Two questions:
Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi, tea,
coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:45:47 -0600, "J. Davidson"
> wrote:

>And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi, tea,
>coffee, etc.

Referring to wine as "merely another liquid" is like compairing a
Ford Pinto to driving a Rolls.

People are going to tell you that you haven't had a good wine.....or
it wasn't served properly. You have to face to possibility that maybe
you don't like the taste of wines.

I don't care for lamb. ...and I am always told...well, if you tried
mine, you would love it. No I won't, no matter how it was prepared.
And to moral to the story...you don't like it....don't drink it. After
all, who are you trying to please or be pretentious with?

"J. Davidson" wrote:
>
> Two questions:
> Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)

It may be an acquired taste, but wine does not taste awful.

> And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi, tea,
> coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?

Not knowing anything about wine puts you in the position of being
unqualified to make that judgement. Stick to debating the merits of Coke
and Pepsi.

I don't think wine to pepsi is like "compairing a
Ford Pinto to driving a Rolls" as pepsi always tastes the same but wine has
infinite variety as does tea in fact....
I love wine but am totally anti "wine snobbism" and there is a lot of
pressure to drink wines in restaurants when sometimes I just feel like a
nice crisp clear, palate cleansing glass of water....however some wine and
food combinations should be tried I was swilling round a nice cheap Spanish
red with some stilton in my mouth last night....delicious.

If you think you don't like wines but may be willing to be converted start
with whites first....try a few good ones.....they're less offensive and
different to non wine drinkers or people with a sweeter tooth, but is no
"right" way and you should eat and drink what you like how you like!

Winston

www.cooksbooks.info


"J. Davidson" > wrote in message
news:kWIBh.14082$z6.4678@bigfe9...
> Two questions:
> Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
> And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi,
tea,
> coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
> J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)
>
>

On Feb 17, 11:45 am, "J. Davidson" >
wrote:
> Two questions:
> Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
> And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi, tea,
> coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?

> J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)

I gotta tell ya, sweetie, that voluntarily displaying how proud you
are of being clueless is not attractive once you get further into your
teens. -aem

J. Davidson > wrote:

> Two questions:
> Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
> And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi, tea,
> coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
> J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)

What is Wine?
Wine is bottled poetry.

-- Robert Louis Stevenson

"J. Davidson" > wrote in message
news:kWIBh.14082$z6.4678@bigfe9...
> Two questions:
> Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
> And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi,
tea,
> coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
> J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)


Don't like it, don't drink it.

Wine is so incredibly variable, so many types, styles, grapes, blends,
vintages etc. Some is crap, some is divine. What makes a wine good is
whether or not you like it. If you can't tell a 5 dollar wine from a 100
dollar wine, then you don't have a palette for wine so drink something else.
If a particular wine does not seem to make the meal taste any better, then
that's another reason to not drink wine. Have a nice glass of Pelligrino
instead.

There is no mystique. There are plenty of dilettantes who would make it a
mystique. But who cares?

Paul

Alan wrote:

> Uh. If a person doesn't like wine,
> it just means,
> that person doesn't like wine.
>
> Doesn't mean anything else.


Ah, but when a person says that wine is merely another liquid such as
pepsi, tea, or coffee, that tells you something.

--Lia

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
. ..
> Alan wrote:
>
>> Uh. If a person doesn't like wine, it just means,
>> that person doesn't like wine.
>>
>> Doesn't mean anything else.
>
>
> Ah, but when a person says that wine is merely another liquid such as
> pepsi, tea, or coffee, that tells you something.
>
What?

"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
...
> J. Davidson > wrote:
>
>> Two questions:
>> Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
>> And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi,
>> tea,
>> coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
>> J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)
>
> What is Wine?
> Wine is bottled poetry.
>
> -- Robert Louis Stevenson

I really like that.

In article <0kNBh.294$5F5.280@trnddc02>,
says...
>
> "J. Davidson" > wrote in message
> news:kWIBh.14082$z6.4678@bigfe9...
> > Two questions:
> > Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
> > And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi,
> tea,
> > coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
> > J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)
>
>
> Don't like it, don't drink it.
>
> Wine is so incredibly variable, so many types, styles, grapes, blends,
> vintages etc. Some is crap, some is divine. What makes a wine good is
> whether or not you like it. If you can't tell a 5 dollar wine from a 100
> dollar wine, then you don't have a palette for wine so drink something else.
> If a particular wine does not seem to make the meal taste any better, then
> that's another reason to not drink wine. Have a nice glass of Pelligrino
> instead.
>
> There is no mystique. There are plenty of dilettantes who would make it a
> mystique. But who cares?
>

We've been trying different wines. So far the like list include Pinot
Grigio, Merlot, and the shiner is the California Shiraz.

As to telling the differences, the only experience I have is with
champagne. I can definitely tell the difference between the sub 20 and
over 30 bottles.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> >> Uh. If a person doesn't like wine, it just means,
> >> that person doesn't like wine.
> >>
> >> Doesn't mean anything else.
> >
> >
> > Ah, but when a person says that wine is merely another liquid such as
> > pepsi, tea, or coffee, that tells you something.
> >
> What?

Well I have learned that people with very limited tastes tend to be very
limited people in general. They seem pretty entrenched in mediocrity. And
if that suits them, it's fine. But as far as I go, well I just have little
in common with them and I tend to be very bored with them.

Paul

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote
> Well I have learned that people with very limited tastes tend to be very
> limited people in general. They seem pretty entrenched in mediocrity.
> And
> if that suits them, it's fine. But as far as I go, well I just have
> little
> in common with them and I tend to be very bored with them.
>

I can see this. I know people who *still* only eat the things they ate
growing
up. Very strange.

I saw part of becoming an adult as branching out, experimenting, with a
lot of things, including food and drink. Hadn't thought about parallels
between limited tastes in food and drink, and limited experience. It
makes sense.

cybercat wrote:

> I can see this. I know people who *still* only eat the things they ate
> growing
> up. Very strange.
>
> I saw part of becoming an adult as branching out, experimenting, with a
> lot of things, including food and drink. Hadn't thought about parallels
> between limited tastes in food and drink, and limited experience. It
> makes sense.


Quite some time ago, I posted about traveling in Paris with a couple who
were so picky about food that they actually sought out American fast
food. They couldn't or wouldn't try anything new. Jack summed up the
whole experience with: "people who don't like food don't enjoy sex." I
have no way to test that theory one way or another, but I believe he hit
the nail on the head anyway. I was a picky kid, and, like you, started
branching out as I hit adulthood. I grew out of the pickiness about
food slowly over the years 18-21. About the same time, I started not
being so scared about meeting new people, liking new music and
entertainment, traveling, branching out, etc. I think the parallels
between liking food and liking other experiences are huge.


--Lia

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:49:14 -0600, Alan wrote:

>On 17 Feb 2007 13:51:23 -0800, "aem" >
>>
>>I gotta tell ya, sweetie, that voluntarily displaying how proud you
>>are of being clueless is not attractive once you get further into your
>>teens. -aem
>
>Uh. If a person doesn't like wine,
>it just means,
>that person doesn't like wine.
>
>Doesn't mean anything else.
>
In all honesty, it means that the poster doesn't live on a cost and
hasn't ever tried an even close to decent wine.

I love wine, but I switch to hard likker when I venture inland because
wine tastes terrible there.... due to what, I dunno and I don't care.
I just know it doesn't taste like it should.

--
See return address to reply by email

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:51:35 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>Alan wrote:
>
>> Uh. If a person doesn't like wine,
>> it just means,
>> that person doesn't like wine.
>>
>> Doesn't mean anything else.
>
>
>Ah, but when a person says that wine is merely another liquid such as
>pepsi, tea, or coffee, that tells you something.
>
Hey, to some people cars are CARS but to me they are just
transportation. That perosn could view wine as another form of liquid
refreshment.


--
See return address to reply by email

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:45:47 -0600, "J. Davidson" > wrote:

>Two questions:
>Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
>And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi, tea,
>coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
>J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)
>
IMHO that's pretty much it, something for snobs to rave about. An aquired taste means that it tastes
like shit but you get used to it.

On the other hand I once had a couple bottles of Gooseberry wine from Germany that I really liked
and can easily sit and drink a whole bottle of good (or not so good) sherry and enjoy the flavor.

A girl I once knew bought a bottle of Chateau LaFeet Rothschild (very expensive) and was raveing
about the boquet and a lot of other stuff, to me it stank - and tasted worse than it smelled.

In article >, Larry LaMere > wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:45:47 -0600, "J. Davidson"
> > wrote:
>
>>Two questions:
>>Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
>>And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi, tea,
>>coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
>>J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)
>>
>IMHO that's pretty much it, something for snobs to rave about. An aquired taste
> means that it tastes like shit but you get used to it.
>
>On the other hand I once had a couple bottles of Gooseberry wine from Germany

Geez mate, how often do I have to point out to people that *wine* is
made from *grapes*; not from all this other crap that people like to
stick in a bottle to ferment for a few months.

It's like "tea". Completely debased as a term by all the bloody
fruitcakes who boil up some leaves, or petals, or bark, or worse, and
call the resultant brew "tea" (albeit with suitable modifiers).

I wonder how come "coffee" seems to have escaped these insults so far?

> that I really liked >and can easily sit and drink a whole bottle of good
> (or not so good) sherry and enjoy the flavor.
>
>A girl I once knew bought a bottle of Chateau LaFeet Rothschild (very
> expensive) and was raveing about the boquet and a lot of other stuff,
> to me it stank - and tasted worse than it smelled.

An earthy bouquet with a touch of tinea, perhaps?

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

"Larry LaMere" > wrote in message
>>
> IMHO that's pretty much it, something for snobs to rave about. An aquired
> taste means that it tastes
> like shit but you get used to it.



Like other things, there are good and bad. I used to despise Scotch. Then I
tried a single malt, a Johnny Walker Blue and it changed my opinion. No
comparison between the modest price blends and the really good stuff.

Wine is a personal thing. Many varieties, many qualities. Even more
opinions of them. We drink wine a few nights a week, all modest priced,
most I make myself for less than $2 a bottle.

I still think caviar is vile stuff, but others rave over it. Nor do I like
coffee ice cream, as it is just as vile as caviar.

On Feb 17, 8:45 pm, "J. Davidson" >
wrote:
> Two questions:
> Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)

There's no law saying you must. If you don't like wine, don't drink
it.

> And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi, tea,
> coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
> J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)


Because some like it. Those who don't like it usually drink something
else. It's not really rocket science.

Name something that you didn't used to like but now do. It could be
coffee, cavier, wine, scotch, olives, calamari, green vegetables, or
anything else. It should be something that you previously thought was
blech but that you now appreciate, enjoy and look forward to. Would you
say that you learned to like it? How did you do it? Did you just keep
tasting it until something changed? Did you finally get a good bottle
or get it prepared in a way that you liked? What made you feel
compelled to eat it the time that you liked it? Peer pressure, or
doctor's orders, or something else?


--Lia

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Name something that you didn't used to like but now do. It could be
> coffee, cavier, wine, scotch, olives, calamari, green vegetables, or
> anything else. It should be something that you previously thought was
> blech but that you now appreciate, enjoy and look forward to. Would you
> say that you learned to like it? How did you do it? Did you just keep
> tasting it until something changed? Did you finally get a good bottle
> or get it prepared in a way that you liked? What made you feel
> compelled to eat it the time that you liked it? Peer pressure, or
> doctor's orders, or something else?
>
>
> --Lia
>


mushrooms
asparagus

Both staples in my parents' house but I didn't like the way they looked.
I had to eat them at my future mother-in-law's house out of courtesy and
discovered I really liked the flavor.

calamari

My parents ate it in a seafood stew. I hated the texture and the look
of it. On a trip to the California coast in 1982 I was exposed to the
battered, fried calamari that's ubiquitous in restaurants now, and
really enjoyed it. FWIW my 5 yr. old grandson adores it.

About 15 yrs ago we were at an engineering conference in San Diego and
being taken out to dinner by some Boston execs our company dealt with.
We went to a Spanish restaurant (La Grande Tapa) and my husband and I
both ordered the seafood-rice stew while most of the others had various
fish dishes. Ours came with lots of calamari rings plus a few baby
octopi complete with their "twiddly bits" (legs) sprinkled over the top.
The Bostonians were really grossed out by the sight, but the food was
delicious.

gloria p

Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> Name something that you didn't used to like but now do. It could be
> coffee, cavier, wine, scotch, olives, calamari, green vegetables, or
> anything else. It should be something that you previously thought was
> blech but that you now appreciate, enjoy and look forward to. Would you
> say that you learned to like it? How did you do it? Did you just keep
> tasting it until something changed? Did you finally get a good bottle
> or get it prepared in a way that you liked? What made you feel
> compelled to eat it the time that you liked it? Peer pressure, or
> doctor's orders, or something else?
>
> --Lia

Horseradish sauce, the mayonnaise type... and sausage, any kind

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:47:33 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>Name something that you didn't used to like but now do. It could be
>coffee, cavier, wine, scotch, olives, calamari, green vegetables, or
>anything else. It should be something that you previously thought was
>blech but that you now appreciate, enjoy and look forward to. Would you
>say that you learned to like it? How did you do it? Did you just keep
>tasting it until something changed? Did you finally get a good bottle
>or get it prepared in a way that you liked? What made you feel
>compelled to eat it the time that you liked it? Peer pressure, or
>doctor's orders, or something else?

1. yogurt. I just kept eating it until it clicked. Why? It was the
60s, I was young and impressionable.

2. green olives. I hated then and was occasionally forced to cut
them up for my mother's potato salad. I figured out how to dissect
olives into molecules. Then, at some point lost in my memory, I liked
them. Probably because I liked the potato salad and the green olives
are part of why it's so good. Now I love them on their own as well.

3. brie. I couldn't understand why people made such a fuss over
bland plastic cheese. Then one day at a friend's house I had some
before the wine and I tasted "it." A few minutes later I had some
wine and "it" was gone. Darndest thing, the wine zapped my tastebuds.
I realized that every time I'd had brie in the past it was at a
reception, etc. where I'd pick up the wine first, then the cheese.
But now that I know what taste to look for, I guess my tastebuds are
trained and I have no problem appreciating brie even with wine. Love
the stuff .

Most other things that I don't like, I stand firm

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
>
> Quite some time ago, I posted about traveling in Paris with a couple who
> were so picky about food that they actually sought out American fast
> food. They couldn't or wouldn't try anything new.

I know what that is like. I went on a group trip to Europe once. Never
again. One night I had to go with them to an Italian restaurant in
Germany, and another night to an Irish Pub in Paris. They were upset that
I did not want to go on a trip to France and Portugal with them a few years
later.

> Jack summed up the
> whole experience with: "people who don't like food don't enjoy sex."

I subscribe to that theory.


> I have no way to test that theory one way or another, but I believe he hit
> the nail on the head anyway. I was a picky kid, and, like you, started
> branching out as I hit adulthood. I grew out of the pickiness about
> food slowly over the years 18-21. About the same time, I started not
> being so scared about meeting new people, liking new music and
> entertainment, traveling, branching out, etc. I think the parallels
> between liking food and liking other experiences are huge.

My old riding teacher does not like any spices or vegetables. That blew my
fantasies about girls who ride :-)

"Larry LaMere" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:45:47 -0600, "J. Davidson"
> wrote:
>
> >Two questions:
> >Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
> >And why the mystique, when wine is merely another liquid such as pepsi,
tea,
> >coffee, etc. Is it sort of like DeBeers and diamonds?
> >J. Davidson (who got left out of the veneration of wine group.)
> >
> IMHO that's pretty much it, something for snobs to rave about. An aquired
taste means that it tastes
> like shit but you get used to it.
>
> On the other hand I once had a couple bottles of Gooseberry wine from
Germany that I really liked
> and can easily sit and drink a whole bottle of good (or not so good)
sherry and enjoy the flavor.
>
> A girl I once knew bought a bottle of Chateau LaFeet Rothschild (very
expensive) and was raveing
> about the boquet and a lot of other stuff, to me it stank - and tasted
worse than it smelled.
>
>

Chteau LaFeet? I am thinking that may have been the problem. French wines
can be very potent. I am guessing bunions, ingrown toenails, calluses and
trenchfoot aren't to your palette. Try it again filtered through a clean
sock. It may help.

Paul

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:47:33 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>Name something that you didn't used to like but now do. It could be
>coffee, cavier, wine, scotch, olives, calamari, green vegetables, or
>anything else. It should be something that you previously thought was
>blech but that you now appreciate, enjoy and look forward to. Would you
>say that you learned to like it? How did you do it? Did you just keep
>tasting it until something changed? Did you finally get a good bottle
>or get it prepared in a way that you liked? What made you feel
>compelled to eat it the time that you liked it? Peer pressure, or
>doctor's orders, or something else?

I always hated olives as a kid because the flavour was too strong...
then we started using olive oil for cooking because it was supposed to
be good for you. We started with extra-light oil which doesn't have
any olive taste, then we found out that that was chemically processed
and we moved up to the regular stuff, and eventually graduated to
extra-virgin olive oil, and by then I actually LIKED the flavour so I
was able to tackle actual olives. I love canned/preserved olives now,
but the fresh ones are FOUL.

I always thought I hated eggplant because it was bitter, but it turns
out that I'd only had it badly prepared... I've had it in restaurant
food and it tastes fine there because they know how to get the
bitterness out of it.

My mother tells the story of learning to drink coffee during the
Depression. You could sit in a warm restaurant, order one cup of
coffee, and have them keep refilling it for as long as you liked. Mom
hated coffee, but liked milk. She discovered that she could order her
coffee with only a quarter cup of coffee and the rest milk. In time,
she was drinking it black and loving every sip.


I never felt compelled to drink coffee and don't like it to this day.
(If I'm feeling really comfortable, I'll ask for a tall glass of skim
milk at the end of a meal in a fancy restaurant.) The same goes for
olives and caviar.


I learned to like calamari on a date so we can call that one peer pressure.


Peer pressure also for scotch and other hard liquors. I don't handle
alcohol well. Even when something is reportedly smoothe, I don't like
the taste. There are times, however, when I'm in a bar (usually
listening to jazz) and want to order a drink. In that case, I order
scotch or cognac neat, and sip on one drink all night.


I never hated wine, but I did learn to love it by doggedly staying with it.


And I learned to appreciate arugula and mustard greens by dousing them
in vinegary dressing.


--Lia

In article >,
Julia Altshuler > wrote:


> Peer pressure also for scotch and other hard liquors. I don't handle
> alcohol well. Even when something is reportedly smoothe, I don't like
> the taste. There are times, however, when I'm in a bar (usually
> listening to jazz) and want to order a drink. In that case, I order
> scotch or cognac neat, and sip on one drink all night.


Sometimes that works. I got a lot of pressure from the server to get
another drink, several times. I had had enough. Finally,she said that
the minimum was one drink per set. I got ginger ale.

In article >,
Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:47:33 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> > wrote:
>
> >Name something that you didn't used to like but now do. It could be
> >coffee, cavier, wine, scotch, olives, calamari, green vegetables, or
> >anything else. It should be something that you previously thought was
> >blech but that you now appreciate, enjoy and look forward to. Would you
> >say that you learned to like it? How did you do it? Did you just keep
> >tasting it until something changed? Did you finally get a good bottle
> >or get it prepared in a way that you liked? What made you feel
> >compelled to eat it the time that you liked it? Peer pressure, or
> >doctor's orders, or something else?
>
> I always hated olives as a kid because the flavour was too strong...

I have three children. I used to be a child myself. Kids just don't
like the same foods as adults, in general. It varies a lot.

Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> My mother tells the story of learning to drink coffee during the
> Depression. You could sit in a warm restaurant, order one cup of
> coffee, and have them keep refilling it for as long as you liked. Mom
> hated coffee, but liked milk. She discovered that she could order her
> coffee with only a quarter cup of coffee and the rest milk. In time,
> she was drinking it black and loving every sip.
>
> I never felt compelled to drink coffee and don't like it to this day.

I like coffee. I don't see any point in putting milk and sugar in it.


> (If I'm feeling really comfortable, I'll ask for a tall glass of skim
> milk at the end of a meal in a fancy restaurant.) The same goes for
> olives and caviar.

I did not like olives for a long time. It is probably more accurate to
stay that I would not try them for a long time. Then one hot summer day I
had a case of the munchies and a nice cold drink and there was a bowl of
olives sitting in front of me, so I tried one. Not bad, and they were from
a jar. I was advised to get fresh <?> olives from the delicatessen. They
are now a regular item for me. I love them. I am still not crazy about
canned or bottled olives, especially canned black olives.


> I learned to like calamari on a date so we can call that one peer pressure.


My son acquired a taste for calamari on a sort of peer pressure. I had it
in a restaurant and he asked to try one just so that he could tell his
friends he had eaten something really disgusting. He ended up getting an
order of it for himself and now eats it regularly.


> Peer pressure also for scotch and other hard liquors. I don't handle
> alcohol well. Even when something is reportedly smoothe, I don't like
> the taste. There are times, however, when I'm in a bar (usually
> listening to jazz) and want to order a drink. In that case, I order
> scotch or cognac neat, and sip on one drink all night.

I could save a lot of money if I could learn to nurse a drink for a few
hours.

> I never hated wine, but I did learn to love it by doggedly staying with it.
>
> And I learned to appreciate arugula and mustard greens by dousing them
> in vinegary dressing.


There is an age factor in taste. Children go through a stage where they
like bitter and sour tastes. Toddlers seem to like to chew on pickles and
really enjoy beer. Then their tastes change and they avoid those tastes.
Later on they re-acquire a taste for those things.

On Feb 19, 2:35 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:

> My son acquired a taste for calamari on a sort of peer pressure. I had it
> in a restaurant and he asked to try one just so that he could tell his
> friends he had eaten something really disgusting. He ended up getting an
> order of it for himself and now eats it regularly.

Heh! You reminded me of a time in the late '70s, when I was teaching a
summer class in Zoology 1a at the University of Illinois with a fellow
grad student who was from Hawaii. We decided to close out the labs
with an "eat the critters you've been studying" session.

She brought in some dried cuttlefish and other things her mom had sent
her from home, and I got to use some money from the departmental
contingency fund to buy some clams and squids, and other beasts I
can't remember, from the local seafood supplier. (Yes, even Champaign-
Urbana had fresh seafood back then.)

We had two lab sections. In the first one, Joyce demonstrated a
dissection of a couple of the critters we had, while I did the prep
and the cooking on my camp stove.

We had great fun with this, especially in the second lab after word
had gotten around that those crazy teachers were trying to get us to
eat lab animals. ;-0)

More for us.

David

On Feb 18, 11:31 am, "ravenlynne" > wrote:
> On Feb 17, 8:45 pm, "J. Davidson" >
> wrote:
>
> > Two questions:
> > Why must one learn to like something that tastes awful? (wine)
>
> There's no law saying you must. If you don't like wine, don't drink
> it.

Welcome back, ravenlynne! Are you now settled in, in your new home in
Europe?

David

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:47:33 -0500, Julia Altshuler
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Name something that you didn't used to like but now do. It could be
>>> coffee, cavier, wine, scotch, olives, calamari, green vegetables, or
>>> anything else. It should be something that you previously thought
>>> was blech but that you now appreciate
>>
>> I always hated olives as a kid because the flavour was too strong...
>
> I have three children. I used to be a child myself. Kids just don't
> like the same foods as adults, in general. It varies a lot.

Varies, sure. But my mom didn't coddle to our whims or prepare separate
dishes just because we were children. Based on what my friends with kids
told me (of course those "kids" are all grown up now) they were all too
often making them mac & cheese or buying them chicken McSomethings to
prevent them from having McFits LOL

That's the easy way out and wouldn't be acceptable in my house which is why
I chose not to have children. But I digress. I was eating artichokes,
brussels sprouts, asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, spinach, lima
beans, all sorts of squash (I could go on but I won't!) from the moment I
could take a bite of solid food. If I didn't like it I didn't *have* to eat
it. But I was not allowed to proclaim I didn't like it without tasting it
first.

The only thing I really did not like but now love is peas and that's
probably because Mom bought the canned ones. Yukky mushy things. Dad liked
them served in cream (bland white) sauce on toast. Oh gross! Fresh peas
(or even frozen ones) are a delight!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
>
> The only thing I really did not like but now love is peas and that's
> probably because Mom bought the canned ones. Yukky mushy things. Dad liked
> them served in cream (bland white) sauce on toast. Oh gross! Fresh peas
> (or even frozen ones) are a delight!

I have two brothers who never liked peas. They absolutely detest them and
will not eat them. I don't understand what there is not to like about
peas. I like them. I haven't had canned peas in years, but I used to like
them. I always thought they tasted more like fresh peas than the frozen
things do, just mushier.

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Name something that you didn't used to like but now do.
> --Lia

I never liked peas. It's probably because my mother always bought canned
peas and they were nasty mushy things. The first time I tasted fresh green
peas I was out to dinner with a friend and I tasted them to be polite. But
I noticed they had a nice bright green colour, which I wasn't accostumed to.
Took a bite. Ooooh! These are good! Now I buy peas fresh when they are in
season and frozen when they aren't.

One thing I've still never gotten to like is carrots. I use them in stew
and with pot roasts to add flavour but they taste too sweet to me to just
eat. My lovebird likes them, though, so I buy them for her

Jill

Alan wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:47:33 -0500, Julia Altshuler
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Name something that you didn't used to like but now do.
>>
> I hated V-8 juice when I was a kid, but I tried it recently
> to see if I could get more vegetables in my diet, and I
> liked it! Shifted quickly to the "lower salt" version,
> though, when I saw how much sodium was in the regular
> version!
>
LOL the spicy version makes for a very nice bloody mary!

Jill

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:01:19 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote:


>That's the easy way out and wouldn't be acceptable in my house which is why
>I chose not to have children.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:01:19 -0600, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>That's the easy way out and wouldn't be acceptable in my house which is
>>why
>>I chose not to have children.
>
> That makes absolutely no sense.
>

What do you want from Jill?



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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:24:11 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:01:19 -0600, "jmcquown"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That's the easy way out and wouldn't be acceptable in my house which is
>>>why
>>>I chose not to have children.
>>
>> That makes absolutely no sense.
>>
>
>What do you want from Jill?

Why do you ask? I don't see that I asked for anything.

Lou