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I was at a Russian restaurant last year and they made chocolate
martinis. I have the ingredients- Three Olives brand chocolate vodka,
Godiva chocolate liquor and DeKuyper Razzmatazz (raspberry flavor). I
just don't have the proportions. I tried 1 part each and it was too
strong for me. I'd like to weaken it a bit without taking away from the
chocolate flavor. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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On Mar 24, 1:38 am, Bill > wrote:
> I was at a Russian restaurant last year and they made chocolate
> martinis. I have the ingredients- Three Olives brand chocolate vodka,
> Godiva chocolate liquor and DeKuyper Razzmatazz (raspberry flavor). I
> just don't have the proportions. I tried 1 part each and it was too
> strong for me. I'd like to weaken it a bit without taking away from the
> chocolate flavor. Any suggestions? Thanks.


Go less on the vodka (as it's most likely the highest proof of the
three), or cut it with half & half.

And - find another name for it. Why this is called a 'martini' is
beyond me.

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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:38:00 -0500, Bill > wrote:

>I was at a Russian restaurant last year and they made chocolate
>martinis. I have the ingredients- Three Olives brand chocolate vodka,
>Godiva chocolate liquor and DeKuyper Razzmatazz (raspberry flavor). I
>just don't have the proportions. I tried 1 part each and it was too
>strong for me. I'd like to weaken it a bit without taking away from the
>chocolate flavor. Any suggestions? Thanks.


google.com.... chocolate martini
You'll get lots of hits.

this recipe is at the top of the list (and I've "sampled" it)
http://www.drinksmixer.com

Godiva Chocolate Martini recipe


Ingredients:
1 1/2 shots Godiva® chocolate liqueur
1 1/2 shots creme de cacao
1/2 shot vodka
2 1/2 shots half-and-half

Directions:
Mix all ingredients in a shaker with ice, shake and pour into a
chilled cocktail glass.

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> Godiva Chocolate Martini recipe
>
>
> Ingredients:
> 1 1/2 shots Godiva® chocolate liqueur
> 1 1/2 shots creme de cacao
> 1/2 shot vodka
> 2 1/2 shots half-and-half


Other than vodka (for some people), what the heck does that have to do
with martinis?


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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> Godiva Chocolate Martini recipe
>>
>>
>> Ingredients:
>> 1 1/2 shots Godiva® chocolate liqueur
>> 1 1/2 shots creme de cacao
>> 1/2 shot vodka
>> 2 1/2 shots half-and-half

>
> Other than vodka (for some people), what the heck does that have to do
> with martinis?


It's a new millenium yuppie term for anything with vodka. Absolutely
nothing to do with martini's which are properly made with gin anyway.

Jill




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Ballbuster Bill wrote:
> I was at a Russian restaurant last year and they made chocolate
> martinis. *I have the ingredients- Three Olives brand chocolate vodka,
> Godiva chocolate liquor and DeKuyper Razzmatazz (raspberry flavor). *I
> just don't have the proportions. *I tried 1 part each and it was too
> strong for me. *I'd like to weaken it a bit without taking away from the
> chocolate flavor. *
>
>Any suggestions?


Hehe, you really don't wanna know.

Don't know what that is (and don't care) but it's not a martini.

This is a martini, anything else is NOT a martini.

MARTINI

3/4 cup gin
2 teaspoons dry vermouth
Green olives, with pimiento

Fill a cocktail shaker with ice; add gin and vermouth. Shake and
strain into 2 chilled Martini glasses. Garnish with an olive.

Serves 2.

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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:18:21 GMT, Plucker > wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:53:26 -0600, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Absolutely nothing to do with martini's which are properly made with gin anyway.

>
>Vodka martinis are more common than gin in the last decade or so.
>
>Time to wake up, sweetie pie.


Yeah! Tell that to my housemate, Jill. They'll take her fancy Chopin
vodka martinis outta her cold dead fangers... ;-)

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On 24 Mar 2007 08:18:38 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
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>sf wrote:
>>
>> Godiva Chocolate Martini recipe
>>
>>
>> Ingredients:
>> 1 1/2 shots Godiva® chocolate liqueur
>> 1 1/2 shots creme de cacao
>> 1/2 shot vodka
>> 2 1/2 shots half-and-half

>
>Other than vodka (for some people), what the heck does that have to do
>with martinis?


It's the glass, silly! Anything served in a stemmed glass is called a
martini these days.

Actually, I've noticed that bars and restaurants coming back to their
senses lately - they are starting to call those things "coctails"
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On 24 Mar 2007 07:57:46 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:

>Ballbuster Bill wrote:
>> I was at a Russian restaurant last year and they made chocolate
>> martinis. =A0I have the ingredients- Three Olives brand chocolate vodka,
>> Godiva chocolate liquor and DeKuyper Razzmatazz (raspberry flavor). =A0I
>> just don't have the proportions. =A0I tried 1 part each and it was too
>> strong for me. =A0I'd like to weaken it a bit without taking away from the
>> chocolate flavor. =A0
>>
>>Any suggestions?

>
>Hehe, you really don't wanna know.
>
>Don't know what that is (and don't care) but it's not a martini.
>
>This is a martini, anything else is NOT a martini.


Modify the below word "gin" with the words "Bombay Sapphire" and you
have a correct statement :-)

TammyM

>
>MARTINI
>
>3/4 cup gin
>2 teaspoons dry vermouth
>Green olives, with pimiento
>
>Fill a cocktail shaker with ice; add gin and vermouth. Shake and
>strain into 2 chilled Martini glasses. Garnish with an olive.
>
>Serves 2.
>




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jmcquown wrote:

> It's a new millenium yuppie term for anything with vodka. Absolutely
> nothing to do with martini's which are properly made with gin anyway.
>
> Jill
>
>

To me, martinis contain gin, not vodka. Unless specified.
I'm just an old fashioned (not the drink!) kinda girl
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"Demon Chunky Style" > wrote:

> On Mar 24, 1:38 am, Bill > wrote:
> > I was at a Russian restaurant last year and they made chocolate
> > martinis. I have the ingredients- Three Olives brand chocolate vodka,
> > Godiva chocolate liquor and DeKuyper Razzmatazz (raspberry flavor). I
> > just don't have the proportions. I tried 1 part each and it was too
> > strong for me. I'd like to weaken it a bit without taking away from the
> > chocolate flavor. Any suggestions? Thanks.

>
> Go less on the vodka (as it's most likely the highest proof of the
> three), or cut it with half & half.
>
> And - find another name for it. Why this is called a 'martini' is
> beyond me.


Exactly. If it has chocolate in it, it's not a martini.
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Goomba38 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> It's a new millenium yuppie term for anything with vodka. Absolutely
>> nothing to do with martini's which are properly made with gin anyway.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>

> To me, martinis contain gin, not vodka. Unless specified.
> I'm just an old fashioned (not the drink!) kinda girl


And didn't I say "which are properly made with gin anyway"? You may have my
olive, though. Nice garnish but I don't care for them

Jill


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jmcquown wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> It's a new millenium yuppie term for anything with vodka. Absolutely
>>> nothing to do with martini's which are properly made with gin anyway.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>

>> To me, martinis contain gin, not vodka. Unless specified.
>> I'm just an old fashioned (not the drink!) kinda girl

>
> And didn't I say "which are properly made with gin anyway"? You may have my
> olive, though. Nice garnish but I don't care for them
>
> Jill


I was just reiterating your sentiment. Martinis are made with gin.
My father used a twist of lemon in his when he didn't have olives.
I tried a "dirty martini" not long ago and found it dreadful.
I don't drink martinis, preferring my gin to be mixed with tonic and
lime instead. But I respect the classic drink and roll my eyes at
anything masquerading as a "martini" these days.
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> (TammyM) wrote:
> >Modify the below word "gin" with the words "Bombay Sapphire" and you
> >have a correct statement :-)

>
> Served *very* dry, it's the martooni of the gods, Tammy!


Yes, unlike most other cocktails a 2ni requires top shelf... the
quality of the gin matters but I prefer Boodles, not that I'd turn
down Bombay

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Goomba38 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a new millenium yuppie term for anything with vodka.
>>>> Absolutely nothing to do with martini's which are properly made
>>>> with gin anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>> To me, martinis contain gin, not vodka. Unless specified.
>>> I'm just an old fashioned (not the drink!) kinda girl

>>
>> And didn't I say "which are properly made with gin anyway"? You may
>> have my olive, though. Nice garnish but I don't care for them
>>
>> Jill

>
> I was just reiterating your sentiment. Martinis are made with gin.
> My father used a twist of lemon in his when he didn't have olives.
> I tried a "dirty martini" not long ago and found it dreadful.
> I don't drink martinis, preferring my gin to be mixed with tonic and
> lime instead. But I respect the classic drink and roll my eyes at
> anything masquerading as a "martini" these days.


Gotcha! When John visits next month we're going to have 'dirty mothers' in
commemoration of what we drank 28 years ago. Has no bearing on martini's.
They contain vodka, which seems to be the thing in "martinis" these days.
Vodka, dekypers cream de cocao and milk over ice. In deep glasses. We
weren't pretending they were martini's or pretending we were drinking them
just because the glasses were pretty

Jill


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Sheldon wrote:

> Yes, unlike most other cocktails a 2ni requires top shelf... the
> quality of the gin matters but I prefer Boodles, not that I'd turn
> down Bombay
>
> Sheldon
>


I can't say I recognize a lot of difference in gins. I don't drink
enough to notice. I lean towards Beefeater's or Tanqueray as basic
affordable brands. But heck, I've even purchased generic gin at the
military class six store before and been perfectly satisfied. Does that
make me a cheap date? lol.
I guess short of sitting down with all the various ones, it would be
hard for me to compare.
I don't drink scotch but always wanted to do a scotch tasting so I could
learn to tell the various points of them.
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:57:11 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:14:09 GMT, (TammyM) wrote:
>
>>Modify the below word "gin" with the words "Bombay Sapphire" and you
>>have a correct statement :-)

>
>Served *very* dry, it's the martooni of the gods, Tammy!


O.K. Now you're talking.

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jmcquown wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Godiva Chocolate Martini recipe
>>>
>>>
>>> Ingredients:
>>> 1 1/2 shots Godiva® chocolate liqueur
>>> 1 1/2 shots creme de cacao
>>> 1/2 shot vodka
>>> 2 1/2 shots half-and-half

>>
>> Other than vodka (for some people), what the heck does that have to do
>> with martinis?

>
> It's a new millenium yuppie term for anything with vodka. Absolutely
> nothing to do with martini's which are properly made with gin anyway.


That's what I thought. <sigh>


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jmcquown wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> It's a new millenium yuppie term for anything with vodka. Absolutely
>>> nothing to do with martini's which are properly made with gin anyway.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>

>> To me, martinis contain gin, not vodka. Unless specified.
>> I'm just an old fashioned (not the drink!) kinda girl

>
> And didn't I say "which are properly made with gin anyway"? You may have my
> olive, though. Nice garnish but I don't care for them


I just picked up a jar of olives stuffed with garlic. Mmmmmmmm!


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sf wrote:
> On 24 Mar 2007 08:18:38 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
> wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Godiva Chocolate Martini recipe
>>>
>>>
>>> Ingredients:
>>> 1 1/2 shots Godiva® chocolate liqueur
>>> 1 1/2 shots creme de cacao
>>> 1/2 shot vodka
>>> 2 1/2 shots half-and-half

>>
>>Other than vodka (for some people), what the heck does that have to do
>>with martinis?

>
> It's the glass, silly! Anything served in a stemmed glass is called a
> martini these days.


One word: abhorrent.

> Actually, I've noticed that bars and restaurants coming back to their
> senses lately - they are starting to call those things "coctails"
> again.


It's probably just me, but "cocktails" sounds 1920's or something.
Dated, I just don't know from when. Drinks, mixed drinks, okay. But
the only person I know who says "cocktails" is probably dead. Wait.
What I mean is that he was in his mid-seventies several years ago when
I noticed he always said "cocktail".


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> On 24 Mar 2007 07:57:46 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:
>
>>Ballbuster Bill wrote:
>>> I was at a Russian restaurant last year and they made chocolate
>>> martinis. =A0I have the ingredients- Three Olives brand chocolate vodka,
>>> Godiva chocolate liquor and DeKuyper Razzmatazz (raspberry flavor). =A0I
>>> just don't have the proportions. =A0I tried 1 part each and it was too
>>> strong for me. =A0I'd like to weaken it a bit without taking away from the
>>> chocolate flavor. =A0
>>>
>>>Any suggestions?

>>
>>Hehe, you really don't wanna know.
>>
>>Don't know what that is (and don't care) but it's not a martini.
>>
>>This is a martini, anything else is NOT a martini.

>
> Modify the below word "gin" with the words "Bombay Sapphire" and you
> have a correct statement :-)


That would be so much cooler if it was the booze that was blue.


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On Mar 24, 1:15?pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > Yes, unlike most other cocktails a 2ni requires top shelf... the
> > quality of the gin matters but I prefer Boodles, not that I'd turn
> > down Bombay

>
> > Sheldon

>
> I can't say I recognize a lot of difference in gins. I don't drink
> enough to notice. I lean towards Beefeater's or Tanqueray as basic
> affordable brands. But heck, I've even purchased generic gin at the
> military class six store before and been perfectly satisfied. Does that
> make me a cheap date? lol.
> I guess short of sitting down with all the various ones, it would be
> hard for me to compare.
> I don't drink scotch but always wanted to do a scotch tasting so I could
> learn to tell the various points of them.


Most people can't tell one brand from another by their third. By the
fifth (5th drink that is) no one can tell what brand they're drinking,
nor would they care... by the sixth they're only interested in the
olives anyway.

Sheldon

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>
> Go less on the vodka (as it's most likely the highest proof of the
> three), or cut it with half & half.
>
> And - find another name for it. Why this is called a 'martini' is
> beyond me.


How about Foofoo Chocolate Lady's Drink?
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> sf wrote:
>> On 24 Mar 2007 08:18:38 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Godiva Chocolate Martini recipe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ingredients:
>>>> 1 1/2 shots Godiva® chocolate liqueur
>>>> 1 1/2 shots creme de cacao
>>>> 1/2 shot vodka
>>>> 2 1/2 shots half-and-half
>>>
>>> Other than vodka (for some people), what the heck does that have to
>>> do with martinis?

>>
>> It's the glass, silly! Anything served in a stemmed glass is called
>> a martini these days.

>
> One word: abhorrent.
>
>> Actually, I've noticed that bars and restaurants coming back to their
>> senses lately - they are starting to call those things "coctails"
>> again.

>
> It's probably just me, but "cocktails" sounds 1920's or something.
> Dated, I just don't know from when. Drinks, mixed drinks, okay. But
> the only person I know who says "cocktails" is probably dead. Wait.
> What I mean is that he was in his mid-seventies several years ago when
> I noticed he always said "cocktail".


Wait long enough and you'll start using the term yourself. If you're lucky



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jmcquown wrote:
>
>
> > It's probably just me, but "cocktails" sounds 1920's or something.
> > Dated, I just don't know from when. Drinks, mixed drinks, okay. But
> > the only person I know who says "cocktails" is probably dead. Wait.
> > What I mean is that he was in his mid-seventies several years ago when
> > I noticed he always said "cocktail".

>
> Wait long enough and you'll start using the term yourself. If you're lucky
>



Too true :-)
Now that I am retired I am starting to enjoy the cocktail hour more than
ever. After arising at the hour my body chooses, instead of the alarm
clock, and having spent a day pursuing the things I choose to pursue, and 5
o'clock rolls around I utter the phrase " Oh look. It is cocktail time."
and my wife brings me a Manhattan a plate with some crackers and pate. :-)
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Bill > wrote:

> I was at a Russian restaurant last year and they made chocolate
> martinis. I have the ingredients- Three Olives brand chocolate vodka,
> Godiva chocolate liquor and DeKuyper Razzmatazz (raspberry flavor). I
> just don't have the proportions. I tried 1 part each and it was too
> strong for me. I'd like to weaken it a bit without taking away from the
> chocolate flavor. Any suggestions? Thanks.


The classical way is to dilute it with some Alfredo sauce.

Victor


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In article >, Koko says...
> >>Modify the below word "gin" with the words "Bombay Sapphire" and you
> >>have a correct statement :-)

> >
> >Served *very* dry, it's the martooni of the gods, Tammy!

>
> O.K. Now you're talking.
>
> Koko
>


You'll do better without using one of those over-priced, sissified gins
like Bombay. Gin is by its very nature not sophisticated and refined,
and when it's all gussied-up like Bombay or Tanqueray it loses its
essential character.

Try Beefeater or Plymouth. Overpriced but *not* sissified!


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> You'll do better without using one of those over-priced, sissified gins
> like Bombay. Gin is by its very nature not sophisticated and refined,


What defines a liquor as "sophisticated and refined" ??
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:53:10 -0400, Peter A >
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>In article >, Koko says...
>> >>Modify the below word "gin" with the words "Bombay Sapphire" and you
>> >>have a correct statement :-)


>You'll do better without using one of those over-priced, sissified gins
>like Bombay. Gin is by its very nature not sophisticated and refined,
>and when it's all gussied-up like Bombay or Tanqueray it loses its
>essential character.
>
>Try Beefeater or Plymouth. Overpriced but *not* sissified!


I tried Plymouth, based on the recommendations of some of the eGullet
folks that hang out in the spirits forum. I found that I liked it
very,very much.

And heretic that I am, I like it much better than Bombay Sapphire.

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Peter A wrote:
> In article >, Koko says...
>>>> Modify the below word "gin" with the words "Bombay Sapphire" and you
>>>> have a correct statement :-)
>>> Served *very* dry, it's the martooni of the gods, Tammy!

>> O.K. Now you're talking.
>>
>> Koko
>>

>
> You'll do better without using one of those over-priced, sissified gins
> like Bombay. Gin is by its very nature not sophisticated and refined,
> and when it's all gussied-up like Bombay or Tanqueray it loses its
> essential character.
>
> Try Beefeater or Plymouth. Overpriced but *not* sissified!
>
>



I like Seagram's. That's the most expensive gin I've tried. But just
for mixing with tonic or Rose's lime or Fresca, cheap generic gin is fine.

Bob
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:50:57 -0500, zxcvbob >
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snippage

>
>I like Seagram's. That's the most expensive gin I've tried. But just
>for mixing with tonic or Rose's lime or Fresca, cheap generic gin is fine.
>
>Bob


I like Seagram's also. That's my every day type gin for gin and tonic.
Right now I'm sipping Cluny scotch with a splash of water on the
rocks. I'll be going back to my summer gin and tonic pretty soon, it's
been warming up.

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Goomba38 wrote:
> Peter A wrote:
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>> You'll do better without using one of those over-priced, sissified gins
>> like Bombay. Gin is by its very nature not sophisticated and refined,

>
> What defines a liquor as "sophisticated and refined" ??


The perceptions of the drinker. Similarly, scotch - yes, any kind -
makes me think of paint thinner.


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On 24 Mar 2007 18:44:18 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
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>> It's the glass, silly! Anything served in a stemmed glass is called a
>> martini these days.

>
>One word: abhorrent.


I'm going to let you in on a little secret. *Nobody*, except those
who "don't drink" actually call say "martini". The only place I've
seen it is here in rfc. I don't know where these web sites get it
from.... maybe the pinnacle of gastronomy: Appleby's? It's a name and
-tini, like Appletini, chocolatini, etc. The original variant had no
-tini association, it was simply a Cosmopolitan, which was called
Cosmo for short.

Like I said before, -tinis are served in stemmed glasses. There is no
law against it.

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who had a very dry Bombay Sapphire martini served in a bathtub sized
stemmed glass (filled to the top) today

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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:00:32 -0600, Christine Dabney
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>I tried Plymouth, based on the recommendations of some of the eGullet
>folks that hang out in the spirits forum. I found that I liked it
>very,very much.
>
>And heretic that I am, I like it much better than Bombay Sapphire.



Drat! I forgot to "call" for Plymouth today when I ordered my
martini..... I'll remember Plymouth someday.

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sf wrote:
> On 24 Mar 2007 18:44:18 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
> wrote:
>
>>> It's the glass, silly! Anything served in a stemmed glass is called
>>> a martini these days.

>>
>>One word: abhorrent.

>
> I'm going to let you in on a little secret. *Nobody*, except those
> who "don't drink" actually call say "martini". The only place I've
> seen it is here in rfc. I don't know where these web sites get it
> from.... maybe the pinnacle of gastronomy: Appleby's? It's a name and
> -tini, like Appletini, chocolatini, etc. The original variant had no
> -tini association, it was simply a Cosmopolitan, which was called
> Cosmo for short.
>
> Like I said before, -tinis are served in stemmed glasses. There is no
> law against it.


In fact, this little secret has made it to Wikipedia: "A more recent
development that further offends martini purists is the use of 'martini'
(or the suffix '-tini') to refer to any flavored vodka cocktail served
straight up in a cocktail glass. For example, the appletini, the
chocolatini, or pineapple martini."

Perhaps this is why my regular waiter at the place I sometimes have
breakfast suggested an "appletini" once, a couple of years ago: "It is
the favorite drink of fictional doctor John Dorian in the television
sitcom Scrubs. He considers it a 'straight-guy drink' and often orders
it 'easy on the tini.'" Perhaps this popular series popularized the
drink. (Quote also from Wiki.)

> sf who had a very dry Bombay Sapphire martini served in a bathtub
> sized stemmed glass (filled to the top) today


So help me get the picture right...did you drink it or soak in it?


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On 25 Mar 2007 07:52:43 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
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>> sf who had a very dry Bombay Sapphire martini served in a bathtub
>> sized stemmed glass (filled to the top) today

>
>So help me get the picture right...did you drink it or soak in it?


It was very relaxing.... I came home and slept for several hours.

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