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I ran across something totally new for me in my local supermarket.
Australian olive oil. I have never heard of such a thing. The brand is Red Island Australia, and when I got home, I found they have a web site: http://www.redislandaustralia.com/ Unfortunately there was no price tag on the shelf for it, so I have no idea how much it cost. Anyone else come across this or used it? -- wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:13:46 GMT, "wff_ng_7" >
wrote: >I ran across something totally new for me in my local supermarket. >Australian olive oil. I have never heard of such a thing. The brand is Red >Island Australia, and when I got home, I found they have a web site: >http://www.redislandaustralia.com/ Unfortunately there was no price tag on >the shelf for it, so I have no idea how much it cost. > >Anyone else come across this or used it? Sadly yes... some bright sparks decided that Australia didn't have enough problems with imported plants and started an olive kick. (I say 'sadly' because we all know how well olives grow in harsh climates - they can outcompete native plants quite easily...) |
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On Apr 11, 2007, wff_ng_7 wrote:
> I ran across something totally new for me in my > local supermarket. Australian olive oil. I have never > heard of such a thing... I noticed Australian olive oil at Trader Joe's yesterday. I haven't tried it yet. I guess if there can be California olive oil, then there can be Australian olive oil. |
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"wff_ng_7" > wrote in
news:_jbTh.3706$%l5.1189@trnddc05: > I ran across something totally new for me in my local supermarket. > Australian olive oil. I have never heard of such a thing. The brand is > Red Island Australia, and when I got home, I found they have a web > site: http://www.redislandaustralia.com/ Unfortunately there was no > price tag on the shelf for it, so I have no idea how much it cost. > > Anyone else come across this or used it? > Over here it was it started life as 'Njoi' olive oil. Obviously, they had to change the name so the damn ferriners would understand it :-) It's quite a good quality oil...... especially when it gets one of these..... Armonia Olive Oil Awards -Italy Redisland has won a "Gran Mantion Diploma" award at the prestigious, International Armonia Awards, held in Italy in January 2007. This confirms redisland's place as a premium, world class extra virgin olive oil and one of the best in the world. Here are the company details...... http://www.piquantblue.com.au/about.html#supermarket -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia "People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in the night to do violence to those who would do them harm" -- George Orwell |
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"PeterLucas" > wrote:
> Over here it was it started life as 'Njoi' olive oil. Obviously, they > had to change the name so the damn ferriners would understand it :-) I was wondering about that. The videos on their web site still have "Njoi" in them in some places, including on the shirts that some of the guys in them were wearing. I guess they didn't want to redo a perfectly good video just to replace the name. > Armonia Olive Oil Awards -Italy > Redisland has won a "Gran Mantion Diploma" award at the prestigious, > International Armonia Awards, held in Italy in January 2007. This > confirms redisland's place as a premium, world class extra virgin olive > oil and one of the best in the world. I did a search of "Australia" and "olive oil" in rfc before I posted, and the only references I found were announcements someone posted about that upcoming competition. There was no further discussion on the posts, perhaps because people considered them to be spam. So the competition happened, and they did well in it. Nice to know. -- wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net |
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In article >,
Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: > Sadly yes... some bright sparks decided that Australia didn't have > enough problems with imported plants and started an olive kick. (I say > 'sadly' because we all know how well olives grow in harsh climates - > they can outcompete native plants quite easily...) I don't know who fed you that line, but you needn't worry. Olives can reproduce from seed but rarely beyond the original grove. I've never seen a volunteer growing more than about 5 feet beyond the dripline and most of those are the result of ground squirrel activity. We've got a number of abandoned olive groves in my part of the world (California's Sacramento Valley) and they never expand beyond the original plantings. D.M. |
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"wff_ng_7" > wrote in
news:_jbTh.3706$%l5.1189@trnddc05: > I ran across something totally new for me in my local supermarket. > Australian olive oil. > My colleague's parents have a small farm on which they now grow olives, so he brings us a free bottle of oil now and then ![]() export, though. They are one of only two producers in Victoria that are certified organic. K |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:57:52 -0700, Donald Martinich >
wrote: >In article >, > Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: > > >> Sadly yes... some bright sparks decided that Australia didn't have >> enough problems with imported plants and started an olive kick. (I say >> 'sadly' because we all know how well olives grow in harsh climates - >> they can outcompete native plants quite easily...) > >I don't know who fed you that line, but you needn't worry. Olives can >reproduce from seed but rarely beyond the original grove. I've never >seen a volunteer growing more than about 5 feet beyond the dripline and >most of those are the result of ground squirrel activity. We've got a >number of abandoned olive groves in my part of the world (California's >Sacramento Valley) and they never expand beyond the original plantings. If olives don't go feral how come the South Australian government has had to officially address the problem in the last few years? Just type 'feral olives' into google and up springs a forest of references to the Australian problem. Here's just one brief abstract that summarises it: Résumé / Abstract The olive (Olea europaea L.), imported into Australia and subsequently cultivated for economic purposes, has spread into native vegetation in several regions of southern temperate Australia. The impacts of olives going 'feral' have only recently been quantified. It is reported that native plant species diversity and canopy cover was 50% and 80% lower, respectively, in a native eucalypt woodland heavily invaded with feral olives. Consequently, feral olives are considered an environmental weed as well as being proclaimed a Pest Plant in South Australia. The 1990s has seen a resurgence in the olive industry. In response to the risk that new olive orchards will be foci for invasion into natural ecosystems currently free from feral olives, risk assessment and management guidelines were developed by the Animal and Plant Control Commission in conjunction with an Olives Advisory Group. Local governments and prospective growers can use the guidelines when assessing the suitability of a proposed olive orchard. However, if olives have escaped from orchards into native vegetation, then their removal is paramount. Unfortunately, feral olive control is a very costly and time consuming exercise, and requires careful planning before doing so. In severe cases of olive infestations, the removal of olives may lead to other problems in fragile ecosystems. It can cost up to A$15,000 per hectare to remove a dense infestation of feral olives, such as the one described in this paper. |
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In article >, Donald Martinich > wrote:
>In article >, > Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: > >> Sadly yes... some bright sparks decided that Australia didn't have >> enough problems with imported plants and started an olive kick. (I say >> 'sadly' because we all know how well olives grow in harsh climates - >> they can outcompete native plants quite easily...) > >I don't know who fed you that line, but you needn't worry. Olives can >reproduce from seed but rarely beyond the original grove. I've never >seen a volunteer growing more than about 5 feet beyond the dripline and >most of those are the result of ground squirrel activity. We've got a >number of abandoned olive groves in my part of the world (California's >Sacramento Valley) and they never expand beyond the original plantings. It sounds like the Valley must have a suitable climate and soils for olives if they are self-sowing around the original trees (though perhaps the heavy seed fall in such circumstances would mitigate some environmental disadvantages). However, if you don't have an efficent dispersal mechanism (birds that swallow olives, for example) then that may be the reason they have not spread more widely over there? (Maybe it's our koalas rather than birds spitting the pips around. ;-) Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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In article >,
Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: > If olives don't go feral how come the South Australian government has > had to officially address the problem in the last few years? Just type > 'feral olives' into google and up springs a forest of references to > the Australian problem. Here's just one brief abstract that summarises > it: > > Résumé / Abstract > The olive (Olea europaea L.), imported into Australia and subsequently > cultivated for economic purposes, has spread into native vegetation in > several regions of southern temperate Australia. The impacts of olives > going 'feral' have only recently been quantified. It is reported that > native plant species diversity and canopy cover was 50% and 80% lower, > respectively, in a native eucalypt woodland heavily invaded with feral > olives. Consequently, feral olives are considered an environmental > weed as well as being proclaimed a Pest Plant in South Australia. The > 1990s has seen a resurgence in the olive industry. In response to the > risk that new olive orchards will be foci for invasion into natural > ecosystems currently free from feral olives, risk assessment and > management guidelines were developed by the Animal and Plant Control > Commission in conjunction with an Olives Advisory Group. Local > governments and prospective growers can use the guidelines when > assessing the suitability of a proposed olive orchard. However, if > olives have escaped from orchards into native vegetation, then their > removal is paramount. Unfortunately, feral olive control is a very > costly and time consuming exercise, and requires careful planning > before doing so. In severe cases of olive infestations, the removal of > olives may lead to other problems in fragile ecosystems. It can cost > up to A$15,000 per hectare to remove a dense infestation of feral > olives, such as the one described in this paper. I stand corrected. (And it was good that you added that corroborating abstract.) My experience with olives is limited to California and Croatia. Evidently you have much more efficient dispersal mechanisms than we havehere. Rabbits? Platypusses? ;=} I would add that our rainfall is only about 18 inches/year. We also have many old Eucalyptus planting in this region and they are also not invasive. On the other hand, we have had some pretty good rugby teams here at U.C.Davis (although U.C.Berkeley it tops this year) D.M. |
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:50:26 -0700, Donald Martinich >
wrote: >In article >, > Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: > > >> If olives don't go feral how come the South Australian government has >> had to officially address the problem in the last few years? Just type >> 'feral olives' into google and up springs a forest of references to >> the Australian problem. Here's just one brief abstract that summarises >> it: >> >> Résumé / Abstract >> The olive (Olea europaea L.), imported into Australia and subsequently >> cultivated for economic purposes, has spread into native vegetation in >> several regions of southern temperate Australia. The impacts of olives >> going 'feral' have only recently been quantified. It is reported that >> native plant species diversity and canopy cover was 50% and 80% lower, >> respectively, in a native eucalypt woodland heavily invaded with feral >> olives. Consequently, feral olives are considered an environmental >> weed as well as being proclaimed a Pest Plant in South Australia. The >> 1990s has seen a resurgence in the olive industry. In response to the >> risk that new olive orchards will be foci for invasion into natural >> ecosystems currently free from feral olives, risk assessment and >> management guidelines were developed by the Animal and Plant Control >> Commission in conjunction with an Olives Advisory Group. Local >> governments and prospective growers can use the guidelines when >> assessing the suitability of a proposed olive orchard. However, if >> olives have escaped from orchards into native vegetation, then their >> removal is paramount. Unfortunately, feral olive control is a very >> costly and time consuming exercise, and requires careful planning >> before doing so. In severe cases of olive infestations, the removal of >> olives may lead to other problems in fragile ecosystems. It can cost >> up to A$15,000 per hectare to remove a dense infestation of feral >> olives, such as the one described in this paper. > >I stand corrected. (And it was good that you added that corroborating >abstract.) My experience with olives is limited to California and >Croatia. Evidently you have much more efficient dispersal mechanisms >than we havehere. Rabbits? Platypusses? ;=} I would add that our >rainfall is only about 18 inches/year. We also have many old Eucalyptus >planting in this region and they are also not invasive. On the other >hand, we have had some pretty good rugby teams here at U.C.Davis >(although U.C.Berkeley it tops this year) > >D.M. They did say that it takes DECADES for olives to become a problem, and that it doesn't seem as if an active olive farm is any cause for concern because they're 'efficiently harvesting' all the fruit they can get and the seeds aren't being redistributed by the wildlife... the real concern is what happens if any of these shiny new olive farms go bust, or the owners lose interest and abandon them etc etc... it's not a problem now, but it could be an environmental disaster in twenty years. (and honestly, you'd have thought that Australia would have learned its lesson by now, what with rabbits and foxes and feral pigs and cane toads and goats and camels and... (I could go on, but you get the picture!) Today's 'easy money' is the next generation's 'my God why did they DO that?!' |
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