Nancy Young wrote:

> "wff_ng_7" > wrote
>
> > That's something I'm considering doing too, when my current car gives up
> > the ghost. There are car sharing services here that rent cars by the
hour,
> > without having to do the whole rental agreement crap every time. You
sign
> > up for the service, then you just schedule a car on the internet or
phone
> > and pick it up when you need it. There are two companies offering it
here,
> > Zipcar (www.zipcar.com) and Flexcar (www.flexcar.com). The closest car
is
> > a block from my house, and there are several others within about 5
blocks
> > of my house. They give you a "magic key", and you just walk up to the
car,
> > use the key, and drive off. Very simple.
> >
> > Mostly I can get around fine on public transportation, but if I needed a
> > car for some errand, I could just use one of these. It's a great service
> > for those who only need a car occassionally for a short time.
>
> What is the downside to that?? Geez. No insurance, no maintenance?
> Sounds like a no-brainer.


And in dense urban nabes don't forget parking costs, here in Chicawgo that
can easily run you several hundreds per month for garage parking in a
residential area.. Not to mention the insane prices for a few hours of
parking in a public garage in places like Manhattan, Chicawgo's Loop, etc...

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Greg

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> And in dense urban nabes don't forget parking costs, here in Chicawgo that
> can easily run you several hundreds per month for garage parking in a
> residential area.. Not to mention the insane prices for a few hours of
> parking in a public garage in places like Manhattan, Chicawgo's Loop,
> etc...

And even if you have a free parking space that came with your home, if you
don't have a car, you can rent the space out. That's what several of my
neighbors do. There's plenty of demand for it both from households with more
than one car, and from office workers in the area. Though I live on a
residential street, the office district is only a block away.

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wff_ng_7 wrote:

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> > If I lived in, say, Manhattan, you would not catch me owning a car.
> > Subway is a-ok with me. Everyone just wants to get where they
> > are going.
>
> Here in Washington, DC it's not quite as good as NYC, but you can get
around
> pretty well without a car. I read an interesting statistic in a community
> guide this morning. It said nearly 40% of Washingtonians are carless.
That's
> the city, not the metro area of course.


I have visited DC many times, your area has got a great public transit
system. That includes things like MARC commuter rail, Fairfax County
Connector, VRE, etc. It's all pretty well - integrated. Frex I've flown
into BWI airport and thence travelled down to DC on MARC, gets you right
into Union Station and where you want to go...

I've also taken the bus to places like Mount Vernon, etc. No problem. The
only places I've visited out there that lack public transport are the
Delmarva shore area, but I've taken the Greyhound from DC out to Rehobeth
Beach, it's do - able. And Delmarva is really not the DC metro area
anyways...

The big brains of Chicawgo transit have FINALLY got together and decided
that one pass will cover public transport in the greater metro area (CTA,
Pace suburban services, etc.). I'm like "Duh!". Does it take any great
intelligence to implement this, folks have been clamoring about this for
years...


> I'm particularly lucky in my location. I've got a rowhouse with off street
> parking and four of the five subway lines are within easy walking
distance.
> The fifth subway line is three stops away. Then there's the buses and the
> taxis. It's great to be able to just flag one down because so many are
> running around.


Lucky you, I just love that DC Metro, after riding the scummy Chicawgo L
it's a real treat. When I've returned from DC and board the L train at
O'Hare, I always think, "Uh - oh, back to reality, we are not on the Metro
anymore...".

One thing about DC is that the central area is pretty compact, so it's
easily traversed even by walking. I usually stay up in Dupont and on a nice
day I can walk to pretty near everything, even over to Arlington Cemetery,
etc...good exercise! It's a great town for walking...


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Greg

In article >,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> Emma Thackery wrote:

> > According to various studies including ones done by UMich and the
> > Lawrence Berkeley National Labs, SUVs are the most dangerous vehicles on
> > the road. The SUV rollover problem...
> >
> > <http://www.suvrollovernews.com/>
>
> Again, totally distorted to produce the predetermined conclusion.

Ah yes... the response I was expecting from you--- from someone prone to
labels like "bozo", "****-poor", and "uppity". Faced with fact, you can
only make more unsubstantiated claims--- ones convenient to your own
life style of course. You remind me of a small child in a temper
tantrum still yelling "No, I won't take a bath!" after the parents have
already turned on the water and placed him in the tub.

Yours seems to be a self-indulgent, visionless, hardened kind of a
world, Pete, unfettered by any feeling of obligation or responsibility
toward others. It isn't that you drive a truck or a SUV. It's that you
can't accept that how you behave affects others or has consequences.
You can't seem to grasp that by taking just a little bit of time to look
honestly and examine all sides of an issue, you might actually learn
something and improve your own knowledge base or even your own life.

I didn't really know I felt quite so strongly about this until I read
your posts. But I've wasted enough of my time on you. As the saying
goes, a closed mind is like a closed book--- just a block of wood.

Emma Thackery wrote:
>
> In article >,
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
> > Emma Thackery wrote:
>
> > > According to various studies including ones done by UMich and the
> > > Lawrence Berkeley National Labs, SUVs are the most dangerous vehicles on
> > > the road. The SUV rollover problem...
> > >
> > > <http://www.suvrollovernews.com/>
> >
> > Again, totally distorted to produce the predetermined conclusion.
>
> Ah yes... the response I was expecting from you--- from someone prone to
> labels like "bozo", "****-poor", and "uppity". Faced with fact, you can
> only make more unsubstantiated claims--- ones convenient to your own
> life style of course. You remind me of a small child in a temper
> tantrum still yelling "No, I won't take a bath!" after the parents have
> already turned on the water and placed him in the tub.
>
> Yours seems to be a self-indulgent, visionless, hardened kind of a
> world, Pete, unfettered by any feeling of obligation or responsibility
> toward others. It isn't that you drive a truck or a SUV. It's that you
> can't accept that how you behave affects others or has consequences.
> You can't seem to grasp that by taking just a little bit of time to look
> honestly and examine all sides of an issue, you might actually learn
> something and improve your own knowledge base or even your own life.
>
> I didn't really know I felt quite so strongly about this until I read
> your posts. But I've wasted enough of my time on you. As the saying
> goes, a closed mind is like a closed book--- just a block of wood.

What a pathetic tirade. Since you don't have any objective response to
the facts I presented you try character assassination. Ultimately every
argument you come up with to try to support your essential claim that
nobody needs a large vehicle falls utterly flat.

"Goomba38" > wrote

> Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote on 15 Apr 2007 in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> Of course, if that's what someone wants, no skin off my teeth. Just,
>>> for me, I have different priorities. Not better, just different.

>> Are your priorities.... Italian Sausage?...No?
>> pancetta?
>> peameal Bacon?
>> leg of Lamb?
>> The first Grilled burger of the season?
>
> Taylor Pork Roll is what Nancy is known for

Haha! Actually bought some yesterday, 2 small packages of the
thick cut. They were buy one get one free. Already forgot I
had it.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:

>> Taylor Pork Roll is what Nancy is known for
>
> Haha! Actually bought some yesterday, 2 small packages of the
> thick cut. They were buy one get one free. Already forgot I
> had it.
>
> nancy

I have one in my fridge I forgot I had too. Thick cut, but I prefer the
thin stuff. Actually I prefer the canvas wrapped roll but can't get that
here....

"Pete C." > wrote in
:

> It started with meat prices going up due to cattle feed
> prices going up due to corn demand for ethanol fuel
> production, so it was tied to cars from the beginning.

which is pretty funny actually. in this week's issue of the
farm report, it says that livestock feed prices will increase
slightly less than $1.00 per hundredweight, mostly in the
western states. the northeast feeds mostly forage, so it's a
non-issue here for the most part.
lee

Vilco wrote:
>
> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> > I like small cars and don't like SUVs, but I feel
> > like I'm endangered by other drivers who have SUVs.
>
> Totally agree. My nightmare is the average SUV-riding blonde,
> driving from the hairdresser to her son's school...

And now you can convert your SUV into a tank.

http://www.mattracks.com/

Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> Vilco wrote:
> >
> > Mark Thorson wrote:
> >
> > > I like small cars and don't like SUVs, but I feel
> > > like I'm endangered by other drivers who have SUVs.
> >
> > Totally agree. My nightmare is the average SUV-riding blonde,
> > driving from the hairdresser to her son's school...
>
> And now you can convert your SUV into a tank.
>
> http://www.mattracks.com/

Yes, but a set of those cost more than the vehicle they go on.

In article >,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> Mark Thorson wrote:
> >
> > Vilco wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark Thorson wrote:
> > >
> > > > I like small cars and don't like SUVs, but I feel
> > > > like I'm endangered by other drivers who have SUVs.
> > >
> > > Totally agree. My nightmare is the average SUV-riding blonde,
> > > driving from the hairdresser to her son's school...
> >
> > And now you can convert your SUV into a tank.
> >
> > http://www.mattracks.com/
>
> Yes, but a set of those cost more than the vehicle they go on.

Ultimate redneck "tires". ;-)

I've passed that website on to some redneck buddies of mine! <lol>

Wonderful Sunday yesterday. Nathan pit BBQ'd one of his famous briskets
for 15 hours at about 250 degrees. He makes the best damned briskets of
all the locals I know!

Held a skeet shooting party at his property. ;-) About 300 shotgun
rounds later, the party finally ran out of clays. <G>

Unfortunately, I'm not that good at skeet. I can only hit about 1 out of
5 with my 28" pump Mossberg. I managed to redeem myself tho' at 25 yard
..22 rifle with open sites, free standing... Shot a 8" group. Not good by
_my_ standards, but they were impressed. Fortunately, I'd sighted that
rifle in using a sandbag rest at the range the previous day. It was
shooting 3" high and 6" to the left. The rear site badly needed zeroing.

The rest of the food was potluck including some cast iron skillet
cornbread and a killer pasta salad made by the host's SO. Another
notable dish was Lynn's deviled eggs. I've got to snitch her recipe!
Only thing is, I cringe at the fact that she makes it with Miracle Whip,
and I like it! I normally hate that stuff.
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