"The Cook" > wrote

> Last year there was a discussion about the Ugly (Ugli) Tomato.
> I just ran across this in one of my seed catalogs.
> http://www.tomatogrowers.com/beefsteaks3.htm
>
> Unfortunately I did not see it earlier when I ordered but plan to put
> it on my list for next season.

Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
the nurseries this year.

nancy (fingers crossed)

Nancy Young wrote:
> "The Cook" > wrote
>
>> Last year there was a discussion about the Ugly (Ugli) Tomato.
>> I just ran across this in one of my seed catalogs.
>> http://www.tomatogrowers.com/beefsteaks3.htm
>>
>> Unfortunately I did not see it earlier when I ordered but plan to put
>> it on my list for next season.
>
> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
> the nurseries this year.
>
> nancy (fingers crossed)

In my fairly sleepless state last night I turned on the TV and found an
Infomercial about tomato plants. They didn't mention this variety but said
you could get Beefsteak *climbing* tomato TREES. Only $32. Huh? And for
free they'd throw in another sort of tomato vine. Have your credit card
ready! The tomatoes looked sickly and pale. Trust me, it wasn't my
television set. It's not time for tomatoes here yet even were I so inclined
to try to grow them on my patio (which I'm not).

Jill

Last year there was a discussion about the Ugly (Ugli) Tomato.
I just ran across this in one of my seed catalogs.
http://www.tomatogrowers.com/beefsteaks3.htm

Unfortunately I did not see it earlier when I ordered but plan to put
it on my list for next season.

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Nancy Young wrote:
> "The Cook" > wrote
>
>> Last year there was a discussion about the Ugly (Ugli) Tomato.
>> I just ran across this in one of my seed catalogs.
>> http://www.tomatogrowers.com/beefsteaks3.htm
>>
>> Unfortunately I did not see it earlier when I ordered but plan to put
>> it on my list for next season.
>
> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
> the nurseries this year.
>
> nancy (fingers crossed)
>
>

Look for a local mom & pop nursery. A women operates one a few towns
from here and has 40+ varieties of tomato plants including the heirloom
types. And the interesting thing is they are half the price of the lower
quality plants at the big box place.

jmcquown wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "The Cook" > wrote
>>
>>> Last year there was a discussion about the Ugly (Ugli) Tomato.
>>> I just ran across this in one of my seed catalogs.
>>> http://www.tomatogrowers.com/beefsteaks3.htm
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I did not see it earlier when I ordered but plan to put
>>> it on my list for next season.
>> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
>> the nurseries this year.
>>
>> nancy (fingers crossed)
>
> In my fairly sleepless state last night I turned on the TV and found an
> Infomercial about tomato plants. They didn't mention this variety but said
> you could get Beefsteak *climbing* tomato TREES. Only $32. Huh? And for
> free they'd throw in another sort of tomato vine. Have your credit card
> ready! The tomatoes looked sickly and pale. Trust me, it wasn't my
> television set. It's not time for tomatoes here yet even were I so inclined
> to try to grow them on my patio (which I'm not).
>
> Jill
>
>

I think that was right after the vertical chicken cooker commercial. I
saw what was probably the same commercial. You hung the thing up, added
water and almost instantly had hundreds of tomatoes...

"George" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
>> the nurseries this year.
>>
>> nancy (fingers crossed)

> Look for a local mom & pop nursery. A women operates one a few towns from
> here and has 40+ varieties of tomato plants including the heirloom types.
> And the interesting thing is they are half the price of the lower quality
> plants at the big box place.

Funny you should say that. Just yesterday I visited a place that is
sort of out of the way, and they are turning their property into
an open-to-the-public type of nursery operation. I will be sure
to check with them. Nice young couple, I wish them the best.

nancy

jmcquown wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "The Cook" > wrote
>>
>>> Last year there was a discussion about the Ugly (Ugli) Tomato.
>>> I just ran across this in one of my seed catalogs.
>>> http://www.tomatogrowers.com/beefsteaks3.htm
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I did not see it earlier when I ordered but plan to put
>>> it on my list for next season.
>> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
>> the nurseries this year.
>>
>> nancy (fingers crossed)
>
> In my fairly sleepless state last night I turned on the TV and found an
> Infomercial about tomato plants. They didn't mention this variety but said
> you could get Beefsteak *climbing* tomato TREES. Only $32. Huh? And for
> free they'd throw in another sort of tomato vine. Have your credit card
> ready! The tomatoes looked sickly and pale. Trust me, it wasn't my
> television set. It's not time for tomatoes here yet even were I so inclined
> to try to grow them on my patio (which I'm not).
>
> Jill
>
>

I think I may actually try..since for once we're staying put for 3
years. What I really want to grow on my patio are these gorgeous
italian lemons that I see everywhere..they get almost as big as
cantelopes here...beautiful! But I'd have to ditch the tree in 3 years
when we move.

"jmcquown" > wrote
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
>> the nurseries this year.
>>
>> nancy (fingers crossed)
>
> In my fairly sleepless state last night I turned on the TV and found an
> Infomercial about tomato plants. They didn't mention this variety but
> said
> you could get Beefsteak *climbing* tomato TREES.

Now, you know I'm just getting over chipmunks in trees, now
I have to worry about tomatoes? (laugh)

> Only $32. Huh? And for
> free they'd throw in another sort of tomato vine. Have your credit card
> ready! The tomatoes looked sickly and pale. Trust me, it wasn't my
> television set. It's not time for tomatoes here yet even were I so
> inclined
> to try to grow them on my patio (which I'm not).

Where do they come up with this stuff. And I could buy a whole lot
of tomatoes for $32 plus shipping, with the added bonus they won't
be dropping out of my trees.

nancy

jmcquown wrote on Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:09:13 -0500:

j> Nancy Young wrote:
??>> "The Cook" > wrote
??>>
??>>> Last year there was a discussion about the Ugly (Ugli)
??>>> Tomato. I just ran across this in one of my seed
??>>> catalogs. http://www.tomatogrowers.com/beefsteaks3.htm
??>>>
??>>> Unfortunately I did not see it earlier when I ordered but
??>>> plan to put it on my list for next season.
??>>
??>> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have
??>> them in the nurseries this year.
??>>
??>> nancy (fingers crossed)

I may have missed some earlier stuff in this thread but are Ugly
tomatoes the same as "heirloom" tomatoes? Store-bought heirlooms
may taste good but they certainly look like the genetic
engineering had gone seriously wrong :-) I've been eating
tomatoes for longer than I care to admit but I don't ever
remember those peculiar shapes and colors when I was a child and
my grandfather never grew anything like them.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote

> I may have missed some earlier stuff in this thread but are Ugly tomatoes
> the same as "heirloom" tomatoes? Store-bought heirlooms may taste good but
> they certainly look like the genetic engineering had gone seriously wrong
> :-) I've been eating tomatoes for longer than I care to admit but I don't
> ever remember those peculiar shapes and colors when I was a child and my
> grandfather never grew anything like them.

Here's a little history:

http://www.seedfest.co.uk/resources/ugly-tomatoes.html

nancy

Nancy wrote on Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:06:18 -0400:

??>> I may have missed some earlier stuff in this thread but
??>> are Ugly tomatoes the same as "heirloom" tomatoes?
??>> Store-bought heirlooms may taste good but they certainly
??>> look like the genetic engineering had gone seriously wrong
??>> :-) I've been eating tomatoes for longer than I care to
??>> admit but I don't ever remember those peculiar shapes and
??>> colors when I was a child and my grandfather never grew
??>> anything like them.

NY> Here's a little history:

NY> http://www.seedfest.co.uk/resources/ugly-tomatoes.html

Thanks! It's fascinating how people stubbornly persisted in
passing down these varieties in their families!

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote

> Nancy wrote on Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:06:18 -0400:

> NY> Here's a little history:
>
> NY> http://www.seedfest.co.uk/resources/ugly-tomatoes.html
>
> Thanks! It's fascinating how people stubbornly persisted in passing down
> these varieties in their families!

(laugh!) Luckily for us. If you like tomatoes, and you see an
Ugly Ripe (sp), pick one up. It's a nice tomato, and I have seen
them in the stores during the winter, when a good tomato is hard
to find.

nancy

Nancy wrote on Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:06:18 -0400:

??>> I may have missed some earlier stuff in this thread but
??>> are Ugly tomatoes the same as "heirloom" tomatoes?
??>> Store-bought heirlooms may taste good but they certainly
??>> look like the genetic engineering had gone seriously wrong
??>> :-) I've been eating tomatoes for longer than I care to
??>> admit but I don't ever remember those peculiar shapes and
??>> colors when I was a child and my grandfather never grew
??>> anything like them.

NY> Here's a little history:

NY> http://www.seedfest.co.uk/resources/ugly-tomatoes.html

In addition to my thanks for the reference may I add that I have
been doing some investigation too and there is evidence that the
original tomatoes brought to Europe did not look like the
heirloom tomatoes I have seen in stores and may have been more
like cherry tomatoes and quite possibly often yellow in color.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

George wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> "The Cook" > wrote
>>>
>>>> Last year there was a discussion about the Ugly (Ugli) Tomato.
>>>> I just ran across this in one of my seed catalogs.
>>>> http://www.tomatogrowers.com/beefsteaks3.htm
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I did not see it earlier when I ordered but plan to
>>>> put it on my list for next season.
>>> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
>>> the nurseries this year.
>>>
>>> nancy (fingers crossed)
>>
>> In my fairly sleepless state last night I turned on the TV and found
>> an Infomercial about tomato plants. They didn't mention this
>> variety but said you could get Beefsteak *climbing* tomato TREES.
>> Only $32. Huh? And for free they'd throw in another sort of tomato
>> vine. Have your credit card ready! The tomatoes looked sickly and
>> pale.
>>
>
> I think that was right after the vertical chicken cooker commercial. I
> saw what was probably the same commercial. You hung the thing up,
> added water and almost instantly had hundreds of tomatoes...

Yeah, something goofy like that! Infomercials... I guess someone must by
the stuff, right?!

Nancy Young wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> Oh! I wish I could find plants. Maybe they will have them in
>>> the nurseries this year.
>>>
>>> nancy (fingers crossed)
>>
>> In my fairly sleepless state last night I turned on the TV and found
>> an Infomercial about tomato plants. They didn't mention this
>> variety but said
>> you could get Beefsteak *climbing* tomato TREES.
>
> Now, you know I'm just getting over chipmunks in trees, now
> I have to worry about tomatoes? (laugh)
>
>> Only $32. Huh? And for
>> free they'd throw in another sort of tomato vine. Have your credit
>> card ready! The tomatoes looked sickly and pale. Trust me, it
>> wasn't my television set. It's not time for tomatoes here yet even
>> were I so inclined
>> to try to grow them on my patio (which I'm not).
>
> Where do they come up with this stuff. And I could buy a whole lot
> of tomatoes for $32 plus shipping, with the added bonus they won't
> be dropping out of my trees.
>
> nancy

Silly! It was this hanging thing that grew tomatoes on it. They called it
a tree but it was really just a strange tomato vine holder-upper. And ONLY
$32. Call now!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> Now, you know I'm just getting over chipmunks in trees, now
>> I have to worry about tomatoes? (laugh)

>> Where do they come up with this stuff. And I could buy a whole lot
>> of tomatoes for $32 plus shipping, with the added bonus they won't
>> be dropping out of my trees.

> Silly! It was this hanging thing that grew tomatoes on it. They called
> it
> a tree but it was really just a strange tomato vine holder-upper. And
> ONLY
> $32. Call now!

(laughing) I guess I didn't read closely enough, I thought it was
a growing system that worked so well, your tomato vines would
grow grow grow up into the trees like a magic bean. Something
I nevered actually wished for.

nancy