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"Chatty Cathy" > wrote

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I thought standard was the hot tap was on the left,
assuming you have separate controls. Of course, I'm
speaking of the US.

nancy

Chatty Cathy said...

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The bathroom off the kitchen has strange shower controls. The hot water turns
on clockwise and the cold water turns on counterclockwise.

Andy

On Mar 16, 11:23 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Chatty Cathy" > wrote
>
> >http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> I thought standard was the hot tap was on the left,
> assuming you have separate controls. Of course, I'm
> speaking of the US.
>
> nancy

Unless you have a dyslexic plumber putting in your piping. At work
the hot was on the right and the cold on the left. Now the darkroom
has become a copier room so the problem is no more.

maxine in ri

"maxine in ri" > wrote

> On Mar 16, 11:23 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> I thought standard was the hot tap was on the left,
>> assuming you have separate controls. Of course, I'm
>> speaking of the US.

> Unless you have a dyslexic plumber putting in your piping. At work
> the hot was on the right and the cold on the left. Now the darkroom
> has become a copier room so the problem is no more.

Worse, a friend of mine moved into a brand new place and
the water lines were switched so that the toilet water was
hot. That's the only plumbing problem she told me about that
I remembered. Ick.

nancy

Nancy wrote on Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:35:33 -0400:

??>> On Mar 16, 11:23 am, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

??>>> I thought standard was the hot tap was on the left,
??>>> assuming you have separate controls. Of course, I'm
??>>> speaking of the US.

??>> Unless you have a dyslexic plumber putting in your piping.
??>> At work the hot was on the right and the cold on the left.
??>> Now the darkroom has become a copier room so the problem
??>> is no more.

NY> Worse, a friend of mine moved into a brand new place and
NY> the water lines were switched so that the toilet water was
NY> hot. That's the only plumbing problem she told me about
NY> that I remembered. Ick.

The choice "hardly ever" was not given in the quiz and it would
have been appropriate since deviation from left--hot is very
uncommon but not completely unknown in the US.It often seems
random in Britain and I have had a few surprises in France when
I forgot that the label "C" stood for "chaud" (hot).

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

On Mar 16, 12:48 pm, "James Silverton"
<not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote:
> Nancy wrote on Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:35:33 -0400:
>
> ??>> On Mar 16, 11:23 am, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:
>
> ??>>> I thought standard was the hot tap was on the left,
> ??>>> assuming you have separate controls. Of course, I'm
> ??>>> speaking of the US.
>
> ??>> Unless you have a dyslexic plumber putting in your piping.
> ??>> At work the hot was on the right and the cold on the left.
> ??>> Now the darkroom has become a copier room so the problem
> ??>> is no more.
>
> NY> Worse, a friend of mine moved into a brand new place and
> NY> the water lines were switched so that the toilet water was
> NY> hot. That's the only plumbing problem she told me about
> NY> that I remembered. Ick.
>
> The choice "hardly ever" was not given in the quiz and it would
> have been appropriate since deviation from left--hot is very
> uncommon but not completely unknown in the US.It often seems
> random in Britain and I have had a few surprises in France when
> I forgot that the label "C" stood for "chaud" (hot).
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

Have you heard the joke about the bilingual hotel? Both taps have a
"C" : chaud and cold.
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

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Chatty Cathy > wrote:

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>
> Vote now!
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That was interesting... :-)

I don't think I've ever seen a faucet around here with the hot on the
right.
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maxine in ri wrote:

>
> Unless you have a dyslexic plumber putting in your piping. At work
> the hot was on the right and the cold on the left. Now the darkroom
> has become a copier room so the problem is no more.

Well.... we must have been over-run by dyslexic plumbers when they built
this house

Kitchen: hot on the right
Laundry room: hot on the left
Bathroom one: shower = right, wash basin = left, bathtub = right
Bathroom two: bathtub = right, wash basin = left

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On Mar 16, 11:09?am, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> Vote now!

A swivel mixer faucet is still left or right... and the correct term
is "single lever". In the US hot on the left is standard building
code. In most of Europe I don't think they have hot water... in
france and italy you're lucky to find indoor plumbing.

Sheldon

On Mar 16, 12:35�pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "maxine in ri" > wrote
>
> > On Mar 16, 11:23 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> >> I thought standard was the hot tap was on the left,
> >> assuming you have separate controls. *Of course, I'm
> >> speaking of the US.
> > Unless you have a dyslexic plumber putting in your piping. *At work
> > the hot was on the right and the cold on the left. *Now the darkroom
> > has *become a copier room so the problem is no more.
>
> Worse, a friend of mine moved into a brand new place and
> the water lines were switched so that the toilet water was
> hot. *That's the only plumbing problem she told me about that
> I remembered. *Ick.

Often toilets are fitted with a tempering valve, to prevent dripping
from condensation (a common fitting with wood floors). The tank water
is adjusted warmer as humidity increases... your friend may have the
valve set to full hot. Some toilets can be fitted with a plastic tank
liner to accomplish the same thing. My half bath has a hardwood
floor, but I have central air so didn't need to temper the tank
water. Even those who have tile floors (even if on a cement slab)
should consider tempering if located in a humid area, fitting the
tempering valve is a whole lot less expensive than repairing a rotted/
moldy sub floor.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:

>
> A swivel mixer faucet is still left or right... and the correct term
> is "single lever". In the US hot on the left is standard building
> code.

Well, I am not sure what the "standard" is here but, if you're
interested we have these:

http://www.cobra.co.za/images/Downlo...a%20Insert.pdf

I have a 292CA, One-hole Basin Mixer in one of the bathrooms and
something similar to the 166/041CA Sink Mixer with swivel outlet in the
kitchen

> In most of Europe I don't think they have hot water... in
> france and italy you're lucky to find indoor plumbing.

Good job that I live in South Africa then 'eh?

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"Sheldon" > wrote

>On Mar 16, 12:35?pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> Worse, a friend of mine moved into a brand new place and
>> the water lines were switched so that the toilet water was
>> hot. That's the only plumbing problem she told me about that
>> I remembered. Ick.

>Often toilets are fitted with a tempering valve, to prevent dripping
>from condensation (a common fitting with wood floors). The tank water
>is adjusted warmer as humidity increases... your friend may have the
>valve set to full hot.

Now that you mention it, I have heard of that, but this was
a wider mix-up involving all their faucets. I don't remember
if it was confined to their apartment unit, or if I even knew
that.

nancy

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message

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>
> Vote now!
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In the US, plumbing code says hot on the left. Period.

That's not to say that some are done wrong and aren't caught during
inspections.

BOB

BOB wrote:
> "Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>> Vote now!
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>> Chatty Cathy
>
> In the US, plumbing code says hot on the left. Period.
>
> That's not to say that some are done wrong and aren't caught during
> inspections.
>
> BOB

I'd like someone to explain the building code in regards to light switches,
if there is one. In my last three residences the light switch for the room
I'm entering, the light switch in the bathroom is always the furthest away
from my hand. In my two bathrooms the overhead fan switch is the one
closest to the doorway. I'd much rather have some light first, thanks!

OB Food: Marinated a chuck steak (meant to make it yesterday, didn't get
around to it). Fairly nice weather today so I'll be grilling it. Marinade
is just a little wine - white, this time - a splash of sesame oil, minced
garlic, minced onion, salt & pepper. Picked up some baking potatoes; might
as well do two or three at a time, they are easy enough to refrigerate and
reheat and you can always twice-bake them for a meal unto itself

Jill

"Nancy Young" wrote:
> "Chatty Cathy" wrote
>
> >http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> I thought standard was the hot tap was on the left.

I think both sides are hot, and Cathy was explaining how hers swivel,
so naturally my first thought was this survey was talking breasts!

Sheldon

James Silverton wrote:
>
> The choice "hardly ever" was not given in the quiz and it would have
> been appropriate since deviation from left--hot is very uncommon but not
> completely unknown in the US.It often seems random in Britain and I have
> had a few surprises in France when I forgot that the label "C" stood for
> "chaud" (hot).

And "hardly ever" would have been a helpful option, since just because
I'm perfect doesn't mean everyone is. All of my hot water taps are to
the left, but I have been to many other homes in which the plumbing is
skewed and hot is on the right.

<owwie>

Pennyaline wrote:
>
>
>
> And "hardly ever" would have been a helpful option, since just because
> I'm perfect doesn't mean everyone is. All of my hot water taps are to
> the left, but I have been to many other homes in which the plumbing is
> skewed and hot is on the right.

When I moved into my house the hot and cold were reversed in the downstairs
bathroom. Apparently the water lines had first been brought up to the
laundry room next door and then went straight through the wall to the
bathroom sink. When I redecorated the bathroom I had no problem rectifying
the reversed lines. I just got longer, flexible supply lines and crossed
them over.

I was tempted to put in a kitchen faucet with hot and cold valves instead
of the gear shift because my wife has a tendency to rinse things by shoving
the knob straight ahead and running warm water down the drain instead of
cold.

On Mar 17, 2:09 am, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
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>
> Vote now!
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> Chatty Cathy

The national building code in Oz is hot on the left, this includes
single lever types which are made that way (here at least). Anything
else is incompetent plumbing.

David

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I was tempted to put in a kitchen faucet with hot and cold valves instead
> of the gear shift because my wife has a tendency to rinse things by shoving
> the knob straight ahead and running warm water down the drain instead of
> cold.

It's actually a good idea to run warm/hot water down the kitchen sink
drain. In these days of automatic dishwashers not nearly enough hot
water goes down the drain. Rinsing scraps off dishes with cold water
just plugs up the traps and waste lines. A plumbing bill will be a
lot more than the few pennies worth of hot water. I'm not stingy with
the hot water and once a week I flush full hot water down all my waste
traps for about five minutes, including the bath... the water people
bathe/shower with is not nearly hot enough to dislodge all the hair
balls that form with congealed soap and especially hair conditioner.
And unless enough volume goes into the waste lines (a lot more than
you pee) the water won't swirl around the pipe's full cicumference,
only a small flow down the bottom of the pipe won't wash out all she
gloppy schmutz. Waste lines are purposely set at a particular optimum
angle so that water will swirl, but only if there's enough volume (too
steep an angle is not good either). Clothes washer water is not very
hot either, and with all that soap and especially fabric softeners,
the lint from clothes will clog those waste lines... so once a month
it's a good idea to run through the cycle with just full hot water,
and add a cup of bleach too, it will sanitize your machine... these
days with moderen fabrics people don't use much bleach, if any, so
their washing machines stink.... they only think they're washing
clothes.

Sheldon

On Mar 16, 11:52?am, Andy <q> wrote:
> Chatty Cathy said...
>
> >http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> The bathroom off the kitchen has strange shower controls. The hot water turns
> on clockwise and the cold water turns on counterclockwise.

That's how the really old shower sets operated, the same as those
ancient deep laundry sink decks. Those are extremely dangerous for
bathing, that's how folks, especially children and the elderly, have
scalded themeselves to death. In the strongest possible terms I
implore you to replace that fercocktah shower set with a modern one,
like right now! And anyone replaces a shower set or is building new,
direct your plumber to install a single lever shower set of the type
with a temperature limiter... the extra $30 is well worth it, can save
your child a terrible disfigurement.

Sheldon

"Dave Smith" > wrote

> I was tempted to put in a kitchen faucet with hot and cold valves instead
> of the gear shift because my wife has a tendency to rinse things by
> shoving
> the knob straight ahead and running warm water down the drain instead of
> cold.

I can say right now, someone tried that with me would get
to watch me rinse things with all hot water. Sorry, Dave.
(laugh)

nancy

In article >,
" BOB" > wrote:

> "Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
>
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
> > Vote now!
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Chatty Cathy
>
> In the US, plumbing code says hot on the left. Period.
>
> That's not to say that some are done wrong and aren't caught during
> inspections.

I live in a large 200 unit apartment building in New Jersey. There's a
huge laundry room on the ground floor on my building with two big wash
basins. One of the basins has the hot water on the right and the cold on
the left. That surprised me ten years ago, the first time I did laundry
there after I moved in. I went to wash my hands after putting all my
laundry in the washer and I damned near burned myself when I turned on
the right faucet under the impression it would emit cold water and out
came extremely hot water. I never did that again!

The sink in my parents' bedroom bathroom also operates that way. The
live in a home in Philadelphia. Their bathroom bathroom was added by my
father maybe 45 years ago in a row house that's circa World War II.

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> BOB wrote:
> > "Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
> >
> >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >>
> >> Vote now!
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >> Chatty Cathy
> >
> > In the US, plumbing code says hot on the left. Period.
> >
> > That's not to say that some are done wrong and aren't caught during
> > inspections.
> >
> > BOB
>
> I'd like someone to explain the building code in regards to light switches,
> if there is one. In my last three residences the light switch for the room
> I'm entering, the light switch in the bathroom is always the furthest away
> from my hand. In my two bathrooms the overhead fan switch is the one
> closest to the doorway. I'd much rather have some light first, thanks!

Why don't you change that? Fixing that sort of thing would probably be
fairly inexpensive.

Speaking as the son of a carpenter/contractor, I can tell you that each
community has its own set of building codes. The building codes in one
community can contain some very different requirements than a community
right next to it.

> OB Food: Marinated a chuck steak (meant to make it yesterday, didn't get
> around to it). Fairly nice weather today so I'll be grilling it. Marinade
> is just a little wine - white, this time - a splash of sesame oil, minced
> garlic, minced onion, salt & pepper. Picked up some baking potatoes; might
> as well do two or three at a time, they are easy enough to refrigerate and
> reheat and you can always twice-bake them for a meal unto itself

Gosh. I haven't even thought about dinner yet and I skipped lunch
because I ate a late breakfast today. I will just fix up something from
what's in my freezer, I guess.

Stan Horwitz wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> BOB wrote:
>>> "Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>>>
>>>> Vote now!
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Chatty Cathy
>>>
>>> In the US, plumbing code says hot on the left. Period.
>>>
>>> That's not to say that some are done wrong and aren't caught during
>>> inspections.
>>>
>>> BOB
>>
>> I'd like someone to explain the building code in regards to light
>> switches, if there is one. In my last three residences the light
>> switch for the room I'm entering, the light switch in the bathroom
>> is always the furthest away from my hand. In my two bathrooms the
>> overhead fan switch is the one closest to the doorway. I'd much
>> rather have some light first, thanks!
>
> Why don't you change that? Fixing that sort of thing would probably be
> fairly inexpensive.
>
I'm not allowed to change things like wiring in my apartment. And the
maintenance man, while very handy, isn't like to come over and rewire
electrical switches just because I don't like which one is first on the
wall.

>> OB Food: Marinated a chuck steak (meant to make it yesterday,
>> didn't get around to it). Fairly nice weather today so I'll be
>> grilling it. Marinade is just a little wine - white, this time - a
>> splash of sesame oil, minced garlic, minced onion, salt & pepper.
>> Picked up some baking potatoes; might as well do two or three at a
>> time, they are easy enough to refrigerate and reheat and you can
>> always twice-bake them for a meal unto itself
>
> Gosh. I haven't even thought about dinner yet and I skipped lunch
> because I ate a late breakfast today. I will just fix up something
> from what's in my freezer, I guess.

LOL I posted that yesterday and it was definitely time to think about making
dinner!

Jill

In article .com>,
" > wrote:

> On Mar 17, 2:09 am, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
> > Vote now!
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Chatty Cathy
>
> The national building code in Oz is hot on the left, this includes
> single lever types which are made that way (here at least). Anything
> else is incompetent plumbing.

My BIL used to live in Bangkok, in an apartment. The water tank was on
the roof. By the end of the day, both sides were hot.

Last I heard, he lived in a village in the Philippines. No plumbing.
The toilet was a hole in the ground. The spring was used as the water
supply, and for washing and bathing. The women all bathed together,
once a week, with their clothes on. The men bathed together once a
week, but a different day, with their clothes on.

In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Chatty Cathy said...
>
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
>
> The bathroom off the kitchen has strange shower controls. The hot water turns
> on clockwise and the cold water turns on counterclockwise.


Not too strange. I have two bathrooms. The sinks work differently. In
my experience, if there are knobs, they both work the same. If there is
a lever, they don't, and it's usually a quarter turn for full on.

In article . com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:


> That's how the really old shower sets operated, the same as those
> ancient deep laundry sink decks. Those are extremely dangerous for
> bathing, that's how folks, especially children and the elderly, have
> scalded themeselves to death. In the strongest possible terms I
> implore you to replace that fercocktah shower set with a modern one,
> like right now! And anyone replaces a shower set or is building new,
> direct your plumber to install a single lever shower set of the type
> with a temperature limiter... the extra $30 is well worth it, can save
> your child a terrible disfigurement.


The standard recommendation for houses with young children or old folks,
is to turn the temperature on the water heater down. That's what we did
when the kids were little.

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:


> Worse, a friend of mine moved into a brand new place and
> the water lines were switched so that the toilet water was
> hot. That's the only plumbing problem she told me about that
> I remembered. Ick.


Sometimes that is done on purpose. Cold water causes condensation on
the tank, which can cause mold and mildew problems, not to mention the
ick factor. Generally the hot and cold are mixed, though.

In article >,
Stan Horwitz > wrote:

> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:

> > I'd like someone to explain the building code in regards to light switches,
> > if there is one. In my last three residences the light switch for the room
> > I'm entering, the light switch in the bathroom is always the furthest away
> > from my hand. In my two bathrooms the overhead fan switch is the one
> > closest to the doorway. I'd much rather have some light first, thanks!
>
> Why don't you change that? Fixing that sort of thing would probably be
> fairly inexpensive.


Although I agree with you, I'm not sure I see the point. I have
fingers. I hold one out horizontally. A quick flip up, and both
switches are on. Pretty tricky.

We only have a light switch in our bathrooms. We have windows. Now, if
I could figure out how to open them.

ObPetPeeve: One switch that controls both the fan and the light. Well,
I don't need the fan on much of the time. I find it annoying.

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:54:36 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>
>ObPetPeeve: One switch that controls both the fan and the light. Well,
>I don't need the fan on much of the time. I find it annoying.

Why haven't you separated them? It will cost you a double switch and
a new switch plate if you do it yourself.

I have 5 controls in my bathroom. One for the lights over the tub (on
a dimmer), one for the light in the shower, one for the exhaust fan,
one for the heat lamp and one for the lights around the mirror.

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In article >, sf wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:54:36 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
> >
> >ObPetPeeve: One switch that controls both the fan and the light. Well,
> >I don't need the fan on much of the time. I find it annoying.
>
> Why haven't you separated them? It will cost you a double switch and
> a new switch plate if you do it yourself.

You snipped out the part where I said that I don't have this. When I
stay in a motel with this "feature", it isn't cost effective, there
isn't time and they probably don't want me doing unauthorized
construction work anyway.

Besides, I suspect there is only one line to the fixture. It would have
to be dissembled, the wires separated and another line run to the wall.
A lot of work for one night in a motel.


> I have 5 controls in my bathroom. One for the lights over the tub (on
> a dimmer), one for the light in the shower, one for the exhaust fan,
> one for the heat lamp and one for the lights around the mirror.

You are doing a lot better than me. One switch and one outlet per
bathroom. It's a starter home.

On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:53:44 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >, sf wrote:
>
>> I have 5 controls in my bathroom. One for the lights over the tub (on
>> a dimmer), one for the light in the shower, one for the exhaust fan,
>> one for the heat lamp and one for the lights around the mirror.
>
>You are doing a lot better than me. One switch and one outlet per
>bathroom. It's a starter home.

I've been in this house so long, it was the second remodel on that
bathroom. LOL! After a while you know what you want.

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