I'd like to start buying fair trade organic coffee. But I am a coffee
wuss. I don't like dark roasts, I brew a mild cup, and I like flavored
coffee. (Yeah yeah... Keep it to yourself...)

I've tried the 2 brands carried at my local co-op (Peace brand and
some other one that comes in a yellow bag... can't remember the
name...) and found that both were too dark, and neither brand had
hazelnut or vanilla flavored coffees. I don't want to add a corn syrup
"flavor shot" to regular coffee.

I realize this sounds silly, but could someone please recommend a
brand of fair trade, organic, light roast, flavored coffee that I
might like?

Thanks in advance,
June

On 8 Feb 2007 07:55:39 -0800, " >
wrote:

>I'd like to start buying fair trade organic coffee. But I am a coffee
>wuss. I don't like dark roasts, I brew a mild cup, and I like flavored
>coffee. (Yeah yeah... Keep it to yourself...)
>
>I've tried the 2 brands carried at my local co-op (Peace brand and
>some other one that comes in a yellow bag... can't remember the
>name...) and found that both were too dark, and neither brand had
>hazelnut or vanilla flavored coffees. I don't want to add a corn syrup
>"flavor shot" to regular coffee.
>
>I realize this sounds silly, but could someone please recommend a
>brand of fair trade, organic, light roast, flavored coffee that I
>might like?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>June
in advance, I have to tell you that I am a (kona) coffee farmer. My
question is , I wonder how one can have organic and flavored coffee
in the same bean. I think flavor is chemically made. Am I wrong?

And before you get too excited about Fair Trade, try GOOGLE for FT.
It is a quasi political level of bureaucracy and not availabel to all-
For example, we in Hawaii do not qualify and we do everything
correctly as far as Fair Wages etc. FT just doesn't bother with us.
And the FT mark does not assure you of good coffee or flavor.

Just my $.02.

aloha,
beans
roast beans to Kona to send
farmers of pure Kona

I wonder how one can have organic and flavored coffee
> in the same bean. I think flavor is chemically made. Am I wrong?

Ah, I hadn't considered that. I don't know the answer to that - you
may be right!

Thanks,
June

In article . com>,
says...
> I wonder how one can have organic and flavored coffee
> > in the same bean. I think flavor is chemically made. Am I wrong?
>
> Ah, I hadn't considered that. I don't know the answer to that - you
> may be right!
>
> Thanks,
> June
>

I don't think that you can generalize. Some coffees are flavored by
using the actual flavor ingredient, vanilla or hazelnuts for example,
and could certainly be organic. Others surely use artificial flavoring,
not organic. If it's (the flavored coffee) labeled organic you can feel
pretty safe - the rules are quite strict.

--
Peter Aitken

> wrote in message
...
>
> And before you get too excited about Fair Trade, try GOOGLE for FT.
> It is a quasi political level of bureaucracy and not availabel to all-
> For example, we in Hawaii do not qualify and we do everything
> correctly as far as Fair Wages etc. FT just doesn't bother with us.
> And the FT mark does not assure you of good coffee or flavor.
>
> Just my $.02.

What really irks me about the current trend in the UK food culture, is the
meaningless and unattributable declarations of organic, chemical and
pesticide-free, line caught, fair-trade, pixie-picked and any other
feelgood, right-on appellation that adds an extra 10 quid to the shopping
bill.

It's all utter bullshit.

Graeme

In article >,
says...
> What really irks me about the current trend in the UK food culture, is the
> meaningless and unattributable declarations of organic, chemical and
> pesticide-free, line caught, fair-trade, pixie-picked and any other
> feelgood, right-on appellation that adds an extra 10 quid to the shopping
> bill.
>
> It's all utter bullshit.
>

No it's not, at least not here in the US. Some terms, such as
"organic," are strictly regulated and you can be confident that you know
what you are getting. Other terms of course are unregulated and are
essentially meaningless. As a consumer you need to apply a modest amount
of intelligence and effort to educate yourself in these matters.

--
Peter Aitken

jay wrote

> Good answer!.. and at least two dollars worth. I would like a pound
> of green coffee. How do I roast it at home..with no coffee specific
> equipment?

In a thick skillet, cast iron or aluminum do both well.

> Is there any flavor advantage or other advantage..to home
> roasting?

Yes, many. You can decide the level of toastiness simply by varying
toasting time. The uneven level of toastness between the various seeds
gives a richer aroma to the coffee. The delightful aroma in the house
when you toast and, finally, you just toast a little quantity every
week or ten days and grind it only when you make coffee, so the aroma
is much more intense. Normal pre-ground coffee lasts too long, and
looses intensity also in well closed airtigth containers, while ut a
week is a very short time, expecially for non-ground seeds.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0500, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article . com>,
says...
>> I wonder how one can have organic and flavored coffee
>> > in the same bean. I think flavor is chemically made. Am I wrong?
>>
>> Ah, I hadn't considered that. I don't know the answer to that - you
>> may be right!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> June
>>
>
>I don't think that you can generalize. Some coffees are flavored by
>using the actual flavor ingredient, vanilla or hazelnuts for example,
>and could certainly be organic. Others surely use artificial flavoring,
>not organic. If it's (the flavored coffee) labeled organic you can feel
>pretty safe - the rules are quite strict.

I do know how they flavor macadamia nut coffee and that is with some
liquid stuff. I think we have strict USA organic rules but -and I do
not know- do we check with those other countries to be sure their
standards are like ours? Just thinking.

aloha,
beans
roast beans to Kona to send
farmers of pure Kona

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:30:06 GMT, jay > wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:20:42 -1000, wrote:
>
>

>
>Good answer!.. and at least two dollars worth. I would like a pound of
>green coffee. How do I roast it at home..with no coffee specific
>equipment? Is there any flavor advantage or other advantage..to home
>roasting? Your coffee is somewhat pricey.??
>
>jay

There are many home roasters who roast with air popcorn poppers.
Coffee beans inflate as they are roasted, much like popcorn does- but
it does smoke as coffee has oils. And the aroma of roasting our
coffee, certainly which is all I know, is absolutely heavenly.

Yes our green may seem pricey . Why? For many reasons. We live in
the US, pay US taxes, pay fair wages, pay our own health insurance
etc., live on prime and limited real state on an island, and adhere to
all US Dept of Ag. rules and regs. FYI, Kona is one of the world's 2
most loved coffees and grows *only* in a 2 mile by 22 mile area here
on Hawaii island. All in all, it just costs more to raise coffee
here than it does in a 3rd world country. Besides our coffee is so
excellent that the demand is greater than the supply. Most of our
trees are over 100 years old, at our farm and all are happy and
healthy. Any more questions?

I wasn't angling for sales, just saying what another person in this
thread said, all those labels 7 certifications don't necessarily
produce a good coffee.

aloha,
beans
roast beans to Kona to send
farmers of pure Kona

On 8 Feb 2007 07:55:39 -0800, " >
wrote:

>I'd like to start buying fair trade organic coffee. But I am a coffee
>wuss. I don't like dark roasts, I brew a mild cup, and I like flavored
>coffee. (Yeah yeah... Keep it to yourself...)
>
>I've tried the 2 brands carried at my local co-op (Peace brand and
>some other one that comes in a yellow bag... can't remember the
>name...) and found that both were too dark, and neither brand had
>hazelnut or vanilla flavored coffees. I don't want to add a corn syrup
>"flavor shot" to regular coffee.
>
>I realize this sounds silly, but could someone please recommend a
>brand of fair trade, organic, light roast, flavored coffee that I
>might like?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>June


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In article .com>,
" > wrote:

> I'd like to start buying fair trade organic coffee. But I am a coffee
> wuss. I don't like dark roasts, I brew a mild cup, and I like flavored
> coffee. (Yeah yeah... Keep it to yourself...)
>
> I've tried the 2 brands carried at my local co-op (Peace brand and
> some other one that comes in a yellow bag... can't remember the
> name...) and found that both were too dark, and neither brand had
> hazelnut or vanilla flavored coffees. I don't want to add a corn syrup
> "flavor shot" to regular coffee.
>
> I realize this sounds silly, but could someone please recommend a
> brand of fair trade, organic, light roast, flavored coffee that I
> might like?

Can't help you with the coffee, but can help you with the flavour
shots... Monin syrups are made with actual sugar, and taste lovely. I'm
especially fond of half vanilla and half cinnamon in my coffee as an
occasional treat.

Miche

--
In the monastery office --
Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

On 8 Feb 2007 07:55:39 -0800, " >
wrote:

>I'd like to start buying fair trade organic coffee. But I am a coffee
>wuss. I don't like dark roasts, I brew a mild cup, and I like flavored
>coffee. (Yeah yeah... Keep it to yourself...)
>
>I've tried the 2 brands carried at my local co-op (Peace brand and
>some other one that comes in a yellow bag... can't remember the
>name...) and found that both were too dark, and neither brand had
>hazelnut or vanilla flavored coffees. I don't want to add a corn syrup
>"flavor shot" to regular coffee.
>
>I realize this sounds silly, but could someone please recommend a
>brand of fair trade, organic, light roast, flavored coffee that I
>might like?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>June


Are you near any of these stores?
http://www.lwr.org/advocacy/tradejus...i/ifti_how.asp

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In article .com>,
" > wrote:

> I realize this sounds silly, but could someone please recommend a
> brand of fair trade, organic, light roast, flavored coffee that I
> might like?

June, here are a couple of options:

- Peace has a light-roast Guatemalan coffee. I also like their
Blendo Suave, which I think is quite smooth though it is not
technically a light roast. If you can't find it locally, you can
order it on-line. Or come up to The Cities. Or email me -- I think I
can hook you up. :-) Both can be flavored with Monin or Torani
flavors.

- Buy online. I've never dealt with any of these companies; they
resulted from a Web search for _organic coffee flavored_. Here were
the first two I came across. There were more.

http://www.beantrees.com/flavor.html (organic vanilla, hazelnut)

http://www.naturesflavors.com/default.php?cPath=180 (Mexican
beans; some 82 (!) flavors, including some which are just. plain.
wrong. [blueberry cheesecake flavored coffee? peanut butter? pink
grapefruit??])

Enjoy!

sd

Hi Steve and others,

Thanks for the advice and pointers.

> - Buy online.

I think that's my best option right now. I've found two FT Organic
hazelnut coffees:

http://www.greenmountaincoffee.com/p...HazelnutSelect

and

http://www.deansbeans.com/coffee/H.html

And Beans, as much as I would love to have a year-round subscription
for the Kona coffee from Hawaii, I think I will have to wait for a
special occasion to order a modest bag of beans. My birthday is this
summer, maybe I will treat myself then!

Graeme, as others have said, organic does have specific legal meaning
in the US. But pixie-picked beans, LOL! Love it. Maybe the pixie
wouldn't mind helping me with the laundry during her off hours.

Thanks again to all for your thoughts,
June

wrote:
> all US Dept of Ag. rules and regs. FYI, Kona is one of the world's 2
> most loved coffees and grows *only* in a 2 mile by 22 mile area here

What's the other one? (It's a serious question.) Would you mind
rounding out the list of some of the world's other most loved coffees?

Thanks,
-bwg

On 12 Feb 2007 11:09:59 -0800, "-bwg" > wrote:

wrote:
>> all US Dept of Ag. rules and regs. FYI, Kona is one of the world's 2
>> most loved coffees and grows *only* in a 2 mile by 22 mile area here
>
>What's the other one? (It's a serious question.) Would you mind
>rounding out the list of some of the world's other most loved coffees?
>
>Thanks,
>-bwg

Jamiaca Blue Mountain coffee from a few sources such as Mavis Bank is
considered the other great coffee. It costs more than our Pure
Kona.

I don't know others because I am only a Kona Coffee grower but I know
the top two.

Good luck.

aloha,
beans

> I don't know others because I am only a Kona Coffee grower but I know
> the top two.

kopi luwak.
Most expensive shit you can drink...

wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2007 11:09:59 -0800, "-bwg" > wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >> all US Dept of Ag. rules and regs. FYI, Kona is one of the world's 2
> >> most loved coffees and grows *only* in a 2 mile by 22 mile area here
> >
> >What's the other one? (It's a serious question.) Would you mind
> >rounding out the list of some of the world's other most loved coffees?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >-bwg
>
> Jamiaca Blue Mountain coffee from a few sources such as Mavis Bank is
> considered the other great coffee. It costs more than our Pure
> Kona.
>
> I don't know others because I am only a Kona Coffee grower but I know
> the top two.

Thanks beans. Now I know why my corner coffee shop ("Metropolis" in
Chicago, for those who care) wants $39/lb by advance order only for
Jamaican Blue Mountain when it is available.

-bwg

On 12 Feb 2007 14:17:51 -0800, "-bwg" > wrote:

wrote:
>> On 12 Feb 2007 11:09:59 -0800, "-bwg" > wrote:
>>
>> wrote:

>> Jamiaca Blue Mountain coffee from a few sources such as Mavis Bank is
>> considered the other great coffee. It costs more than our Pure
>> Kona.
>>
>> I don't know others because I am only a Kona Coffee grower but I know
>> the top two.
>
>Thanks beans. Now I know why my corner coffee shop ("Metropolis" in
>Chicago, for those who care) wants $39/lb by advance order only for
>Jamaican Blue Mountain when it is available.
>
>-bwg

Yes and I assume because Chicago is a sophisticated city, they know
the great JBM Estates because there are frauds there as there are
here.

FYI a Kona Blend in Hawaii has only 10% Kona, so it can use the Kona
name. The other 90% is unidentified whoknowswhat and you can't even
taste that 10% Kona.

aloha,
beans
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2007 11:09:59 -0800, "-bwg" > wrote:
>
>> Would you mind
>> rounding out the list of some of the world's other most loved coffees?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -bwg
>
> Jamiaca Blue Mountain coffee from a few sources such as Mavis Bank is
> considered the other great coffee. It costs more than our Pure
> Kona.


Hah! Exactly the one I was thinking of. We had Jamaican Blue Mountain
in Jamaica at our elegant hotel over 30 years ago when it was hardly
exported anywhere. In fact we bought beans, purporting to be Blue
Mountain, at a local market there to take home but it sure wasn't!

gloria p

> kopi luwak.
> Most expensive shit you can drink...

"up to $600 per pound"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak

On Feb 12, 4:10 pm, "~xy~" > wrote:
> > I don't know others because I am only a Kona Coffee grower but I know
> > the top two.
>
> kopi luwak.
> Most expensive shit you can drink...

Hm, I don't know if it is *good* coffee, but I recently read about
"Weasel Coffee" -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edible-Wease.../dp/B0001VJE3M

*shudder*

-j.

> > kopi luwak.
> > Most expensive shit you can drink...
>
> Hm, I don't know if it is *good* coffee, but I recently read about
> "Weasel Coffee" -
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edible-Wease.../dp/B0001VJE3M
>
> *shudder*

...same...same...

"josh" wrote:
>
> I realize this sounds silly, but could someone please recommend a
> brand of fair trade, organic, light roast, flavored coffee

Organic FLAVORED coffee... yer kidding. What's the point of organic
anything if you're preparing it with non-organic water. There is no
such thing as organic food, it's just a lot of hyperbole designed to
bait those pinheads with more dollars than brain cells. There is
definitely no such thing as organic coffee, when they start growing
coffee hydroponically then *maybe*... because there is no such thing
as organic rain water. Organic is one of those idiot words with
definitions that can never be achieved, not on this planet. If one
wants to push the organic envelop then the closest one can come to
organic farming is to grow produce on untreated human waste... hey,
micro-organisms are organic, e coli is organic.

Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> "josh" wrote:
>>
>> I realize this sounds silly, but could someone please recommend a
>> brand of fair trade, organic, light roast, flavored coffee
>
> Organic FLAVORED coffee... yer kidding.

<snip stuff>
If one
> wants to push the organic envelop then the closest one can come to
> organic farming is to grow produce on untreated human waste... hey,
> micro-organisms are organic, e coli is organic.
>
> Sheldon
>
Yabutt - you would have to feed the human on 'organic' food.
Catch 22.

Ken.