blake murphy wrote:
> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>>Now pepper, especially freshly ground black pepper i am addicted to.
>>
>
>
> isn't great that in the modern era, you don't have to be wealthy to
> afford pepper?
>
> your pal,
> blake



One day i ran out of black pepper corns, and i thought to myself, so
what, no big deal its just pepper, and i made no especial effort to rush
out and get any more. By the 3rd day i was actively craving it, food
did not taste right, cottage cheese was bland, chicken was tasteless and
eggs almost unpalatable.

I went out and got a few ounces for my pepper mill and the aroma alone
was almost ambrosial, suddenly food was fulfilling again.
--
JL

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:21:02 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>
>>>Now pepper, especially freshly ground black pepper i am addicted to.
>>>
>>
>>
>> isn't great that in the modern era, you don't have to be wealthy to
>> afford pepper?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>
>
>One day i ran out of black pepper corns, and i thought to myself, so
>what, no big deal its just pepper, and i made no especial effort to rush
>out and get any more. By the 3rd day i was actively craving it, food
>did not taste right, cottage cheese was bland, chicken was tasteless and
>eggs almost unpalatable.
>
>I went out and got a few ounces for my pepper mill and the aroma alone
>was almost ambrosial, suddenly food was fulfilling again.

i had a girlfriend for who i cooked quite often who was allergic to
onion. it was a pain in the butt to cook without it, but cooking
without pepper is almost unthinkable.

(she was quite sensitive to onion. i had to mark the cutting board so
one side was 'no onion.')

your pal,
blake

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> aem wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 3:51 pm, javawizard > wrote:
>>> The average American eats 20 to 30 times as much salt as is required
>>> for good health. [snip useless link]
>>
>> Blah, blah, blah. You think we'll click on a link to find out about
>> this revelation?
>>
> School is out, aem. Time to flood newsgroups with "revelations". And I
> agree with you, so many people use so little salt, everything is
> absolutely
> tasteless. But salt will kill you! Salt causes high blood pressure. No,
> it doesn't.
>

I hate it when people salt food at my table without tasting first. I purely
want to pinch their noses 'til they bleed.
Edrena

"The Joneses" > wrote in message
. net...
>
>>
>
> I hate it when people salt food at my table without tasting first. I
> purely want to pinch their noses 'til they bleed.
> Edrena
>

Why does it offend you so when people eat *their* food the way *they* like
it???? It's not like they salted *your* food.


Ms P

In article > ,
"The Joneses" > wrote:

> I hate it when people salt food at my table without tasting first. I purely
> want to pinch their noses 'til they bleed.
> Edrena

Now that breaks my salt encrusted heart. I love to salt my individually
cut pieces of a thick steak. I prefer having a salt shaker at my
personal disposal when eating any cow meat. Nobody can salt the top of a
piece of beef enough for me. I'm kind of that way with potatoes too. Oh,
and with chicken, I take a bite and salt the area I just bit a chunk out
of.
It's a personal flaw of mine. Season sublimely with anything. Leave the
main salting to me at the table. I doubt that I'm unique.
I don't like salt on fruit, so that's one thing I should score highly
on. Other than a tomato.

leo

--
<http://web0.greatbasin.net/~leo/>

Ms P wrote:
>
> "The Joneses" > wrote in message
> . net...
>>
>>>
>>
>> I hate it when people salt food at my table without tasting first. I
>> purely want to pinch their noses 'til they bleed.
>> Edrena
>>
>
> Why does it offend you so when people eat *their* food the way *they*
> like it???? It's not like they salted *your* food.
>
>
> Ms P

Because like Ms P I make the food as perfect as I can and if they don't
even taste it before salting I might as well have opened a can of
dogfood for them. I rarely put salt on the table nowadays. If someone
asks for it before tasting, I do not invite them back.

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"Giusi" > wrote in message
.. .
> Ms P wrote:
>>

>>
>> Why does it offend you so when people eat *their* food the way *they*
>> like it???? It's not like they salted *your* food.
>>
>>
>> Ms P
>
> Because like Ms P I make the food as perfect as I can and if they don't
> even taste it before salting I might as well have opened a can of dogfood
> for them. I rarely put salt on the table nowadays. If someone asks for
> it before tasting, I do not invite them back.


You make it perfect to *your* taste. Being offended because someone does
not share *your* taste is.. Well, maybe you should get therapy.


Ms P

Ms P wrote:
>
> "Giusi" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> Ms P wrote:
>>>
>
>>>
>>> Why does it offend you so when people eat *their* food the way *they*
>>> like it???? It's not like they salted *your* food.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> Because like Ms P I make the food as perfect as I can and if they
>> don't even taste it before salting I might as well have opened a can
>> of dogfood for them. I rarely put salt on the table nowadays. If
>> someone asks for it before tasting, I do not invite them back.
>
>
> You make it perfect to *your* taste. Being offended because someone
> does not share *your* taste is.. Well, maybe you should get therapy.
>
>
> Ms P

If they don't taste first, there's no possibility that they'll know
whether it's perfect or not.
1) I have had therapy
2) they don't have to eat at my house, do they?
3) I find your attitude a bit aggressive based on the therapy I have had.

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Giusi wrote:

> Ms P wrote:
> >
> >"The Joneses" > wrote in message
> . net...
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I hate it when people salt food at my table without tasting
> > > first. I purely want to pinch their noses 'til they bleed.
> > > Edrena
> > >
> >
> > Why does it offend you so when people eat their food the way they
> > like it???? It's not like they salted your food.

> Because like Ms P I make the food as perfect as I can and if they
> don't even taste it before salting I might as well have opened a can
> of dogfood for them. I rarely put salt on the table nowadays. If
> someone asks for it before tasting, I do not invite them back.

Sorry, but that's dumb. People have different tolerance levels of salt.
Those that habitually use a lot KNOW that you didn't make it their
taste because most others wouldn't eat it.

As Ms P, why do you care? It's not like they salted and then refused to
eat it because it was too salty. Obviously, they were right in salting
it. So you didn't make it to their taste. They saved time and a wasted
taste of food that they wouldn't like.

Stop making hosting about YOU. Make it about your guests and you'll
have a better time.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Default User said...

> Stop making hosting about YOU. Make it about your guests and you'll
> have a better time.


True.

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> Giusi wrote:
>
>> Ms P wrote:
>> >
>> >"The Joneses" > wrote in message
>> . net...
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I hate it when people salt food at my table without tasting
>> > > first. I purely want to pinch their noses 'til they bleed.
>> > > Edrena
>> > >
>> >
>> > Why does it offend you so when people eat their food the way they
>> > like it???? It's not like they salted your food.
>
>> Because like Ms P I make the food as perfect as I can and if they
>> don't even taste it before salting I might as well have opened a can
>> of dogfood for them. I rarely put salt on the table nowadays. If
>> someone asks for it before tasting, I do not invite them back.
>
> Sorry, but that's dumb. People have different tolerance levels of salt.
> Those that habitually use a lot KNOW that you didn't make it their
> taste because most others wouldn't eat it.
>
> As Ms P, why do you care? It's not like they salted and then refused to
> eat it because it was too salty. Obviously, they were right in salting
> it. So you didn't make it to their taste. They saved time and a wasted
> taste of food that they wouldn't like.
>
> Stop making hosting about YOU. Make it about your guests and you'll
> have a better time.
>
>
>
>
> Brian


You seem to be a little confused. *I'm* the one that wanted to know why
someone else would be offended if someone put salt on their food. Giusi and
Edrena are the ones that are all offended because someone salted their
perfectly prepared food.

I salt. Frequently before I taste. Because I like salt on things. I
already know other people don't salt as much as I like.

I lived with someone that was personally offended if you didn't like
something exactly the way he did. He was personally offended if you liked
something he didn't. It got real old real fast. I find it extremely
controling behavior and it offends me when people get their knickers in a
twist because somebody else likes salt or ketchup. Or well done steaks.

I've asked people *why* before and there has yet to be one person give a
satisfactory answer. They can only give excuses. Almost without exception
their answer is "because it's better the way *I* like it." They may not say
it exactly like that but it comes down to that.

Ms P

"Giusi" > wrote in message
.. .
> Ms P wrote:
>>
>>
>> You make it perfect to *your* taste. Being offended because someone does
>> not share *your* taste is.. Well, maybe you should get therapy.
>>
>>
>> Ms P
>
> If they don't taste first, there's no possibility that they'll know
> whether it's perfect or not.
> 1) I have had therapy
> 2) they don't have to eat at my house, do they?
> 3) I find your attitude a bit aggressive based on the therapy I have had.


I find your attitude extremely controlling if you're going to demand that
guests have to eat *their* food exactly the same way you do.

It is possible to know before tasting that something needs more salt. It's
called personal taste an experience.

Ms P

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:25:28 -0500, "Ms P" >
wrote:

>
>"Default User" > wrote in message
...
>> Giusi wrote:
>>
>>> Ms P wrote:
>>> >
>>> >"The Joneses" > wrote in message
>>> . net...
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I hate it when people salt food at my table without tasting
>>> > > first. I purely want to pinch their noses 'til they bleed.
>>> > > Edrena
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > Why does it offend you so when people eat their food the way they
>>> > like it???? It's not like they salted your food.
>>
>>> Because like Ms P I make the food as perfect as I can and if they
>>> don't even taste it before salting I might as well have opened a can
>>> of dogfood for them. I rarely put salt on the table nowadays. If
>>> someone asks for it before tasting, I do not invite them back.
>>
>> Sorry, but that's dumb. People have different tolerance levels of salt.
>> Those that habitually use a lot KNOW that you didn't make it their
>> taste because most others wouldn't eat it.
>>
>> As Ms P, why do you care? It's not like they salted and then refused to
>> eat it because it was too salty. Obviously, they were right in salting
>> it. So you didn't make it to their taste. They saved time and a wasted
>> taste of food that they wouldn't like.
>>
>> Stop making hosting about YOU. Make it about your guests and you'll
>> have a better time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian
>
>
>You seem to be a little confused. *I'm* the one that wanted to know why
>someone else would be offended if someone put salt on their food. Giusi and
>Edrena are the ones that are all offended because someone salted their
>perfectly prepared food.
>
>I salt. Frequently before I taste. Because I like salt on things. I
>already know other people don't salt as much as I like.
>
>I lived with someone that was personally offended if you didn't like
>something exactly the way he did. He was personally offended if you liked
>something he didn't. It got real old real fast. I find it extremely
>controling behavior and it offends me when people get their knickers in a
>twist because somebody else likes salt or ketchup. Or well done steaks.
>
>I've asked people *why* before and there has yet to be one person give a
>satisfactory answer. They can only give excuses. Almost without exception
>their answer is "because it's better the way *I* like it." They may not say
>it exactly like that but it comes down to that.
>
>Ms P

well, it's true that certain items (say, cantaloupe with salt and
pepper) taste better one way than the other. but it's pointless to
argue about it, and can become offensive. i just say to myself,
'o.k., be like that,' and get on with it.

your pal,
blake

Ms P wrote:

>
> "Default User" > wrote in message
> ...

> > As Ms P, why do you care? It's not like they salted and then
> > refused to eat it because it was too salty. Obviously, they were
> > right in salting it. So you didn't make it to their taste. They
> > saved time and a wasted taste of food that they wouldn't like.

> You seem to be a little confused. I'm the one that wanted to know
> why someone else would be offended if someone put salt on their food.

Sorry, that was a typo on my part. I left out an important word. The
sentence should have read, "As Ms P SAID, why do you care?"

> Giusi and Edrena are the ones that are all offended because someone
> salted their perfectly prepared food.

I know, and I was on your side, really.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:28:54 -0500, "Ms P" >
wrote:

>
>"Giusi" > wrote in message
. ..
>> Ms P wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You make it perfect to *your* taste. Being offended because someone does
>>> not share *your* taste is.. Well, maybe you should get therapy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> If they don't taste first, there's no possibility that they'll know
>> whether it's perfect or not.
>> 1) I have had therapy
>> 2) they don't have to eat at my house, do they?
>> 3) I find your attitude a bit aggressive based on the therapy I have had.
>
>
>I find your attitude extremely controlling if you're going to demand that
>guests have to eat *their* food exactly the same way you do.
>
>It is possible to know before tasting that something needs more salt. It's
>called personal taste an experience.
>
>Ms P

we've had this discussion here before. while a case can be made for
tasting before salting, if *every single time* a certain item needs
more salt, it becomes tiresome to test it all the time.

it also depends on who is doing the cooking. in some high-tone
joints, it might be well to see if the cook knows what he's doing
first. but i wouldn't be concerned about his feelings if it turned
out the *pommes frites* needed a shake or two.

(i still think the tale of the i.b.m. interviewer or whoever it was
rejected all candidates who salted before tasting was an idiot. what
if they smoked cigarettes or something?) (yes, i know cigarette
smokers are currently to be reviled under all circumstances, but
still.)

your pal,
blake

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> Ms P wrote:
>
>>

>> You seem to be a little confused. I'm the one that wanted to know
>> why someone else would be offended if someone put salt on their food.
>
> Sorry, that was a typo on my part. I left out an important word. The
> sentence should have read, "As Ms P SAID, why do you care?"
>
>> Giusi and Edrena are the ones that are all offended because someone
>> salted their perfectly prepared food.
>
> I know, and I was on your side, really.
>
>
>
>
> Brian


Ah, okay. Forgiven.

They're beating some poor guy up now because he likes well done steaks. So
does my oldest son. <shrug> It's his steak not mine.

Hubby eats ketchup on about every thing. It's his food not mine.

Ms P

blake murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:28:54 -0500, "Ms P" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Giusi" > wrote in message
>> .. .

>>> If they don't taste first, there's no possibility that they'll know
>>> whether it's perfect or not.

>> I find your attitude extremely controlling if you're going to demand that
>> guests have to eat *their* food exactly the same way you do.
>>
>> It is possible to know before tasting that something needs more salt. It's
>> called personal taste an experience.
>>
>> Ms P

If your personal experience is that even when eating an ethnic dish you
have never tried before it always needs salt, I submit you need to eat
in a better class of eating places.
>
> we've had this discussion here before. while a case can be made for
> tasting before salting, if *every single time* a certain item needs
> more salt, it becomes tiresome to test it all the time.
>
> it also depends on who is doing the cooking. in some high-tone
> joints, it might be well to see if the cook knows what he's doing
> first. but i wouldn't be concerned about his feelings if it turned

> your pal,
> blake

Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a burger/steak, but
carefully prepared dishes that have required a certain amount of effort
and expertise. With plain foods I do think salting is very personal and
can be altered at the table freely. With a soufflé or a braised goose
or a delicate lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better taste first at my
table. Heavily salting a complicated dish can make it resemble Dinty
Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to eat, then eat it
someplace else, because that is not how I cook for guests.

A good example is the balancing of sour with salt. Salt really is
needed to balance things that include lots of lemon. Oversalt and the
lemon is lost.

I was recently served a plate of pasta as a first course in a restaurant
that was so salty it burned my tongue. I canceled the rest of my order,
because who could taste meat and vegetables after that? If the owner
weren't a friend I'd probably shy away from the restaurant, but since he
is and he tasted it, knowing that I'm not that fussy at cheap places, he
made a face and suggested someone had slipped with the salt. Accidents
happen. Even in my kitchen. Accidents get thrown out here.

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"Giusi" > wrote in message
.. .
> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:28:54 -0500, "Ms P" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Giusi" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>
>>>> If they don't taste first, there's no possibility that they'll know
>>>> whether it's perfect or not.
>
>>> I find your attitude extremely controlling if you're going to demand
>>> that guests have to eat *their* food exactly the same way you do.
>>>
>>> It is possible to know before tasting that something needs more salt.
>>> It's called personal taste an experience.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>
> If your personal experience is that even when eating an ethnic dish you
> have never tried before it always needs salt, I submit you need to eat in
> a better class of eating places.
>>
>> we've had this discussion here before. while a case can be made for
>> tasting before salting, if *every single time* a certain item needs
>> more salt, it becomes tiresome to test it all the time. it also depends
>> on who is doing the cooking. in some high-tone
>> joints, it might be well to see if the cook knows what he's doing
>> first. but i wouldn't be concerned about his feelings if it turned
>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a burger/steak, but
> carefully prepared dishes that have required a certain amount of effort
> and expertise. With plain foods I do think salting is very personal and
> can be altered at the table freely. With a soufflé or a braised goose or
> a delicate lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better taste first at my
> table. Heavily salting a complicated dish can make it resemble Dinty
> Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to eat, then eat it
> someplace else, because that is not how I cook for guests.
>
> A good example is the balancing of sour with salt. Salt really is needed
> to balance things that include lots of lemon. Oversalt and the lemon is
> lost.
>
> I was recently served a plate of pasta as a first course in a restaurant
> that was so salty it burned my tongue. I canceled the rest of my order,
> because who could taste meat and vegetables after that? If the owner
> weren't a friend I'd probably shy away from the restaurant, but since he
> is and he tasted it, knowing that I'm not that fussy at cheap places, he
> made a face and suggested someone had slipped with the salt. Accidents
> happen. Even in my kitchen. Accidents get thrown out here.
>
And that's exactly what I meant.
Edrena

The Joneses wrote:
> "Giusi" > wrote in message
he
>> made a face and suggested someone had slipped with the salt. Accidents
>> happen. Even in my kitchen. Accidents get thrown out here.
>>
> And that's exactly what I meant.
> Edrena
>
>
You would probably happily eat at my table.

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Giusi wrote:


> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a burger/steak,
> but carefully prepared dishes that have required a certain amount of
> effort and expertise. With plain foods I do think salting is very
> personal and can be altered at the table freely. With a soufflé or a
> braised goose or a delicate lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better
> taste first at my table. Heavily salting a complicated dish can make
> it resemble Dinty Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to
> eat, then eat it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for
> guests.

Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be offended. If
the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them salt it.

People like you should never host anything.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> Giusi wrote:
>
>
>> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a burger/steak,
>> but carefully prepared dishes that have required a certain amount of
>> effort and expertise. With plain foods I do think salting is very
>> personal and can be altered at the table freely. With a soufflé or a
>> braised goose or a delicate lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better
>> taste first at my table. Heavily salting a complicated dish can make
>> it resemble Dinty Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to
>> eat, then eat it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for
>> guests.
>
> Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be offended. If
> the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them salt it.
>
> People like you should never host anything.
>
>
>
>
> Brian


LOL, I thought it but I wasn't going to say it. She'd probably fall over in
a dead faint if my hubby dumped ketchup all over her perfectly cooked food.
I guess we'll stay home and eat my perfectly cooked food the way we like it.
I'll salt, he'll ketchup.


Ms P

"Giusi" > wrote in message
.. .
> The Joneses wrote:
>> "Giusi" > wrote in message
> he
>>> made a face and suggested someone had slipped with the salt. Accidents
>>> happen. Even in my kitchen. Accidents get thrown out here.
>>>
>> And that's exactly what I meant.
>> Edrena
>>
>>
> You would probably happily eat at my table.
>
Thank you kindly, that lemon pasta sounded wonderful. I can't imagine it
would be improved with ketchup, but everyone's taste is different. I think
the salting business depends a lot on what is served as you said. I like new
flavors and well seasoned food, so I nearly always take a bite first before
waving the s&p around. And the chile sauce (however you perceive it).
Edrena

Default User wrote:
> Giusi wrote:
>
>
>> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a burger/steak,
>> but carefully prepared dishes that have required a certain amount of
>> effort and expertise. With plain foods I do think salting is very
>> personal and can be altered at the table freely. With a soufflé or a
>> braised goose or a delicate lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better
>> taste first at my table. Heavily salting a complicated dish can make
>> it resemble Dinty Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to
>> eat, then eat it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for
>> guests.
>
> Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be offended. If
> the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them salt it.
>
> People like you should never host anything.

and YOU are talking cr*p! Might I suggets you never cook anything that
matters so that whatever anyone pours on to your food, they won't notice the
difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ophelia wrote:
> Default User wrote:
>> Giusi wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a burger/steak,
>>> but carefully prepared dishes that have required a certain amount of
>>> effort and expertise. With plain foods I do think salting is very
>>> personal and can be altered at the table freely. With a soufflé or a
>>> braised goose or a delicate lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better
>>> taste first at my table. Heavily salting a complicated dish can make
>>> it resemble Dinty Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to
>>> eat, then eat it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for
>>> guests.
>> Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be offended. If
>> the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them salt it.
>>
>> People like you should never host anything.
>
> and YOU are talking cr*p! Might I suggets you never cook anything that
> matters so that whatever anyone pours on to your food, they won't notice the
> difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
Thanks Om. I was beginning to feel I'd fallen into the burgers and hash
bunch.

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Giusi wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> Default User wrote:
>>> Giusi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a
>>>> burger/steak, but carefully prepared dishes that have required a
>>>> certain amount of effort and expertise. With plain foods I do
>>>> think salting is very personal and can be altered at the table
>>>> freely. With a soufflé or a braised goose or a delicate
>>>> lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better taste first at my table.
>>>> Heavily salting a complicated dish can make it resemble Dinty
>>>> Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to eat, then eat
>>>> it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for guests.
>>> Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be offended.
>>> If the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them salt it.
>>>
>>> People like you should never host anything.
>>
>> and YOU are talking cr*p! Might I suggets you never cook anything
>> that matters so that whatever anyone pours on to your food, they
>> won't notice the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
> Thanks Om. I was beginning to feel I'd fallen into the burgers and
> hash bunch.

Om??? this is me Judith))

Ophelia wrote:
> Giusi wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> Default User wrote:
>>>> Giusi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a
>>>>> burger/steak, but carefully prepared dishes that have required a
>>>>> certain amount of effort and expertise. With plain foods I do
>>>>> think salting is very personal and can be altered at the table
>>>>> freely. With a soufflé or a braised goose or a delicate
>>>>> lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better taste first at my table.
>>>>> Heavily salting a complicated dish can make it resemble Dinty
>>>>> Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to eat, then eat
>>>>> it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for guests.
>>>> Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be offended.
>>>> If the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them salt it.
>>>>
>>>> People like you should never host anything.
>>> and YOU are talking cr*p! Might I suggets you never cook anything
>>> that matters so that whatever anyone pours on to your food, they
>>> won't notice the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks Om. I was beginning to feel I'd fallen into the burgers and
>> hash bunch.
>
> Om??? this is me Judith))
>
>
I added an M to O!

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Ophelia wrote:

> Default User wrote:
> > Giusi wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a
> > > burger/steak, but carefully prepared dishes that have required a
> > > certain amount of effort and expertise. With plain foods I do
> > > think salting is very personal and can be altered at the table
> > > freely. With a souffli or a braised goose or a delicate
> > > lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better taste first at my table.
> > > Heavily salting a complicated dish can make it resemble Dinty
> > > Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to eat, then eat
> > > it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for guests.
> >
> > Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be offended.
> > If the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them salt it.
> >
> > People like you should never host anything.
>
> and YOU are talking cr*p! Might I suggets you never cook anything
> that matters so that whatever anyone pours on to your food, they
> won't notice the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nonsense. Why should I worry about whether guests want to salt food?
That's just the dumbest thing. I fix food, and hope like hell they
enjoy it. If it means they want ketchup on a burger (which I find
nasty), no skin off my nose. I'll go get the ketchup for them.

When hosting is more about showing off than the comfort and pleasure of
the guests, get out of the game.

Seriously. People who spend their time finding reasons to be insulted
by guest behaving in a perfectly normal fashion, have no business
hosting.



Brian

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won't shut up.
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Giusi wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:

> > and YOU are talking cr*p! Might I suggets you never cook anything
> > that matters so that whatever anyone pours on to your food, they
> > won't notice the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Thanks Om. I was beginning to feel I'd fallen into the burgers and
> hash bunch.

Oh, again, BULLSHIT. You have delusions of grandeur. You think you're
putting some sort of haute cuisine that no guest better DARE think of
altering because it's perfect, and any change will be some huge insult.

Get. Over. Yourself.



Brian

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won't shut up.
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Default User wrote:

>
> Oh, again, BULLSHIT. You have delusions of grandeur. You think you're
> putting some sort of haute cuisine that no guest better DARE think of
> altering because it's perfect, and any change will be some huge insult.
>
> Get. Over. Yourself.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
Get over yourself, feller. All I said was effing taste it first. That
is not a lot to ask.

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Giusi wrote:

> Default User wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh, again, BULLSHIT. You have delusions of grandeur. You think
> > you're putting some sort of haute cuisine that no guest better DARE
> > think of altering because it's perfect, and any change will be some
> > huge insult.
> >
> > Get. Over. Yourself.

> Get over yourself, feller. All I said was effing taste it first.

Why? Because it avoids some imaginary insult to your culinary efforts.
Get over yourself.

> That is not a lot to ask.

Sure it is. You want your guest to take a taste that they know they
won't enjoy, just to sooth your ruffled feathers. Get over yourself.

You are NOT more important than your guests. If you think you are, then
you shouldn't be hosting. Get over yourself.



Brian

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won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Ms P wrote:
>
> "Default User" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Giusi wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a burger/steak,
>>> but carefully prepared dishes that have required a certain amount of
>>> effort and expertise. With plain foods I do think salting is very
>>> personal and can be altered at the table freely. With a soufflé or a
>>> braised goose or a delicate lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better
>>> taste first at my table. Heavily salting a complicated dish can make
>>> it resemble Dinty Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to
>>> eat, then eat it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for
>>> guests.
>>
>>
>> Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be offended. If
>> the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them salt it.
>>
>> People like you should never host anything.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian
>
>
>
> LOL, I thought it but I wasn't going to say it. She'd probably fall
> over in a dead faint if my hubby dumped ketchup all over her perfectly
> cooked food. I guess we'll stay home and eat my perfectly cooked food
> the way we like it. I'll salt, he'll ketchup.
>
>
> Ms P

Often times its just habit, i made a cheese omelette for the "elderly
relative" and I after this mornings earth quake, first thing she did was
reach for the ketchup, it was eggs after all.

I asked her to try a bite first and she admitted it was very good and
did not need any ketchup.
--
JL

Default User wrote:
> Get. Over. Yourself.
>
>
>
> Brian
>

People who rely on the phrase "get. over. yourself." (shades of the
devil wears Prada!) should take their own advise.
--
JL

On Jul 11, 8:38 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
>
> When I saw this I thought of the jingle, "I feel likeChickenTonight,ChickenTonight."
>
>
>
> "Don't cooktonight, callChickenDelight".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4P484V11Jg&NR=1

--Bryan

On Jul 11, 3:23 pm, (Phil Evans) wrote:
> To be honest there does appear to be 2 camps on the adding salt to
> water for increasing boiling temperature.
>
> Have been doing some surfing and some think its critical others
> pooh hoo it.

The amount that salt increases the boiling temperature is
insignificant.

I do, however, like pasta boiled in salted water.

--Bryan

Default User wrote:

> Sure it is. You want your guest to take a taste that they know they
> won't enjoy, just to sooth your ruffled feathers. Get over yourself.
>
> You are NOT more important than your guests. If you think you are, then
> you shouldn't be hosting. Get over yourself.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
I pity you when you travel and find that there is NO salt shaker on most
restaurant tables in the rest of the world. Unless you have ordered
salad, there will be none brought to you unless you flag someone down
and ask for it in Italy. It simply isn't a problem I see here. Great
that I live here, no?

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Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On Jul 11, 3:23 pm, (Phil Evans) wrote:
>> To be honest there does appear to be 2 camps on the adding salt to
>> water for increasing boiling temperature.
>>
>> Have been doing some surfing and some think its critical others
>> pooh hoo it.
>
> The amount that salt increases the boiling temperature is
> insignificant.
>
> I do, however, like pasta boiled in salted water.
>
> --Bryan
>
Me too. I would only skip it if I'd found the sauce too salty, as
occasionally those made with anchovies seem.

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Giusi wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> Giusi wrote:
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>> Default User wrote:
>>>>> Giusi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, I am not talking about a pile of green beans or a
>>>>>> burger/steak, but carefully prepared dishes that have required a
>>>>>> certain amount of effort and expertise. With plain foods I do
>>>>>> think salting is very personal and can be altered at the table
>>>>>> freely. With a soufflé or a braised goose or a delicate
>>>>>> lemon/cream/parmesan sauce, you'd better taste first at my table.
>>>>>> Heavily salting a complicated dish can make it resemble Dinty
>>>>>> Moore corned beef hash. If that's what you like to eat, then eat
>>>>>> it someplace else, because that is not how I cook for guests.
>>>>> Complete bullshit. You are just looking for reasons to be
>>>>> offended. If the guest enjoys it with more salt, then let them
>>>>> salt it. People like you should never host anything.
>>>> and YOU are talking cr*p! Might I suggets you never cook anything
>>>> that matters so that whatever anyone pours on to your food, they
>>>> won't notice the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks Om. I was beginning to feel I'd fallen into the burgers and
>>> hash bunch.
>>
>> Om??? this is me Judith))
>>
>>
> I added an M to O!

<G> I see. Actually I don't mind you mistaking me for Om)