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Jack Schmidling wrote:
> What has happened to jalapeno peppers?
>
> The ones in the supermarket more often than not taste like bell peppers.
> I have noticed this over the past few years and it seems to be getting
> worse with time. We used to get a dudd now and then but now we rarely
> find a hot one.
>
> The solution of course, is to grow them ourselves. Well guess what?
>
> The ones from the garden shops have the same problem so we started
> growing our own from seed. Well, guess what again?
>
> This year's jalapenos grown from seeds advertised as hot are perfectly
> sweet. We sampled three different plants from different areas of the
> garden and they are all the same.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> js
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I've said over the past few years that the jalapeños taste like
concentrated Bell peppers.

My friend agrees

I like them for substituting green peppers for taste, a little goes a
long way in cooking but
it's missing something. The jalapeño taste.

I believe it is a conspiracy.

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rachael simpson wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> rachael simpson wrote:
>>> Billy Rose wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> Nick Cramer > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Jack Schmidling wrote:
>>>>>>> What has happened to jalapeno peppers?
>>>>>>> [ . . . ]
>>>>> Grow Serranos or Thia Piguinos. If ya want some of our Thais, eat my SPAM
>>>>> to e-mail me.
>>>> But it's not just the heat. There is a freshness, greenness, a
>>>> delicateness to roasted ja-lap-pin-nos that you don't get from other
>>>> peppers. Ideally you have at least 15 seconds to appreciate them before
>>>> you realize that something is terribly wrong. They ain't hot unless they
>>>> make me hick-ups.
>>> what's the new hot pepper that the chinese (i think...) developed that's
>>> suppose to be 10 times hotter than any other pepper? i keep hearing
>>> about it, but never catch the name.

>>
>> Hasn't appeared here, yet...the hottest shown is Indian.
>>
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale
>>
>> How recent is development of the one you address?
>>

> I first heard about it about a month ago. It was on a radio news show.


Can't find anything on it with a Google search of news items. Perhaps
someone with better google-fu than I can come up with something.

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Steve Wertz wrote:
> On 19 Jul 2007 02:37:24 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
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>> rachael simpson wrote:
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hasn't appeared here, yet...the hottest shown is Indian.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale
>>>>
>>>> How recent is development of the one you address?
>>>>
>>> I first heard about it about a month ago. It was on a radio news
>>> show.

>>
>> Can't find anything on it with a Google search of news items.
>> Perhaps someone with better google-fu than I can come up with
>> something.

>
> Search for "dorset naga" which is really the jolikia. The former
> received much more publicity in the last year than the original.


Ah! I'd never heard of "dorset naga".

It gets fairly confusing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_Jolokia_pepper

"The Indians claim it is a C. frutescens,[1] but the derived cultivar
Dorset Naga was assessed as a C. chinense."

That's the only ref to China in the article. It seem to be Indian in
origin, regardless.


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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:19:35 -0600, Jack Schmidling >
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wrote:
>
>> I've said over the past few years that the jalapeños taste like
>> concentrated Bell peppers.

>
>> I believe it is a conspiracy.

>
>Thank you. I have been reading this thread (which I started) for a week
>and tasting jalapenos from the garden and the supermarket.
>
>They are everything that has been said about them.... about the nicest
>pepper on earth but they are not hot anymore.
>
>They, like everything else, have been dumbed down for the mushbrained
>masses.
>
>If I come across a hot one, I will save the seeds and try to re-culture
>them.
>
>We have been screwed again by those who "know" what we should like....
>Wonder bread, Bud, chicken breast and now sweet jalapenos
>

Jack, did the TAM jalapeno come up in the discussion? I've read only
about half the posts in this thread and haven't noticed it's being
mentioned. An agricultural scientist at Texas A&M developed a mild
jalapeno for the salsa industry, which wanted to market mild versions
of salsa to us gringos. I'm on record that this is rather like
developing a strain of slow race horses or tall dachshunds, but few
with power ever listen to me. Anyhow, I'm wondering if your jalapenos
might not be TAM hybrids.

Me, I switched to serranos.
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Steve Wertz wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2007 02:37:24 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>> rachael simpson wrote:
>>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hasn't appeared here, yet...the hottest shown is Indian.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale
>>>>>
>>>>> How recent is development of the one you address?
>>>>>
>>>> I first heard about it about a month ago. It was on a radio news
>>>> show.
>>> Can't find anything on it with a Google search of news items.
>>> Perhaps someone with better google-fu than I can come up with
>>> something.

>> Search for "dorset naga" which is really the jolikia. The former
>> received much more publicity in the last year than the original.

>
> Ah! I'd never heard of "dorset naga".
>
> It gets fairly confusing.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_Jolokia_pepper
>
> "The Indians claim it is a C. frutescens,[1] but the derived cultivar
> Dorset Naga was assessed as a C. chinense."
>
> That's the only ref to China in the article. It seem to be Indian in
> origin, regardless.
>
>

thanks, maybe that's why i couldn't figure out what the name was suppose
to be

rae
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