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Goomba38 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> You don't have to tell me about transient existance, Dave. We moved
>> every year or at most every two years. Making lasting friendships
>> as the kid of a military man wasn't likely. It's one reason I've
>> not moved out of this area since 1973. I was so tired of moving
>> around, never getting to know anyone. I got some valuable life
>> experience, living in so many places. Exposure to good and
>> different foods, too. But it's a rough life for a kid.

>
> Other than your two years in Thailand, where else did you live? What
> other food cultures did you get introduced to compliments of the USMC?


Food culture doesn't necessarily require a foreign country. People eat
things in California that I never saw in South Carolina (for example). I
lived in California, Virginia, New Jersey, North Carolina, South Carolina,
Ohio, Pennsylvania. Vacationed in Malaysia and made a brief visit to Laos.
We were going to go to India for a couple of weeks but a war broke out.

When Dad retired he decided (for very strange reasons) to move us to west
Tennessee. (Once we were out of the house he and Mom high-tailed it back to
South Carolina!) Then there's the art shows I've been helping John with the
last few years. Mostly mid-west, to be sure, but I'd probably never have
understood what a "Maid-Rite" is were it not for shows in Iowa And I'd
never had BBQ'd beef ribs until we did a show in Houston, TX. They aren't
at all common here.

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Becca > wrote:
>
>> l, not -l wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't exactly say the government promoted smoking; but they
>>> made it available for those who did use it; at that time, it was
>>> just a very common thing to do, like drinking coffee (also in every
>>> MRE/C-rat) or drinking beer. They NEVER helped us get those
>>> "funny" cigarettes that were a favorite in RVN

>>
>> Maybe that is hurting enlistment.
>>
>> Becca

>
> A rather large number of 'nam vets came home addicted to Heroin...


Actually, you didn't have to be a vet to have that problem. My mom, my
middle brother and I all came back to the States from Thailand a few months
early because middle-bro got hooked on it (he was 14). Apparently a lot of
the "noodle cart" vendors parked outside of ISB (International School of
Bangkok) were selling more than noodles, soup and fried rice. Dad had to
remain in Bangkok to finish his tour of duty and my oldest brother stayed
with him because it was his senior year. (My parents didn't feel it would
be fair to yank him out only a few months before graduation and enroll him
in a school where he didn't know anyone.)


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jmcquown said...

> Food culture doesn't necessarily require a foreign country. People eat
> things in California that I never saw in South Carolina (for example). I
> lived in California, Virginia, New Jersey, North Carolina, South Carolina,
> Ohio, Pennsylvania.



Jill,

Yeah... about Pennsylvania... can ya coax cousin/uncle (??) Howard to cross
the border from Ohio into Pennsylvania, for selling the mint 1937 Hudson for
the price of dirt?? I'd like to whip his ***.

For FREE!

Andy
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Andy wrote:
> jmcquown said...
>
>> Food culture doesn't necessarily require a foreign country. People
>> eat things in California that I never saw in South Carolina (for
>> example). I lived in California, Virginia, New Jersey, North
>> Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania.

>
>
> Jill,
>
> Yeah... about Pennsylvania... can ya coax cousin/uncle (??) Howard to
> cross the border from Ohio into Pennsylvania, for selling the mint
> 1937 Hudson for the price of dirt?? I'd like to whip his ***.
>
> For FREE!
>
> Andy


LOL Cousin Herb. Yeah, $300... sheesh! I have no idea where he is. After
my Aunt Jean (Mom's sister, his adoptive mother) died he sold her house and
cut all ties with the family.

Jill


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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:07:10 -0700, b > wrote:

>On Jun 7, 12:47 am, Omelet > wrote:
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>> A rather large number of 'nam vets came home addicted to Heroin...

>
>tricky dick made that possible
>
>him and slick willy would make a nice pair of wool pullers
>watergate, whitewater, what's the difference


if you really believe there was no difference between watergate and
whitewater, you are either truly ignorant, an idiot, or a republican.

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jmcquown said...

> Andy wrote:
>> jmcquown said...
>>
>>> Food culture doesn't necessarily require a foreign country. People
>>> eat things in California that I never saw in South Carolina (for
>>> example). I lived in California, Virginia, New Jersey, North
>>> Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania.

>>
>>
>> Jill,
>>
>> Yeah... about Pennsylvania... can ya coax cousin/uncle (??) Howard to
>> cross the border from Ohio into Pennsylvania, for selling the mint
>> 1937 Hudson for the price of dirt?? I'd like to whip his ***.
>>
>> For FREE!
>>
>> Andy

>
> LOL Cousin Herb. Yeah, $300... sheesh! I have no idea where he is.
> After my Aunt Jean (Mom's sister, his adoptive mother) died he sold her
> house and cut all ties with the family.
>
> Jill



I'd cross the border into Ohio but that would be considered stalking,
right? Put so much as his toe in Pennsylvania and he's just about a goner,
in my book!

The BUM!!!

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>On Jun 6, 6:20 am, (J S) wrote:
>>nails on a few tv stars when
>> arranging presentations.
>> <<Smitty

>
>welcome to jewish media


make that truly ignorant, an idiot or a crank. i guess you could
still be a republican.

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On 2007-06-07, blake murphy > wrote:

> whitewater, you are either truly ignorant, an idiot, or a republican.


what's the difference?

hb
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On 2007-06-07, blake murphy > wrote:

> make that truly ignorant, an idiot or a crank. i guess you could
> still be a republican.


Why not? I am. You can do more damage in the enemy camp.

nb
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On Jun 7, 7:17 am, Omelet > wrote:

> This well researched tome evaporates a LOT of myths about the early and
> current Opium trade.


I've never had opium, I have eaten hot hot peppers and sauces,
allegedly my body releases a natural opium for the heat on my tongue

wanna hear something funny

Iiii think that cocaine comes from the opium plant
-
I think there are enough (or was enough) roots and herbs laying around
to cure anything.

Laughter is also medicine



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In article . com>,
b > wrote:

> On Jun 7, 7:17 am, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > This well researched tome evaporates a LOT of myths about the early and
> > current Opium trade.

>
> I've never had opium, I have eaten hot hot peppers and sauces,
> allegedly my body releases a natural opium for the heat on my tongue
>
> wanna hear something funny
>
> Iiii think that cocaine comes from the opium plant
> -
> I think there are enough (or was enough) roots and herbs laying around
> to cure anything.
>
> Laughter is also medicine


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> That's not an excuse. And I wish folks would stop calling them

Chefs,
> the majority are not... they're foodtv personalities... were they
> really chefs we wouldn't be having this discussion.
>
> Sheldon


I agree. The real chefs are in the kitchens of five star restaurants
not on TV telling us how to make a "gourmet" snack in 5
minutes.

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> J S wrote:
>
> Some cities have a place where you can check online about food
> violations.Its quite an eye-opener .The main culprits here are
> Taco-Bell.


While I don't eat at the fast food restraunts, I wouldn't want to know
about any violations in the restraunts around me. I feel like if I
knew the half of it I'd never eat out again.

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> > Some cities have a place where you can check online about food
> > violations.Its quite an eye-opener .The main culprits here are
> > Taco-Bell.

>
> While I don't eat at the fast food restraunts, I wouldn't want to know
> about any violations in the restraunts around me. I feel like if I
> knew the half of it I'd never eat out again.



FWIW.... there is a public health alert for people who have recently eaten
in a local restaurant. This week there were four people who came down with
an e-coli 0157 infection after eating there. The four victims range in age
from 4-16. Public health officials want to talk to anyone who has eaten
there recently in case they are showing any symptoms.
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Dave Smith said...

> LongJohns4 wrote:
>>
>> > Some cities have a place where you can check online about food
>> > violations.Its quite an eye-opener .The main culprits here are
>> > Taco-Bell.

>>
>> While I don't eat at the fast food restraunts, I wouldn't want to know
>> about any violations in the restraunts around me. I feel like if I
>> knew the half of it I'd never eat out again.

>
>
> FWIW.... there is a public health alert for people who have recently

eaten
> in a local restaurant. This week there were four people who came down

with
> an e-coli 0157 infection after eating there. The four victims range in

age
> from 4-16. Public health officials want to talk to anyone who has eaten
> there recently in case they are showing any symptoms.



From what I was told about Taco Bell is that just about everything on the
menu is just add water (rehydrated) crap.

Ate there a handful of times, ages ago.

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On Jun 6, 6:45 am, Jimmy > wrote:
> On Jun 6, 9:30 am, Sheldon > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Andy wrote:
> > > J S said...

>
> > > > May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
> > > > hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
> > > > this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
> > > > its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food with
> > > > 'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars when
> > > > arranging presentations.

>
> > > I imagine TV chefs are allowed those liberties since they aren't serving
> > > actual restaurant patrons.

>
> > That's not an excuse. And I wish folks would stop calling them Chefs,
> > the majority are not... they're foodtv personalities... were they
> > really chefs we wouldn't be having this discussion.

>
> > Sheldon

>
> The word 'Chef' has been perverted. It is a french(and other lingos)
> word meaning 'chief', 'boss' or some such truck. These bozos walking
> around calling themselves 'chefs' are out to lunch, or dinner or
> breaky...I don't know any french but like a chef saucier would be in
> charge of the sauce department; a chef is always in some kind of alpha/
> beta role. For example(please note that the word chef is not only
> used correctly in France)my uncle is a chemical engineer in Germany.
> When he refers to his boss he calls him 'chef' etc...Mike Smith is a
> cook unless he is in charge of something. Emeril is a chef I suppose
> since he runs restaurants; but a chef of what? That is the question.
> A chef of his restaurant/s. When he takes complete charge of one of
> his kitchens in one of his restaurants then he would be executive chef
> or head chef or just plain chef depending upon the organization of the
> kitchen.


Having been and executive chef for 40 years I rise to your opinion.
First as to cleanliness, when an apprentice chef I had to present
myself and hands to the sous chef each day before my shift started.
Woe be to the apprentice and or cook who turned up not properly
dressed and clean. In todays PC world this has diminished quite a lot.
To challenge a persons hygiene is problematic but should be done
regardless. Proper kitchen dress includes covering of all hair,
period. I have seen long uncontrolled hair in very upscale restaurants
such as Mesa Grill. It is not professional and the establishment
should be called on it. Cleanliness in the kitchen starts at the top.
If a executive or sous chef or kitchen manager does not set a good
example how can he/she enforce rules?

The titles of various chef positions has been watered and diluted
basically for financial reasons. Chain restaurants and food service
companies do not like standard culinary industry titles that have a
pay expectations attached to them. They have created the "kitchen
manager", "lead cook" or just chef among various titles to enable them
to create their own hour and pay structure.

In the industry the boutique chefs or TV chefs are usually a joke.
There are some that are truly stars but very few and getting fewer.
They are at best cooks. Cooks cook, chefs run kitchens.

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> In the industry the boutique chefs or TV chefs are usually a joke.
> There are some that are truly stars but very few and getting fewer.
> They are at best cooks. Cooks cook, chefs run kitchens.



OK, that explains my extra duties as a lowly dishwasher, when called upon by
the chefs to fetch them pitchers of beer from the walk in cooler's keg, as if
MY job didn't matter!

Still, I got used to underage drinking as a result.

Andy
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Andy wrote:
>


>
> From what I was told about Taco Bell is that just about everything on the
> menu is just add water (rehydrated) crap.
>
> Ate there a handful of times, ages ago.



I hate there twice... the first time and the last time. I had been too
busy to stop for dinner on an afternoon shift so I beef burrito at the new
taco Bell two doors down from our office and ate it on the way home. I woke
up in the middle of the night feeling like I was about to explode. Nasty
stuff.
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On Jun 7, 3:42 pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2007-06-07, blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > whitewater, you are either truly ignorant, an idiot, or a republican.

>
> what's the difference?
>
> hb


oh please

Everybody knows the republicans have more money than socialist.


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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:44:13 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2007-06-07, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> make that truly ignorant, an idiot or a crank. i guess you could
>> still be a republican.

>
>Why not? I am. You can do more damage in the enemy camp.
>
>nb


my mother, who last voted republican in 1960, still gets mail from the
party. she says, 'good, it costs them money.'

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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:42:29 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2007-06-07, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> whitewater, you are either truly ignorant, an idiot, or a republican.

>
>what's the difference?
>
>hb


the republicans don't pick up all the idiots. some of them are
attracted by the libertarians.

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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:00:44 -0700, b > wrote:

>On Jun 7, 3:42 pm, notbob > wrote:
>> On 2007-06-07, blake murphy > wrote:
>>
>> > whitewater, you are either truly ignorant, an idiot, or a republican.

>>
>> what's the difference?
>>
>> hb

>
>oh please
>
>Everybody knows the republicans have more money than socialist.
>


meaning what? i'll put that down as one mark for idiot, with half a
mark for ignorant.

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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:04:17 -0700, b > wrote:

>On Jun 7, 7:17 am, Omelet > wrote:
>
>> This well researched tome evaporates a LOT of myths about the early and
>> current Opium trade.

>
>I've never had opium, I have eaten hot hot peppers and sauces,
>allegedly my body releases a natural opium for the heat on my tongue
>
>wanna hear something funny
>
>Iiii think that cocaine comes from the opium plant
>-
>I think there are enough (or was enough) roots and herbs laying around
>to cure anything.
>
>Laughter is also medicine


jesus, b, you *are* an idiot. cocaine comes from the coca plant.
opium comes from a kind of poppy, not the 'opium plant.'

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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:55:31 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

> said...
>
>> In the industry the boutique chefs or TV chefs are usually a joke.
>> There are some that are truly stars but very few and getting fewer.
>> They are at best cooks. Cooks cook, chefs run kitchens.

>
>
>OK, that explains my extra duties as a lowly dishwasher, when called upon by
>the chefs to fetch them pitchers of beer from the walk in cooler's keg, as if
>MY job didn't matter!
>
>Still, I got used to underage drinking as a result.
>
>Andy


i love it when stories have a happy ending.

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blake murphy > wrote:

> On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:04:17 -0700, b > wrote:
>
> >On Jun 7, 7:17 am, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >> This well researched tome evaporates a LOT of myths about the early and
> >> current Opium trade.

> >
> >I've never had opium, I have eaten hot hot peppers and sauces,
> >allegedly my body releases a natural opium for the heat on my tongue
> >
> >wanna hear something funny
> >
> >Iiii think that cocaine comes from the opium plant
> >-
> >I think there are enough (or was enough) roots and herbs laying around
> >to cure anything.
> >
> >Laughter is also medicine

>
> jesus, b, you *are* an idiot. cocaine comes from the coca plant.
> opium comes from a kind of poppy, not the 'opium plant.'



You're lying to us, Blake. Next you'll try to tell us that milk doesn't
come from the milk plant, money doesn't grow on trees and the stork
doesn't bring babies. All lies. How can you live with yourself?


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On Jun 6, 10:42 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "J S" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
> > hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
> > this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
> > its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food with
> > 'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars when
> > arranging presentations.

>
> I hate it when they handle raw meat with their bare hands, then merely wipe
> their hands on a towel, or sometimes not even that, then use those unwashed
> hands to touch other food. Yuck!


I'm really persnickety about touching raw poultry. I set things up
with bleach water before I start preparing it. Beef, on the other
hand, I often snack on raw while preparing it. I haven't gotten sick
from it yet.

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BOBOBOnoBO(R) fka Food Snob > wrote:

> On Jun 6, 10:42 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > "J S" > wrote in message
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
> > > hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
> > > this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
> > > its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food with
> > > 'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars when
> > > arranging presentations.

> >
> > I hate it when they handle raw meat with their bare hands, then merely wipe
> > their hands on a towel, or sometimes not even that, then use those unwashed
> > hands to touch other food. Yuck!

>
> I'm really persnickety about touching raw poultry. I set things up
> with bleach water before I start preparing it. Beef, on the other
> hand, I often snack on raw while preparing it. I haven't gotten sick
> from it yet.
>
> --Bryan


I wear gloves any more to cut up poultry. Helps me get a better grip on
it anyway. ;-)

As for beef, I've been known to purchase lean top or bottom round and
use it to make steak tartar.

I like to dip it in a mix of shoyu and raw egg yolk.
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On Jun 7, 2:59 pm, blake murphy > wrote:

> make that truly ignorant, an idiot or a crank. i guess you could
> still be a republican.


Just lookup who owns this or that when it comes to your programs.
(captain kangaroo doesn't count)

You'd be hard pressed to find one that did not enrich a jewish man
directly.

This includes any large successful magazine like GQ, or Envouge, etc...

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b wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2:59 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> make that truly ignorant, an idiot or a crank. i guess you could
>> still be a republican.

>
> Just lookup who owns this or that when it comes to your programs.
> (captain kangaroo doesn't count)
>
> You'd be hard pressed to find one that did not enrich a jewish man
> directly.
>
> This includes any large successful magazine like GQ, or Envouge, etc...
>

Please go back into your cage.

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This includes any large successful magazine like GQ, or Envouge,
etc...
>
> Please go back into your cage.


you don't find these facts interesting and englightening?




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> On Jun 9, 3:18 am, Giusi > wrote:
> This includes any large successful magazine like GQ, or Envouge,
> etc...
>> Please go back into your cage.

>
> you don't find these facts interesting and englightening?
>
>

I find the inference bigoted.

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On Jun 9, 3:45 am, Giusi > wrote:

> I find the inference bigoted.


Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner

Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company

Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd

Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head
of Universal Studios

Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc

Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric

Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited

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> On Jun 9, 3:18 am, Giusi > wrote:
> This includes any large successful magazine like GQ, or Envouge,
> etc...
> >
> > Please go back into your cage.

>
> you don't find these facts interesting and englightening?


Yes, yes I did.

*plonk*




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On Jun 9, 4:39 am, "Default User" > wrote:

> Yes, yes I did.
>
> *plonk*


you couldn't find your ass with both hands

> Yes, yes I did.


you did?

> Yes, yes I did.


with both hands?

> Yes, yes I did.


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>> I find the inference bigoted.

>
> Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner
>
> Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company
>
> Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd
>
> Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head
> of Universal Studios
>
> Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc
>
> Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric
>
> Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited
>

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> Start now! You can rise and replace them, or at least one of them.


I wouldn't mind owning Disney for about an hour. Should be a good haul
of money.

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On Jun 7, 12:33 am, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:00:44 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"J S" > wrote

>
> >> for their restaurants.Maybe its just watching them 'play'with the food
> >> on the plate arranging a presentation ,wonder what they touched before
> >> its served to me.

>
> >I know, when I see that I think, would you quit rubbing your
> >hands all over my food?

>
> I don't see RR or any other TV chef "play" with their food. Some of
> them put their hands in it, but RR certainly doesn't do it. She uses
> her tongs so much I wonder if she's afraind of touching it.
>
> I admire TV chefs that can prepare dishes with their hair down and
> jewlery on, I certainly can't.
>


I'm often distracted when watching Giada (sp?) and how no show is
complete without her clevage being more prominant than the food. She
certainly is beautiful and well endowed, but geeze....!!!! I enjoy
her soft-spoken-ness and her recipes sure look good and easy. But
man, the clevage! :-)

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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:47:27 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:04:17 -0700, b > wrote:
>>
>> >On Jun 7, 7:17 am, Omelet > wrote:
>> >
>> >> This well researched tome evaporates a LOT of myths about the early and
>> >> current Opium trade.
>> >
>> >I've never had opium, I have eaten hot hot peppers and sauces,
>> >allegedly my body releases a natural opium for the heat on my tongue
>> >
>> >wanna hear something funny
>> >
>> >Iiii think that cocaine comes from the opium plant
>> >-
>> >I think there are enough (or was enough) roots and herbs laying around
>> >to cure anything.
>> >
>> >Laughter is also medicine

>>
>> jesus, b, you *are* an idiot. cocaine comes from the coca plant.
>> opium comes from a kind of poppy, not the 'opium plant.'

>
>
>You're lying to us, Blake. Next you'll try to tell us that milk doesn't
>come from the milk plant, money doesn't grow on trees and the stork
>doesn't bring babies. All lies. How can you live with yourself?


i delude myself as well as others.

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On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:10:50 -0700, b > wrote:

>On Jun 7, 2:59 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> make that truly ignorant, an idiot or a crank. i guess you could
>> still be a republican.

>
>Just lookup who owns this or that when it comes to your programs.
>(captain kangaroo doesn't count)
>
>You'd be hard pressed to find one that did not enrich a jewish man
>directly.
>
>This includes any large successful magazine like GQ, or Envouge, etc...


if the were all rich, then i would think they would meet your
approval. at least they're not filthy socialists.

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On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:27:42 -0700, b > wrote:

>On Jun 9, 3:18 am, Giusi > wrote:
>This includes any large successful magazine like GQ, or Envouge,
>etc...
>>
>> Please go back into your cage.

>
>you don't find these facts interesting and englightening?
>


as 'englightening' as joseph goebbels, another great man and teacher.

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