It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...

So what if I just don't like the genuine model?

--Blair

Blair P Houghton wrote:

> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...

This is the second allusion I've seen today about what seems to be
coutnerfeit Sri Racha. What's developed while I've been napping --
there's a trade in this?


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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 02:47:43 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

>It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
>I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>
>So what if I just don't like the genuine model?
>
> --Blair

Too bad, you_must_use the genuine model, period, end of subject.

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On Jun 30, 9:47 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>
> So what if I just don't like the genuine model?
>
> --Blair

If we're talking about Sri Racha sauce, I can't take it. Or Sambal
Olek. Isn't there a dry martini joke about passing the opened vermouth
bottle over the glass? If I open one of those sauce within a foot of
my dish, my ears ring, my eyes water and my tongue screams for a milk
bath.

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:59:00 -0700, stark >
wrote:

>On Jun 30, 9:47 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
>> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>>
>> So what if I just don't like the genuine model?
>>
>> --Blair
>
>If we're talking about Sri Racha sauce, I can't take it. Or Sambal
>Olek. Isn't there a dry martini joke about passing the opened vermouth
>bottle over the glass? If I open one of those sauce within a foot of
>my dish, my ears ring, my eyes water and my tongue screams for a milk
>bath.

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On Jun 30, 6:47 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>
> So what if I just don't like the genuine model?
>
> --Blair

Blair,

I just went to my pantry and pulled out the "rooster sauce", and mine
says sriracha, all caps and all one word. And near the bottom, Huy
Fong Foods, Inc., in Rosemead, CA. Since mine is all one word, is it
counterfeit? I hadn't heard about the counterfeit rooster sauce. I
get mine at an Asian market. Do you mean to say the Asians would
counterfeit something?

Thanks,

Ken

"stark" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Jun 30, 9:47 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
>> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>>
>> So what if I just don't like the genuine model?
>>
>> --Blair
>
> If we're talking about Sri Racha sauce, I can't take it. Or Sambal
> Olek. Isn't there a dry martini joke about passing the opened vermouth
> bottle over the glass? If I open one of those sauce within a foot of
> my dish, my ears ring, my eyes water and my tongue screams for a milk
> bath.


I buy the biggest jars of Sambal I can find, and go through a few a year.
So tastey.

On Jun 30, 8:47 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>
> So what if I just don't like the genuine model?

We always called it, "Cock Sauce."
>
> --Blair

--Bryan

On 2007-07-01, Blair P Houghton > wrote:
> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...

Just which one are you talking about and what constitutes
"counterfeit"? There are two major brands. One is made in SoCal and
the other in Thailand. If you consider the SoCal brand (Huy Fong, the
rooster logo) to be counterfeit, you are very much in the minority.
It's the dominant brand here in the SFBA, which has a very large Thai
population and is found in most Thai and Vietnamese restaurants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sriracha
http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/brands.html#sriracha
http://importfood.com/sriracha_sauce.html

Saying there is even such a thing as counterfeit sriracha is like
saying there are counterfeit mustards or ketcups. It's a non-issue.

nb

On Jul 1, 2:23 pm, Steve Wertz >
>
> > Blair,
>
> > I just went to my pantry and pulled out the "rooster >>sauce", and mine says sriracha, all caps and all one >>word. And near the bottom, Huy Fong Foods, Inc., in >>Rosemead, CA. Since mine is all one word, is it >>counterfeit?
>
> That's the real stuff.
(Snip)
>
> -sw

Thanks Steve, now I can sleep tonight.

Ken

Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>Blair P Houghton wrote:
>
>> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
>> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>
>This is the second allusion I've seen today about what seems to be
>coutnerfeit Sri Racha. What's developed while I've been napping --
>there's a trade in this?

A recap for yourself another van winkle fans:

The notice on the Huy Fong site is about 3 years old,
just about the vintage of my bottle, and depending on how
long the counterfeits were being made, they could go back
to when I first tried sriracha. Huy Fong has the rooster
logo, hence "rooster sauce".

http://www.huyfong.com/same/counterfeit.htm

I didn't notice any difference in flavor when I acquired
my bottle. Which means either the counterfeit bottles
contain real Huy Fong (buying in bulk and bottling yourself
maybe could turn a profit), or the counterfeit rooster
sauce is an identical recipe, or all of the rooster sauce
I've ever had was from counterfeit sources, or the website
is wrong and my bottle is the real thing in a variant package.

--Blair

Ken > wrote:
>I just went to my pantry and pulled out the "rooster sauce", and mine
>says sriracha, all caps and all one word. And near the bottom, Huy
>Fong Foods, Inc., in Rosemead, CA. Since mine is all one word, is it
>counterfeit? I hadn't heard about the counterfeit rooster sauce. I
>get mine at an Asian market. Do you mean to say the Asians would
>counterfeit something?

The counterfeit's labelling is identical to the real
Huy Fong labelling. There are subtle differences in the
bottle, according to the Huy Fong website.

http://www.huyfong.com/same/counterfeit.htm

--Blair

BOBOBOnoBO® > wrote:
>On Jun 30, 8:47 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
>> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>>
>> So what if I just don't like the genuine model?
>
>We always called it, "Cock Sauce."

That's something entirely different:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/4/4419768_8b76a7df83.jpg

And, if you want to keep up the giggling, there's the
entire rude-food website:

http://www.dazbert.co.uk/sites/rudef...=food/cock.htm

--Blair

notbob > wrote:
>On 2007-07-01, Blair P Houghton > wrote:
>> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
>> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>
>Just which one are you talking about and what constitutes
>"counterfeit"? There are two major brands. One is made in SoCal and
>the other in Thailand. If you consider the SoCal brand (Huy Fong, the

I've seen three or four brands of sriracha on the shelves at
the Leelee.

In this case, "counterfeit" means someone's been
making fake Huy Fong bottles and filling them with
maybe non-Huy Fong sriracha that may not even be
sriracha.

>Saying there is even such a thing as counterfeit sriracha is like
>saying there are counterfeit mustards or ketcups. It's a non-issue.

Not to Huy Fong.

--Blair

On Jul 1, 4:10 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
> >Blair P Houghton wrote:
>

>
> A recap for yourself another van winkle fans:
>
> The notice on the Huy Fong site is about 3 years old,
> just about the vintage of my bottle, and depending on how

Blair,

If your bottle is three years old, I recommend buying a new bottle.
I've found it oxidizes or something making it lose its punch. This
will be especially noticed if you're using a particular amount from an
old bottle, then open a new one. When you use the same amount, it
definitely clears out the ol' sinuses.

Ken

Blair P Houghton wrote:
> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>Blair P Houghton wrote:
>>
>>> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce I've ever had
>>> has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>>
>>This is the second allusion I've seen today about what seems to be
>>coutnerfeit Sri Racha. What's developed while I've been napping --
>>there's a trade in this?
>
> A recap for yourself another van winkle fans:

Thanks, Blair.

> The notice on the Huy Fong site is about 3 years old, just about the
> vintage of my bottle, and depending on how long the counterfeits were
> being made, they could go back to when I first tried sriracha. Huy
> Fong has the rooster logo, hence "rooster sauce".
>
> http://www.huyfong.com/same/counterfeit.htm

My bottle definitely passes mustard (I know - it's a food pun!) on both
the batch/date criterion and the bottom emboss criterion. The ring
under my cap is *slightly* larger than the cap, but apparently what
they're calling "the same diameter of the green cap". The difference is
only .066" or .056", depending of measured against the flat sides of the
cap or the slight ridge at its bottom.

> I didn't notice any difference in flavor when I acquired my bottle.
> Which means either the counterfeit bottles contain real Huy Fong
> (buying in bulk and bottling yourself maybe could turn a profit), or
> the counterfeit rooster sauce is an identical recipe, or all of the
> rooster sauce I've ever had was from counterfeit sources, or the
> website is wrong and my bottle is the real thing in a variant package.

Ah! So we probably have a confirmed sighting on a fake. Interesting.
I'd doubt that the HF site has the criteria about its products wrong.

Thanks again.


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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:23:42 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote:


>That's the real stuff. I find that all the imports lack the
>depth of flavor that Huy Fong produces.
>
>Some with Mae Ploy sweet chili/garlic sauce - there is no
>substitute.
>
>-sw

I like Mae Ploy's coconut milk too. Kay Hartman used to suggest that
brand..she says her teacher said that was the best. I find it to be
much richer than others, except for one that is made in Thailand, I
believe. But Mae Ploy is the best.

Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>My bottle definitely passes mustard (I know - it's a food pun!) on both
>the batch/date criterion and the bottom emboss criterion. The ring
>under my cap is *slightly* larger than the cap, but apparently what
>they're calling "the same diameter of the green cap". The difference is
>only .066" or .056", depending of measured against the flat sides of the
>cap or the slight ridge at its bottom.

Mine has no stamp on the bottom; the date code is the
right format but is black not clear, but unsmudged; there
is no "ring", just a slight wideness to the neck.

>Ah! So we probably have a confirmed sighting on a fake. Interesting.
>I'd doubt that the HF site has the criteria about its products wrong.

You'd be surprised how much the left hands of a company
of any size can be ignorant of what the right hands know.
I'd be willing to bet that every one of the counterfeits
had a two-line datecode. And that Huy Fong actually used
a black-lettered datecode at one point.

--Blair

Steve Wertz > wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:18:54 GMT, Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
>> In this case, "counterfeit" means someone's been
>> making fake Huy Fong bottles and filling them with
>> maybe non-Huy Fong sriracha that may not even be
>> sriracha.
>
>Here's what Huy Fong has to say about the issue. I didn't know
>they had made a formal announcement, or that the counterfeits were
>so genuine-looking.
>
>http://huyfongfoods.com/same/counterfeit.htm
>
>They used to claim that only the "Genuine Sriracha" had the green
>cap. Now they're getting even more bold.
>
>So are you getting genuine counterfeit Huy Fong? Your first
>message was unclear, as we all assumed you were buying a different
>brand.

It's genuinely a counterfeit package. No way to know
if the contents are real or not. They could have bought
the sauce from HF in big containers and repackaged it to
make a markup.

>So why would they want to counterfeit Huy Fong? A: Because it
>tastes the best.

B: because it's the biggest name.
C: because they could get the HF at a deep discount and
make money by faking the bottles.
D: revenge.

I like answer D. It suggests a deeper mystery.

--Blair

Blair P Houghton wrote:

> It's genuinely a counterfeit package. No way to know if the contents
> are real or not. They could have bought the sauce from HF in big
> containers and repackaged it to make a markup.

You've mentioned that before. Do we have any evidence that HF actually
sells it in bulk?


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On Jul 1, 8:38 pm, Ken > wrote:
> On Jul 1, 4:10 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>
> > Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
> > >Blair P Houghton wrote:
>
> > A recap for yourself another van winkle fans:
>
> > The notice on the Huy Fong site is about 3 years old,
> > just about the vintage of my bottle, and depending on how
>
> Blair,
>
> If your bottle is three years old, I recommend buying a new bottle.
> I've found it oxidizes or something making it lose its punch. This
> will be especially noticed if you're using a particular amount from an
> old bottle, then open a new one. When you use the same amount, it
> definitely clears out the ol' sinuses.

Three years old? We go through one bottle in less than 3 months.

Don't know if this is still the case, but my old guitar player who
became an anthro professor in ABQ said when he moved there in the
mid-80s, Huy Fong was on all the tables of the best Mexican eateries
in town.

T.

On Jul 1, 7:16 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> BOBOBOnoBO® > wrote:
> >On Jun 30, 8:47 pm, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> >> It's entirely plausible that the only rooster sauce
> >> I've ever had has been the counterfeit rooster sauce...
>
> >> So what if I just don't like the genuine model?
>
> >We always called it, "Cock Sauce."
>
> That's something entirely different:
>
> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/4/4419768_8b76a7df83.jpg
>
First I've ever heard of that stuff, but "cock sauce" always referred
to Sriracha.
>
> --Blair

--Bryan

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:23:49 -0500, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:18:54 GMT, Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
>> In this case, "counterfeit" means someone's been
>> making fake Huy Fong bottles and filling them with
>> maybe non-Huy Fong sriracha that may not even be
>> sriracha.
>
>Here's what Huy Fong has to say about the issue. I didn't know
>they had made a formal announcement, or that the counterfeits were
>so genuine-looking.
>
>http://huyfongfoods.com/same/counterfeit.htm
>

hmm...maybe i have a bottle of authentic pre-war counterfeit sriracha.
i wonder if it's worth anything on e-bay?

your pal,
blake

Peter wrote:

> I buy the biggest jars of Sambal I can find, and go through a few a year.
> So tastey.


I'm very tempted to buy the institutional size of Sambal, several
local Asian markets here (Chicago) sell it. It's like two or so
gallons for ten bux. A friend and I are going to buy a jug of it to
split...

Just made potato salad, a big dab of Sambal gives it a real nice
kick...

--
Best
Greg

In article om>,
Gregory Morrow > wrote:

> Peter wrote:
>
> > I buy the biggest jars of Sambal I can find, and go through a few a year.
> > So tastey.
>
>
> I'm very tempted to buy the institutional size of Sambal, several
> local Asian markets here (Chicago) sell it. It's like two or so
> gallons for ten bux. A friend and I are going to buy a jug of it to
> split...
>
> Just made potato salad, a big dab of Sambal gives it a real nice
> kick...

http://www.huyfong.com/same/order2.htm

Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>Blair P Houghton wrote:
>
>> It's genuinely a counterfeit package. No way to know if the contents
>> are real or not. They could have bought the sauce from HF in big
>> containers and repackaged it to make a markup.
>
>You've mentioned that before. Do we have any evidence that HF actually
>sells it in bulk?

Everyone sells to someone in bulk.

--Blair
"Costco is proof of that."

In article > ,
Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

> Blinky the Shark > wrote:


> >You've mentioned that before. Do we have any evidence that HF actually
> >sells it in bulk?
>
> Everyone sells to someone in bulk.
>
> --Blair
> "Costco is proof of that."

I don't understand the Costco reference.

Dan Abel > wrote:
>In article > ,
> Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
>
>> >You've mentioned that before. Do we have any evidence that HF actually
>> >sells it in bulk?
>>
>> Everyone sells to someone in bulk.
>>
>> --Blair
>> "Costco is proof of that."
>
>I don't understand the Costco reference.

http://tinyurl.com/2qqms2

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>Blair P Houghton wrote:
>>
>>> It's genuinely a counterfeit package. No way to know if the
>>> contents are real or not. They could have bought the sauce
>>> from HF in big containers and repackaged it to make a markup.
>>
>>You've mentioned that before. Do we have any evidence that HF
>>actually sells it in bulk?
>
> Everyone sells to someone in bulk.

Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any evidence that HF
actually sells it "in big containers"?


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Steve Wertz wrote:

> On 4 Jul 2007 09:20:55 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any evidence
>> that HF actually sells it "in big containers"?
>
> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.
>
> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
> counterfeiter/repackager.

Well, if they're not selling it in bulk, then the claim (now
snipped) that someone may be buying it in bulk and repackaging it is
pretty much unbased.


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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:


> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.

http://www.huyfong.com/same/order2.htm

Maybe Greg would split an order with you?


> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
> counterfeiter/repackager.


I think that's the clue. John Doe is going to be quoted a price that
makes it uneconomical to repackage. A legitimate company that would use
this stuff as an ingredient might get a more reasonable price.

Dan Abel wrote:
>
> I think that's the clue. John Doe is going to be quoted a price that
> makes it uneconomical to repackage. A legitimate company that would use
> this stuff as an ingredient might get a more reasonable price.

Agreed. Even if you were buying the authentic stuff
in 55 gal. drums, the seller would already have made
his mark-up in the price you pay. He might even prefer
to have you do the bottling and deal with all those
small Mom-and-Pop Asian grocery stores and restaurants
that never pay their bills until you threaten to sue
them. That's how Coca-Cola was (is?) sold. They had
(have?) a network of independent regional bottlers
who buy the syrup and license the trademark from
Coca-Cola.

Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>Steve Wertz wrote:
>
>> On 4 Jul 2007 09:20:55 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>> Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any evidence
>>> that HF actually sells it "in big containers"?
>>
>> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
>> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.
>>
>> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
>> counterfeiter/repackager.

How many condiment producers' order forms include a
checkbox asking "are you a pirate?"

>Well, if they're not selling it in bulk, then the claim (now
>snipped) that someone may be buying it in bulk and repackaging it is
>pretty much unbased.

It wasn't a claim. It was one of a set of conjectured possibilities.

And there is money in it, or Huy Fong wouldn't bother
breaking down large quantities into small packages either.

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>Steve Wertz wrote:
>>
>>> On 4 Jul 2007 09:20:55 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any evidence
>>>> that HF actually sells it "in big containers"?
>>>
>>> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
>>> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.
>>>
>>> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
>>> counterfeiter/repackager.
>
> How many condiment producers' order forms include a
> checkbox asking "are you a pirate?"

Ask Wertz. I didn't write that.

>>Well, if they're not selling it in bulk, then the claim (now
>>snipped) that someone may be buying it in bulk and repackaging
>>it is pretty much unbased.
>
> It wasn't a claim. It was one of a set of conjectured
> possibilities.

By any name or description, it has been shown to be unbased.


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Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>Steve Wertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4 Jul 2007 09:20:55 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any evidence
>>>>> that HF actually sells it "in big containers"?
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
>>>> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.
>>>>
>>>> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
>>>> counterfeiter/repackager.
>>
>> How many condiment producers' order forms include a
>> checkbox asking "are you a pirate?"
>
>Ask Wertz. I didn't write that.

Count the >'s if you're not sure anyone can tell.

>>>Well, if they're not selling it in bulk, then the claim (now
>>>snipped) that someone may be buying it in bulk and repackaging
>>>it is pretty much unbased.
>>
>> It wasn't a claim. It was one of a set of conjectured
>> possibilities.
>
>By any name or description, it has been shown to be unbased.

But showing it to be unbased was pointless, as it
was never claimed to be based.

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>>
>>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>>Steve Wertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Jul 2007 09:20:55 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any
evidence
>>>>>> that HF actually sells it "in big containers"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
>>>>> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
>>>>> counterfeiter/repackager.
>>>
>>> How many condiment producers' order forms include a
>>> checkbox asking "are you a pirate?"
>>
>>Ask Wertz. I didn't write that.
>
> Count the >'s if you're not sure anyone can tell.

I know who said what. Try to figure out how usenet works.

>>>>Well, if they're not selling it in bulk, then the claim (now
>>>>snipped) that someone may be buying it in bulk and repackaging
>>>>it is pretty much unbased.
>>>
>>> It wasn't a claim. It was one of a set of conjectured
>>> possibilities.
>>
>>By any name or description, it has been shown to be unbased.
>
> But showing it to be unbased was pointless, as it
> was never claimed to be based.

It was suggested that that might be what had happened. It wasn't.
That makes the suggestion nonapplicable. That makes the
suggestion a bad one. That makes the suggestion false. Pick your
version. I'm done playing your semantics game.


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Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>>>Steve Wertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 Jul 2007 09:20:55 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any
>evidence
>>>>>>> that HF actually sells it "in big containers"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
>>>>>> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
>>>>>> counterfeiter/repackager.
>>>>
>>>> How many condiment producers' order forms include a
>>>> checkbox asking "are you a pirate?"
>>>
>>>Ask Wertz. I didn't write that.
>>
>> Count the >'s if you're not sure anyone can tell.
>
>I know who said what. Try to figure out how usenet works.

You have no idea the irony of that taunt.

>>>>>Well, if they're not selling it in bulk, then the claim (now
>>>>>snipped) that someone may be buying it in bulk and repackaging
>>>>>it is pretty much unbased.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't a claim. It was one of a set of conjectured
>>>> possibilities.
>>>
>>>By any name or description, it has been shown to be unbased.
>>
>> But showing it to be unbased was pointless, as it
>> was never claimed to be based.
>
>It was suggested that that might be what had happened. It wasn't.
>That makes the suggestion nonapplicable. That makes the
>suggestion a bad one. That makes the suggestion false. Pick your
>version. I'm done playing your semantics game.

False? You think maybe Huy Fong doesn't wholesale, yet you
have no proof. I never made a claim, but you're making
one here. I say you should prove it.

And realize that not everyone's so stupid as you are.

--Blair

Blair P Houghton wrote:
> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>>
>>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>>>>Steve Wertz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4 Jul 2007 09:20:55 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any
>>evidence
>>>>>>>> that HF actually sells it "in big containers"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
>>>>>>> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
>>>>>>> counterfeiter/repackager.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many condiment producers' order forms include a checkbox
>>>>> asking "are you a pirate?"
>>>>
>>>>Ask Wertz. I didn't write that.
>>>
>>> Count the >'s if you're not sure anyone can tell.
>>
>>I know who said what. Try to figure out how usenet works.
>
> You have no idea the irony of that taunt.
>
>>>>>>Well, if they're not selling it in bulk, then the claim (now
>>>>>>snipped) that someone may be buying it in bulk and repackaging it
>>>>>>is pretty much unbased.
>>>>>
>>>>> It wasn't a claim. It was one of a set of conjectured
>>>>> possibilities.
>>>>
>>>>By any name or description, it has been shown to be unbased.
>>>
>>> But showing it to be unbased was pointless, as it was never claimed
>>> to be based.
>>
>>It was suggested that that might be what had happened. It wasn't.
>>That makes the suggestion nonapplicable. That makes the suggestion a
>>bad one. That makes the suggestion false. Pick your version. I'm
>>done playing your semantics game.
>
> False? You think maybe Huy Fong doesn't wholesale, yet you have no
> proof. I never made a claim, but you're making one here. I say you
> should prove it.

The burden of proof is on he who claims they *do* ship in bulk.

> And realize that not everyone's so stupid as you are.

You must exceed me, there, if you think I'm going to try to prove a
negative. Nope. Wasn't born yesterday.

<plonk>


--
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Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>Blair P Houghton wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>>>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>>>>>Steve Wertz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4 Jul 2007 09:20:55 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay. I'll play, but not for long. Do we have any
>>>evidence
>>>>>>>>> that HF actually sells it "in big containers"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope. Their chili pastes are sold in 8-10# jugs (which are
>>>>>>>> pretty impressive!), but not their sriracha.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think they'd know if they were selling it to a
>>>>>>>> counterfeiter/repackager.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many condiment producers' order forms include a checkbox
>>>>>> asking "are you a pirate?"
>>>>>
>>>>>Ask Wertz. I didn't write that.
>>>>
>>>> Count the >'s if you're not sure anyone can tell.
>>>
>>>I know who said what. Try to figure out how usenet works.
>>
>> You have no idea the irony of that taunt.
>>
>>>>>>>Well, if they're not selling it in bulk, then the claim (now
>>>>>>>snipped) that someone may be buying it in bulk and repackaging it
>>>>>>>is pretty much unbased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It wasn't a claim. It was one of a set of conjectured
>>>>>> possibilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>By any name or description, it has been shown to be unbased.
>>>>
>>>> But showing it to be unbased was pointless, as it was never claimed
>>>> to be based.
>>>
>>>It was suggested that that might be what had happened. It wasn't.
>>>That makes the suggestion nonapplicable. That makes the suggestion a
>>>bad one. That makes the suggestion false. Pick your version. I'm
>>>done playing your semantics game.
>>
>> False? You think maybe Huy Fong doesn't wholesale, yet you have no
>> proof. I never made a claim, but you're making one here. I say you
>> should prove it.
>
>The burden of proof is on he who claims they *do* ship in bulk.

No, that wasn't a claim. You're the one making a claim.
The burden is all yours.

>> And realize that not everyone's so stupid as you are.
>
>You must exceed me, there, if you think I'm going to try to prove a
>negative. Nope. Wasn't born yesterday.

If you still think negatives can't be proved, then
you really are a juvenile.

><plonk>

I was there when that was invented, newbie.

--Blair