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From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
Ketchups. Wow.


BRIT:

The bottle of Heinz ketchup in my fridge doesn't list onion in the
ingredients. Lea & Perrins does have it, but obviously not in
chunks.

BLINKY:

The bottle of Heinz ketchuup in my fridge lists onion powder in the
ingredients.

BRIT:

Curious.

Tomatoes (126g per 100g Ketchup), Spirit Vinegar, Sugar, Salt, Spice &
Herb Extracts (contain Celery), Spice, Garlic Powder.

BLINKY:

Curiouser.

Tomato concentrate made from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high
fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, salt, spice, onion powder, natural
flavoring.


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Blinky the Shark said...

> From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
> Ketchups. Wow.


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Blinky,

How do you suppose Heinz comes up with all those 57+ varieties?

They have some we haven't seen on USA market shelves...

http://www.tinyurl.com/uuadl

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Andy wrote:
> Blinky the Shark said...
>
>> From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
>> Ketchups. Wow.

>
><snipped for brevity>
>
> How do you suppose Heinz comes up with all those 57+ varieties?


Selling different ketchups in 57+ countries! Hooda thunkit?

> They have some we haven't seen on USA market shelves...
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/uuadl


Ew.


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In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Blinky the Shark said...
>
> > From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
> > Ketchups. Wow.

>
> <snipped for brevity>
>
>
> Blinky,
>
> How do you suppose Heinz comes up with all those 57+ varieties?
>
> They have some we haven't seen on USA market shelves...
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/uuadl


You can get imported Heinz items in some gourmet shops, which is where I
assume that photo came from. By the way, did you notice the misspelling
in that photo?
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Stan Horwitz wrote:
> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark said...
>>
>> > From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
>> > Ketchups. Wow.

>>
>> <snipped for brevity>
>>
>>
>> Blinky,
>>
>> How do you suppose Heinz comes up with all those 57+ varieties?
>>
>> They have some we haven't seen on USA market shelves...
>>
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/uuadl

>
> You can get imported Heinz items in some gourmet shops, which is where I
> assume that photo came from. By the way, did you notice the misspelling
> in that photo?


I wondered if they had a maximum number of characters to work with in
that name field, and chose (as I probably wouldn't have) to shorten it
in that manner.


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In article >,
Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Stan Horwitz wrote:
> > In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
> >
> >> Blinky the Shark said...
> >>
> >> > From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
> >> > Ketchups. Wow.
> >>
> >> <snipped for brevity>
> >>
> >>
> >> Blinky,
> >>
> >> How do you suppose Heinz comes up with all those 57+ varieties?
> >>
> >> They have some we haven't seen on USA market shelves...
> >>
> >> http://www.tinyurl.com/uuadl

> >
> > You can get imported Heinz items in some gourmet shops, which is where I
> > assume that photo came from. By the way, did you notice the misspelling
> > in that photo?

>
> I wondered if they had a maximum number of characters to work with in
> that name field, and chose (as I probably wouldn't have) to shorten it
> in that manner.


Perhaps.
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Stan wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:33:12 -0400:

??>>>>
??>>>> How do you suppose Heinz comes up with all those 57+
??>>>> varieties?
??>>>>

As I recall reading, the "57 varieties" comes from the early
days of the Heinz company and was chosen because Mr. Heinz
thought it sounded good not because it bore any real
relationship to the actual number :-) It seems a good number;
remember "The Manchurian Candidate", where over breakfast it was
decided after contemplating the ketchup bottle that there were
57 communists in the State Depatment.

James Silverton
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Stan Horwitz said...

> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark said...
>>
>> > From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
>> > Ketchups. Wow.

>>
>> <snipped for brevity>
>>
>>
>> Blinky,
>>
>> How do you suppose Heinz comes up with all those 57+ varieties?
>>
>> They have some we haven't seen on USA market shelves...
>>
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/uuadl

>
> You can get imported Heinz items in some gourmet shops, which is where I
> assume that photo came from. By the way, did you notice the misspelling
> in that photo?



I saw that. I agree with Blinky's explanation.

I thought the price was a mistake. $5.89 is a bit much for a can of
pudding!

Andy
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
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> From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
> Ketchups. Wow.


It's common for multinational companies to adapt
their products to local tastes while keeping
the same branding. I knew someone who bought
a pack of Marlboro cigarettes while travelling,
and she said they almost knocked her out -- they
were so strong. She was expecting her regular
cigarette.

If you like Old Coke, you can get it at many
Mexican food stores. They import Coca-Cola
from Mexico made with sucrose, rather than
high-fructose corn syrup. (The label on
Mexican Coke says either may be used, but
there would be no point in using HFCS in
Mexico, which is a major producer of cane
sugar.)
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"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
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> If you like Old Coke, you can get it at many
> Mexican food stores. They import Coca-Cola
> from Mexico made with sucrose, rather than
> high-fructose corn syrup.


*Much* better than the American Coke, IMO. I'm not a big soda drinker, but
I'd buy Mexican Coke from time to time when I lived in Houston.

Mary




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MareCat wrote:
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>> If you like Old Coke, you can get it at many Mexican food stores.
>> They import Coca-Cola from Mexico made with sucrose, rather than
>> high-fructose corn syrup.

>
> *Much* better than the American Coke, IMO. I'm not a big soda drinker,
> but I'd buy Mexican Coke from time to time when I lived in Houston.


My best friend went to the UK with his UK-born girlfriend. He swears
that a Coke he had there listed "vegetable juice" as an ingredient, and
he - a Coke fiend - said it was absolutely, make-a-face-and-spit-it-out
horrible. Skeptical by nature, I've pressed him for a cite on this, and
he can't find one. Has anyone here ever heard of this? Note: this was
back in the 1980s.


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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:46:37 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>> From another group. Look at the difference between these Heinz
>> Ketchups. Wow.

>
>It's common for multinational companies to adapt
>their products to local tastes while keeping
>the same branding. I knew someone who bought
>a pack of Marlboro cigarettes while travelling,
>and she said they almost knocked her out -- they
>were so strong. She was expecting her regular
>cigarette.


Same with mayonnaise: east of the Rockies, Hellman's, west of the
Rockies, Best Foods, north of the border, yech. I found out because
my local store got a shipment of Hellman's "Vrai" mayonnaise. I
didn't think much about it (except that the bilingual in the store is
usually Spanish) until I opened the jar and used it. The jar was from
Canada. I called and the person on the phone denied any difference
(probably didn't know), but the ingredient list was different. Now, I
read the label carefully!

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Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Tomato concentrate made from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high
> fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, salt, spice, onion powder, natural
> flavoring.


In Germany, it is tomatoes (126 g per 100 g ketchup, presumably meaning
it is a concentrate), spirit vinegar, glucose syrup, sugar, salt, spice
extract, herb extract, spices.

BTW, it is still in an old-fashioned glass bottle. Is this still the
case in the USA and the UK?

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Victor Sack wrote:
> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
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>> Tomato concentrate made from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar,
>> high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, salt, spice, onion powder,
>> natural flavoring.

>
> In Germany, it is tomatoes (126 g per 100 g ketchup, presumably
> meaning it is a concentrate), spirit vinegar, glucose syrup, sugar,
> salt, spice extract, herb extract, spices.
>
> BTW, it is still in an old-fashioned glass bottle. Is this still the
> case in the USA and the UK?


Here in Los Angeles, I don't see glass in the grocery, and as far as I
remember, I haven't for a long time; I think they've been plastic for
years. I might find it at the store that caters to institutional
cooking; the ketchup bottles restaurants offer at the table are glass.

Heinz is promoting lycopene, here. I took this for the other group
(from where I brought this discussion), so I may as well link it here,
too: http://blinkynet.net/stuff/lycopene.jpg

I suspect it takes a lot of 1.5mg servings to make much difference.
And, too, I've recently been hearing that antioxidents aren't all
they've been promoted to be.


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On Mar 9, 8:59 pm, Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Here in Los Angeles, I don't see glass in the grocery, and as far as I
> remember, I haven't for a long time; I think they've been plastic for
> years. I might find it at the store that caters to institutional
> cooking; the ketchup bottles restaurants offer at the table are glass.


I haven't had really good ketchup since my first wife and I canned it
in our kitchen in Illinois in the early '70s. It was so good, we moved
several bottles with us when we moved to Idaho.

I haven't had homemade ketchup since, but I remember it. Does anyone
here make their own ketchup, with fresh tomatoes? Good stuff.

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"dtwright37" > wrote in
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> I haven't had homemade ketchup since, but I remember it.
> Does anyone here make their own ketchup, with fresh
> tomatoes? Good stuff.


i do! no high fructose corn syrup either.
oh, & yellow tomatoes make a rather brownish catsup (i know,
it's my spices)
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:05:06 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote:

>"dtwright37" > wrote in
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>> I haven't had homemade ketchup since, but I remember it.
>> Does anyone here make their own ketchup, with fresh
>> tomatoes? Good stuff.

>
> i do! no high fructose corn syrup either.
>oh, & yellow tomatoes make a rather brownish catsup (i know,
>it's my spices)
>lee


Lee, could you post your recipe and method please?

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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On 10 Mar 2007 02:59:14 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
> > Heinz is promoting lycopene, here.

>
> But they don't mention that organic ketchup has almost twice as
> much lycopene (some sites say up to 5x as much as non0organic
> ketchup).
>
> Heinz supposedly has an organic ketchup and a low-carb version,
> but I've ever seen either.


Any major American grocery store should have both types of Heinz
ketchup. If you don't see either product in your favorite grocery store,
ask.

I collect bottles of Heinz ketchup from all over the world and I can
tell you that the flavor is adjusted slightly in some countries, for
example, its a bit sweeter in Canada and England. The bottle I have from
Greece was inedible; the flavor was just really strange. I got a friend
from Greece to read the bottle to try to ascertain why and he said the
ingredients list was too vague, but he agreed that it tasted different.
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