Like many men, most of my cooking is done on a barbecue. This used to
generate condescending looks and remarks about burning meat. So to
give myself a bit more credibility I started making my own burgers.

To any guys who would like to cook more but aren't sure how to start,
I recommend giving this a try.

They're dead easy. Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
then flatten into a burger shape.

They cook in about 10 minutes (just turn them once) and taste better
than anything you'll buy in a packet.

Once you've made the basic recipe you can use the same method for
cheeseburgers, lamb and mint or pork and apple. It also works for
kebabs. These taste great with some Indian spices.

This may be a bit simple for this group, but we've all got to start
somewhere.

John
www.morgans-net.com

In article . com>,
John Morgan > wrote:

> Like many men, most of my cooking is done on a barbecue. This used to
> generate condescending looks and remarks about burning meat. So to
> give myself a bit more credibility I started making my own burgers.
>
> To any guys who would like to cook more but aren't sure how to start,
> I recommend giving this a try.
>
> They're dead easy. Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
> then flatten into a burger shape.
>
> They cook in about 10 minutes (just turn them once) and taste better
> than anything you'll buy in a packet.
>
> Once you've made the basic recipe you can use the same method for
> cheeseburgers, lamb and mint or pork and apple. It also works for
> kebabs. These taste great with some Indian spices.
>
> This may be a bit simple for this group, but we've all got to start
> somewhere.
>
> John
> www.morgans-net.com

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On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:53:07 GMT, jay > wrote:

>On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
>
>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
>> then flatten into a burger shape.
>
>You made meat loaf.

No he didn't... he made burgers that taste a darn sight better than a
'slab-o'-dead-cow'... besides, he didn't put breadcrumbs in. (if you
want REALLY good burgers, put two carrots, a tomato and a celery stick
into the food processor and grind them up into a paste, and mix THAT
into the beef - but then you'll really need the egg as a binder or
they'll fall apart!)

Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:53:07 GMT, jay > wrote:
>
>> On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
>>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
>>> then flatten into a burger shape.
>> You made meat loaf.
>
> No he didn't... he made burgers that taste a darn sight better than a
> 'slab-o'-dead-cow'... besides, he didn't put breadcrumbs in. (if you
> want REALLY good burgers, put two carrots, a tomato and a celery stick
> into the food processor and grind them up into a paste, and mix THAT
> into the beef - but then you'll really need the egg as a binder or
> they'll fall apart!)

I also agree about it being a meatloaf. Nothing wrong with that but a
good burger is simply some freshly ground fatty beef (such as chuck)
with a grind of pepper.

On May 14, 11:40 am, George > wrote:
> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:53:07 GMT, jay > wrote:
>
> >> On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
>
> >>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
> >>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
> >>> then flatten into a burger shape.
> >> You made meat loaf.
>
> > No he didn't... he made burgers that taste a darn sight better than a
> > 'slab-o'-dead-cow'... besides, he didn't put breadcrumbs in. (if you
> > want REALLY good burgers, put two carrots, a tomato and a celery stick
> > into the food processor and grind them up into a paste, and mix THAT
> > into the beef - but then you'll really need the egg as a binder or
> > they'll fall apart!)
>
> I also agree about it being a meatloaf. Nothing wrong with that but a
> good burger is simply some freshly ground fatty beef (such as chuck)
> with a grind of pepper.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

beef burger is a slab of cow but i like it like that...to each his
own.

John Morgan wrote:


> They're dead easy. Just take some beef mine, onion

Ugh, onion. That just ruined them.




Brian

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In article >,
George > wrote:

> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:53:07 GMT, jay > wrote:
> >
> >> On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
> >>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
> >>> then flatten into a burger shape.
> >> You made meat loaf.
> >
> > No he didn't... he made burgers that taste a darn sight better than a
> > 'slab-o'-dead-cow'... besides, he didn't put breadcrumbs in. (if you
> > want REALLY good burgers, put two carrots, a tomato and a celery stick
> > into the food processor and grind them up into a paste, and mix THAT
> > into the beef - but then you'll really need the egg as a binder or
> > they'll fall apart!)
>
> I also agree about it being a meatloaf. Nothing wrong with that but a
> good burger is simply some freshly ground fatty beef (such as chuck)
> with a grind of pepper.

I like to mix fresh minced herbs in mine, but no veggies.

I prefer to serve the grilled veggies on the side!
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John Morgan wrote:
> Like many men, most of my cooking is done on a barbecue.

Just to clarify: you aren't barbecuing, you're grilling. What you are
cooking on is a grill, not a barbecue. Barbecue isn't a piece of equipment,
it is food.

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Dave
www.davebbq.com

John Morgan wrote:
> Like many men, most of my cooking is done on a barbecue. This used to
> generate condescending *looks and remarks about burning meat. So to
> give myself a bit more credibility I started making my own burgers.
>
> To any guys who would like to cook more but aren't sure how to start,
> I recommend giving this a try.
>
> They're dead easy. Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
> then flatten into a burger shape.
>
> They cook in about 10 minutes (just turn them once) and taste better
> than anything you'll buy in a packet.
>
> Once you've made the basic recipe you can use the same method for
> cheeseburgers, lamb and mint or pork and apple. It also works for
> kebabs. These taste great with some Indian spices.
>
> This may be a bit simple for this group, but we've all got to start
> somewhere.

Um, what you describe is not bbq, it's plain old grilling... and if
you're using preground stupidmarket mystery meat no matter how you
attempt to cover up its stench with additions you're still grilling
crap. And what makes you think men have some kind of grilling
dominance over women, you sexist pig.

Sheldon

John Morgan > wrote:

> They're dead easy. Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
> then flatten into a burger shape.

You've made some grilled rissoles.

Victor

"John Morgan" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Like many men, most of my cooking is done on a barbecue. This used to
> generate condescending looks and remarks about burning meat. So to
> give myself a bit more credibility I started making my own burgers.
>
>
You have to wear levis, and something grubby on top. You have
to have a beer in your hand when you are leaning over your grill, in an
almost orgiastic fashion. Then you have to thump your chest hard
with both fists when the burgers come off the grill onto a soggy
Safeway bun.

Kent

jay wrote:
> On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
>
>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
>> then flatten into a burger shape.
>
> You made meat loaf.
>
> jay

That was my instant thought, too, Jay. What's wrong with ground meat
seasoned with a little salt and pepper, well, and garlic - but I figured
that was understood.

kili

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> jay wrote:
> > You made meat loaf.
....
> That was my instant thought, too, Jay. What's wrong with ground meat
> seasoned with a little salt and pepper, well, and garlic - but I figured
> that was understood.

My thoughts exactly. I figure as soon as the egg goes into the ground meat,
you've got meat loaf.

Then again, you could always call them meat loaf burgers.

Regardless, I'll bet they tasted just fine!

EZ

George wrote:
> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:53:07 GMT, jay > wrote:
>>
>>> On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
>>>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few
>>>> balls then flatten into a burger shape.
>>> You made meat loaf.
>>
>> No he didn't... he made burgers that taste a darn sight better than a
>> 'slab-o'-dead-cow'... besides, he didn't put breadcrumbs in. (if you
>> want REALLY good burgers, put two carrots, a tomato and a celery
>> stick into the food processor and grind them up into a paste, and
>> mix THAT into the beef - but then you'll really need the egg as a
>> binder or they'll fall apart!)
>
> I also agree about it being a meatloaf. Nothing wrong with that but a
> good burger is simply some freshly ground fatty beef (such as chuck)
> with a grind of pepper.

I agree with you, George. Give me some decent ground beef (and no, I don't
have a grinder, Sheldon; I don't have room for the extra kitchen
"appliances" I already have - some of which are stored in my 2nd bathroom -
otherwise I might consider one) and keep it simple. I do add salt when they
come off the grill (but only to my burger; others may salt as they wish).

Jill

On 15 May, 16:13, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> George wrote:
> > Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
> >> On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:53:07 GMT, jay > wrote:
>
> >>> On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
>
> >>>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
> >>>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few
> >>>> balls then flatten into a burger shape.
> >>> You made meat loaf.
>
> >> No he didn't... he made burgers that taste a darn sight better than a
> >> 'slab-o'-dead-cow'... besides, he didn't put breadcrumbs in. (if you
> >> want REALLY good burgers, put two carrots, a tomato and a celery
> >> stick into the food processor and grind them up into a paste, and
> >> mix THAT into the beef - but then you'll really need the egg as a
> >> binder or they'll fall apart!)
>
> > I also agree about it being a meatloaf. Nothing wrong with that but a
> > good burger is simply some freshly ground fatty beef (such as chuck)
> > with a grind of pepper.
>
> I agree with you, George. Give me some decent ground beef (and no, I don't
> have a grinder, Sheldon; I don't have room for the extra kitchen
> "appliances" I already have - some of which are stored in my 2nd bathroom -
> otherwise I might consider one) and keep it simple. I do add salt when they
> come off the grill (but only to my burger; others may salt as they wish).
>
> Jill


I was just trying to see if an amateur could contribute to a group
which has such wise and knowledgeable people.
I'm amazed that such a simple post produced such a large and, in some
cases, vitriolic, reaction.

I'm not going to bother answering these points. My burgers are enjoyed
by my friends when we get together for a barbecue. And that's what's
important.

I hope my next post generates as much interest.

John
www.morgans-net.com

John Morgan wrote:
> On 15 May, 16:13, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> George wrote:
>>> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:53:07 GMT, jay >
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
>>>>>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few
>>>>>> balls then flatten into a burger shape.
>>>>> You made meat loaf.
>>
>>>> No he didn't... he made burgers that taste a darn sight better
>>>> than a 'slab-o'-dead-cow'... besides, he didn't put breadcrumbs
>>>> in. (if you want REALLY good burgers, put two carrots, a tomato
>>>> and a celery
>>>> stick into the food processor and grind them up into a paste, and
>>>> mix THAT into the beef - but then you'll really need the egg as a
>>>> binder or they'll fall apart!)
>>
>>> I also agree about it being a meatloaf. Nothing wrong with that but
>>> a good burger is simply some freshly ground fatty beef (such as
>>> chuck)
>>> with a grind of pepper.
>>
>> I agree with you, George. Give me some decent ground beef (and no,
>> I don't have a grinder, Sheldon; I don't have room for the extra
>> kitchen "appliances" I already have - some of which are stored in my
>> 2nd bathroom - otherwise I might consider one) and keep it simple.
>> I do add salt when they come off the grill (but only to my burger;
>> others may salt as they wish).
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I was just trying to see if an amateur could contribute to a group
> which has such wise and knowledgeable people.
> I'm amazed that such a simple post produced such a large and, in some
> cases, vitriolic, reaction.
>
> I'm not going to bother answering these points. My burgers are enjoyed
> by my friends when we get together for a barbecue. And that's what's
> important.

They don't get together for a barbecue, they're getting together for a
cookout.

Sorry; I couldn't help it :-)

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Dave
www.davebbq.com

John Morgan wrote:
> On 15 May, 16:13, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> George wrote:
>>> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:53:07 GMT, jay >
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On 14 May 2007 03:06:22 -0700, John Morgan wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
>>>>>> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few
>>>>>> balls then flatten into a burger shape.
>>>>> You made meat loaf.
>>
>>>> No he didn't... he made burgers that taste a darn sight better
>>>> than a 'slab-o'-dead-cow'... besides, he didn't put breadcrumbs
>>>> in. (if you want REALLY good burgers, put two carrots, a tomato
>>>> and a celery stick into the food processor and grind them up into
>>>> a paste, and mix THAT into the beef - but then you'll really need
>>>> the egg as a binder or they'll fall apart!)
>>
>>> I also agree about it being a meatloaf. Nothing wrong with that but
>>> a good burger is simply some freshly ground fatty beef (such as
>>> chuck) with a grind of pepper.
>>
>> I agree with you, George. Give me some decent ground beef (and no,
>> I don't have a grinder, Sheldon; I don't have room for the extra
>> kitchen "appliances" I already have - some of which are stored in my
>> 2nd bathroom - otherwise I might consider one) and keep it simple.
>> I do add salt when they come off the grill (but only to my burger;
>> others may salt as they wish).
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I was just trying to see if an amateur could contribute to a group
> which has such wise and knowledgeable people.
> I'm amazed that such a simple post produced such a large and, in some
> cases, vitriolic, reaction.
>
Mine wasn't vitriolic, I was merely agreeing with George that simplicity
(and freshly ground meat) are best.

> I'm not going to bother answering these points. My burgers are enjoyed
> by my friends when we get together for a barbecue. And that's what's
> important.
>
You're so right. However, a good burger is a very simple endeavor. And I
noticed in your first post you mentioned yours are now better than "packet"
burgers, by which I assume you mean pre-frozen burgers purchased in a
supermarket. Naturally what you made beats those hands down.

> I hope my next post generates as much interest.
>
> John

Jump on in and put on your kevlar undies next time

Jill

"John Morgan" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Like many men, most of my cooking is done on a barbecue. This used to
> generate condescending looks and remarks about burning meat. So to
> give myself a bit more credibility I started making my own burgers.
>
> To any guys who would like to cook more but aren't sure how to start,
> I recommend giving this a try.
>
> They're dead easy. Just take some beef mine, onion, some mixed herbs,
> salt and pepper, and an egg. Mix it all up and form into a few balls
> then flatten into a burger shape.
>
> They cook in about 10 minutes (just turn them once) and taste better
> than anything you'll buy in a packet.
>
> Once you've made the basic recipe you can use the same method for
> cheeseburgers, lamb and mint or pork and apple. It also works for
> kebabs. These taste great with some Indian spices.
>
> This may be a bit simple for this group, but we've all got to start
> somewhere.
>
> John
> www.morgans-net.com
>

An egg? You made meatloaf burgers.