I saw the most ridiculous WalMart commercial last night. Maybe you've seen
it. It opens with two Chinese guys standing in front of an assembly line
producing some sort of small electronic gadget, talking away (in Chinese).
The gadgets go along the conveyor belt and eventually wind up in individual
boxes. Pan camera to the right to show a couple with a young boy and a
*WalMart* shopping cart standing next to the conveyor belt as the boy plucks
one of the boxes off the belt and puts it in their cart. One big happy
family!

With all the recent flack about Chinese ingredients poisoning people and
about WalMart selling so much stuff made in China I was utterly amazed they
would pick *now* to air a commercial like this!

Jill

On 2007-06-13, jmcquown > wrote:

> With all the recent flack about Chinese ingredients poisoning people and
> about WalMart selling so much stuff made in China I was utterly amazed they
> would pick *now* to air a commercial like this!

I don't know why. We gotta keep all those prices at rock bottom so
all the illegal aliens can afford to buy stuff and pay sales taxes.
Don't worry about them getting a good education and learning English.
Sears just labeled everything they sell in Spanish so the illegals
won't have to bother assimulating into our culture. The power elite
has already sold off this country to the hightest bidder. What little
is left of the once great middle class in the USA can pretty much bend
over and kiss its dwindling collective ass goodbye.

nb

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:00:17 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>I saw the most ridiculous WalMart commercial last night. Maybe you've seen
>it. It opens with two Chinese guys standing in front of an assembly line
>producing some sort of small electronic gadget, talking away (in Chinese).
>The gadgets go along the conveyor belt and eventually wind up in individual
>boxes. Pan camera to the right to show a couple with a young boy and a
>*WalMart* shopping cart standing next to the conveyor belt as the boy plucks
>one of the boxes off the belt and puts it in their cart. One big happy
>family!
>
I haven't noticed that one, but I guess they were trying to parody the
Florida orange juice commercials.
>
>With all the recent flack about Chinese ingredients poisoning people and
>about WalMart selling so much stuff made in China I was utterly amazed they
>would pick *now* to air a commercial like this!

Clueless advertising department?

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said...

> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:00:17 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>>I saw the most ridiculous WalMart commercial last night. Maybe you've
>>seen it. It opens with two Chinese guys standing in front of an
>>assembly line producing some sort of small electronic gadget, talking
>>away (in Chinese). The gadgets go along the conveyor belt and eventually
>>wind up in individual boxes. Pan camera to the right to show a couple
>>with a young boy and a *WalMart* shopping cart standing next to the
>>conveyor belt as the boy plucks one of the boxes off the belt and puts
>>it in their cart. One big happy family!
>>
> I haven't noticed that one, but I guess they were trying to parody the
> Florida orange juice commercials.
>>
>>With all the recent flack about Chinese ingredients poisoning people and
>>about WalMart selling so much stuff made in China I was utterly amazed
>>they would pick *now* to air a commercial like this!
>
> Clueless advertising department?


Ahh... you mean the Kreatives!??

Haven't seen the commercial yet.

Andy

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I saw the most ridiculous WalMart commercial last night. Maybe you've seen
> it. It opens with two Chinese guys standing in front of an assembly line
> producing some sort of small electronic gadget, talking away (in Chinese).
> The gadgets go along the conveyor belt and eventually wind up in individual
> boxes. Pan camera to the right to show a couple with a young boy and a
> *WalMart* shopping cart standing next to the conveyor belt as the boy plucks
> one of the boxes off the belt and puts it in their cart. One big happy
> family!
>
> With all the recent flack about Chinese ingredients poisoning people and
> about WalMart selling so much stuff made in China I was utterly amazed they
> would pick *now* to air a commercial like this!

But Jill..... it is entirely appropriate that WalMart show a Chinese
assembly lane, since that is where most of their products come from. It is
rare to find domestic products in that store, and that is the reason why I
refuse to shop there.
Thanks to them lowballing everything, it is forcing their competitors to do
the same. Last year I went out shopping for a white dress shirt. I checked
them all to see where they were manufactured, and made a point of telling
the sales staff I would not by shirts from China. I went to at least a
half dozen stores before I found a Canadian made shirt, and it wasn't that
much more expensive. I confess to having bout several pairs of happening
pants at a local discount store. At $4.95 a pair it seemed like a good idea
to buy several. One pair ripped the first time I wore them. The second
pair lasted a week, and the third pair lasted about two days. $15 for three
pairs of pants. I ended up getting an American made pair for $30 and they
are still in good shape after much wearing over the last year.

jmcquown wrote:

> I saw the most ridiculous WalMart commercial last night. Maybe
> you've seen it. It opens with two Chinese guys standing in front of
> an assembly line producing some sort of small electronic gadget,
> talking away (in Chinese). The gadgets go along the conveyor belt
> and eventually wind up in individual boxes. Pan camera to the right
> to show a couple with a young boy and a *WalMart* shopping cart
> standing next to the conveyor belt as the boy plucks one of the boxes
> off the belt and puts it in their cart. One big happy family!
>
> With all the recent flack about Chinese ingredients poisoning people
> and about WalMart selling so much stuff made in China I was utterly
> amazed they would pick now to air a commercial like this!

My guess: This was all scheduled before the poisoning scandal broke.

After the Soviet Union collapsed, there were still "USSR invades US!"
novels being published.

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In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:


> the same. Last year I went out shopping for a white dress shirt. I checked
> them all to see where they were manufactured, and made a point of telling
> the sales staff I would not by shirts from China. I went to at least a
> half dozen stores before I found a Canadian made shirt, and it wasn't that
> much more expensive.

Canadians are weird that way. I haven't spent much time in Canada, but
my wife and I had a short visit there a few years ago. We went to the
liquor store and I bought some Budweiser beer. It had the familiar red
and white can. When I looked at the fine print, though, it said "made
in Canada under license". It didn't taste quite the same, although that
was fine, since, of course, it tasted *better*. We went to Safeway.
Half of the produce had little signs that said "grown in Canada". The
other half had no signs.

In article >,
notbob > wrote:


> Sears just labeled everything they sell in Spanish so the illegals

Not everybody who reads Spanish is an illegal. Not all illegals speak
Spanish.

On Jun 13, 12:29 pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2007-06-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > With all the recent flack about Chinese ingredients poisoning people and
> > about WalMart selling so much stuff made in China I was utterly amazed they
> > would pick *now* to air a commercial like this!
>
> I don't know why. We gotta keep all those prices at rock bottom so
> all the illegal aliens can afford to buy stuff and pay sales taxes.
> Don't worry about them getting a good education and learning English.
> Sears just labeled everything they sell in Spanish so the illegals
> won't have to bother assimulating into our culture. The power elite
> has already sold off this country to the hightest bidder. What little
> is left of the once great middle class in the USA can pretty much bend
> over and kiss its dwindling collective ass goodbye.

Do you have any suggestions as to what we should DO about the above?
That was not a rhetorical question.
I have mixed feelings about the Mexican invasion because I adore
Mexican food, and not gringo Mexican, but the stuff sold at taquerias,
intended mostly for Mexicans.
>
> nb

--Bryan

On 2007-06-13, BOBOBOnoBO® > wrote:

> Do you have any suggestions as to what we should DO about the above?
> That was not a rhetorical question.

Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.

nb

And....How does that make Canadians weird?


"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>
>> the same. Last year I went out shopping for a white dress shirt. I
>> checked
>> them all to see where they were manufactured, and made a point of telling
>> the sales staff I would not by shirts from China. I went to at least a
>> half dozen stores before I found a Canadian made shirt, and it wasn't
>> that
>> much more expensive.
>
> Canadians are weird that way. I haven't spent much time in Canada, but
> my wife and I had a short visit there a few years ago. We went to the
> liquor store and I bought some Budweiser beer. It had the familiar red
> and white can. When I looked at the fine print, though, it said "made
> in Canada under license". It didn't taste quite the same, although that
> was fine, since, of course, it tasted *better*. We went to Safeway.
> Half of the produce had little signs that said "grown in Canada". The
> other half had no signs.

In article >,
says...
> Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
> speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
>
So if the Mexicans speak Mexican, and Americans speak American, and all
the labels are in english and spanish, who can read them?
--
Carl Robson
Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

> In article >,
> says...
> > Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
> > speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
> >
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp

jmcquown wrote:
> I saw the most ridiculous WalMart commercial last night. Maybe you've seen
> it. It opens with two Chinese guys standing in front of an assembly line
> producing some sort of small electronic gadget, talking away (in Chinese).
> The gadgets go along the conveyor belt and eventually wind up in individual
> boxes. Pan camera to the right to show a couple with a young boy and a
> *WalMart* shopping cart standing next to the conveyor belt as the boy plucks
> one of the boxes off the belt and puts it in their cart. One big happy
> family!
>
> With all the recent flack about Chinese ingredients poisoning people and
> about WalMart selling so much stuff made in China I was utterly amazed they
> would pick *now* to air a commercial like this!
>
> Jill
>
>
Chances are WalMart is counting on the majority of consumers being
blissfully ignorant of reality. The latest scandal is about child
labour and the promise of a clean-up of that particular mess because of
the forthcoming Beijing Olympics:

excerpt:

"China vows child labour crackdown

Government-controlled newspapers report shocking stories of abuse,
enslavement
Jun 14, 2007 04:30 AM
Bill Schiller
ASIA BUREAU

BEIJING–As Beijing Olympic officials met yesterday with Olympic-licensed
firms accused of violating Chinese labour laws – including the
employment of 12-year-olds – more horror stories of child labour,
unrelated to the Games, began to emerge.

Despite strong legislation prohibiting kids from working until the age
of 16, the allegations have cast a harsh spotlight on a serious problem
China has yet to wrestle to the ground.

Yesterday, however, Chen Feng, deputy director of marketing for
Beijing's organizing committee, vowed China would move swiftly against
violators if the allegations turned out to be true.

"If we find any problems, we will severely punish those violators," Chen
told reporters.

This week the U.K.-based workers group Playfair, in a 30-page report
with photos, said it had found four factories in southeast China where
labour violations were rife, including child labour, low wages, poor
safety and forced overtime."

Rest of the article he

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/225236

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...

> Canadians are weird that way. I haven't spent much time in Canada, but
> my wife and I had a short visit there a few years ago. We went to the
> liquor store and I bought some Budweiser beer. It had the familiar red
> and white can. When I looked at the fine print, though, it said "made
> in Canada under license". It didn't taste quite the same, although that
> was fine, since, of course, it tasted *better*. We went to Safeway.
> Half of the produce had little signs that said "grown in Canada". The
> other half had no signs.


You went to Canada and bought Budweiser?

In article > ,
Elder > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> > Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
> > speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
> >
> So if the Mexicans speak Mexican, and Americans speak American, and all
> the labels are in english and spanish, who can read them?

The Americans will just read the Bible. At least that's written in
American, isn't it?

:-(

Not to mention that Mexico is part of North America, so aren't they
Americans?

"Dan Abel" > wrote

> Not to mention that Mexico is part of North America, so aren't they
> Americans?

No. They're North Americans, or Mexicans.

nancy

In article <_rdci.20671$kY6.5975@edtnps82>, "Peter" >
wrote:

> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Canadians are weird that way. I haven't spent much time in Canada, but
> > my wife and I had a short visit there a few years ago. We went to the
> > liquor store and I bought some Budweiser beer. It had the familiar red
> > and white can. When I looked at the fine print, though, it said "made
> > in Canada under license". It didn't taste quite the same, although that
> > was fine, since, of course, it tasted *better*. We went to Safeway.
> > Half of the produce had little signs that said "grown in Canada". The
> > other half had no signs.
>
>
> You went to Canada and bought Budweiser?

I bought some others, but didn't think they needed comment.

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:53:17 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> notbob > wrote:
>
>
>> Sears just labeled everything they sell in Spanish so the illegals
>
>Not everybody who reads Spanish is an illegal. Not all illegals speak
>Spanish.

plus, what's the sweat off anyone's balls if the label has both
english and spanish? are you denied some fine english prose if some
yabbo is informed not to use his radio in the bathtub in spanish as
well?

in the case of wal-mart, just be glad it's not all in chinese.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:47:59 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2007-06-13, BOBOBOnoBO® > wrote:
>
>> Do you have any suggestions as to what we should DO about the above?
>> That was not a rhetorical question.
>
>Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
>speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
>
>nb

see ya, asshole.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:18:34 +0100, Elder
> wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
>> speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
>>
>So if the Mexicans speak Mexican, and Americans speak American, and all
>the labels are in english and spanish, who can read them?

we'll have to outsource the translations to india, where they speak
indian.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:51:05 GMT, "tom" > wrote:

>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> > Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
>> > speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
>> >
>http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp
>

i'm sure you must have a point here. that unruly high school students
are poised to take over america? everyone knows you need a yale
graduate to run the country properly.

your pal,
george

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:51:05 GMT, "tom" > wrote:
>
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>> > Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
>>> > speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
>>> >
>>http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp
>>
>
> i'm sure you must have a point here. that unruly high school students
> are poised to take over america? everyone knows you need a yale
> graduate to run the country properly.
>
> your pal,
> george

Blake, you just kill me. You really do.

On 2007-06-14, blake murphy > wrote:

> see ya, asshole.

Ah, the voice of tolerence.

nb

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article > ,
> Elder > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>> So if the Mexicans speak Mexican, and Americans speak American, and
>> all the labels are in english and spanish, who can read them?
>
> Not to mention that Mexico is part of North America, so aren't they
> Americans?

Nope. Canada is part of North America, too, but they're still Canadians

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:32:29 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2007-06-14, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> see ya, asshole.
>
>Ah, the voice of tolerence.
>
>nb

no, i don't have much tolerance for bigots. most of them are stupid
and ignorant. so sue me.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:18:42 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:51:05 GMT, "tom" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>> > Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
>>>> > speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
>>>> >
>>>http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp
>>>
>>
>> i'm sure you must have a point here. that unruly high school students
>> are poised to take over america? everyone knows you need a yale
>> graduate to run the country properly.
>>
>> your pal,
>> george
>
>Blake, you just kill me. You really do.
>

by degrees, i hope. i don't want you to expire all at once.

your pal,
blake

On 2007-06-15, blake murphy > wrote:

> no, i don't have much tolerance for bigots.

Interesting. Where you getting "bigot" from.

nb

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:01:17 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2007-06-15, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> no, i don't have much tolerance for bigots.
>
>Interesting. Where you getting "bigot" from.
>
>nb

reading the crap you post. where do you think?

your pal,
blake

On 2007-06-16, blake murphy > wrote:

> reading the crap you post. where do you think?

If I knew, I wouldn't have asked. I think you confuse my feelings
about the illegal immigration problems this country is facing with
ethnic and cultural issues. Not the same.

nb

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:08:31 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2007-06-16, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> reading the crap you post. where do you think?
>
>If I knew, I wouldn't have asked. I think you confuse my feelings
>about the illegal immigration problems this country is facing with
>ethnic and cultural issues. Not the same.
>
>nb

how else am i to take this?

>> says...
>> > Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
>> > speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.

or do you think it would be o.k. if everyone speaks 'mexican' as long
as all the immigrants are legal? it sounds like you fear the brown
hordes.

if i'm wrong, my apologies. but you must admit it would be an easy
mistake to make.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:17:38 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:08:31 -0500, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2007-06-16, blake murphy > wrote:
>>
>>> reading the crap you post. where do you think?
>>
>>If I knew, I wouldn't have asked. I think you confuse my feelings
>>about the illegal immigration problems this country is facing with
>>ethnic and cultural issues. Not the same.
>>
>>nb
>
>how else am i to take this?
>
>>> says...
>>> > Nevermind. It doesn't matter. It's too late anyway. You all will be
>>> > speaking Mexican in a few decades and I'll be long gone. Have fun.
>
>or do you think it would be o.k. if everyone speaks 'mexican' as long
>as all the immigrants are legal? it sounds like you fear the brown
>hordes.
>
>if i'm wrong, my apologies. but you must admit it would be an easy
>mistake to make.
>
Tagging on to your post.... Assimilation is the real issue.

Keeping the their home language is not the problem, it's only a
symptom - not learning the language of their host country is what
isolates them and keeps them on the bottom rung of the earning ladder
Any immigrant (legal or not) who is a forward thinker understands
that.

IMO: there are three issues surrounding not learning the language of
their the host country:

1. It is beneficial to employers to keep their illegal workers as
ignorant as possible (because they don't speak the host language) so
they can keep wages low and working conditions don't have to comply
with the law because workers don't know their rights.
2. It is hard for illegals to take advantage of free English classes
because they don't want to expose themselves even though they will not
be reported and deported.
3. Illegals have limited opportunities to practice the language even
if they do take ESL classes because they don't want to expose
themselves.

We need to reintroduce guest worker programs for farm workers.

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In article >, sf wrote:


> Tagging on to your post.... Assimilation is the real issue.
>
> Keeping the their home language is not the problem, it's only a
> symptom - not learning the language of their host country is what
> isolates them and keeps them on the bottom rung of the earning ladder
> Any immigrant (legal or not) who is a forward thinker understands
> that.


I've presented my theory about this, based on my limited experience.
Immigrants do not learn the new language. It's hard for adults to learn
a new language and they don't have time. Their children learn both
languages, the old one to talk to their parents and the new one so they
can go to school. Their grandchildren only learn the new language.


I agree, assimilation is important. I think the language is less
important in the long run.

My niece and nephew are bilingual. I predict that their children will
only know English.