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Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or
not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. |
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Davlo wrote:
> Can someone explain how you pre heat an oven? This old whine again? Why do you care? It's idiomatic English. Do you actually have trouble understanding it? Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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Davlo wrote:
> > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. It works for most people. You turn the oven on and heat it up to the required cooking temperature so that is ready to throw in what ever you cooking. |
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![]() "Default User" > wrote in message ... > Davlo wrote: > >> Can someone explain how you pre heat an oven? > > This old whine again? Why do you care? It's idiomatic English. Do you > actually have trouble understanding it? Yes, I do have trouble understanding it. Once it's preheated, do I turn it off and then back on to the actual required temperature. Also, I wonder if it's really necessary to lather, rinse and then *repeat* when I shampoo my hair. Do you have any pearls of wisdom on this dilemma too? Thanks for your enlightening edification. You rool dude!! Oh, and is idiomatic like idiotic? Please clarify (not like the butter). |
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![]() "Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > Davlo wrote: >> >> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or >> not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. >> Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > > It works for most people. You turn the oven on and heat it up to the > required cooking temperature so that is ready to throw in what ever you > cooking. Why doesn't this work for *all* people? How do you know it works for most people? Have you asked? I didn't get that memo. |
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On Apr 9, 5:01 pm, "Davlo" > wrote:
> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. Why are you called a troll when you probably don't live under a bridge? (And is it improper for a cooking board to not feed you?) |
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![]() "Davlo" > wrote in message ... > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or not. You > don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. Pre-heat...sheesh, > gimme a break. Pre- as a prefix generally indicates something BEFORE. Since you are heating the oven BEFORE using it to bake/roast/whatever, you are PRE-heating it. Simple. |
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On Apr 9, 4:01 pm, "Davlo" > wrote:
> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. Do anything you want to do, and have all the breaks you need. |
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![]() "RacinReaver" > wrote in message ups.com... > On Apr 9, 5:01 pm, "Davlo" > wrote: >> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or >> not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. >> Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > Why are you called a troll when you probably don't live under a > bridge? > > (And is it improper for a cooking board to not feed you?) > Geez - let's all take ourselves so seriously. I guess a little attempt at levity is something that some people can't fathom. |
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Davlo wrote:
> > "Default User" > wrote in message > ... > > Davlo wrote: > > > > > Can someone explain how you pre heat an oven? > > > > This old whine again? Why do you care? It's idiomatic English. Do > > you actually have trouble understanding it? > > > Yes, I do have trouble understanding it. I don't believe you. > Once it's preheated, do I > turn it off and then back on to the actual required temperature. Nonsense. If it doesn't instruct you to change the temperature, why would you? Only by being perverse (which you can do with almost any English sentence) can you pretend to have trouble with it. Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or
> not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. If that's a problem for you, come to Canada, where people routinely remove food from the deep freeze to de-thaw, or to un-thaw... And the streets are paved with ash-phalt... |
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"Davlo" > wrote in message
> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up > or not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some > vegetables. Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. Do you use a Ho****er Heater? Why would you heat hot water? BOB |
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"Davlo" > wrote in message
... > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. I do lot of "pre-eating." I eat before breakfast. I eat before lunch. I eat before dinner. I also eat before I go to bed but that is not technically "pre-eating." Mitch |
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" BOB" > wrote in message
... > "Davlo" > wrote in message > >> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up >> or not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some >> vegetables. Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > Do you use a Ho****er Heater? > Why would you heat hot water? > > BOB Because if you didn't heat it you would have COLD water. Mitch |
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And what exactly is pre-boarding an airplane? Does it have the same
time dynamics as pre-heating? http://chefofsteel.blogspot.com/ |
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On Apr 9, 5:01 pm, "Davlo" > wrote:
> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. Dear Davlo: I see you are getting a nitwit answer(s), trying to make YOU look like the nitwit. However, in newer (I don't know how new) conventional/convection ovens, the answer is: "While in a preheat mode, the convection fan will reach it's target temperature faster." This is different than just pressing or turning a knob to a certain 'bake' temperature. HTH Dee Dee |
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On Apr 9, 8:55 pm, "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> On Apr 9, 5:01 pm, "Davlo" > wrote: > > > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > Dear Davlo: > I see you are getting a nitwit answer(s), trying to make YOU look like > the nitwit. > > However, in newer (I don't know how new) conventional/convection > ovens, the answer is: > > "While in a preheat mode, the convection fan will reach it's target > temperature faster." > > This is different than just pressing or turning a knob to a certain > 'bake' temperature. > HTH > > Dee Dee I failed to mention also, that when the recipe says to 'preheat the oven,' that is an indication that the pan/dish will go into a 'hot oven,' as opposed to an oven that has not been heated to temperature. Dee Dee |
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Davlo wrote:
> > > >> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > >> not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > >> Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > > > > > It works for most people. You turn the oven on and heat it up to the > > required cooking temperature so that is ready to throw in what ever you > > cooking. > > Why doesn't this work for *all* people? How do you know it works for most > people? Have you asked? I didn't get that memo. I dunno. Maybe it's because some people are a little dense. |
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"Davlo" wrote:
> > Can someone explain. Um, pre heating = foreplay. Sheldon |
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![]() and a "near miss".. shouldn't that be a "hit" or a "near hit"? Davlo wrote: > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up > or not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some > vegetables. Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. |
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"Davlo" > wrote in message
... > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > What's the next thing you were planning to cook in the oven this week? |
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"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
.121... > "Davlo" > : > >> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or >> not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. >> Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > Qvpgvbanel.pbz Hanoevqtrq (i 1.1) > > cer·urng > > ireo (hfrq jvgu bowrpg) gb urng orsber hfvat be orsber fhowrpgvat gb fbzr > shegure cebprff: gb cerurng na bira orsber onxvat n pnxr. > > [Bevtva: 1895–1900; cer- + urng] > Michael Are you sure about this, Michael? |
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"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
6.121... > "JoeSpareBedroom" > > : > >> Are you sure about this, Michael? > > Lrf V nz ![]() > > Zvpunry I guess I shouldn't be surprised. |
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"Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" > wrote: > "JoeSpareBedroom" > > : > > > Are you sure about this, Michael? > > Lrf V nz ![]() > > Zvpunry Rot on the floor, laughing 13! |
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On Apr 10, 8:39 am, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
> wrote: > "JoeSpareBedroom" @n ews01.roc.ny: > > > Are you sure about this, Michael? > > Lrf V nz ![]() > > Zvpunry > -- > "The age of your children is a key factor in how quickly you are served in > a restaurant. We once had a waiter in Canada who said, "Could I get you > your check?" and we answered, "How about the menu first?"" > ~Erma Bombeck Huh? |
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:01:14 -0400, "Davlo" > wrote:
>Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or >not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. >Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > Pre-heating means getting the oven hot BEFORE you put the thing you're baking into it, rather than putting the dish into a cold oven and heating it up slowly. It doesn't make a difference for a lot of things but cakes are very temperature-sensitive. And obviously, if you only want to bake something for ten minutes, it's not going to be ten minutes going into a cold oven or you'll wonder why it's still raw. |
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"Karen AKA Kajikit" > wrote in message
... > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:01:14 -0400, "Davlo" > wrote: > >>Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or >>not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. >>Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. >> > Pre-heating means getting the oven hot BEFORE you put the thing you're > baking into it, rather than putting the dish into a cold oven and > heating it up slowly. It doesn't make a difference for a lot of things > but cakes are very temperature-sensitive. And obviously, if you only > want to bake something for ten minutes, it's not going to be ten > minutes going into a cold oven or you'll wonder why it's still raw. ....and maybe burnt on the bottom, from the element or burner being full-on during the preheat period. |
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Peter A wrote:
> > It's sad how many people misuse the prefix "pre." It means "before" so > pre-X means before X, as in a pre-nupital agreement. It does not mean > "already done" as it is incorrectly used in pre-peeled, pre-heated, etc. > You can buy peeled carrots or unpeeled carrots. You can bake in a heated > oven. > > I am waiting for this to be combined with the misuse of "de" in > "deboned" so that someone will buy boned chicken and call it pre-de- > boned. You're wrong. What's sad is how many espouse the meanings of words without ever consulting a dictionary. Meriam Webster And it's "preheat", no hyphen. pre?heat transitive verb Pronunciation: (")pre-'het : to heat beforehand ; especially : to heat (an oven) to a designated temperature before using for cooking --- pre- Function: prefix Etymology: Middle English, from Old French & Latin; Old French, from Latin prae-, from prae in front of, before -- more at FOR 1 a (1) : earlier than : prior to : before <Precambrian> <prehistoric> (2) : preparatory or prerequisite to <premedical> b : in advance : beforehand <precancel> <prepay> 2 : in front of : anterior to <preaxial> <premolar> pre?ad?mis?sion pre?adult pre?ag?ri?cul?tur?al pre?an?es?thet?ic pre?an?nounce pre?ap?prove pre?ar?range pre?ar?range?ment pre?as?sem?bled pre?as?sign pre?bake pre?bat?tle pre?bib?li?cal pre?book pre?break?fast pre?cap?i?tal?ist pre?chill pre-Christ?mas pre?clear pre?clear?ance pre?code pre?co?i?tal pre?col?lege pre?col?le?giate pre?co?lo?nial pre?com?bus?tion pre?com?mit?ment pre?com?pute pre?com?put?er pre?con?cert pre?con?cil?i?ar pre?con?quest pre?con?so?nan?tal pre?con?struct?ed pre?con?ven?tion pre?con?vic?tion pre?cool pre?cop?u?la?to?ry pre?crash pre?crease pre?cri?sis pre?cut pre?dawn pre?de?fine pre?de?liv?ery pre?de?par?ture pre?des?ig?nate pre?de?val?u?a?tion pre?de?vel?op?ment pre?din?ner pre?dis?charge pre?dis?cov?ery pre?dive pre?drill pre?dy?nas?tic pre?elec?tion pre?elec?tric pre?em?bar?go pre?em?ploy?ment pre?en?roll?ment pre?erect pre?es?tab?lish pre?eth?i?cal pre?ex?per?i?ment pre?fade pre?fas?cist pre?feu?dal pre?fight pre?file pre?filled pre?fi?nance pre?fire pre?flame pre?flight pre?for?mat pre?for?mu?late pre?fresh?man pre?fro?zen pre?game pre?gen?i?tal pre?har?vest pre?head?ache pre?hir?ing pre?hol?i?day pre?hu?man pre?in?au?gu?ral pre?in?cor?po?ra?tion pre?in?duc?tion pre?in?dus?tri?al pre?in?ter?view pre?in?va?sion pre?kin?der?gar?ten pre?launch pre?life pre?lit?er?ary pre?log?i?cal pre?lunch pre?lun?cheon pre?made pre?man?u?fac?ture pre?mar?i?tal pre?mar?i?tal?ly pre?mar?ket pre?mar?ket?ing pre?mar?riage pre?meal pre?mea?sure pre?me?di?e?val pre?meet pre?mei?ot?ic pre?men?o?paus?al pre?merg?er pre?mi?gra?tion pre?mod?ern pre?mod?i?fi?ca?tion pre?mod?i?fy pre?moist?en pre?mold pre?molt pre?mor?al pre?my?cot?ic pre?noon pre?no?ti?fi?ca?tion pre?no?ti?fy pre?num?ber pre?open?ing pre?op?er?a?tion?al pre?or?der pre?paste pre?per?for?mance pre?pill pre?plan pre?por?tion pre?pre?pared pre?pres?i?den?tial pre?price pre?pri?ma?ry pre?pro?duc?tion pre?pro?gram pre?psy?che?del?ic pre?pub?li?ca?tion pre?punch pre?pu?pal pre?pur?chase pre?qual?i?fi?ca?tion pre?qual?i?fy pre?race pre?re?ces?sion pre?re?cord?ed pre?re?hears?al pre?re?lease pre?re?quire pre?re?tire?ment pre?re?turn pre?re?view pre?re?vi?sion?ist pre?rev?o?lu?tion pre?rev?o?lu?tion?ary pre?rinse pre?ri?ot pre?rock pre?ro?man?tic pre?sale pre?sched?ule pre?screen pre?sea?son pre?sen?tence pre?sen?tenc?ing pre?ser?vice pre?set pre?set?tle?ment pre?show pre?slaugh?ter pre?sleep pre?slice pre?song pre?spec?i?fy pre?split pre?stamp pre?ster?il?ize pre?stor?age pre?strike pre?struc?ture pre?sum?mit pre?sur?gery pre?sweet?en pre?symp?tom?at?ic pre?tape pre?tax pre?tech?no?log?i?cal pre?tele?vi?sion pre?ter?mi?na?tion pre?the?a?ter pre?tour?na?ment pre?train pre?trav?el pre?treat pre?treat?ment pre?trial pre?trimmed pre?type pre?uni?fi?ca?tion pre?uni?ver?si?ty pre?vi?a?ble pre?war pre?warn pre?wash pre?wean?ing pre?work pre?wrap --- Sheldon |
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 18:54:08 -0400, "Davlo" > wrote:
> >"RacinReaver" > wrote in message oups.com... >> On Apr 9, 5:01 pm, "Davlo" > wrote: >>> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or >>> not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. >>> Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. >> >> Why are you called a troll when you probably don't live under a >> bridge? >> >> (And is it improper for a cooking board to not feed you?) >> > > >Geez - let's all take ourselves so seriously. I guess a little attempt at >levity is something that some people can't fathom. > The word "attempt" is the operative one, not levity. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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Mitch Scherer wrote:
> " BOB" > wrote in message > ... >> "Davlo" > wrote in message >> >>> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up >>> or not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some >>> vegetables. Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. >> Do you use a Ho****er Heater? >> Why would you heat hot water? >> >> BOB > > Because if you didn't heat it you would have COLD water. Would it be cold hot water? |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
... > Davlo wrote: >> >> >> >> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up >> >> or >> >> not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. >> >> Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. >> > >> > >> > It works for most people. You turn the oven on and heat it up to the >> > required cooking temperature so that is ready to throw in what ever you >> > cooking. >> >> Why doesn't this work for *all* people? How do you know it works for most >> people? Have you asked? I didn't get that memo. > > I dunno. Maybe it's because some people are a little dense. And what exactly is this "boiling water" thing? |
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"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
> Mitch Scherer wrote: > > " BOB" > wrote in message > > ... > > > "Davlo" > wrote in message > > > > > > > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat > > > > it up or not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash > > > > some vegetables. Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > > Do you use a Ho****er Heater? > > > Why would you heat hot water? > > > > > > BOB > > > > Because if you didn't heat it you would have COLD water. Not if I heated *hot* water? > > Would it be cold hot water? Possibly. I still want to know why anyone would heat hot water. ;-) BOB |
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In article >, "Davlo" >
wrote: > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. It's bringing the oven to the recipe-specified temperature before you put the goods into the oven. For some recipes, "oven spring" is important , for others, less so. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://jamlady.eboard.com - Comfort Food for Bob Pastorio, updated 3-16-2007 http://web.mac.com/barbschaller - blahblahblog - Orange Honey Garlic Chicken, 3-29-2007 http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor |
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"Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" > wrote: > "Davlo" > : > > > Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > > not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > > Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > Qvpgvbanel.pbz Hanoevqtrq (i 1.1) > > cer·urng > > ireo (hfrq jvgu bowrpg) gb urng orsber hfvat be orsber fhowrpgvat gb fbzr > shegure cebprff: gb cerurng na bira orsber onxvat n pnxr. > > [Bevtva: 1895–1900; cer- + urng] > > > Michael What's with the Rot-13? -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://jamlady.eboard.com - Comfort Food for Bob Pastorio, updated 3-16-2007 http://web.mac.com/barbschaller - blahblahblog - Orange Honey Garlic Chicken, 3-29-2007 http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor |
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BOB wrote:
> "Pennyaline" > wrote in message > >> Mitch Scherer wrote: >>> " BOB" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> "Davlo" > wrote in message >>>> >>>>> Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat >>>>> it up or not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash >>>>> some vegetables. Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. >>>> Do you use a Ho****er Heater? >>>> Why would you heat hot water? >>>> >>>> BOB >>> Because if you didn't heat it you would have COLD water. > > Not if I heated *hot* water? >> Would it be cold hot water? > > Possibly. > > I still want to know why anyone would heat hot water. ;-) Clearly, you've never experienced that bone-numbing yelp and heard someone yell frantically "The hot water's cold!" It usually happened in the morning. When I was a kid, we always had hot water heaters. We had an ice cream freezer, too, but it wasn't a freezer like a freezer, y'know? And it didn't freeze it, so we had to put it in the freezer afters anyway. So maybe that's why. |
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On Apr 10, 2:46?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Karen AKA Kajikit" > wrote in messagenews:hjmn13d48j5n4m4tc7db55mkquh06paiko@4ax .com... > > > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:01:14 -0400, "Davlo" > wrote: > > >>Can someone explain how you *pre* heat an oven? You either heat it up or > >>not. You don't Pre-boil a pot of water, or pre-wash some vegetables. > >>Pre-heat...sheesh, gimme a break. > > > Pre-heating means getting the oven hot BEFORE you put the thing you're > > baking into it, rather than putting the dish into a cold oven and > > heating it up slowly. It doesn't make a difference for a lot of things > > but cakes are very temperature-sensitive. And obviously, if you only > > want to bake something for ten minutes, it's not going to be ten > > minutes going into a cold oven or you'll wonder why it's still raw. > > ...and maybe burnt on the bottom, from the element or burner being full-on > during the preheat period. Not possible. |
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