On Jun 19, 5:12 am, "Mr Curious" > wrote:
> http://blog.ruhlman.com/ruhlmancom/2...ns_nightm.html
>
> June 15, 2007
> RUHLMAN'S NIGHTMARE COME TRUE
> by Bourdain

There's a second post of Bourdain's dated the 18th on Ruhlman's blog.
Joe Bob sez check it out!

> wrote in message
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> On Jun 19, 5:12 am, "Mr Curious" > wrote:
>> http://blog.ruhlman.com/ruhlmancom/2...ns_nightm.html
>>
>> June 15, 2007
>> RUHLMAN'S NIGHTMARE COME TRUE
>> by Bourdain
>
> There's a second post of Bourdain's dated the 18th on Ruhlman's blog.
> Joe Bob sez check it out!


Bourdain on Ruhlman. Always a good read.

Hasta,
Curt Nelson

wrote:

> On Jun 19, 5:12 am, "Mr Curious" > wrote:
> > http://blog.ruhlman.com/ruhlmancom/2...ns_nightm.html
> >
> > June 15, 2007
> > RUHLMAN'S NIGHTMARE COME TRUE
> > by Bourdain
>
> There's a second post of Bourdain's dated the 18th on Ruhlman's blog.
> Joe Bob sez check it out!

The usual Bourdain savaging of Food Network. What puzzled me was this:

"And even the Food Net might--at this point in history--be willing to
defy their traditional, core audience "older Bible Belt" consituency
with an openly *** host in the hopes of attracting newer, younger
viewers."


Ummm, has Tony already forgotten the first season winners?




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Jun 20, 12:34 pm, "Default User" > wrote:
> wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 5:12 am, "Mr Curious" > wrote:
> > >http://blog.ruhlman.com/ruhlmancom/2...ns_nightm.html
>
> > > June 15, 2007
> > > RUHLMAN'S NIGHTMARE COME TRUE
> > > by Bourdain
>
> > There's a second post of Bourdain's dated the 18th on Ruhlman's blog.
> > Joe Bob sez check it out!
>
> The usual Bourdain savaging of Food Network. What puzzled me was this:
>
> "And even the Food Net might--at this point in history--be willing to
> defy their traditional, core audience "older Bible Belt" consituency
> with an openly *** host in the hopes of attracting newer, younger
> viewers."
>
> Ummm, has Tony already forgotten the first season winners?

Maybe he has, or perhaps he wasn't watching it then. But yes, the
winners of the first "Next FN Star" series were those openly *** guys
(whose show is terrible, IMO); and Reggie, who was obviously ***, made
it to the finals last time. So Paul (if I recall the guy's name)
strikes me as this season's token blatantly *** guy. That, plus the
guy's skittishness tell me he hasn't got a chance in Hades of winning
this contest. I don't know what Bourdain is smoking in rooting for
this guy; maybe it's just preference for one of the underdogs. My
underdog of choice for this season is Jag, but I expect him to be
going fairly soon -- especially now that it's emerged he fabricated
and/or misrepresented some of his military and culinary experience.

"Default User" > wrote

> The usual Bourdain savaging of Food Network. What puzzled me was this:
>
> "And even the Food Net might--at this point in history--be willing to
> defy their traditional, core audience "older Bible Belt" consituency
> with an openly *** host in the hopes of attracting newer, younger
> viewers."
>
>
> Ummm, has Tony already forgotten the first season winners?

And wasn't Guy Fiero (sp) last year's winner? I hardly think he's who
they'd choose to appeal to older Bible Belt types.

At least, I wasn't aware that bleach blond loud guys with a lot
of bling was Bible Belt taste.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> "Default User" > wrote

>
> And wasn't Guy Fiero (sp) last year's winner? I hardly think he's who
> they'd choose to appeal to older Bible Belt types.
>
> At least, I wasn't aware that bleach blond loud guys with a lot
> of bling was Bible Belt taste.
>
> nancy

Isn't that their kids? It would be just like a visit home from their
Venice CA escapee.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

"Giusi" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "Default User" > wrote
>
>>
>> And wasn't Guy Fiero (sp) last year's winner? I hardly think he's who
>> they'd choose to appeal to older Bible Belt types.
>>
>> At least, I wasn't aware that bleach blond loud guys with a lot
>> of bling was Bible Belt taste.

> Isn't that their kids? It would be just like a visit home from their
> Venice CA escapee.

Haha! You're right. I like his show, I like the Hearty Boys, too.

I have no idea who I'd like from the current crop, though. I've only
seen one episode.

nancy

On Jun 20, 1:15 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Giusi" > wrote
>
> > Nancy Young wrote:
> >> "Default User" > wrote
>
> >> And wasn't Guy Fiero (sp) last year's winner? I hardly think he's who
> >> they'd choose to appeal to older Bible Belt types.
>
> >> At least, I wasn't aware that bleach blond loud guys with a lot
> >> of bling was Bible Belt taste.
> > Isn't that their kids? It would be just like a visit home from their
> > Venice CA escapee.
>
> Haha! You're right. I like his show, I like the Hearty Boys, too.
>
> I have no idea who I'd like from the current crop, though. I've only
> seen one episode.
>
> nancy


Tony B. is always so impressed with the sound of his voice, both
literally and figuratively, that he annoys me no end. His criticisms
of the contestants' efforts may have been valid, but there was no
reason for him to be so sarcastic and just plain nasty.

I don't have a favorite yet - maybe Amy, although I don't know how
much substance is there....

N.

> underdog of choice for this season is Jag, but I expect him to be
> going fairly soon -- especially now that it's emerged he fabricated
> and/or misrepresented some of his military and culinary experience.

What did he misrepresent?

N.

On Jun 21, 11:21 am, Nancy2 > wrote:
> > underdog of choice for this season is Jag, but I expect him to be
> > going fairly soon -- especially now that it's emerged he fabricated
> > and/or misrepresented some of his military and culinary experience.
>
> What did he misrepresent?
>
> N.

Supposedly Jag claims he was released from the military as a corporal
when he was really released as a private; he claimed he saw combat
service in Afganistan when he did not (although he apparently responds
that the FN played a role in this fiction, since they were seeking a
person withc combat experience); and he claims to have graduated from
a NY culinary school which he really attended without graduating.

Bourdain's comments on Next FN Star

Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Wed, Jun 20, 2007, 2:02pm From:
(Nancy*Young)
+And wasn't Guy Fiero (sp) last year's winner? I hardly think he's who
they'd choose to appeal to older Bible Belt types."
"At least, I wasn't aware that bleach blond loud guys with a lot of
bling was Bible Belt taste."
nancy




Guy and Racheal Ray need to go to an island together.He needs to drop
all the jewelry and tone down a bit,lose the bleach.Something about him
irritates me,cant watch him for long,,,too skitish
Cheers,Smitty

"Food and Films,What else is do you need?...Well.."

On Jun 22, 11:30 am, Kyle > wrote:
> On Jun 21, 11:21 am, Nancy2 > wrote:
>
> > > underdog of choice for this season is Jag, but I expect him to be
> > > going fairly soon -- especially now that it's emerged he fabricated
> > > and/or misrepresented some of his military and culinary experience.
>
> > What did he misrepresent?
>
> > N.
>
> Supposedly Jag claims he was released from the military as a corporal
> when he was really released as a private; he claimed he saw combat
> service in Afganistan when he did not (although he apparently responds
> that the FN played a role in this fiction, since they were seeking a
> person withc combat experience); and he claims to have graduated from
> a NY culinary school which he really attended without graduating.


All put together, them's some pretty big "misrepresentations."
Apparently, FN isn't worried any more about credibility issues.

N.

On Jun 22, 12:30 pm, Kyle > wrote:
> On Jun 21, 11:21 am, Nancy2 > wrote:
>
> > > underdog of choice for this season is Jag, but I expect him to be
> > > going fairly soon -- especially now that it's emerged he fabricated
> > > and/or misrepresented some of his military and culinary experience.
>
> > What did he misrepresent?
>
> > N.
>
> Supposedly Jag claims he was released from the military as a corporal
> when he was really released as a private; he claimed he saw combat
> service in Afganistan when he did not (although he apparently responds
> that the FN played a role in this fiction, since they were seeking a
> person withc combat experience); and he claims to have graduated from
> a NY culinary school which he really attended without graduating.



Jag is a glaring fake, as is Tony Bourdain.

I like Bourdain's books, but I would never patronize a restaurant at
which he is the chef. Bourdain is a former long-time heroin junkie
who prefers to hire ex-cons and illegal aliens over people who
graduated from culinery school.

He hates his patrons, hates educated people, hates everyone who
disagrees with him, gleefully serves substandard food if he just
doesn't like your face.

He had a show on FN, and when it wasn't renewed, lashed out against it
like a jealous little boy who didn't get
his way. He made insultive statements against FN and its programs and
hosts..

If he hates FN so much, why did he take a job with them?

Keep writing, Tonino, (that's where your talent lies), but stay out of
the kitchen.

wrote:

> I like Bourdain's books, but I would never patronize a restaurant at
> which he is the chef. Bourdain is a former long-time heroin junkie
> who prefers to hire ex-cons and illegal aliens over people who
> graduated from culinery school.
>
> He hates his patrons, hates educated people, hates everyone who
> disagrees with him, gleefully serves substandard food if he just
> doesn't like your face.

Wow. I never got that impression from him.
I like the guy. I don't feel "hated" by him.
Loved Les Halles years ago, and was very impressed with it.

On Jul 14, 5:37 pm, "
> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 12:30 pm, Kyle > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 21, 11:21 am, Nancy2 > wrote:
>
> > > > underdog of choice for this season is Jag, but I expect him to be
> > > > going fairly soon -- especially now that it's emerged he fabricated
> > > > and/or misrepresented some of his military and culinary experience.
>
> > > What did he misrepresent?
>
> > > N.
>
> > Supposedly Jag claims he was released from the military as a corporal
> > when he was really released as a private; he claimed he saw combat
> > service in Afganistan when he did not (although he apparently responds
> > that the FN played a role in this fiction, since they were seeking a
> > person withc combat experience); and he claims to have graduated from
> > a NY culinary school which he really attended without graduating.
>
> Jag is a glaring fake, as is Tony Bourdain.
>
> I like Bourdain's books, but I would never patronize a restaurant at
> which he is the chef. Bourdain is a former long-time heroin junkie
> who prefers to hire ex-cons and illegal aliens over people who
> graduated from culinery school.

He's a *former* junkie. Why would you hold that against him?

And Bourdain gives good, convincing reasons for hiring the (mostly
Mexican) people he hires.


> He hates his patrons, hates educated people, hates everyone who
> disagrees with him, gleefully serves substandard food if he just
> doesn't like your face.

Where are you getting these ideas, Janos? Please be specific.


> He had a show on FN, and when it wasn't renewed, lashed out against it
> like a jealous little boy who didn't get
> his way. He made insultive statements against FN and its programs and
> hosts..

What are you smoking? Bourdain left the Food Network when they told
him the shows he likes to do -- particularly one about Ferran Adira
and El Bulli -- didn't fit their business model. The FN wanted him to
stop travelling abroad, stop featuring foreigners, and to start
emphasizing barbecue and hamburgers. They wanted to dumb him down,
turn him into anther Bobby Flay -- and Bourdain walked. He deserves
tons of respect for it; the FN deserves our continued contempt.

> If he hates FN so much, why did he take a job with them?

Usually, one doesn't get to know an entity until one is experienced
with it. Bourdain's show was the best thing the FN ever ran. It's
their fault, not his, that it ended, and the FN deserves ever jibe
Bourdain makes against them.

On 2007-07-15, Kyle > wrote:

> And Bourdain gives good, convincing reasons for hiring the (mostly
> Mexican) people he hires.

Then he's liar. He hires them cuz they're cheap. End of story.
Mexicans don't chop lettuce better than anyone else.

> turn him into anther Bobby Flay -- and Bourdain walked. He deserves
> tons of respect for it; the FN deserves our continued contempt.

So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and
eating eyeballs and snake blood. Yeah, a real class act.

nb

> wrote:
>Jag is a glaring fake, as is Tony Bourdain.

He's fake?

How is he fake?

Even if what you say below is true, it's pretty real.

>I like Bourdain's books, but I would never patronize a restaurant at
>which he is the chef. Bourdain is a former long-time heroin junkie
>who prefers to hire ex-cons and illegal aliens over people who
>graduated from culinery school.

He hires people who can cook. Culinary school is no
guarantee of that. Nor are lack of a criminal record
and a wet back.

>He hates his patrons,

Arrogant ones. But who doesn't?

>hates educated people,

See above re arrogant ones.

>hates everyone who
>disagrees with him,

And you're enjoying what I'm doing to you?

>gleefully serves substandard food if he just
>doesn't like your face.

Never heard it said before.

>He had a show on FN, and when it wasn't renewed, lashed out against it
>like a jealous little boy who didn't get
>his way.

FN changed its format in a way that even I can't
stomach any more. It doesn't care about the promotion
of cuisine at all. It's become a pandering sideshow.

His Travel Channel show is a lot better anyway. There
should be a special Emmy or something for his episode
in Beirut.

>He made insultive statements against FN and its programs and
>hosts..

Nothing wrong with that. As I said above, they
deserve it.

>If he hates FN so much, why did he take a job with them?

He didn't hate it until after it hated him. Life's
like that. I bet you still love me, though.

>Keep writing, Tonino, (that's where your talent lies), but stay out of
>the kitchen.

I bet he can make a beurre blanc to remember. But
what the **** did he do to you?

--Blair

On Jul 15, 1:16 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> > wrote:
> >Jag is a glaring fake, as is Tony Bourdain.
>
> He's fake?
>
> How is he fake?
>
> Even if what you say below is true, it's pretty real.
>
> >I like Bourdain's books, but I would never patronize a restaurant at
> >which he is the chef. Bourdain is a former long-time heroin junkie
> >who prefers to hire ex-cons and illegal aliens over people who
> >graduated from culinery school.
>
> He hires people who can cook. Culinary school is no
> guarantee of that. Nor are lack of a criminal record
> and a wet back.
>
> >He hates his patrons,
>
> Arrogant ones. But who doesn't?
>
> >hates educated people,
>
> See above re arrogant ones.
>
> >hates everyone who
> >disagrees with him,
>
> And you're enjoying what I'm doing to you?
>
> >gleefully serves substandard food if he just
> >doesn't like your face.
>
> Never heard it said before.
>
> >He had a show on FN, and when it wasn't renewed, lashed out against it
> >like a jealous little boy who didn't get
> >his way.
>
> FN changed its format in a way that even I can't
> stomach any more. It doesn't care about the promotion
> of cuisine at all. It's become a pandering sideshow.
>
> His Travel Channel show is a lot better anyway. There
> should be a special Emmy or something for his episode
> in Beirut.
>
> >He made insultive statements against FN and its programs and
> >hosts..
>
> Nothing wrong with that. As I said above, they
> deserve it.
>
> >If he hates FN so much, why did he take a job with them?
>
> He didn't hate it until after it hated him. Life's
> like that. I bet you still love me, though.
>
> >Keep writing, Tonino, (that's where your talent lies), but stay out of
> >the kitchen.
>
> I bet he can make a beurre blanc to remember. But
> what the **** did he do to you?
>
> --Blair



>And you're enjoying what I'm doing to you?

What are you doing to me, disagreeing? Why would that bother a normal
person? Does everyone you know agree with everything you say and
think? Not possible.

> I bet you still love me, though.
??? How does one love a person he's never heard of?

Anyway, your anger at not agreeing with me is disturbing. See a
doctor.

On 2007-07-15, > wrote:

> Anyway, your anger at not agreeing with me is disturbing. See a
> doctor.

Your not trimming your posts is annoying. Get a clue.

nb

On Jul 14, 9:25 pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2007-07-15, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > And Bourdain gives good, convincing reasons for hiring the (mostly
> > Mexican) people he hires.
>
> Then he's liar. He hires them cuz they're cheap. End of story.
> Mexicans don't chop lettuce better than anyone else.
>
> > turn him into anther Bobby Flay -- and Bourdain walked. He deserves
> > tons of respect for it; the FN deserves our continued contempt.
>
> So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and
> eating eyeballs and snake blood. Yeah, a real class act.

We've argued about Bourdain before, NB, and your comments here are a
reminder that you know extremely little about the guy; and you've
paradoxically got some weird issues with him. Bourdain goes into
detail in several of his books as to why he likes to employ Mexicans
(they're skilled & hard workers). Your comments about Mexicans "being
cheap" and "chopping lettuce" amount to mere stereotyping. Bourdain
doesn't badmouth "everyone in the industry." He's generous in his
praise for good cooks. He does, however, bash many of the *FN
personalities*, and he does so amusingly & creatively. They deserve
his contempt.

On Jul 15, 6:04 pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2007-07-15, > wrote:
>
> > Anyway, your anger at not agreeing with me is disturbing. See a
> > doctor.
>
> Your not trimming your posts is annoying. Get a clue.
>
> nb


What does this mean?

> wrote:
>Anyway, your anger at not agreeing with me is disturbing. See a
>doctor.

If you read anger in my post, you read it only in your own head.

Your anger at Tony Bourdain is what's disturbing.

Your projection of that on me is just Usenet.

--Blair

wrote:
> On Jul 15, 1:16 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>> And you're enjoying what I'm doing to you?
>
> What are you doing to me, disagreeing? Why would that bother a normal
> person? Does everyone you know agree with everything you say and
> think? Not possible.

Then clearly Bourdain is (by your logic) an abnormal person.

Logic continues: And since there is no established "normal" person, it
follows that there can be no "abnormal" person. That means either that
Bourdain is by necessity not abnormal, or that he does not in fact exist
at all. You decide.



>
>> I bet you still love me, though.
> ??? How does one love a person he's never heard of?

You've heard of Blair. You read his posts here, so you know of him. What
you haven't done is meet him, just as you haven't met Bourdain. But
you've heard of Bourdain, obviously. It's unlikely that you would love
either Bourdain or Blair just because you've heard of them -- you would
have to actually interact with them on a personal level for that. For
the same reason, it's just as unlikely that you would hate them. So what
drives your hatred of Bourdain, a man you've heard of but never met?


>
> Anyway, your anger at not agreeing with me is disturbing.

He's flagellating himself right now for not agreeing with you.

<actually, he likes it, so don't congratulate yourself>

On Jul 15, 9:54 pm, Pennyaline > wrote:
> wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 1:16 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> >> And you're enjoying what I'm doing to you?
>
> > What are you doing to me, disagreeing? Why would that bother a normal
> > person? Does everyone you know agree with everything you say and
> > think? Not possible.
>
> Then clearly Bourdain is (by your logic) an abnormal person.
>
> Logic continues: And since there is no established "normal" person, it
> follows that there can be no "abnormal" person. That means either that
> Bourdain is by necessity not abnormal, or that he does not in fact exist
> at all. You decide.
>
>
>
> >> I bet you still love me, though.
> > ??? How does one love a person he's never heard of?
>
> You've heard of Blair. You read his posts here, so you know of him. What
> you haven't done is meet him, just as you haven't met Bourdain. But
> you've heard of Bourdain, obviously. It's unlikely that you would love
> either Bourdain or Blair just because you've heard of them -- you would
> have to actually interact with them on a personal level for that. For
> the same reason, it's just as unlikely that you would hate them. So what
> drives your hatred of Bourdain, a man you've heard of but never met?
>
>
>
> > Anyway, your anger at not agreeing with me is disturbing.
>
> He's flagellating himself right now for not agreeing with you.
>
> <actually, he likes it, so don't congratulate yourself>


This thread becomes more disturbing each minute.
Why would anyone become so upset at not being agreed with?

It is strange that so many people don't believe in freedom of speech.
It seems to be a problem that affects Muslims and Republicans.

On Jul 15, 1:16 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> His Travel Channel show is a lot better anyway. There
> should be a special Emmy or something for his episode
> in Beirut.

>
> --Blair


I like Tony-Rony an awful lot, but I think he acted like some scared
spoiled brat on that show - I haven't seen a new episode since. Has
there been one?

I think it was the most boring episode one of all -- an half-hour show
at best. Need we have seen every furrowed brow of his hour-by-hour as
he was 'WAITING....." Ugh!
Dee Dee

On Jun 20, 2:02 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Default User" > wrote
>
> > The usual Bourdain savaging of Food Network. What puzzled me was this:
>
> > "And even the Food Net might--at this point in history--be willing to
> > defy their traditional, core audience "older Bible Belt" consituency
> > with an openly *** host in the hopes of attracting newer, younger
> > viewers."
>
> > Ummm, has Tony already forgotten the first season winners?
>
> And wasn't Guy Fiero (sp) last year's winner? I hardly think he's who
> they'd choose to appeal to older Bible Belt types.
>
> At least, I wasn't aware that bleach blond loud guys with a lot
> of bling was Bible Belt taste.
>
> nancy

Is "Bible Belt" and area or a mind-set, or both. Is it always the
South; can there be a Southern as well as a Northern Bible Belt? Do
people who have Bible Belt taste have different tastes as opposed to
what? normal people?

Just trying to figure out these stereotypes of Rednecks, Bible Belt
persons, I suppose there are more ... older Bible Belt types vs.
younger Bible Belt types.


Dee Dee

On Jul 15, 6:19 pm, Kyle > wrote:
> On Jul 14, 9:25 pm, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2007-07-15, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > And Bourdain gives good, convincing reasons for hiring the (mostly
> > > Mexican) people he hires.
>
> > Then he's liar. He hires them cuz they're cheap. End of story.
> > Mexicans don't chop lettuce better than anyone else.
>
> > > turn him into anther Bobby Flay -- and Bourdain walked. He deserves
> > > tons of respect for it; the FN deserves our continued contempt.
>
> > So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and
> > eating eyeballs and snake blood. Yeah, a real class act.
>
> We've argued about Bourdain before, NB, and your comments here are a
> reminder that you know extremely little about the guy; and you've
> paradoxically got some weird issues with him. Bourdain goes into
> detail in several of his books as to why he likes to employ Mexicans
> (they're skilled & hard workers). Your comments about Mexicans "being
> cheap" and "chopping lettuce" amount to mere stereotyping. Bourdain
> doesn't badmouth "everyone in the industry." He's generous in his
> praise for good cooks. He does, however, bash many of the *FN
> personalities*, and he does so amusingly & creatively. They deserve
> his contempt.



I'm showing my age, but I think that being a heroin junkie shows a
lack of character.

In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
distributor instead of the variety.
Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes. He doesn't.

notbob > wrote:
>So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and

He likes Emeril.

Not Emeril's show, maybe. But his food and his chops.

--Blair

On Jul 15, 9:43 pm, "
> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 6:19 pm, Kyle > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 14, 9:25 pm, notbob > wrote:
>
> > > On 2007-07-15, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > > And Bourdain gives good, convincing reasons for hiring the (mostly
> > > > Mexican) people he hires.
>
> > > Then he's liar. He hires them cuz they're cheap. End of story.
> > > Mexicans don't chop lettuce better than anyone else.
>
> > > > turn him into anther Bobby Flay -- and Bourdain walked. He deserves
> > > > tons of respect for it; the FN deserves our continued contempt.
>
> > > So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and
> > > eating eyeballs and snake blood. Yeah, a real class act.
>
> > We've argued about Bourdain before, NB, and your comments here are a
> > reminder that you know extremely little about the guy; and you've
> > paradoxically got some weird issues with him. Bourdain goes into
> > detail in several of his books as to why he likes to employ Mexicans
> > (they're skilled & hard workers). Your comments about Mexicans "being
> > cheap" and "chopping lettuce" amount to mere stereotyping. Bourdain
> > doesn't badmouth "everyone in the industry." He's generous in his
> > praise for good cooks. He does, however, bash many of the *FN
> > personalities*, and he does so amusingly & creatively. They deserve
> > his contempt.
>
> I'm showing my age, but I think that being a heroin junkie shows a
> lack of character.

You're showing confusion more than age. I've reminded you already
that Bourdain is a *former* heroin addict. He conquered it. What
could be more characterful than that?


> In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
> potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
> distributor instead of the variety.
> Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes. He doesn't.- Hide quoted text -

I'm a bit skeptical of this story. But help me out: What type of
potatoes (which you say TB could not identify) are in this pic?

wrote:

> It is strange that so many people don't believe in freedom of speech.

Fredom of speech IS NOT freedom *from* disagreeable speech or freedom from
retort to YOUR speech.

> It seems to be a problem that affects Muslims and Republicans.

Now that is just plain dog-shit stupid.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

On Jul 15, 10:59 pm, Kyle > wrote:
> On Jul 15, 9:43 pm, "
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 6:19 pm, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 14, 9:25 pm, notbob > wrote:
>
> > > > On 2007-07-15, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > > > And Bourdain gives good, convincing reasons for hiring the (mostly
> > > > > Mexican) people he hires.
>
> > > > Then he's liar. He hires them cuz they're cheap. End of story.
> > > > Mexicans don't chop lettuce better than anyone else.
>
> > > > > turn him into anther Bobby Flay -- and Bourdain walked. He deserves
> > > > > tons of respect for it; the FN deserves our continued contempt.
>
> > > > So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and
> > > > eating eyeballs and snake blood. Yeah, a real class act.
>
> > > We've argued about Bourdain before, NB, and your comments here are a
> > > reminder that you know extremely little about the guy; and you've
> > > paradoxically got some weird issues with him. Bourdain goes into
> > > detail in several of his books as to why he likes to employ Mexicans
> > > (they're skilled & hard workers). Your comments about Mexicans "being
> > > cheap" and "chopping lettuce" amount to mere stereotyping. Bourdain
> > > doesn't badmouth "everyone in the industry." He's generous in his
> > > praise for good cooks. He does, however, bash many of the *FN
> > > personalities*, and he does so amusingly & creatively. They deserve
> > > his contempt.
>
> > I'm showing my age, but I think that being a heroin junkie shows a
> > lack of character.
>
> You're showing confusion more than age. I've reminded you already
> that Bourdain is a *former* heroin addict. He conquered it. What
> could be more characterful than that?
>
> > In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
> > potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
> > distributor instead of the variety.
> > Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes. He doesn't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> I'm a bit skeptical of this story. But help me out: What type of
> potatoes (which you say TB could not identify) are in this pic?


Why are you skeptical of this story? You could read his books for
yourself. You don't even have to buy them, you could borrow them from
your local public library for free.

(The public library is a place where you can borrow books to
read...ever hear of it...books...read)?

wrote:
> This thread becomes more disturbing each minute.

I agree. I wish you'd stop responding to the responses. If you would
just do that...



> Why would anyone become so upset at not being agreed with?

We don't know. We're waiting for you to explain it to us.



> It is strange that so many people don't believe in freedom of speech.
> It seems to be a problem that affects Muslims and Republicans.

I had no idea. If there's anything I can do to help, you just give a
holler, 'kay?

On Jul 15, 10:43 pm, "
> wrote:
..
>
> In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
> potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
> distributor instead of the variety.
> Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes.

Maybe in Poland. Not here. Jak zmash.

Don't winge so damn much, buster.

T.

On Jul 15, 10:48 pm, "
> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 10:59 pm, Kyle > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 15, 9:43 pm, "
>
> > > wrote:
> > > On Jul 15, 6:19 pm, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 14, 9:25 pm, notbob > wrote:
>
> > > > > On 2007-07-15, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > > > > And Bourdain gives good, convincing reasons for hiring the (mostly
> > > > > > Mexican) people he hires.
>
> > > > > Then he's liar. He hires them cuz they're cheap. End of story.
> > > > > Mexicans don't chop lettuce better than anyone else.
>
> > > > > > turn him into anther Bobby Flay -- and Bourdain walked. He deserves
> > > > > > tons of respect for it; the FN deserves our continued contempt.
>
> > > > > So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and
> > > > > eating eyeballs and snake blood. Yeah, a real class act.
>
> > > > We've argued about Bourdain before, NB, and your comments here are a
> > > > reminder that you know extremely little about the guy; and you've
> > > > paradoxically got some weird issues with him. Bourdain goes into
> > > > detail in several of his books as to why he likes to employ Mexicans
> > > > (they're skilled & hard workers). Your comments about Mexicans "being
> > > > cheap" and "chopping lettuce" amount to mere stereotyping. Bourdain
> > > > doesn't badmouth "everyone in the industry." He's generous in his
> > > > praise for good cooks. He does, however, bash many of the *FN
> > > > personalities*, and he does so amusingly & creatively. They deserve
> > > > his contempt.
>
> > > I'm showing my age, but I think that being a heroin junkie shows a
> > > lack of character.
>
> > You're showing confusion more than age. I've reminded you already
> > that Bourdain is a *former* heroin addict. He conquered it. What
> > could be more characterful than that?
>
> > > In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
> > > potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
> > > distributor instead of the variety.
> > > Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes. He doesn't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > I'm a bit skeptical of this story. But help me out: What type of
> > potatoes (which you say TB could not identify) are in this pic?
>
> Why are you skeptical of this story? You could read his books for
> yourself. You don't even have to buy them, you could borrow them from
> your local public library for free.

If "every old lady" knows her potatoes so well, it's funny that you
*can't* identify the ones in the photo.

On Jul 15, 9:56 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> notbob > wrote:
> >So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and
>
> He likes Emeril.
>
> Not Emeril's show, maybe. But his food and his chops.

He's bashed Emeril's appearance and antics (and his audience), but
admitted that Emeril is a real cook who had paid his dues. My
impression is that TB stopped bashing Emeril after he met several of
Emeril's workers in New Orleans and found that they had nothing but
good things to say about their employer.

wrote:

> In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
> potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
> distributor instead of the variety.
> Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes. He doesn't.

Maybe it's because he's not an old lady and you are.

Dee Dee > wrote:
>On Jul 15, 1:16 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>> His Travel Channel show is a lot better anyway. There
>> should be a special Emmy or something for his episode
>> in Beirut.
>
>I like Tony-Rony an awful lot, but I think he acted like some scared
>spoiled brat on that show - I haven't seen a new episode since. Has
>there been one?
>
>I think it was the most boring episode one of all -- an half-hour show
>at best. Need we have seen every furrowed brow of his hour-by-hour as
>he was 'WAITING....." Ugh!

You're supposed to watch it with the sound on, and use
your coconut while the words are coming through.

--Blair

On Jul 16, 6:09 am, wrote:
> On Jul 15, 10:43 pm, "<janospet...@hotmail. com> wrote:
>
> .
>
>
>
> > In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
> > potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
> > distributor instead of the variety.
> > Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes.
>
> Maybe in Poland. Not here. Jak zmash.
>
> Don't winge so damn much, buster.
>
> T.

There are more potato varieties in the U.S. than in Poland. Bourdain
could have named any of them, but didn't.

On Jul 16, 8:58 am, Kyle > wrote:
> On Jul 15, 10:48 pm, "
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 10:59 pm, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 15, 9:43 pm, "
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > On Jul 15, 6:19 pm, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 14, 9:25 pm, notbob > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 2007-07-15, Kyle > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > And Bourdain gives good, convincing reasons for hiring the (mostly
> > > > > > > Mexican) people he hires.
>
> > > > > > Then he's liar. He hires them cuz they're cheap. End of story.
> > > > > > Mexicans don't chop lettuce better than anyone else.
>
> > > > > > > turn him into anther Bobby Flay -- and Bourdain walked. He deserves
> > > > > > > tons of respect for it; the FN deserves our continued contempt.
>
> > > > > > So, now we get him bad mouthing everyone else in the industry and
> > > > > > eating eyeballs and snake blood. Yeah, a real class act.
>
> > > > > We've argued about Bourdain before, NB, and your comments here are a
> > > > > reminder that you know extremely little about the guy; and you've
> > > > > paradoxically got some weird issues with him. Bourdain goes into
> > > > > detail in several of his books as to why he likes to employ Mexicans
> > > > > (they're skilled & hard workers). Your comments about Mexicans "being
> > > > > cheap" and "chopping lettuce" amount to mere stereotyping. Bourdain
> > > > > doesn't badmouth "everyone in the industry." He's generous in his
> > > > > praise for good cooks. He does, however, bash many of the *FN
> > > > > personalities*, and he does so amusingly & creatively. They deserve
> > > > > his contempt.
>
> > > > I'm showing my age, but I think that being a heroin junkie shows a
> > > > lack of character.
>
> > > You're showing confusion more than age. I've reminded you already
> > > that Bourdain is a *former* heroin addict. He conquered it. What
> > > could be more characterful than that?
>
> > > > In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
> > > > potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
> > > > distributor instead of the variety.
> > > > Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes. He doesn't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > I'm a bit skeptical of this story. But help me out: What type of
> > > potatoes (which you say TB could not identify) are in this pic?
>
> > Why are you skeptical of this story? You could read his books for
> > yourself. You don't even have to buy them, you could borrow them from
> > your local public library for free.
>
> If "every old lady" knows her potatoes so well, it's funny that you
> *can't* identify the ones in the photo.

The box in the photo and Bourdain's comment is the name of the
distributor. Maybe you should do your homework before responding to
posts you know nothing about.

Your homosexual crush on Bourdain isn't a big deal, but you don't have
to make up lies.
He's never going to like you.

On Jul 16, 6:35 pm, Pennyaline > wrote:
> wrote:
> > In his book, "Les Halles Cookbook", he didn't even know what type of
> > potato he was serving, (there is a photo of the box). He named the
> > distributor instead of the variety.
> > Every old lady knows the difference in potatoes. He doesn't.
>
> Maybe it's because he's not an old lady and you are.


There are more potato varieties in the U.S. than in Poland. Bourdain
could have named any of them, but didn't, he named the distributor
instead.
Get over your obsession with Bourdain and do your homework. He's
never going to like you. (Even if he sends you an autographed photo).

Focus on someone more attainable for someone like you. Elvis, for
instance.