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It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I admit
I was a little surprised when my sister breast-fed my young
niece on a visit to my house. On the other hand, done without
fuss and excessive display, I can't see why people should object
and I've certainly seen it done just like that in the last 10
years or so by people like the wife of my daughter's wealthy
boss. I really can't understand the fuss some people make; have
they never been to a French (or other North European) beach?

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

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I don't know why breast feeding in public kind of bugs me because I'm a very
accepting person. I can completely understand why a woman would need to do
so. I can completely relate that the child is hungry and needs to eat. The
woman shouldn't feel ashamed to feed her child.........but.........I just
don't want to see it. If you can cover up with a blanket and not make it
darn obvious, have at it, but when a woman's breast is fully exposed on a
bus or in a restaurant, I have a different opinion.

Most men don't look at a breast as a method of feeding; a breast is a
sex-toy. Maybe I'm more turned off by that than breast feeding?!?!? It's
just a boob!

kili <------- down to one boob, unless you count her husband, then she still
has two

James Silverton wrote:
> Chatty wrote on Tue, 29 May 2007 16:03:29 +0200:
>
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>
> It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I admit I was a
> little surprised when my sister breast-fed my young niece on a visit to
> my house. On the other hand, done without fuss and excessive display, I
> can't see why people should object and I've certainly seen it done just
> like that in the last 10 years or so by people like the wife of my
> daughter's wealthy boss. I really can't understand the fuss some people
> make; have they never been to a French (or other North European) beach?

In South Africa breastfeeding has always been the "norm" - long before
the "experts" announced that it was the best thing for the baby. Mothers
breastfeed their babies wherever they are; some are more discrete than
others, but nobody bats an eyelid... It's good for baby, easier than
carting around bottles and formula - and the milk doesn't have to be
"warmed up"
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James Silverton wrote:

> It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I admit
> I was a little surprised when my sister breast-fed my young
> niece on a visit to my house. On the other hand, done without
> fuss and excessive display, I can't see why people should object
> and I've certainly seen it done just like that in the last 10
> years or so by people like the wife of my daughter's wealthy
> boss. I really can't understand the fuss some people make; have
> they never been to a French (or other North European) beach?


It is just part of our weird social hang-ups. We have been socialized to
thing of breasts as sexual things. They have to be covered up so people
don't see them, but at the same time women where undergarments to prop them
up and make them more noticeable, use support gimmicks to increase
cleavage. They want the right to be able to expose them and go topless in
public, but men can't look at them too long, and don't dare touch one that
is exposed because what would be a simple assault at most if it were an arm
that was touched because sexual assault when it is a breast that is
touched.


It is all a matter of social attitudes, and a lot of people hold the
prudish attitude that the natural act of a mother nursing a baby is
something dirty that should not be in the public eye.

AFAIAC, breast feeding in a family restaurant should be perfectly
acceptable, but when it comes to "fine dining", the big sin is taking a
baby into a place like that where they will be likely to disrupt other
diners.

Dave Smith wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>
>> It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I admit
>> I was a little surprised when my sister breast-fed my young
>> niece on a visit to my house. On the other hand, done without
>> fuss and excessive display, I can't see why people should object
>> and I've certainly seen it done just like that in the last 10
>> years or so by people like the wife of my daughter's wealthy
>> boss. I really can't understand the fuss some people make; have
>> they never been to a French (or other North European) beach?
>
>
> It is just part of our weird social hang-ups. We have been
> socialized to thing of breasts as sexual things. They have to be
> covered up so people don't see them, but at the same time women where
> undergarments to prop them up and make them more noticeable, use
> support gimmicks to increase cleavage. They want the right to be
> able to expose them and go topless in public, but men can't look at
> them too long, and don't dare touch one that is exposed because what
> would be a simple assault at most if it were an arm that was touched
> because sexual assault when it is a breast that is touched.
>
>
> It is all a matter of social attitudes, and a lot of people hold the
> prudish attitude that the natural act of a mother nursing a baby is
> something dirty that should not be in the public eye.
>
> AFAIAC, breast feeding in a family restaurant should be perfectly
> acceptable, but when it comes to "fine dining", the big sin is taking
> a baby into a place like that where they will be likely to disrupt
> other diners.

I 100% agree with you, Dave. I think that's my most...........what's the
word I'm looking for ......objectional (?) thing about openly
breastfeeding. Breasts *are* considered sexual items, which, of course,
they're not - they perform a valid function. And I also agree with you on
your second point. If you want to go to a *fine* dining establishment, I
don't think children should be allowed. Get a sitter and a breast pump for
gosh sakes! What patron wants to pay well over $100 for a meal to hear a
crying child? Don't most people go to a fabulous restaurant to get away
from it all? It's like a mini-vacation to go out and have an elaborate meal
with a special person.

I don't know, flame me if you wish, but that's just how I feel. If you have
your child with you in a Golden Corral, please, breast feed away, but not
demonstratively. Cover yourself with a blanket and get it done. In a fine
dining restaurant, please leave the baby at home.

Do I sound bitchy? (Ack!)

kili

Chatty Cathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> Vote now!

Woo hoo! Where's my hat?!

As for breastfeeding in restaurants: I don't care how "natural" or
"normal" it is to feed a baby. Keep your boobs inside your blouse at the
table, please. It's normal to change a baby's diapers, too, but one
hopes young Mother wouldn't do that in the dining room either.

Many establishments provide private quarters where breastfeeding can be
carried out. Take your baby there.

"kilikini" > wrote:
> I don't know why breast feeding in public kind of bugs me because I'm a very
> accepting person. I can completely understand why a woman would need to do
> so. I can completely relate that the child is hungry and needs to eat. The
> woman shouldn't feel ashamed to feed her child.........but.........I just
> don't want to see it. If you can cover up with a blanket and not make it
> darn obvious, have at it, but when a woman's breast is fully exposed on a
> bus or in a restaurant, I have a different opinion.

To me, it depends on the restaurant situation. At one end, in a McDonalds, I
have no problem with it at all. At the other extreme, at a swanky restaurant, it
would really bother me. In between is kind of a gray area. I guess the line for
me might be if the other patrons were expecting a quiet or romantic dinner. In
those cases, I'd say don't do it. But in those situations, do small kids even
belong there?

I suppose if we let this breast feeding in restaurants thing spread, the next
thing we will have is people changing diapers on the tables! ;-) Somehow I get
the feeling that already happens at McDonalds.

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"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> AFAIAC, breast feeding in a family restaurant should be perfectly
>> acceptable, but when it comes to "fine dining", the big sin is taking
>> a baby into a place like that where they will be likely to disrupt
>> other diners.
>
> I 100% agree with you, Dave. I think that's my most...........what's the
> word I'm looking for ......objectional (?) thing about openly
> breastfeeding. Breasts *are* considered sexual items, which, of course,
> they're not - they perform a valid function. And I also agree with you on
> your second point. If you want to go to a *fine* dining establishment, I
> don't think children should be allowed. Get a sitter and a breast pump
> for
> gosh sakes! What patron wants to pay well over $100 for a meal to hear a
> crying child? Don't most people go to a fabulous restaurant to get away
> from it all? It's like a mini-vacation to go out and have an elaborate
> meal
> with a special person.
>
> I don't know, flame me if you wish, but that's just how I feel. If you
> have
> your child with you in a Golden Corral, please, breast feed away, but not
> demonstratively. Cover yourself with a blanket and get it done. In a
> fine
> dining restaurant, please leave the baby at home.

ITA!

I've never taken a baby to a *fine* dining establishment, not only because I
wouldn't want to disrupt other diners (with fussing, etc.--babies can be
unpredictable, even when they're not hungry), but because *I* wouldn't enjoy
the experience. DH and I reserve that type of restaurant for our "date
nights", when it's just the two of us. Why anyone would want to take a baby
to such a tony place is beyond me.

But, yeah, at a more casual place, bring the baby and feed the baby if
he/she's hungry (discreetly, of course).


> Do I sound bitchy? (Ack!)

Nope. You sound perfectly reasonable to me.

Mary

kilikini wrote on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:58 -0400:

k> Dave Smith wrote:
??>> James Silverton wrote:
??>>
??>>> It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I
??>>> admit I was a little surprised when my sister breast-fed
??>>> my young niece on a visit to my house. On the other hand,
??>>> done without fuss and excessive display, I can't see why
??>>> people should object and I've certainly seen it done just
??>>> like that in the last 10 years or so by people like the
??>>> wife of my daughter's wealthy boss. I really can't
??>>> understand the fuss some people make; have they never
??>>> been to a French (or other North European) beach?
??>>
??>> It is just part of our weird social hang-ups. We have
??>> been socialized to thing of breasts as sexual things. They
??>> have to be covered up so people don't see them, but at the

What's all this "our" and "we"? Did you miss the second part of
my post concering European beaches? Not everyone lives in the
more backward parts of the world :-)

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>> It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I admit
>>> I was a little surprised when my sister breast-fed my young
>>> niece on a visit to my house. On the other hand, done without
>>> fuss and excessive display, I can't see why people should object
>>> and I've certainly seen it done just like that in the last 10
>>> years or so by people like the wife of my daughter's wealthy
>>> boss. I really can't understand the fuss some people make; have
>>> they never been to a French (or other North European) beach?
>>
>>
>> It is just part of our weird social hang-ups. We have been
>> socialized to thing of breasts as sexual things. They have to be
>> covered up so people don't see them, but at the same time women where
>> undergarments to prop them up and make them more noticeable, use
>> support gimmicks to increase cleavage. They want the right to be
>> able to expose them and go topless in public, but men can't look at
>> them too long, and don't dare touch one that is exposed because what
>> would be a simple assault at most if it were an arm that was touched
>> because sexual assault when it is a breast that is touched.
>>
>>
>> It is all a matter of social attitudes, and a lot of people hold the
>> prudish attitude that the natural act of a mother nursing a baby is
>> something dirty that should not be in the public eye.
>>
>> AFAIAC, breast feeding in a family restaurant should be perfectly
>> acceptable, but when it comes to "fine dining", the big sin is taking
>> a baby into a place like that where they will be likely to disrupt
>> other diners.
>
> I 100% agree with you, Dave. I think that's my most...........what's the
> word I'm looking for ......objectional (?) thing about openly
> breastfeeding. Breasts *are* considered sexual items, which, of course,
> they're not - they perform a valid function. And I also agree with you on
> your second point. If you want to go to a *fine* dining establishment, I
> don't think children should be allowed. Get a sitter and a breast pump
> for
> gosh sakes! What patron wants to pay well over $100 for a meal to hear a
> crying child? Don't most people go to a fabulous restaurant to get away
> from it all? It's like a mini-vacation to go out and have an elaborate
> meal
> with a special person.
>
> I don't know, flame me if you wish, but that's just how I feel. If you
> have
> your child with you in a Golden Corral, please, breast feed away, but not
> demonstratively. Cover yourself with a blanket and get it done. In a
> fine
> dining restaurant, please leave the baby at home.
>
> Do I sound bitchy? (Ack!)
>
> kili


My kid never cried in a restaurant, and we took him to all kinds. My best
theory is that it's sometimes obvious that a baby's got a regular mood &
sleep schedule, but some people are too dense to notice. So, they take their
kids to places where they're guaranteed to be overstimulated, and voila -
crying baby. We also talked to him constantly, as opposed to what some
people do - stick the kid in a high chair and ignore him/her. Babies may not
know what we're saying, but they know when they're being ignored.

"wff_ng_7" > wrote in message
news:eeX6i.65534$UD2.62983@trnddc05...
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>> I don't know why breast feeding in public kind of bugs me because I'm a
>> very
>> accepting person. I can completely understand why a woman would need to
>> do
>> so. I can completely relate that the child is hungry and needs to eat.
>> The
>> woman shouldn't feel ashamed to feed her child.........but.........I just
>> don't want to see it. If you can cover up with a blanket and not make it
>> darn obvious, have at it, but when a woman's breast is fully exposed on a
>> bus or in a restaurant, I have a different opinion.
>
> To me, it depends on the restaurant situation. At one end, in a McDonalds,
> I have no problem with it at all. At the other extreme, at a swanky
> restaurant, it would really bother me. In between is kind of a gray area.
> I guess the line for me might be if the other patrons were expecting a
> quiet or romantic dinner. In those cases, I'd say don't do it. But in
> those situations, do small kids even belong there?
>
> I suppose if we let this breast feeding in restaurants thing spread, the
> next thing we will have is people changing diapers on the tables! ;-)
> Somehow I get the feeling that already happens at McDonalds.
>
> --
> wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net


If you equate breast feeding with diaper changes.....what an opportunity for
commentary. I'll just stop.

"MareCat" > wrote in message
. ..
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> AFAIAC, breast feeding in a family restaurant should be perfectly
>>> acceptable, but when it comes to "fine dining", the big sin is taking
>>> a baby into a place like that where they will be likely to disrupt
>>> other diners.
>>
>> I 100% agree with you, Dave. I think that's my most...........what's the
>> word I'm looking for ......objectional (?) thing about openly
>> breastfeeding. Breasts *are* considered sexual items, which, of course,
>> they're not - they perform a valid function. And I also agree with you
>> on
>> your second point. If you want to go to a *fine* dining establishment, I
>> don't think children should be allowed. Get a sitter and a breast pump
>> for
>> gosh sakes! What patron wants to pay well over $100 for a meal to hear a
>> crying child? Don't most people go to a fabulous restaurant to get away
>> from it all? It's like a mini-vacation to go out and have an elaborate
>> meal
>> with a special person.
>>
>> I don't know, flame me if you wish, but that's just how I feel. If you
>> have
>> your child with you in a Golden Corral, please, breast feed away, but not
>> demonstratively. Cover yourself with a blanket and get it done. In a
>> fine
>> dining restaurant, please leave the baby at home.
>
> ITA!
>
> I've never taken a baby to a *fine* dining establishment, not only because
> I wouldn't want to disrupt other diners (with fussing, etc.--babies can be
> unpredictable, even when they're not hungry), but because *I* wouldn't
> enjoy the experience. DH and I reserve that type of restaurant for our
> "date nights", when it's just the two of us. Why anyone would want to take
> a baby to such a tony place is beyond me.

What the hell kinds of babies do some people have? Jeez! If the baby's got a
reason to cry in a nice restaurant, then it probably had that reason before
it got there. Figure out the reason.

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>> It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I admit
>>> I was a little surprised when my sister breast-fed my young
>>> niece on a visit to my house. On the other hand, done without
>>> fuss and excessive display, I can't see why people should object
>>> and I've certainly seen it done just like that in the last 10
>>> years or so by people like the wife of my daughter's wealthy
>>> boss. I really can't understand the fuss some people make; have
>>> they never been to a French (or other North European) beach?
>>
>>
>> It is just part of our weird social hang-ups. We have been
>> socialized to thing of breasts as sexual things.

Socialized? There's a direct phone line from the breasts to a woman's
downtown. You're built that way for a reason, and it obviously works, unless
you've been brutalized by religion or some other perversion.

"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
...
> Chatty Cathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>> Vote now!
>
> Woo hoo! Where's my hat?!
>
> As for breastfeeding in restaurants: I don't care how "natural" or
> "normal" it is to feed a baby. Keep your boobs inside your blouse at the
> table, please.

Born again Kristian, eh?

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "wff_ng_7" > wrote:
>> I suppose if we let this breast feeding in restaurants thing spread, the next
>> thing we will have is people changing diapers on the tables! ;-) Somehow I
>> get the feeling that already happens at McDonalds.
>
> If you equate breast feeding with diaper changes.....what an opportunity for
> commentary. I'll just stop.

They are related... "in one end and out the other"

By the way, I'm not the only one here to mention the diaper changing
possibility.

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"Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
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>
> Vote now!
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> Chatty Cathy

As of this writing:
55% said breastfeeding in restaurants is acceptable
55% had never done it


Does this translate to "I think its acceptable for others but I wouldn't do
it myself"?

Felice

"wff_ng_7" > wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> "wff_ng_7" > wrote:
>>> I suppose if we let this breast feeding in restaurants thing spread, the
>>> next thing we will have is people changing diapers on the tables! ;-)
>>> Somehow I get the feeling that already happens at McDonalds.
>>
>> If you equate breast feeding with diaper changes.....what an opportunity
>> for commentary. I'll just stop.
>
> They are related... "in one end and out the other"
>
> By the way, I'm not the only one here to mention the diaper changing
> possibility.


Yeah...I saw the others. The solution is to avoid eating in places that
attract people who think the Jerry Springer show is high culture. They're
the same slobs who have the cat's litter box next to the dining table, and
think nothing of it.

In article >,
"Felice Friese" > wrote:

> "Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
> > Vote now!
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Chatty Cathy
>
> As of this writing:
> 55% said breastfeeding in restaurants is acceptable
> 55% had never done it
>
>
> Does this translate to "I think its acceptable for others but I wouldn't do
> it myself"?

More likely it translates to men, who might accept it even though they
are pretty much incapable of doing it.

In article >,
Pennyaline > wrote:

> Chatty Cathy wrote:
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
> > Vote now!
>
> Woo hoo! Where's my hat?!
>
> As for breastfeeding in restaurants: I don't care how "natural" or
> "normal" it is to feed a baby. Keep your boobs inside your blouse at the
> table, please. It's normal to change a baby's diapers, too, but one
> hopes young Mother wouldn't do that in the dining room either.
>
> Many establishments provide private quarters where breastfeeding can be
> carried out. Take your baby there.

Probably the bathroom. Who wants to spend their meal in the bathroom?
Breastfeeding takes a long time, time that could be spent eating instead
of letting the food get cold. In the meantime, some of the women who
are eating are hanging out every square inch of their boobs that they
can, whereas the breastfeeding mom often has nothing showing for 99% of
the time.

On May 29, 11:42�am, Dan Abel > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Felice Friese" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> > > Vote now!
> > > --
> > > Cheers
> > > Chatty Cathy
>
> > As of this writing:
> > 55% said breastfeeding in restaurants is acceptable
> > 55% had never done it
>
> > Does this translate to "I think its acceptable for others but I wouldn't do
> > it myself"?
>
> More likely it translates to men, who might accept it even though they
> are pretty much incapable of doing it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have never breast fed, nor would I do it in public.

Once, while shopping in Egypt, I walked past a cubicle, there was a
woman sitting in a chair at the edge, near the foot traffic. She had
both enormous breasts open to the public while nursing. What made it
interesting was the fact that the rest of her body, including her face
was covered up tight as a drum.
Rosie

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:



> Socialized? There's a direct phone line from the breasts to a woman's
> downtown. You're built that way for a reason, and it obviously works, unless
> you've been brutalized by religion or some other perversion.

Lips are connected the same way. Should we ban the exposure of lips in
fine restaurants?

James Silverton wrote:
> kilikini wrote on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:58 -0400:
>
> k> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I
>>>> admit I was a little surprised when my sister breast-fed
>>>> my young niece on a visit to my house. On the other hand,
>>>> done without fuss and excessive display, I can't see why
>>>> people should object and I've certainly seen it done just
>>>> like that in the last 10 years or so by people like the
>>>> wife of my daughter's wealthy boss. I really can't
>>>> understand the fuss some people make; have they never
>>>> been to a French (or other North European) beach?
>>>
>>> It is just part of our weird social hang-ups. We have
>>> been socialized to thing of breasts as sexual things. They
>>> have to be covered up so people don't see them, but at the
>
> What's all this "our" and "we"? Did you miss the second part of
> my post concering European beaches? Not everyone lives in the
> more backward parts of the world :-)
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
I've never been to a European beach. Are there restaurants on the beach?

"Don Salad" > wrote:
> "wff_ng_7" > wrote:
>>
>> > If you equate breast feeding with diaper changes.....what an opportunity
>> > for
>> > commentary. I'll just stop.
>>
>> They are related... "in one end and out the other"
>
> And what happens to the food that "adults with class" eat?

They take it into another room and deposit it into an "attractive" white
porcelain container! ;-)

--
wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

Dan Abel wrote:
In the meantime, some of the women who
> are eating are hanging out every square inch of their boobs that they
> can, whereas the breastfeeding mom often has nothing showing for 99% of
> the time.

Hmmmm..interesting observation there, Dan. If a woman is dressed for a
festive or elegant restaurant, showing off her breasts is perfectly
acceptable. But to some of the folks here God forbid if a bit of breast
would be exposed doing something so appropriate as using said breasts
for their designed purpose! Twisted, huh?
Breasts are sexual AND functional. Why is one aspect okay yet the other
not?

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>
>
>> Socialized? There's a direct phone line from the breasts to a woman's
>> downtown. You're built that way for a reason, and it obviously works, unless
>> you've been brutalized by religion or some other perversion.
>
> Lips are connected the same way. Should we ban the exposure of lips in
> fine restaurants?

Oh I hope not! I can't stand it when people use their teeth alone closed
on their forks to remove the food. I wonder how they have teeth left!?

Felice Friese wrote:

>
> "Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
> > Vote now!
> > -- Cheers
> > Chatty Cathy
>
> As of this writing:
> 55% said breastfeeding in restaurants is acceptable
> 55% had never done it
>
>
> Does this translate to "I think its acceptable for others but I
> wouldn't do it myself"?

Did you happend to forget that some people don't have children?



Brian

--
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won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>
>
>> Socialized? There's a direct phone line from the breasts to a woman's
>> downtown. You're built that way for a reason, and it obviously works,
>> unless
>> you've been brutalized by religion or some other perversion.
>
> Lips are connected the same way. Should we ban the exposure of lips in
> fine restaurants?

I think so, and as soon as possible. I have a spot on my neck that a certain
lady knows about. Maybe I should keep it covered while in restaurants.

James Silverton wrote:

>
> ??>> It is just part of our weird social hang-ups. We have
> ??>> been socialized to thing of breasts as sexual things. They
> ??>> have to be covered up so people don't see them, but at the
>
> What's all this "our" and "we"? Did you miss the second part of
> my post concering European beaches? Not everyone lives in the
> more backward parts of the world :-)
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland

"We" and "our" as in the nearly half the respondents to the poll who
thought breast feeding in public is inappropriate. Most of the people here
are North American. Maryland is not near a European beach, and even
European beaches had prude views on toplessness a few decades ago, and bear
in mind that most of that toplessness is courteous of the young women with
nice young boobs. For some reason, the women will less perfect breasts tend
to prefer to be covered / supported.

"rosie" > wrote in message
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On May 29, 11:42?am, Dan Abel > wrote:
> In article >,
> "Felice Friese" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> > > Vote now!
> > > --
> > > Cheers
> > > Chatty Cathy
>
> > As of this writing:
> > 55% said breastfeeding in restaurants is acceptable
> > 55% had never done it
>
> > Does this translate to "I think its acceptable for others but I wouldn't
> > do
> > it myself"?
>
> More likely it translates to men, who might accept it even though they
> are pretty much incapable of doing it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have never breast fed, nor would I do it in public.

Once, while shopping in Egypt, I walked past a cubicle, there was a
woman sitting in a chair at the edge, near the foot traffic. She had
both enormous breasts open to the public while nursing. What made it
interesting was the fact that the rest of her body, including her face
was covered up tight as a drum.
Rosie
+++++++++++++++++++

Wow. Imagine that. People do things differently in other countries. Who
could've imagined such a thing?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

>
> Wow. Imagine that. People do things differently in other countries. Who
> could've imagined such a thing?
>
>

Of course they can't, dammit. Don't you know that the world is flat?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"Default User" > wrote

> Felice Friese wrote:

>> As of this writing:
>> 55% said breastfeeding in restaurants is acceptable
>> 55% had never done it

>> Does this translate to "I think its acceptable for others but I
>> wouldn't do it myself"?
>
> Did you happend to forget that some people don't have children?

Then they would have answered 'they don't have children'.

nancy

wff_ng_7 wrote:
>
>
> They are related... "in one end and out the other"
>
> By the way, I'm not the only one here to mention the diaper changing
> possibility.

FWIW... a few months ago that came up in an advice column in a local paper.
Not that there is necessarily a connection between the two, but someone was
upset that a woman had changed a baby's diaper on the table in the
restaurant. Nothing like the smell of baby urine wafting through the air
while you are trying to enjoy a meal.

Felice Friese wrote:
>
>
> As of this writing:
> 55% said breastfeeding in restaurants is acceptable
> 55% had never done it
>
> Does this translate to "I think its acceptable for others but I wouldn't do
> it myself"?


Perhaps I can speak for myself and some of the other males that don't have
a problem with it...... I find it acceptable, but, while I have nipples I
have no boobs and I don't lactate. Some women prefer not to breast feed,
opting instead for the bottle. So while we approve, we are not in a
position to do it.

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow. Imagine that. People do things differently in other countries. Who
>> could've imagined such a thing?
>
> Of course they can't, dammit. Don't you know that the world is flat?
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


The world is flat, in terms of our similarity to animals. But, slow thinkers
like to pretend we are not animals. They can't accept that we are wired to
want to look at other people. The trick is to learn to do it without making
others uncomfortable. Some also think we don't react to the scent of the
opposite sex. Nonsense.

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
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>
> Vote now!
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


It would be interesting if the survey could include other questions, such as
gender of respondents, religious background, age, etc.

Dave Smith wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:

>> What's all this "our" and "we"? Did you miss the second part of
>> my post concering European beaches? Not everyone lives in the
>> more backward parts of the world :-)
>>
>> James Silverton
>> Potomac, Maryland
>
> "We" and "our" as in the nearly half the respondents to the poll who
> thought breast feeding in public is inappropriate. Most of the people here
> are North American. Maryland is not near a European beach, and even
> European beaches had prude views on toplessness a few decades ago, and bear
> in mind that most of that toplessness is courteous of the young women with
> nice young boobs. For some reason, the women will less perfect breasts tend
> to prefer to be covered / supported.

LOL that's not true. I can't tell you how many 75 -80 year old breasts
I've seen around Europe. For decades by now. Also people way
overweight wear bikinis or Speedos. They do not think of the sea as a
place to preen so often, but more a relaxation and health thing. Many
still think the sun is good for you. Mind you, the cute and young are
enjoyed and do walk the walk, but they're a small fraction.

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Chatty Cathy wrote:
>
> James Silverton wrote:
> > Chatty wrote on Tue, 29 May 2007 16:03:29 +0200:
> >
> > CC> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
> > CC> Vote now!
> > CC> -- CC> Cheers
> > CC> Chatty Cathy
> >
> > It was not a common practice when we had small kids and I admit I was a
> > little surprised when my sister breast-fed my young niece on a visit to
> > my house. On the other hand, done without fuss and excessive display, I
> > can't see why people should object and I've certainly seen it done just
> > like that in the last 10 years or so by people like the wife of my
> > daughter's wealthy boss. I really can't understand the fuss some people
> > make; have they never been to a French (or other North European) beach?
>
> In South Africa breastfeeding has always been the "norm" - long before
> the "experts" announced that it was the best thing for the baby. Mothers
> breastfeed their babies wherever they are; some are more discrete than
> others, but nobody bats an eyelid... It's good for baby, easier than
> carting around bottles and formula - and the milk doesn't have to be
> "warmed up"

Would it actually need to be "warmed up" in South Africa? Isn't ambient
temp more than normal body temp much of the time?

Pete C.

Giusi wrote:
>
> D
> > "We" and "our" as in the nearly half the respondents to the poll who
> > thought breast feeding in public is inappropriate. Most of the people here
> > are North American. Maryland is not near a European beach, and even
> > European beaches had prude views on toplessness a few decades ago, and bear
> > in mind that most of that toplessness is courteous of the young women with
> > nice young boobs. For some reason, the women will less perfect breasts tend
> > to prefer to be covered / supported.
>
> LOL that's not true. I can't tell you how many 75 -80 year old breasts
> I've seen around Europe. For decades by now. Also people way
> overweight wear bikinis or Speedos. They do not think of the sea as a
> place to preen so often, but more a relaxation and health thing. Many
> still think the sun is good for you. Mind you, the cute and young are
> enjoyed and do walk the walk, but they're a small fraction.

I have been on those beaches. Please notice I suggested a tendency, not an
ironclad rule. Sure there are some older floppies on the beach. Since you
specify the beach I guess it is safe to assume that you recognize that the
more liberal attitudes profess on the beach are pretty well restricted to
the beach too.

I have heard all about the supposedly more liberated European attitude
towards nudity and the suggestion that when nudity is more common people do
not make a big deal of it. I noticed on my European trips that T&A is used
to market a lot of products, which contradicts that idea. Obviously it
still gets attention.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Pennyaline" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Chatty Cathy wrote:
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>>
>>> Vote now!
>> Woo hoo! Where's my hat?!
>>
>> As for breastfeeding in restaurants: I don't care how "natural" or
>> "normal" it is to feed a baby. Keep your boobs inside your blouse at the
>> table, please.
>
> Born again Kristian, eh?

Nothing of the kind, sir. I'm just one who has seen, at home and in the
workplace, engorged discolored breasts festooned with hard twisted veins
being hauled out in the name of "doing it naturally" and all else be
damned. Sometimes, it's just ignorance and arrogance that drives
behavior. Behold:

My sister in law once yanked one out at the dinner table during a family
get-together, not because it was mealtime for the infant but because he
was being fussy. The rest of us were there trying to eat too, including
her father and my father. The two men were mortified. My sister in law
was oblivious, and had to be clued in by her mother.

At work, a new mom coworker from another department sat down in a high
traffic nurses station and popped it out for the waiting birdie (she
wasn't there working, BTW, but had brought the new baby in to show it
off), smack in the middle of everything. It was active day shift, and
she just did it right there, where we were trying to work and visitors
were milling about. We offered her the use of the family room, a very
comfortable and quiet room where she could nurse in peace and where she
would be out of our way. She declined, stating that "it's all right" and
that she wasn't self conscious about it in any way. She would not/could
not understand that she was inappropriate to the situation. Finally,
after several complaints from staff and visitors, the administrator (a
woman and a mother) laid down the law and the breast went behind closed
doors.