I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
dislike salty foods.

My primary condiments are black pepper, ground garlic, ground
onions, and pepper sauce. My diet is changing and going more,
and more vegetarian. The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. I would
appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
such as:
A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
Chopped green onions
Chopped Kale (no stems)
Chooped carrots
Diced potatoes
Shredded squash

Dick

In article >,
(Dick Adams) wrote:

> I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
> dislike salty foods.
>
> My primary condiments are black pepper, ground garlic, ground
> onions, and pepper sauce. My diet is changing and going more,
> and more vegetarian. The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. I would
> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> such as:
> A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
> Chopped green onions
> Chopped Kale (no stems)
> Chooped carrots
> Diced potatoes
> Shredded squash
>
> Dick

Primary items I use are garlic, grated fresh ginger, onion (fresh or
powder), black pepper and dried celery (ground) or celery seed.

Dried ground lemon peel is also good, as are dried dill weed, basil,
tarragon and other dried herbs.

I'm not much of a salt fan either, but I will use light soy sauce and
teryaki sauce in small amounts.
--
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Dick Adams wrote:
> I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
> dislike salty foods.
>
> My primary condiments are black pepper, ground garlic, ground
> onions, and pepper sauce. My diet is changing and going more,
> and more vegetarian. The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. I would
> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> such as:
> A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
> Chopped green onions
> Chopped Kale (no stems)
> Chooped carrots
> Diced potatoes
> Shredded squash
>
> Dick

Salt! gimme a break, just because mama never did you won't eat salt?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Dick Adams wrote:
>> I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
>> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
>> dislike salty foods.
>>
>> The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
>> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. I would
>> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
>> such as:
>> A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
>> Chopped green onions
>> Dick
>


> Salt! gimme a break, just because mama never did you won't eat salt?
>
> Jill

He said he does not care for salty foods. Where is the harm in that?

He'd be better off frying up some of those peppers in bacon fat for flavor
anyway.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote on 04 Mar 2007 in rec.food.cooking

>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dick Adams wrote:
> >> I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
> >> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
> >> dislike salty foods.
> >>
> >> The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
> >> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. I would
> >> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> >> such as:
> >> A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
> >> Chopped green onions
> >> Dick
> >
>
>
> > Salt! gimme a break, just because mama never did you won't eat
> > salt?
> >
> > Jill
>
> He said he does not care for salty foods. Where is the harm in that?
>
> He'd be better off frying up some of those peppers in bacon fat for
> flavor anyway.
>
>
>

And using the crumbled bacon as well. Plus say toasted minced dried onions
as well.

Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > "jmcquown" wrote:
> > > Dick Adams wrote:
> > >> I rarely use salt. *It's not a health issue. *It's just that
> > >> my mother never put salt on the table. *Over time I came to
> > >> dislike salty foods.
>
> > >> *The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
> > >> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. *I would
> > >> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> > >> such as:
> > >> * A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
> > >> * Chopped green onions
> > >> Dick
>
> > > Salt! *gimme a break, just because mama never did you won't eat
> > > salt?
>
> > > Jill
>
> > He said he does not care for salty foods. *Where is the harm in that?
>
> > He'd be better off frying up some of those peppers in bacon fat for
> > flavor anyway.
>
> And using the crumbled bacon as well. Plus say toasted minced dried onions
> as well

Yeah, but... bacon adds tremendous quantities of salt, bacon fat puts
salted butter to shame... bacon and other cured meats is the very
worst choice of flavoring to cut back on salts... frying anything in
bacon fat tastes great mostly due to all that salt it adds, hardly
anyone ever salts foods fried in bacon fat... fry your eggs in bacon
fat you won't want any more salt.

To highlight flavor without adding salt, especially with vegtables,
use citrus juices and various vinegars... a good malt vinegar on
french fries eliminates the need for salt and salt laden condiments
like ketchup. And there are many fresh and even dried herbs that
amplify flavor... placing a big dollop of plain yogurt with chives or
scallions and especially horseradish on baked/boiled potatoes
eliminates the need for adding salt. When preparing your own mustards
you can omit salt too, and mustard is an excellent flavor enhancer
especially for meats... only takes a few minutes to mix hot mustard
powder with water... keep a couple ounce container in the fridge and
you'll use it often, great condiment for your no salt added stir
fries. There also exist many no salt added spice blends that are
excellent. Another very good salt *free* flavor enhancer are sugars
(white and brown), various natural flavored syrups (fruit flavored,
maple, molasses, sorghum, and especially honey). Many cured meats,
especially bacon, rely on sugar in their manufacture to cut back on
the salts... sugar is a natural preservative, the oldest known to
man... what do you think is preserving that box of dried grapes.

Sheldon SweetNSour

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
To highlight flavor without adding salt, especially with vegtables,
use citrus juices and various vinegars... a good malt vinegar on
french fries eliminates the need for salt and salt laden condiments
like ketchup.

Good point with the vinegar. As a kid, the only vinegar I knew was the white
stuff and thought it was nasty. Many years later, I find that there are
many other types that are really quite pleasing to the taste buds.

jmcquown wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
>> I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
>> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
>> dislike salty foods.

>
> Salt! gimme a break, just because mama never did you won't eat salt?
>
> Jill

And just because she didn't put a salt shaker on the table doesn't mean
she didn't cook with it. Some foods just won't taste right without some
salt in the cooking process.

Goomba38 > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Dick Adams wrote:

>>> I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
>>> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
>>> dislike salty foods.

>> Salt! gimme a break, just because mama never did you won't eat salt?

> And just because she didn't put a salt shaker on the table doesn't mean
> she didn't cook with it. Some foods just won't taste right without some
> salt in the cooking process.

She didn't cook with salt either and thankfully she didn't make coffee.
Neither did my grandmother.

Dick

"Dick Adams" > wrote
>
> She didn't cook with salt either and thankfully she didn't make coffee.
> Neither did my grandmother.
>

Dick, why do you think this is good?

cybercat > wrote:
> "Dick Adams" > wrote

>> She didn't cook with salt either and thankfully she didn't make coffee.
>> Neither did my grandmother.

> Dick, why do you think this is good?

What some people think is the aroma of coffee I think is a stench.
But to each his own.

Dick

Dick Adams wrote:
> I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
> dislike salty foods.
>
> My primary condiments are black pepper, ground garlic, ground
> onions, and pepper sauce. My diet is changing and going more,
> and more vegetarian. The problem is vegetarian can be awfully
> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. I would
> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> such as:
> A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
> Chopped green onions
> Chopped Kale (no stems)
> Chooped carrots
> Diced potatoes
> Shredded squash


If you've never liked salt even when omnivorous, the lacking flavor in
your vegetarian diet isn't salt. The lacking flavor must be something
normally associated with meat. I suggest zesting up your dishes with
mushrooms, butter, cream, olive oil, eggplant, walnuts, almonds. Also
try lemon pepper, hot peppers, vinegar, orange and lemon zest.


--Lia

On Mar 4, 2:01 am, (Dick Adams) wrote:
> I rarely use salt. [snip]
> My primary condiments are black pepper, ground garlic, ground
> onions, and pepper sauce. My diet is changing and going more,
> and more vegetarian. The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. I would
> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> such as: [snip]

Lemon or lime. Juice sprinkled over at the end of cooking, and zest
either then or earlier in the cooking. This is often used to provide
a little zing in low-salt prepared foods. Recalling a recent thread,
I'd suggest you also might try a shake or two of msg (Accent). If you
do, season with it while cooking, not at the table. -aem

Dick wrote:

> I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
> dislike salty foods.
>
> My primary condiments are black pepper, ground garlic, ground
> onions, and pepper sauce. My diet is changing and going more,
> and more vegetarian. The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. I would
> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> such as:
> A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
> Chopped green onions
> Chopped Kale (no stems)
> Chooped carrots
> Diced potatoes
> Shredded squash


Mayonnaise. Every single thing listed would be good with mayonnaise.

Inner Beauty Hot Sauce. It's a mango-habañero-curry sauce.

Malt vinegar. It's not just for fish & chips.

Béchamel sauce, especially with a bit of nutmeg or Tabasco.

Happy seasoning!

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" wrote:
> Dick wrote:
> > I rarely use salt. *It's not a health issue. *It's just that
> > my mother never put salt on the table. *Over time I came to
> > dislike salty foods.
>
> > My primary condiments are black pepper, ground garlic, ground
> > onions, and pepper sauce. *My diet is changing and going more,
> > and more vegetarian. *The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
> > bland and my condiments aren't making a difference. *I would
> > appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> > such as:
> > *A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
> > *Chopped green onions
> > *Chopped Kale (no stems)
> > *Chooped carrots
> > *Diced potatoes
> > *Shredded squash
>
> Mayonnaise. Every single thing listed would be good with mayonnaise.

Yeah, but... the entire thrust of this thread is to eliminate extra
salt.

Commercial mayo is high in salt... and the way some slather it on they
may as well have free reign the salt shaker.

> Inner Beauty Hot Sauce. It's a mango-habañero-curry sauce.

Commercial hot sauces all contain rather high salt content too... if
one only uses a dash it probably makes little difference in over-all
salt ingested, but I've seen folks squirt half the bottle on one
serving of rice n' beans.


Sheldon

> Yeah, but... the entire thrust of this thread is to eliminate extra
> salt.
>
> Commercial mayo is high in salt... and the way some slather it on they
> may as well have free reign the salt shaker.

I've probably have an exceptionall low salt intake. My intention
for this was to identify seasonings to bring out the flavor in
vegetables. Plus brown mustard has more flavor (to me) than mayo.

Dick

"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...
>I rarely use salt. It's not a health issue. It's just that
> my mother never put salt on the table. Over time I came to
> dislike salty foods.

Good for you, itoo much is not good for your body. Plus it is present in
sufficient amounts in many foods with out adding any.

>
> My primary condiments are black pepper, ground garlic, ground
> onions, and pepper sauce. My diet is changing and going more,
> and more vegetarian. The problem is vegetarian can be awefully
> bland and my condiments aren't making a difference.

There is a bigger problem. You need complete proteins, which are
present in meat, but not in other foods, so you have to combine
other foods to get the complete proteins. Unless you like the idea
of cracked, bleeding skin, dry hair that falls out, pimples, deformed
finger and toenails, and gums that won't hold your teeth in your head.


I would
> appreciate suggestions condiments to put some zest into a dish
> such as:
> A variety of sliced Bell Peppers
> Chopped green onions
> Chopped Kale (no stems)
> Chooped carrots
> Diced potatoes
> Shredded squash
>

Jalapeno peppers. Browned plump chunks of onions. Use a pepper
mill, fresh cracked pepper is a world apart from ground. A squeeze
of fresh lemon juice. A sprinkle of cheddar cheese! (No reason for
you to avoid dairy, it is not like your diet is based on religious belief.)
And add some tomatos at the end, but just warm them, don't cook
them to mush. Also: rosemary is a great zippy spice.

That said--if you are not going to eat meat, you had better learn to
combine things like beans and rice. You will be both sickly and ugly
if you neglect your complete protein needs. Study up on it online.

cybercat wrote:

> There is a bigger problem. You need complete proteins, which are
> present in meat, but not in other foods, so you have to combine
> other foods to get the complete proteins. Unless you like the idea
> of cracked, bleeding skin, dry hair that falls out, pimples, deformed
> finger and toenails, and gums that won't hold your teeth in your head.


This is true in the most extreme cases, but you don't run into it much
with your standard, everyday, run of the mill, vegetarian. Most get all
the protien they need from eggs and dairy. The original poster said he
was eating more and more vegetarian, not that he'd given up on meat
altogether. If he's getting enough calories, he's probably getting
enough protein. If he's getting a reasonable variety of vegetables,
fruits, nuts, beans, grains, he's probably getting enough vitamins and
minerals.


The horror stories you hear about deficiencies causing the symptoms you
name usually come from extreme situations, times of war or famine where
people were eating from the same canned goods for years at a time, or
where illness or alcoholism rendered someone unable to digest or
metabolize nutrients. Extreme dieting as with an eating disorder counts
too.


When Lappe came out with _Diet For A Small Planet_, she made it sound
like exact protein combining was necessary or deficiencies would result.
In later editions of the book, she updated her information. If you're
getting rice and beans over the course of a week, you're getting
complementary proteins. They don't have to be eaten at the same meal.


--Lia

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote:
>
>
> When Lappe came out with _Diet For A Small Planet_, she made it sound like
> exact protein combining was necessary or deficiencies would result. In
> later editions of the book, she updated her information. If you're
> getting rice and beans over the course of a week, you're getting
> complementary proteins. They don't have to be eaten at the same meal.
>
>

Yes. I'm frequently amazed by the ignorance people exhibit regarding basic
nutrition. There are so many people who, due to various media distortions
of nutrition studies and their own need to oversimplify to keep it easy,
think, "Fat Bad. Meat Bad. Vegetables Good."

It's just not that simple.

As for the OP, the dish he gave as an example had no rice, no beans,
no dairy, and I saw nothing in his post to suggest that he eats those
things.
Or that he doesn't, as a matter of fact.

Hell, maybe he will respond, we'll see what his take on it is. heh



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

cybercat > wrote:

>"Julia Altshuler" > wrote:

>> When Lappe came out with _Diet For A Small Planet_, she made it sound like
>> exact protein combining was necessary or deficiencies would result. In
>> later editions of the book, she updated her information. If you're
>> getting rice and beans over the course of a week, you're getting
>> complementary proteins. They don't have to be eaten at the same meal.

>Yes. I'm frequently amazed by the ignorance people exhibit regarding basic
>nutrition.

Does one of you have a reference for the "one week" figure cited
above? That seems rather a long time. The complementary amino
acids need to be in the liver at the same time for protein synthesis
to occur. And my understanding is that the liver doesn't really store
amino acids or proteins in the same way that it stores glucose/glycogen.

Steve
>of nutrition studies and their own need to oversimplify to keep it easy,
>think, "Fat Bad. Meat Bad. Vegetables Good."
>
>It's just not that simple.
>
>As for the OP, the dish he gave as an example had no rice, no beans,
>no dairy, and I saw nothing in his post to suggest that he eats those
>things.
>Or that he doesn't, as a matter of fact.
>
>Hell, maybe he will respond, we'll see what his take on it is. heh
>
>
>
>--
>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Steve Pope wrote:

> Does one of you have a reference for the "one week" figure cited
> above?


Good question. I'm the one who should have the reference, and the best
I can do is say that I think I remember hearing something about it when
the updated and revised edition of Diet for A Small Planet came out,
10-15 years ago. I have the original on my bookshelf and would have to
go to the library for anniversary edition I'm thinking of.


--Lia

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat > wrote:
>
>>"Julia Altshuler" > wrote:
>
>>> When Lappe came out with _Diet For A Small Planet_, she made it sound
>>> like
>>> exact protein combining was necessary or deficiencies would result. In
>>> later editions of the book, she updated her information. If you're
>>> getting rice and beans over the course of a week, you're getting
>>> complementary proteins. They don't have to be eaten at the same meal.
>
>>Yes. I'm frequently amazed by the ignorance people exhibit regarding basic
>>nutrition.
>
> Does one of you have a reference for the "one week" figure cited
> above? That seems rather a long time. The complementary amino
> acids need to be in the liver at the same time for protein synthesis
> to occur. And my understanding is that the liver doesn't really store
> amino acids or proteins in the same way that it stores glucose/glycogen.
>
> Steve
>>of nutrition studies and their own need to oversimplify to keep it easy,
>>think, "Fat Bad. Meat Bad. Vegetables Good."
>>
>>It's just not that simple.
>>
>>As for the OP, the dish he gave as an example had no rice, no beans,
>>no dairy, and I saw nothing in his post to suggest that he eats those
>>things.
>>Or that he doesn't, as a matter of fact.
>>
>>Hell, maybe he will respond, we'll see what his take on it is. heh
>>>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

these conversations remind me of here in the u.k. some years, ago doctors
discovered an old lady who had lived for the last ten years or so, on
nothing but rice pudding !

cybercat > wrote:

> Yes. I'm frequently amazed by the ignorance people exhibit regarding basic
> nutrition. There are so many people who, due to various media distortions
> of nutrition studies and their own need to oversimplify to keep it easy,
> think, "Fat Bad. Meat Bad. Vegetables Good."
>
> It's just not that simple.
>
> As for the OP, the dish he gave as an example had no rice, no beans,
> no dairy, and I saw nothing in his post to suggest that he eats those
> things. Or that he doesn't, as a matter of fact.
>
> Hell, maybe he will respond, we'll see what his take on it is. heh

I'm frequently amazed by the ignorance people exhibit when they read
too much into what isn't written.

I have chicken or fish at least two meals a week and red meat maybe
once a month. There's a hell of a lot of salt in canned foods. So
much salt that I dislike low sodium soups. I eat rice with dinner
3-7 nights a week and sting beans whenever we have them. At least
once a week, my lunch is a baked potato with butter, green onions,
and chipotle.

I'd drink milk except my family likes 1% and I like real milk. Tonight
I had a ham steak with rice and mixed vegetables. My usual is two meals
a day because I am disabled, inactive, etc. and not hungry. If I need
a snack, it's either fruit or sardines. I weigh over 260 (188 kg or
18.5 stones). My good colesteral is high, bad colesteral is low, and
my blood pressure is 118 over 60.

Vegetables are very good for you. My back is held together with
two chunks of concrete and doctors keep giving me heavy duty pain
killers. Pain killers plus a normal amount of red meat result in
opiate-induced constipation - and that is often more painful than
back pain. Vegetables go though your digestive system as smoothly
as a tender lover working on your neck.

I'd just like to find different seasoning to perk up my meals.

Thanks to every one who has made constructive suggestions. In
particular, I like the orange and lemon zest ideas. I have both
of those readily available as I peel the zest off citrus (except
grapefruit which I detest) for flavoring with vodka.

Dick

"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat > wrote:
>
>> Yes. I'm frequently amazed by the ignorance people exhibit regarding
>> basic
>> nutrition. There are so many people who, due to various media distortions
>> of nutrition studies and their own need to oversimplify to keep it easy,
>> think, "Fat Bad. Meat Bad. Vegetables Good."
>>
>> It's just not that simple.
>>
>> As for the OP, the dish he gave as an example had no rice, no beans,
>> no dairy, and I saw nothing in his post to suggest that he eats those
>> things. Or that he doesn't, as a matter of fact.
>>
>> Hell, maybe he will respond, we'll see what his take on it is. heh
>
> I'm frequently amazed by the ignorance people exhibit when they read
> too much into what isn't written.

Oh, you ARE the OP! hahaha
>
> I have chicken or fish at least two meals a week and red meat maybe
> once a month. There's a hell of a lot of salt in canned foods. So
> much salt that I dislike low sodium soups. I eat rice with dinner
> 3-7 nights a week and sting beans whenever we have them. At least
> once a week, my lunch is a baked potato with butter, green onions,
> and chipotle.
>

Well I am happy for you. You just sounded a little too self congratulatory
about the "vegetarian" aspects your meals were taking on.

What do canned foods have to do with it?

Next question: why are you anti-salt? It's an easy way to add flavor
to the bland vegetables you mentioned in your original post, and
it is fine in moderation.

In article >,
Julia Altshuler > wrote:

> When Lappe came out with _Diet For A Small Planet_, she made it sound
> like exact protein combining was necessary or deficiencies would result.
> In later editions of the book, she updated her information. If you're
> getting rice and beans over the course of a week, you're getting
> complementary proteins. They don't have to be eaten at the same meal.

I'm so glad you covered this because most of the (casual) things I've
read lately say that the combo directive is a total myth based on no
fact whatsoever. The general impression I get from my informal readings
is that as long as otherwise healthy people eat a very diverse diet
(whether vegetarian or not), we won't have much to worry about.

Emma

Emma Thackery > wrote:

> Julia Altshuler > wrote:

>> When Lappe came out with _Diet For A Small Planet_, she made it sound
>> like exact protein combining was necessary or deficiencies would result.
>> In later editions of the book, she updated her information. If you're
>> getting rice and beans over the course of a week, you're getting
>> complementary proteins. They don't have to be eaten at the same meal.

>I'm so glad you covered this because most of the (casual) things I've
>read lately say that the combo directive is a total myth based on no
>fact whatsoever.

It is by no means a myth that you need a sufficient intake of
essential amino acids to avoid diseases like pellagra.

>The general impression I get from my informal readings
>is that as long as otherwise healthy people eat a very diverse diet
>(whether vegetarian or not), we won't have much to worry about.

Yes, but this is true because a diverse vegetarian diet has the
effect of combining various protein sources into complete protein.

Steve

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Emma Thackery > wrote:
>
> > Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>
> >> When Lappe came out with _Diet For A Small Planet_, she made it sound
> >> like exact protein combining was necessary or deficiencies would result.
> >> In later editions of the book, she updated her information. If you're
> >> getting rice and beans over the course of a week, you're getting
> >> complementary proteins. They don't have to be eaten at the same meal.
>
> >I'm so glad you covered this because most of the (casual) things I've
> >read lately say that the combo directive is a total myth based on no
> >fact whatsoever.
>
> It is by no means a myth that you need a sufficient intake of
> essential amino acids to avoid diseases like pellagra.
>
> >The general impression I get from my informal readings
> >is that as long as otherwise healthy people eat a very diverse diet
> >(whether vegetarian or not), we won't have much to worry about.
>
> Yes, but this is true because a diverse vegetarian diet has the
> effect of combining various protein sources into complete protein.

What I was (sloppily) commenting on was the mistaken notion that the
exact combination of proteins must be taken in at the same *meal*. Same
day appears to be adequate. And also, many people seem to assume that a
vegetarian diet has no sources of complete proteins and, of course, that
is incorrect. There are significant non-meat sources of complete
proteins.

Emma

Steve Pope wrote:

> It is by no means a myth that you need a sufficient intake of
> essential amino acids to avoid diseases like pellagra.


Thanks for that information. Until a second ago when I checked on it, I
would have associated pellagra with a vitamin B3 deficiency only, and
not with an amino acid deficiency as well.


When reading the Wikipedia information on pellagra, I came across this:
"There has been speculation that the legend of vampires may have been
furthered in the 1700s during pellagra outbreaks in Europe." Ooh, I
love that sort of stuff. The connection between ergot and witchcraft is
another example. Love it.


--Lia

cybercat wrote:

> There is a bigger problem. You need complete proteins, which are
> present in meat, but not in other foods, so you have to combine
> other foods to get the complete proteins. Unless you like the idea
> of cracked, bleeding skin, dry hair that falls out, pimples, deformed
> finger and toenails, and gums that won't hold your teeth in your head.

WoW - that puts a whole new shine on the word "extremism".

Dick

"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> There is a bigger problem. You need complete proteins, which are
>> present in meat, but not in other foods, so you have to combine
>> other foods to get the com plete proteins. Unless you like the idea
>> of cracked, bleeding skin, dry hair that falls out, pimples, deformed
>> finger and toenails, and gums that won't hold your teeth in your head.
>
> WoW - that puts a whole new shine on the word "extremism".
>

Well, I was trying to make a point. That worked with my sister's
teenager when she decided to go vegan. (The OP sounded young
to me.)

cybercat > wrote:
> "Dick Adams" > wrote:
>> cybercat wrote:

>>> There is a bigger problem. You need complete proteins, which are
>>> present in meat, but not in other foods, so you have to combine
>>> other foods to get the com plete proteins. Unless you like the idea
>>> of cracked, bleeding skin, dry hair that falls out, pimples, deformed
>>> finger and toenails, and gums that won't hold your teeth in your head.

>> WoW - that puts a whole new shine on the word "extremism".

> Well, I was trying to make a point. That worked with my sister's
> teenager when she decided to go vegan. (The OP sounded young
> to me.)

Everyday is my 17th birthday! But my body is retirement age.

Once again you read too much of what is not written.

Dick