spots all over the top of the dish. I had to scrape it all off before serving. I now use Saran wrap. C. |
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(Carnivore269) wrote in message . com>...
> (Vince Poroke) wrote in message . com>... > > kalanamak > wrote in message >... > > > "A.T. Hagan" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I personally don't cook acidic foods in my cast iron since it'll thin > > > > the seasoning right out. > > > > > > My pans look great, and spaget sauce is what I *mostly* cook in them. I rinse them > > > quickly, wiping out the crude, use not soap (maybe a little salt), wipe the surface > > > with 2 drops of oil and put back on the burner it came off of, and let the warmth > > > dry it completely. > > > > > > > There is one concern for cooking tomatoes or other acid foods in cast > > > > iron and that is the amount of iron it picks up from the pan. For > > > > many women who are chronically anemic that iron is a good thing. For > > > > many men who may actually have too much iron in their blood already it > > > > can lead to long term problems. > > > > > > Iron is (pardon the pun) bloody hard to absorb. Unless someone has hemochromatosis, > > > do you have any references on iron being bad for men? Since most (pardon my pun) > > > red-blooded American men eat meat, do you believe sauce cooked in cast iron is more > > > likely to "iron overload" men? I am not flaming you, but sincerely interested. > > > blacksalt > > > female veggie (not chronically anemic) with veggie toddler, with a profession > > > interest in iron and iron deficiency > > > > > > > > SO I can cook anything I want in these pans? Basically just treat > > them like I would my others but keeping in mind the maintance care for > > them. I am really looking forward to this. There is a resaurant in > > my area that only uses cast iron for every thing. They are always > > busy and tops the lists in our area. The EC is the one that got me on > > this cast iron kick. > <snipped> > > I've only seen 2 cases of polycythemia in 10 years, and that's not > necessarily related to iron overload. > <snipped> > > If you are really worried about it, donate blood regularly, every 3 > months. There is a critical blood shortage in the Austin/San Antonio > area right now. They held an emergency blood drive at our hospital > today. The workload was too high for me to be able to go, darnit! :-( > Human resources was offering PPL hours equivalent to a day off for > most people for donating. :-) > > Answering my own post here... I screwed up. I was not fully awake yet and I typed in the wrong blood condition. <cringe> I sleep late since I work a late shift. Please replace "Polycythemia" with "Hemochromatosis" and while it is not related to iron overload, it can be aggravated by it. It's an inherited condition. It's called "engage brain before shifting keyboard into gear". I'm sure that error made me look like a total loser to anyone with medical knowlege. :-( Maybe this will make up for it. Hemochromatosis: Excessive amounts of iron that accumulate in the blood and tissues is classified as Hemosiderosis if the iron accumulation in the macrophages causes little parenchymal cell injury. In Hemochromatosis, however, the iron accumlates in the parenchymal cells and injures the tissues. Hereditary Hemochromatosis is a rare disease and is inherited as an autosomal recessive trait. It is found primarily in middle-aged men. It is caused by a disorder of the absorption of iron. The iron contained in food is absorbed into the system irrespective of the body's requirement for iron. This excess iron is stored in the tissues, to their detriment. These patients generally show hepatomegally (enlarged liver) and a bronze colored skin pigmentation. In about 50% of the cases, there will be splenomegaly, rheumatoid athritis-type symptoms, and diabetes mellitus (frequently insulin resistant). Weakness and weight loss are commonly found as a result of the diabetes. Cardiac abnormalities and loss of hair may also result. Laboratory tests show an increased serum iron level, slightly decreased transferrin, and an increase saturation of transferrin. The patients hemoglobin, hematocrit, and blood smear and generally normal as is the test for rheumatoid arthritis. The macrophages in the bone marrow generally show many small, stainable particles of iron. Liver biopsy will generally show the parenchymal cells to be overloaded with iron. Hemochromatosis is generally treated by the use of phlebotomy procedures, removing one pint of blood at regular intervals until the accumlated iron is removed. Source: Barbara brown, "Hematology principles and procedure" Fourth edition. In conclusion, again, if you are worried about iron overload, just donate blood regularly! That's my social message for the night. ;-) C. |
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Carnivore269 saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told us
all about it on 8 Oct 2003 11:35:03 -0700: >Reg > wrote in message gy.com>... >> Carnivore269 wrote: >> >> > I will NEVER cook in Aluminum. You want to talk about a toxic and >> > reactive metal. :-P >> >> Reactive yes, toxic no. > >That's a matter of opinion. ;-) >There are lots of links in google. > >Aluminum Oxide is not something I'd want to eat, and besides, >it's bitter as hell... I don't even cover tomatoe dishes with aluminum >foil as the one time I did it, mom pointed out to me how it ate holes >in the foil, and it did! It also left black spots all over the top of >the dish. I had to scrape it all off before serving. I now use Saran >wrap. So you can have plastic residue in your dish instead of aluminium residue? We used to microwave stuff with the plastic 'microwave wrap' over it but it melts! Use a glass lid. (or did you mean for storage purposes AFTER it's cooked... that's different) (huggles) ~Karen AKA Kajikit Nobody outstubborns a cat... Visit my webpage: http://www.kajikitscorner.com Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating Ample Aussies Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ampleaussies/ |
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Kajikit > wrote in message >. ..
> Carnivore269 saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told us > all about it on 8 Oct 2003 11:35:03 -0700: > > >Reg > wrote in message gy.com>... > >> Carnivore269 wrote: > >> > >> > I will NEVER cook in Aluminum. You want to talk about a toxic and > >> > reactive metal. :-P > >> > >> Reactive yes, toxic no. > > > >That's a matter of opinion. ;-) > >There are lots of links in google. > > > >Aluminum Oxide is not something I'd want to eat, and besides, > >it's bitter as hell... I don't even cover tomatoe dishes with aluminum > >foil as the one time I did it, mom pointed out to me how it ate holes > >in the foil, and it did! It also left black spots all over the top of > >the dish. I had to scrape it all off before serving. I now use Saran > >wrap. > > So you can have plastic residue in your dish instead of aluminium > residue? We used to microwave stuff with the plastic 'microwave wrap' > over it but it melts! Use a glass lid. (or did you mean for storage > purposes AFTER it's cooked... that's different) > > (huggles) > > ~Karen AKA Kajikit > Just for storage and transport. :-) I don't generally cook with Saran wrap! LOL! I have glass corningware for cooking/heating in the microwave. C. |
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