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Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.

I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
stayed down too.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
was hoping to find some form of relief before then....


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> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic.
> Last week as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was
> stricken quite out of the blue with some pretty bad stomach
> cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and
> the next day. Friday we went to an early dinner with friends.
> I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and thought it had
> passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity.
> By that night I was quite sick and unable to keep down
> anything at all. All the next day the same thing. By Sunday
> morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate
> less than half of, and some tea. Felt a bit better so decided
> last evening to try dinner. Around the third bite, I had the
> distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I
> lost last nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much
> noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and
> throwing up, I'm quite familiar with. Spent 18 months
> (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is somewhat
> different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this
> sound like food poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to
> stay hydrated, and am keeping down liquids. Ate a small amount
> of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've stayed
> down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to
> check my blood sugars...between sipping sprite and being
> unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure they're out of whack. I
> have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the
> last couple weeks), but was hoping to find some form of relief
> before then....
>
>
> kimberly


Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.
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On Feb 26, 9:17?pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
> down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
> pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
> went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
> thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
> night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
> same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
> some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
> bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
> nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
> familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
> somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
> poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
> liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
> sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
> they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> was hoping to find some form of relief before then....


Seems to me instead of worrying what to eat you should be seeking
medical intervention... by some remote chance have you thought to call
your doctor?

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On 26 Feb 2007 18:31:15 -0800, "Sheldon" > wrote:


>Seems to me instead of worrying what to eat you should be seeking
>medical intervention... by some remote chance have you thought to call
>your doctor?
>
>Sheldon


If you read up a bit, you will see that she does have a doctor's
appointment, but can't get in to see him yet. So I would say that she
is indeed seeking medical advice.

This is what Nexis said:

I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> was hoping to find some form of relief before then....


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> "Nexis" > wrote in
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>
>> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic.
>> Last week as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was
>> stricken quite out of the blue with some pretty bad stomach
>> cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
>> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and
>> the next day. Friday we went to an early dinner with friends.
>> I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and thought it had
>> passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity.
>> By that night I was quite sick and unable to keep down
>> anything at all. All the next day the same thing. By Sunday
>> morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
>> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate
>> less than half of, and some tea. Felt a bit better so decided
>> last evening to try dinner. Around the third bite, I had the
>> distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I
>> lost last nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much
>> noise! Gurgling and such.
>>
>> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and
>> throwing up, I'm quite familiar with. Spent 18 months
>> (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is somewhat
>> different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this
>> sound like food poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to
>> stay hydrated, and am keeping down liquids. Ate a small amount
>> of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've stayed
>> down too.
>>
>> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to
>> check my blood sugars...between sipping sprite and being
>> unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure they're out of whack. I
>> have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
>> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the
>> last couple weeks), but was hoping to find some form of relief
>> before then....
>>
>>
>> kimberly

>
> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
> days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.



There is no such thing as "stomach flu". Let's not pollute the minds of any
kids who may be reading this stuff. It's bad enough there's an entire
generation who can't use apostrophes correctly.




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Christine Dabney wrote:
> "Sheldon" wrote:
>
> >Seems to me instead of worrying what to eat you should be seeking
> >medical intervention... by some remote chance have you thought to call
> >your doctor?

>
> If you read up a bit, you will see that she does have a doctor's
> appointment, but can't get in to see him yet. *So I would say that she
> is indeed seeking medical advice.
>
> This is what Nexis said:
>
> I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
>
> > in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> > was hoping to find some form of relief before then....

>
> Christine


If you read what was written you'd know that she was suffering since
Thursday, it's now Monday night (that's about five days for those
without an abacus). Again, for those with a functioning brain, for
someone with a pre-existing condition who prefaces with "I'm a
diabetic" it was time to seek medical attention a few days ago... ERs
are open 24/7. And your intelligent suggestion is... oh, nothing but
to lay there while waiting to die.... it would suck to be your child.


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Nexis wrote:
>
> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
> down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
> pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
> went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
> thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
> night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
> same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
> some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
> bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
> nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
> familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
> somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
> poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
> liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
> sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
> they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> was hoping to find some form of relief before then....
>
>


Apple Cider Vinegar. My health food fanatic sister in law was always
pushing that stuff, and I was always resistant to any of her suggestions.
then one time I had a nasty stomach problem. I hd tried everything, but
nothing would stay down long enough to work. I would have trouble keeping
straight vinegar down at the best of times, but I was desperate. I poured
about an ounce of apple cider vinegar into a glass and knocked it back. It
tried to come back up but kept it down. Within minutes I was feeling
better.
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> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week
> as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of
> the blue with some pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally
> located stuff, but up high, between the ribs.


> Has anyone experienced anything like this?


Yes, I know of at least eight people that have had it in the past couple of
months. When my wife got it, she spent 6 days in the hospital. Seems like
there is no cure other than wait it out, generally 24 to 48 hours for the
major portion.



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> Seems to me instead of worrying what to eat you should be seeking
> medical intervention... by some remote chance have you thought to call
> your doctor?
>


If it is the same virus that has been going around here, the doctor can do
nothing to cure it. If you are weakened for some reason or have other
conditions there may be other medical problems as a secondary situation and
you should be checked out. My wife has CHF and this put her in the hospital
for 6 days, another elderly couple was severely dehydrated and ended up in
the hospital.

In once case I know if the woman went to her doctor but found he was not in
because he was home with it himself.


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On Feb 26, 9:17 pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
> down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
> pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
> went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
> thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
> night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
> same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
> some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
> bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
> nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
> familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
> somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
> poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
> liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
> sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
> they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> was hoping to find some form of relief before then....
>
> kimberly


Never thought about what a stomach bug would do when combined with
diabetes. Every recommendation I've ever heard is the brat diet, tea
and carbs. Is fasting out for diabetics? Sometimes, you have to
starve the darned virus for a day or so, sucking on ice cubes, or
sipping tea until things quiet down. What about electrolyte drinks?

If your doctor is anything like mine, they will schedule you for a day
or so past the usual lifetime of the illness, since there's really not
much they can do but offer sympathy and palliatives. Best advice is
to curl up in bed with a good book, and sleep as much as possible.
And keep a bucket with a lid by the bed, just in case....

maxine in ri



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> "Nexis" > wrote in
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>
>> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic.
>> Last week as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was
>> stricken quite out of the blue with some pretty bad stomach
>> cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
>> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and
>> the next day.

(snippage)
>> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to
>> check my blood sugars...between sipping sprite and being
>> unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure they're out of whack. I
>> have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
>> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the
>> last couple weeks), but was hoping to find some form of relief
>> before then....
>>
>>
>> kimberly

>
> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
> days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.


Maybe the "BRAT" diet; bananas, rice (plain), applesauce and tea. Oh, and
plain dry toast or plain pasta, maybe in some (not highly spiced) broth. It
works (mostly). Plenty of liquid; if Sprite works or ginger ale, fine (if
it doesn't interfere with your diabetes) but definitely water and a plain
broth. I remember a time I came down with a rather nasty case of the flu
and the nurse called to tell me the doctor had called in sick. Sounded
rather ironic but I'm surprised it hadn't happened at least once in previous
years; after all, they are around sick (contagious) people all day. Hope
you feel better soon!

Jill


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> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last
> week as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite
> out of the blue with some pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual,
> abdominally located stuff, but up high, between the ribs. They
> continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we went to
> an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours,
> and thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a
> new ferocity. By that night I was quite sick and unable to keep down
> anything at all. All the next day the same thing. By Sunday morning, I
> was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and water. Decided to try
> breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and some tea.
> Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the
> third bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This
> morning, I lost last nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so
> much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing
> up, I'm quite familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that
> all day, every day. This is somewhat different, with the high cramps
> and all the noise. Does this sound like food poisoning? Or a stomach
> virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down liquids. Ate a
> small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my
> blood sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down
> the meds, I'm sure they're out of whack. I have an appointment
> Wednesday (the soonest they could get me in...apparently they've been
> bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but was hoping to
> find some form of relief before then....
>
>
> kimberly
>


I have a female type 2 friend who has a conflicting med and food
trouble...perhaps it is a side effect of food and new meds? But since
nobody replied so far who is a Dr...I sugest the emergency room....It is
better to be safe than sorry.
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:17:16 -0800, "Nexis" > wrote:

>Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
>down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
>pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
>between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
>went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
>thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
>night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
>same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
>water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
>some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
>bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
>nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
>I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
>familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
>somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
>poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
>liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
>stayed down too.
>
>Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
>sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
>they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
>in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
>was hoping to find some form of relief before then....
>
>
>kimberly


Any changes in your medications? Metformin has some nasty gastric side
effects - if you've just started it, or changed your dosage, that
might be a culprit. Or maybe a new combination of meds. Any change
might be causing the effect.

And if the only thing you've been consuming is Sprite, your blood
sugar will probably NOT be as nearly as out of whack as you think,
because you haven't been eating anything else. And most oral diabetes
meds take several weeks to get into your system when you first start
them, so they also take several weeks to get out of your system when
you stop them. So skipping a day or two won't throw your blood sugar
totally out of whack, either.

However, being sick =can= raise blood sugars. As a diabetic (are you
relatively newly diagnosed?) you can NOT take the "wait and see"
attitude with illness. If it lasts more than 24 hours call your
doctor. If it's a weekend, get to an ER. You just can't think like a
non-diabetic person anymore. It's just not worth it.

Cathy
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Nexis wrote:
>
> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
> down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
> pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
> went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
> thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
> night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
> same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
> some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
> bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
> nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
> familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
> somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
> poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
> liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
> sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
> they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> was hoping to find some form of relief before then....
>
> kimberly


Uh, I don't know your medical history (other than your mention of Type
II diabetes), but what you describe could've been a heart attack!!!!!
Women present very differently (than men) when suffering a heart attack,
and what you've described qualifies! Definitely seek medical attention
-- the sooner the better, even if it means the ER.

Sky
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Nexis wrote:
> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
> down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
> pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
> went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
> thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
> night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
> same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
> some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
> bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
> nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
> familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
> somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
> poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
> liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
> sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
> they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> was hoping to find some form of relief before then....
>
>
> kimberly


Haven't read the other replies but is it possibly gall stones? Pain
after eating is a huge symptom - and the pain for me was intense, high
and a bit to my right between my ribs. I never had any symptoms
until I had a biliary obstruction which didn't resolve so I had to
have emergency surgery. Get the to a doctor, pronto.

-L.


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> I have a female type 2 friend who has a conflicting med and food
> trouble...perhaps it is a side effect of food and new meds? But since
> nobody replied so far who is a Dr...


That is probably because there are very few doctors who are stupid enough to
give medical advice to a stranger over the internet.

> I sugest the emergency room....It is
> better to be safe than sorry.


That is the best advice.

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Sounds like mild food poisoning to me. I have had a couple varieties, so I
know. I am also diabetic and on metformin. Metformin can cause your
symptoms, especially if you eat a lot of carbs.

There is no such thing as stomach flu or a stomach virus. You can get
severe diarrhea from a simple cold, so you are confusing a symptom for a
disease.

Many things could cause this, even stress. Almost all are benign and the
treatment usually is to just let it run its course. If you had a pathogen
such as salmonella, you'd be wishing you were dead. I've had it and I can
tell you there is nothing so violent and painful as severe food poisoning.
If you are not passing blood in your stools, you do not have salmonella or
anything so severe. A mild case of e coli in an adult can cause your
symptoms. E.coli in an adult can be mild or extremely severe. If it were
severe you'd have a high fever and bloody stools. Or you could be having a
case of the metformin trots. I get them often.

Real food poisoning is so painful you'd not be able to compose a message to
this group. When I had salmonella I literally lived in my bathroom for 3
days and nights, praying for death. Then 3 more days in bed sipping broth
and Gatorade still worried death would not come and relieve me from my
suffering. My anus never really healed, 'roids and fissures have plagued me
since. OK, TMI but it is important in your case. So if you had a really
bad form of poisoning, you'd know it.

So see your doc and be assured you will live through it until then.

Paul

"Nexis" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week
> as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of
> the blue with some pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally
> located stuff, but up high, between the ribs. They continued
> intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we went to an early dinner
> with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and thought it had
> passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
> night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the
> next day the same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small
> sips of Sprite and water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I
> hate less than half of, and some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last
> evening to try dinner. Around the third bite, I had the distinct feeling I
> had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last nights dinner. All day,
> stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up,
> I'm quite familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day,
> every day. This is somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the
> noise. Does this sound like food poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying
> to stay hydrated, and am keeping down liquids. Ate a small amount of
> macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
> sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds,
> I'm sure they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the
> soonest they could get me in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick
> people the last couple weeks), but was hoping to find some form of relief
> before then....
>
>
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> sandi wrote:
> > "Nexis" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic.
> >> Last week as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was
> >> stricken quite out of the blue with some pretty bad stomach
> >> cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> >> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and
> >> the next day.

> (snippage)
> >> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to
> >> check my blood sugars...between sipping sprite and being
> >> unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure they're out of whack. I
> >> have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> >> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the
> >> last couple weeks), but was hoping to find some form of relief
> >> before then....
> >>
> >>
> >> kimberly

> >
> > Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
> > days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.

>
> Maybe the "BRAT" diet; bananas, rice (plain), applesauce and tea. Oh, and
> plain dry toast or plain pasta, maybe in some (not highly spiced) broth.

It
> works (mostly). Plenty of liquid; if Sprite works or ginger ale, fine (if
> it doesn't interfere with your diabetes) but definitely water and a plain
> broth. I remember a time I came down with a rather nasty case of the flu
> and the nurse called to tell me the doctor had called in sick. Sounded
> rather ironic but I'm surprised it hadn't happened at least once in

previous
> years; after all, they are around sick (contagious) people all day. Hope
> you feel better soon!
>
> Jill
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On Feb 27, 7:03?am, "Segue" > wrote:
> "Mr Libido Incognito" > wrote in . ..
>
> > I have a female type 2 friend who has a conflicting med and food
> > trouble...perhaps it is a side effect of food and new meds? But since
> > nobody replied so far who is a Dr...

>
> That is probably because there are very few doctors who are stupid enough to
> give medical advice to a stranger over the internet.
>
> > I sugest the emergency room....It is
> > better to be safe than sorry.

>
> That is the best advice.


Um, didn't someone suggest that way back at the beginning of this
thread? And btw, there is no such animal as a stomach flu, as in
influenza... what's commonly refered to as stomach flu is actually
food poisoning. From the OP's symptoms I seriously doubt she has a
"stomach flu", her symptoms are lasting way too long. She needs to
see a medical doctor, especially with her prexisting diabetes.

http://children.webmd.aol.com/tc/Nor...Topic-Overview

http://www.medicinenet.com/gastroenteritis/article.htm

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Top posting to be sure you read it....Please do check your blood
sugar. If you drop too low, you'll have even more problems.. Try Gravol
when you need to take your meds. Meds and testing are verrry
important. You can always adjust your sugar intake with honey or plain
granulated sugar if you are low...... If you test high, unsweetened
ginger ale...hope you're feeling better soon.....Sharon, also diabetic.

Nexis wrote:
>
> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
> down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
> pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
> went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
> thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
> night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
> same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
> some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
> bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
> nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
> familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
> somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
> poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
> liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
> sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
> they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> was hoping to find some form of relief before then....
>
> kimberly



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"sandi" > wrote in message
news.net...
> "Nexis" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic.
>> Last week as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was
>> stricken quite out of the blue with some pretty bad stomach
>> cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
>> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and
>> the next day. Friday we went to an early dinner with friends.
>> I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and thought it had
>> passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity.
>> By that night I was quite sick and unable to keep down
>> anything at all. All the next day the same thing. By Sunday
>> morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
>> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate
>> less than half of, and some tea. Felt a bit better so decided
>> last evening to try dinner. Around the third bite, I had the
>> distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I
>> lost last nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much
>> noise! Gurgling and such.
>>
>> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and
>> throwing up, I'm quite familiar with. Spent 18 months
>> (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is somewhat
>> different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this
>> sound like food poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to
>> stay hydrated, and am keeping down liquids. Ate a small amount
>> of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've stayed
>> down too.
>>
>> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to
>> check my blood sugars...between sipping sprite and being
>> unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure they're out of whack. I
>> have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
>> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the
>> last couple weeks), but was hoping to find some form of relief
>> before then....
>>
>>
>> kimberly

>
> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
> days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.


I've never had the flu since I started getting my yearly shots. Don't you
think that would prevent it?

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>> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
>> days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.

>
> I've never had the flu since I started getting my yearly shots. Don't you
> think that would prevent it?
> Helen



Flu is a respiratory illness. The vaccinations will not prevent digestive
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On Feb 26, 6:17 pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic. Last week as I sat
> down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken quite out of the blue with some
> pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high,
> between the ribs. They continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we
> went to an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours, and
> thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a new ferocity. By that
> night I was quite sick and unable to keep down anything at all. All the next day the
> same thing. By Sunday morning, I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and
> water. Decided to try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and
> some tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around the third
> bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious. This morning, I lost last
> nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing up, I'm quite
> familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that all day, every day. This is
> somewhat different, with the high cramps and all the noise. Does this sound like food
> poisoning? Or a stomach virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down
> liquids. Ate a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my blood
> sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down the meds, I'm sure
> they're out of whack. I have an appointment Wednesday (the soonest they could get me
> in...apparently they've been bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but
> was hoping to find some form of relief before then....
>
> kimberly

A couple of months after my last son was born, I woke up one morning
feeling like I had been run over by a semi. Over the next day, I
developed the WORST cramps. It felt like a huge bubble, and was quite
uncomfortable. Things were moving, but the evil bubble remained. It
remained there for over a week. I believe I had the flu- I was so weak
that I couldn't pick up my 2 month old son. It sounds like you are
experiencing something like I did. I hope you feel better soon!




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>> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
>> days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.

>
> I've never had the flu since I started getting my yearly shots. Don't you
> think that would prevent it?
>

Influenza has nothing to do with food poisoning or gastroenteritis.
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In article >,
"Nexis" > wrote:

> Ok, a little background. As many here may know, I am diabetic.


It's probably just one of those Norwalk type viruses or some other
temporary thing.... hopefully. But if you have not been screened for
celiac sprue, you should be because you are diabetic and there is an
increasingly strong correlation between the two auto-immune conditions.
Celiac used to be considered a rare condition in the US but is rapidly
approaching an incidence near 1 out of 100 people. The incidence is
even higher in people with diabetes or other auto-immune conditions.

Screening, though not foolproof, consists of blood work and should
include a TTG or tissue transglutaminase. A positive screening result
would require further tests to confirm. American physicians are
notorious for either not recognizing, not screening for, or
misdiagnosing the condition. Hopefully that is not what you have.
Perchance, have you stopped smoking in the last year or so or have you
recently been on a low carb diet?

With celiac, the body has an immune reaction to gliadin proteins
contained in wheat, rye, barley and sometimes oats. It is a toxic (as
in poison) rather than typical allergic reaction. The small intestine
can suffer major damage causing symptoms similar to yours (and more)
over a long period of time. It is not a temporary condition and can
"activate" anywhere from infancy to old age. In addition, anywhere from
5 to 10% of the population has become gluten intolerant for some reason
and the incidence of wheat allergy is also on the rise. One wonders
about the sudden rise in these wheat related problems.

And that concludes my little PSA on celiac. I hope your symptoms are
temporary and that you get well soon.

Emma



> Last week as I sat down to breakfast Thursday morning, I was stricken
> quite out of the blue with some pretty bad stomach cramps. Not the
> usual, abdominally located stuff, but up high, between the ribs. They
> continued intermittently all day and the next day. Friday we went to
> an early dinner with friends. I hadn't had any pain in several hours,
> and thought it had passed. Then during dinner they hit again with a
> new ferocity. By that night I was quite sick and unable to keep down
> anything at all. All the next day the same thing. By Sunday morning,
> I was able to keep down small sips of Sprite and water. Decided to
> try breakfast. Had a waffle, which I hate less than half of, and some
> tea. Felt a bit better so decided last evening to try dinner. Around
> the third bite, I had the distinct feeling I had been too ambitious.
> This morning, I lost last nights dinner. All day, stomach cramps and
> so much noise! Gurgling and such.
>
> I've never experienced anything quite like this. Nausea and throwing
> up, I'm quite familiar with. Spent 18 months (pregnancies) doing that
> all day, every day. This is somewhat different, with the high cramps
> and all the noise. Does this sound like food poisoning? Or a stomach
> virus? I'm trying to stay hydrated, and am keeping down liquids. Ate
> a small amount of macaroni noodles this afternoon, and so far they've
> stayed down too.
>
> Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am afraid to check my
> blood sugars...between sipping sprite and being unable to keep down
> the meds, I'm sure they're out of whack. I have an appointment
> Wednesday (the soonest they could get me in...apparently they've been
> bombarded with sick people the last couple weeks), but was hoping to
> find some form of relief before then....
>
>
> kimberly



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>
> "sandi" > wrote in message


>> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for
>> 3+ days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.

>
> I've never had the flu since I started getting my yearly
> shots. Don't you think that would prevent it?


Sorry, no.
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"MOMPEAGRAM" > wrote in message
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>> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
>> days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.

>
> I've never had the flu since I started getting my yearly shots. Don't you
> think that would prevent it?
>
> --
> Helen


No because it is not a flu. There is a very nasty virus that is going around
that people often incorrectly call a flu, but it is not. It runs its course
in about 3 days. Symptoms are like food poisoning, but it is not that
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "MOMPEAGRAM" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
>>> days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.

>>
>> I've never had the flu since I started getting my yearly shots.
>> Don't you think that would prevent it?
>> Helen

>
>
> Flu is a respiratory illness. The vaccinations will not prevent
> digestive illnesses.


And since there are so many variations of the respiratory flu the yearly
shots often don't cover the particular strain that winds up going around.


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On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:50:01 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "MOMPEAGRAM" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>> Sounds like the stomach flu thats going around. I had it for 3+
>>>> days. Others have had it up to a week, even my Dr.
>>>
>>> I've never had the flu since I started getting my yearly shots.
>>> Don't you think that would prevent it?
>>> Helen

>>
>>
>> Flu is a respiratory illness. The vaccinations will not prevent
>> digestive illnesses.

>
>And since there are so many variations of the respiratory flu the yearly
>shots often don't cover the particular strain that winds up going around.
>


All things considered, a flu shot is just you trying to immunize
yourself against the top three viruses that the best guessers last
year thought would be traveling around this year. Sometimes they're
right, sometimes the one they thought would be an epidemic isn't....
probably because so many people inoculated themselves against it.
However, there isn't a way to research that possibility, so we decide
they were duds at guessing that year. I've been very lucky with flu
shots so far. I might feel "under the weather" (no fever or vomiting)
at some point, but I don't get so sick I have to stay home in bed.
<knock on wood>

Also, during this flu season - be your own advocate. Someone told me
yesterday that she took her teenager to the doctor and ER (twice) with
a severe "stomach ache" and was sent home with instructions about how
to care for the flu both times. The third time mom insisted on a CAT
scan. It turned out his appendix had ruptured. Long story short,
he's lucky to be alive and may have to undergo another operation if
they didn't find all the "gunk".

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> down to breakfast...


least we know you don't have e coli

rich people get e coli, poor people get the shits



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