T wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>>On 10-Jun-2007, Christopher Helms > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>But where does one find a good doughnut 'these days'???
>>>>Dee Dee
>>>
>>>Right here. I know whereof I speak.
>>>
>>>http://www.insiderpages.com/b/3714740735
>>
>>And if you're ever in St. Louis and want an excellent donut, visit Donut
>>Drive-in or World's Fair Doughnuts
>>http://restaurants.riverfronttimes.c....php?oid=32618
>>http://www.insiderpages.com/b/15238778191
>>
>>
>
>
> I used to work in Bristol, RI back in the late 80's and early 90's. That
> said, there was a great place on Rt 136 called Jack's Donut Barn. Best
> damned donuts I'd ever had. Too bad it's gone.

To the best of my knowledge we don't have DD or Krispy Kreme hereabouts.
Did have a Krispy Kreme joint and it went out of business. There are
about a dozen Mom and Pop doughnut shops in the area and they only make
so many, when they're gone the "Closed" sign goes up. One about a block
away is usually out by 0900 weekdays and a wee bit longer on weekends.
I've seen people go through the drive-through and get 10 or 12 dozen
glazed doughnuts at a time. I certainly hope they're sharing with other
folks.

George

Stan Horwitz wrote:

> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> > I had Krispy Kreme's glazed donuts exactly once at my brothers
> > house. The best words that can describe them is "biting into air."

> That's the problem. They have to be eaten right out of the fryer;
> when they are warm.

I'm sure, but then any of them would taste good that way. When I were a
young sprout, my mother made doughnuts using those canned biscuits.
Those were pretty good right out of the grease too.




Brian

--
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won't shut up.
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Bluto wrote:
> Dave Bugg wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> rst wrote:
>>>> She's the official "chef" of the tasteless proletariat.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone ever in their life had a doughnut from that crap-factory
>>>> that wasn't stale?
>>>
>>> I've never had one. Not a big doughnut fan (note, the spelling
>>> isn't DONUTS but maybe should be DOH!-Nuts!). They reported their
>>> earnings from the last fiscal year are down about 10%. Jay Leno
>>> remarked maybe that's because 10% of their regular customers are
>>> now in diabetic comas
>>
>> I think most of the chain donut shops, including Krispy Kreme, have
>> had significant downturns. Attributed, I believe, to the no-carb fad.
>
> "Scuse me!? Fad? I lost 60 pounds with said "fad".

I know. Things that work and are popular can be a fad, like slinkies and
hula hoops. But fads reach a peak of popularity amongst the
population-at-large, and begin to recede. The low carb/no carb diet has been
finding itself in recession. That doesn't mean it will go away, it just
means that bread ad potatoes have been regaining their place at the dinner
table.
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

On Jun 10, 8:34 am, tert in seattle > wrote:

> these are better
>
> http://www.mightyo.com/

I second that. I also love Top Pot Doughnuts here in Seattle.

Derek Juhl

In article >,
Stan Horwitz > wrote:

> In article .com>,
> BOBOBOnoBO(R) fka Food Snob > wrote:

> > > I think most of the chain donut shops, including Krispy Kreme, have had
> > > significant downturns. Attributed, I believe, to the no-carb fad.
> >
> > "Fad" is a pretty strong word.
>
> Right. I think low carb eating is hear to stay unless human biology
> changes. The high carb content and fat content of a typical donut, is
> what's doing in those donut places. The fat content in a donut is very
> high, so between the fat and the carbs, its a double whammy.

I think it's a fad. Let's wait 20 years and see. What's not going to
change, though, is that donuts won't be a regular part of any reasonable
diet. Whether, you are watching calories, fat, sugar or carbs, donuts
have them all.

"T" > wrote in message
. ..

> I don't know which DD's your hitting but the ones within a five mile
> radiuse of me (And there are at least a dozen) all suck.

And I don't know which ones you're hitting. What part of RI are you in? I'm
down in South County.

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
>
> I think it's a fad. Let's wait 20 years and see. What's not going to
> change, though, is that donuts won't be a regular part of any reasonable
> diet. Whether, you are watching calories, fat, sugar or carbs, donuts
> have them all.

I bet you think that all this anti-smoking hooey is just a fad too. And the
same goes for sunscreen, right? I bet back in your day, you used to lay out
in the sun all day while spreading corn oil on your skin. These crazy,
unscientific, baseless fads...

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 17:58:03 -0700, "Dave Bugg" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >I think most of the chain donut shops, including Krispy Kreme, have had
> >significant downturns. Attributed, I believe, to the no-carb fad.
>
> Are you saying Krispy Kreme is the same as Dunkin' Donuts? I've eaten
> both and there is no way you can compare the two. Maybe times have
> changed, but back when I ate DD..... they were a thousand times better
> than Krispy Kreme.
>
>
> --
> See return address to reply by email
=================
Dunkin Donuts is king in MA. We have one on every corner and love the
donuts, coffee and drinks. I never liked the Krispy Kremes either; they
went out of business around here.

"Davlo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "rst" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > She's the official "chef" of the tasteless proletariat.
> >
> > Has anyone ever in their life had a doughnut from that crap-factory
> > that wasn't stale?
>
>
> My .02cents - I don't eat them often, sometimes if I am on the road and
> missed breakfast I'll get a plain donut with my coffee. Most of the time,
> they're pretty good. Soft and fresh with a real good flavor. I have tried
> other store's donuts in my area (Rhode Island) like Honey Dew and Tim
> Horton's, and I think their donuts are terrible.
============
Nothing comes close to DD coffee and doughnuts. They are best in the
morning.
Some of them might have been around awhile later on and not as fresh. We
never buy them at night.
>
>
>

Davlo wrote:
> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I think it's a fad. Let's wait 20 years and see. What's not going
>> to change, though, is that donuts won't be a regular part of any
>> reasonable diet. Whether, you are watching calories, fat, sugar or
>> carbs, donuts have them all.
>
> I bet you think that all this anti-smoking hooey is just a fad too.
> And the same goes for sunscreen, right? I bet back in your day, you
> used to lay out in the sun all day while spreading corn oil on your
> skin. These crazy, unscientific, baseless fads...

You must have a different understanding of what a fad is than the actual
definition. 'Fad' isn't a reference as to whether or not something works, or
has a scientific basis. It refers to something that is taken up with a
tremendous enthusiasm by the population for a period of time; it becomes
'all the rage'. Then it begins to subside.

Some fads disappear from radar altogether, like coonskin caps or the
Pritikin diet. Other fads remain part of the culture and have a following,
like slinkies.



--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

In article >, says...
>
> "T" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
> > I don't know which DD's your hitting but the ones within a five mile
> > radiuse of me (And there are at least a dozen) all suck.
>
> And I don't know which ones you're hitting. What part of RI are you in? I'm
> down in South County.
>
>
>

Providence. Land of the zillion DD stores.

rst wrote:
> She's the official "chef" of the tasteless proletariat.
>
> Has anyone ever in their life had a doughnut from that crap-factory
> that wasn't stale?

Yes. You have to get them early in the morning, as early as possible.

I know. It means getting up. You'll get used to it. Or you can just go
somewhere else for doughnuts. Or make them yourself. Or whatever.

<and I would say rather that she's the official "chef" of the
*bourgeoisie*, since that's the target demo.>

On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:51:54 -0700, Dee Dee >
wrote:

>But where does one find a good doughnut 'these days'???

Shipley doughnuts

Tara

Dee Dee wrote Entemanns:
> I've tried a couple of their products with the "Zone" was a popular
> book against fat. They tasted like cardboard.
> Dee Dee

Huh?

How I miss Entenmanns! My fix was available at every corner store in Queens.

"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
...
>
> You must have a different understanding of what a fad is than the actual
> definition. 'Fad' isn't a reference as to whether or not something works,
> or has a scientific basis. It refers to something that is taken up with a
> tremendous enthusiasm by the population for a period of time; it becomes
> 'all the rage'. Then it begins to subside.
>
> Some fads disappear from radar altogether, like coonskin caps or the
> Pritikin diet. Other fads remain part of the culture and have a
> following, like slinkies.

I think I'm pretty aware of what a fad is. The point I'm making is that a
low-carb diet is not a fad; it's a foundation of a healthy diet. When the
food pyramid got updated to reflect the importance of a low-carb diet, it
wasn't in response to a fad. People are more aware of what they eat now and
it's a high profile issue that has now been around for a long time

What was a fad was the Atkins Diet. That has been shown to be an unhealthy
and damaging diet to follow for any extended time. So if you mean the Atkins
Diet, then yes, you have a fad. But we're not talking about that, we're
talking about low-carb.

Davlo wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> You must have a different understanding of what a fad is than the
>> actual definition. 'Fad' isn't a reference as to whether or not
>> something works, or has a scientific basis. It refers to something
>> that is taken up with a tremendous enthusiasm by the population for
>> a period of time; it becomes 'all the rage'. Then it begins to
>> subside. Some fads disappear from radar altogether, like coonskin caps or
>> the
>> Pritikin diet. Other fads remain part of the culture and have a
>> following, like slinkies.
>
> I think I'm pretty aware of what a fad is. The point I'm making is
> that a low-carb diet is not a fad; it's a foundation of a healthy
> diet.

That's not the issue; the issue is whether or not huge numbers of people
started on it, and whether it's popularity has dropped. Any measure you want
to use demonstrates that the low/no carb diets have decreased in use among
the population.

> When the food pyramid got updated to reflect the importance of
> a low-carb diet, it wasn't in response to a fad. People are more
> aware of what they eat now and it's a high profile issue that has now
> been around for a long time

And yet, pastries, bread, potatoes, candy, sugar and other goods have seen a
rebound in sales. Pancake feeds had almost disappeared as a fundraiser a few
years ago, and yet are now as popular as ever. As to the food pyramid,
awareness, and high profiles, that has little to do with whether or not the
population at large has grown less concerned about low carbs and are
reverting back to pre-carb awarness norms in eating.

> What was a fad was the Atkins Diet. That has been shown to be an
> unhealthy and damaging diet to follow for any extended time. So if
> you mean the Atkins Diet, then yes, you have a fad. But we're not
> talking about that, we're talking about low-carb.

And yet Atkins was the basis for the sudden surge of interest in low/no carb
diets.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

In article >,
"Davlo" > wrote:

> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > I think it's a fad. Let's wait 20 years and see. What's not going to
> > change, though, is that donuts won't be a regular part of any reasonable
> > diet. Whether, you are watching calories, fat, sugar or carbs, donuts
> > have them all.
>
> I bet you think that all this anti-smoking hooey is just a fad too.

The surgeon general of the Unites States came out and said in public
that smoking was bad for the health. This was in 1964, over forty years
ago. And it comes out every year. And it's not just maybe, despite the
denials of the tobacco industry.


> And the
> same goes for sunscreen, right?

My doctor tells me to wear sunscreen. My father had skin cancer removed
recently. The doctor said that if it hadn't been caught soon, she
wouldn't have removed it, it would have been too late for that.


> I bet back in your day, you used to lay out
> in the sun all day while spreading corn oil on your skin. These crazy,
> unscientific, baseless fads...

I've always been sensitive to the sun. I wear a hat when I go outside,
even for a minute. I don't generally wear sunscreen. I just stay in
the shade.

In article >,
"Dave Bugg" > wrote:

> Davlo wrote:
> > "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> I think it's a fad. Let's wait 20 years and see. What's not going
> >> to change, though, is that donuts won't be a regular part of any
> >> reasonable diet. Whether, you are watching calories, fat, sugar or
> >> carbs, donuts have them all.
> >
> > I bet you think that all this anti-smoking hooey is just a fad too.
> > And the same goes for sunscreen, right? I bet back in your day, you
> > used to lay out in the sun all day while spreading corn oil on your
> > skin. These crazy, unscientific, baseless fads...
>
> You must have a different understanding of what a fad is than the actual
> definition. 'Fad' isn't a reference as to whether or not something works, or
> has a scientific basis. It refers to something that is taken up with a
> tremendous enthusiasm by the population for a period of time; it becomes
> 'all the rage'. Then it begins to subside.


When I was a kid, the latest diet fad was eliminating sugar. People
would boast about their healthy breakfast. They used a sugar substitute
in their coffee instead of the one teaspoon of sugar they used before.
They put generous amounts of heavy cream in the coffee. Three eggs
fried in butter, three strips of bacon and three pieces of toast
slathered with butter. They used to have two slices of toast, but upped
it to three and cut out the two teaspoons of jelly they used to put on
it. Yessiree Bob, they were going to lose major weight on their diet.

On Jun 10, 7:09 pm, Pennyaline > wrote:
> Dee Dee wrote Entemanns:
>
> > I've tried a couple of their products with the "Zone" was a popular
> > book against fat. They tasted like cardboard.
> > Dee Dee
>
> Huh?
>
> How I miss Entenmanns! My fix was available at every corner store in Queens.

I see Entenmanns in most if not all supermarkets, at least here on the
east coast. At Amazon.com there are 2-3 pages of entenmann's
products. I don't know about price comparisons though. I do buy
some things that Vitamin Shope sells that are 1/3 of the price that
the retail stores do.

Dee Dee

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> writes:
>>Dee Dee wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>> > rst wrote:
>>> > > She's the official "chef" of the tasteless proletariat.
>>>
>>> > > Has anyone ever in their life had a doughnut from that crap-factory
>>> > > that wasn't stale?
>>>
>>> > I've never had one. Not a big doughnut fan (note, the spelling isn't
>>> > DONUTS
>>> > but maybe should be DOH!-Nuts!). They reported their earnings from
>>> > the last
>>> > fiscal year are down about 10%.
>>>
>>> It's surprising that they aren't down more than 10%. I've gone to DD
>>> a few times getting their coffee until in the last year, it has
>>> changed - won't drink it. A couple of times when traveling, I had
>>> their doughnuts -- filled with air and not very tasty.
>>>
>>> But where does one find a good doughnut 'these days'???
>>
>>No one does better donuts: http://entenmanns.gwbakeries.com
>>
>>They're all good but their chocolate covered devils food is to die
>>for.
>>
>>And all their donuts are baked, no grease... so you can fress an
>>entire boxful without guilt. <g>
>
> these are better
>
> http://www.mightyo.com/
> ================

I dunno... 'healthy' donuts? That's just *wrong*! LOL

Cyndi

Davlo wrote:


> I think I'm pretty aware of what a fad is. The point I'm making is
> that a low-carb diet is not a fad; it's a foundation of a healthy
> diet.


You can believe that if you want.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Jun 10, 7:04 pm, Tara > wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:51:54 -0700, Dee Dee >
> wrote:
>
> >But where does one find a good doughnut 'these days'???
>
> Shipley doughnuts

SPUDNUTS. But I haven't had one since 1958... they were great. Are
they still around?

Has anyone else become nauseated when one goes into a Cold Stone
Creamery? The sugar in the air is like being in the exhaust of a
cotton candy machine.

T.

On Jun 11, 6:23 am, wrote:

>
> Has anyone else become nauseated when one goes into a Cold Stone
> Creamery? The sugar in the air is like being in the exhaust of a
> cotton candy machine.
>
> T.

I get nauseated going in there. I went several times, but the last
time, after starting to make my own home-made ice-cream, I realized
just how bad it was.

Dee Dee

On Jun 9, 5:51 pm, Dee Dee > wrote:
> On Jun 9, 8:17 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
> > rst wrote:
> > > She's the official "chef" of the tasteless proletariat.
>
> > > Has anyone ever in their life had a doughnut from that crap-factory
> > > that wasn't stale?
>
> > I've never had one. Not a big doughnut fan (note, the spelling isn't DONUTS
> > but maybe should be DOH!-Nuts!). They reported their earnings from the last
> > fiscal year are down about 10%.
>
> > Jill
>
> It's surprising that they aren't down more than 10%. I've gone to DD
> a few times getting their coffee until in the last year, it has
> changed - won't drink it. A couple of times when traveling, I had
> their doughnuts -- filled with air and not very tasty.
>
> But where does one find a good doughnut 'these days'???
> Dee Dee

Connie's Donuts on Pacific Ave in Tacoma WA!

Dee Dee wrote:
> On Jun 10, 7:09 pm, Pennyaline > wrote:
>> Dee Dee wrote Entemanns:
>>
>>> I've tried a couple of their products with the "Zone" was a popular
>>> book against fat. They tasted like cardboard.
>>> Dee Dee
>> Huh?
>>
>> How I miss Entenmanns! My fix was available at every corner store in Queens.
>
> I see Entenmanns in most if not all supermarkets, at least here on the
> east coast.

Ain't much of it here in Utah, only a couple of items available at one
local supermarket (chocolate-covered chocolate doughnuts -- blehhh --
and either cheese or raspberry danish), and that's it, that's all!



> At Amazon.com there are 2-3 pages of entenmann's
> products. I don't know about price comparisons though. I do buy
> some things that Vitamin Shope sells that are 1/3 of the price that
> the retail stores do.

Eh, I like Amazon well enough but I don't know about food shopping
through them.

"rst" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> She's the official "chef" of the tasteless proletariat.
>
> Has anyone ever in their life had a doughnut from that crap-factory
> that wasn't stale?
>

Their donuts sit like a lead balloon. Their stores create havoc on traffic
if they have a drive-in.
BUT they sell more coffee (cup every 35 seconds) than anyone else.

It Figures Rachel Ray Would Be a Shill For Dunkin Donuts

Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Sun, Jun 10, 2007, 5:09pm (EDT-2) From:
(Pennyaline)
Dee Dee wrote Entemanns:
I've tried a couple of their products with the "Zone" was a popular book
against fat. They tasted like cardboard. Dee Dee
Huh?
How I miss Entenmanns! My fix was available at every corner store in
Queens.

<I am an Entenmans-a-holic also.Here(Fl) we have the outlet store where
they,re marked down..also Big lots,Publix,Winn-Dixie,and Albertsons
carry them.
I love the chocolate topped devils food cake,where the frosting would
stick to the top of the box if they were,nt kept cool.Loaded up on their
coffee cakes at Big Lots a month ago which were selling them for $1.75 a
piece...Yum
Cheers Smitty

It Figures Rachel Ray Would Be a Shill For Dunkin Donuts

Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Sun, Jun 10, 2007, 9:09pm (EDT+4) From:
(pfoley)
<sf> wrote in message ...
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 17:58:03 -0700, "Dave Bugg" >
wrote:
I think most of the chain donut shops, including Krispy Kreme, have had
significant downturns. Attributed, I believe, to the no-carb fad.
Are you saying Krispy Kreme is the same as Dunkin' Donuts? I've eaten
both and there is no way you can compare the two. Maybe times have
changed, but back when I ate DD..... they were a thousand times better
than Krispy Kreme.
--
See return address to reply by email
=================
Dunkin Donuts is king in MA. We have one on every corner and love the
donuts, coffee and drinks. I never liked the Krispy Kremes either; they
went out of business around here.

<I ate only Dunkin Donus when I lived in New Jersey,they were the
best.They were (are) also known for thier coffee,which they now sell
online.Panic set in when I moved south,but was lucky to find 2 within 5
miles of me,.There was a lot of hoople about Krispy Kreme this and
Krispy Kreme that so I hunted one down off my neighbor.it was nothing
special,too cakey and dense.They are hurting for business here now.The 2
Dunkins here are always fresh and calm my cravings...their bavarian
cremme filled are to die for.
Smitty

"J S" > wrote in message
...
>
> It Figures Rachel Ray Would Be a Shill For Dunkin Donuts
>
> Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Sun, Jun 10, 2007, 5:09pm (EDT-2) From:
> (Pennyaline)
> Dee Dee wrote Entemanns:
> I've tried a couple of their products with the "Zone" was a popular book
> against fat. They tasted like cardboard. Dee Dee
> Huh?
> How I miss Entenmanns! My fix was available at every corner store in
> Queens.
>
> <I am an Entenmans-a-holic also.Here(Fl) we have the outlet store where
> they,re marked down..also Big lots,Publix,Winn-Dixie,and Albertsons
> carry them.
> I love the chocolate topped devils food cake,where the frosting would
> stick to the top of the box if they were,nt kept cool.Loaded up on their
> coffee cakes at Big Lots a month ago which were selling them for $1.75 a
> piece...Yum
> Cheers Smitty

Entenman's just moved 90% of its business from BayShore, NY to PA hey still
make a couple of things in NY, but it's too costly to do business in NY and
the plant needs a major overhaul. It will be closed eventually.

Kswck wrote:

> Entenman's just moved 90% of its business from BayShore, NY to PA hey still
> make a couple of things in NY, but it's too costly to do business in NY and
> the plant needs a major overhaul. It will be closed eventually.

That's kinda sad.
I love their simple crumb cake with a hot cup of tea.