We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
Any other ideas?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:46:36 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> wrote:

>We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
>juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
>been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
>didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
>opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
>there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
>hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
>various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
>I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
>Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
>the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
>Any other ideas?

Open a box of baking soda and leave it in the fridge. Replace it once
in a while. My mother always did this.

Chatty Cathy said...

> We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
> there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
> hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
> various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
> I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
> Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
> Any other ideas?


Cathy,

Amazing, those "run 'n' hide" food BUMS!!! Very clever of them!

I also have "lost 'n' found" disgusting stuff in the fridge.

A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep one
in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may need to
let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it up a little
every so often).

Maybe or maybe not. I dunno. I'm just The BUM!!! that forgets stuff like
that.

Andy

Andy wrote:

>
> Amazing, those "run 'n' hide" food BUMS!!! Very clever of them!
>
> I also have "lost 'n' found" disgusting stuff in the fridge.
>
> A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep one
> in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may need to
> let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it up a little
> every so often).

Come to think of it I should have thought about the baking soda thing -
and I know I have some in the cupboard. I just had "another look" to
make sure I didn't miss any of the gunk, but its appears to be "clean".
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy - going to dig out the baking soda...

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
...
> We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold, there
> was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge - hiding
> under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with various
> "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but I can
> still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what? Do I
> empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in the
> other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or... Any
> other ideas?
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have absorbed a
bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes seem to absorb oils
from foods you store in them. I find the best way to clean these is with the
soft side of a scrub sponge and a shot of undiluted dish detergent.
Obviously, it'll be a chore to wipe off the soap from the inside of the
fridge (compared to rinsing containers over the sink), but it should remove
any fat residue. Disinfectants aren't designed for that.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

>
> Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have absorbed a
> bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes seem to absorb oils
> from foods you store in them. I find the best way to clean these is with the
> soft side of a scrub sponge and a shot of undiluted dish detergent.
> Obviously, it'll be a chore to wipe off the soap from the inside of the
> fridge (compared to rinsing containers over the sink), but it should remove
> any fat residue. Disinfectants aren't designed for that.
>
>
I should have mentioned that this stuff was some sort of "disinfectant
cleaner" - supposed to remove "greasy stuff". But I am gonna try the
baking soda - and see if that helps. If not, I'll just have to bite the
bullet, give it another going-over - and then switch it off and let it
"air" for a few days. Sigh.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

My computer needs to be able to browse the web, transfer email, and
irritate the newsgroups comfortably
- Mark Adams

On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:

> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...

If you used a bleach solution to clean, that should do it. Make sure
you clean the evaporation pan under the fridge as some milk may have
dripped down.

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
>
>> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
>
> If you used a bleach solution to clean, that should do it. Make sure
> you clean the evaporation pan under the fridge as some milk may have
> dripped down.

Dang - I am out of baking soda - but I do have liquid bleach... and yes,
you are right nb - I never thought to look under the damn fridge...
there may be some there too. Thanks.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Chatty Cathy said...

> Andy wrote:
>
>>
>> Amazing, those "run 'n' hide" food BUMS!!! Very clever of them!
>>
>> I also have "lost 'n' found" disgusting stuff in the fridge.
>>
>> A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep
>> one in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may
>> need to let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it
>> up a little every so often).
>
> Come to think of it I should have thought about the baking soda thing -
> and I know I have some in the cupboard. I just had "another look" to
> make sure I didn't miss any of the gunk, but its appears to be "clean".


Good. Just be careful, those boxes of baking soda have also been known to
"run 'n' hide" themselves.

Andy
What I can't see can't hurt me but, don't it STINK?!!
--Famous Last Words #2093

Andy wrote:

> Good. Just be careful, those boxes of baking soda have also been known to
> "run 'n' hide" themselves.

This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
so I don't use it that often...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Chatty Cathy > wrote in
:

> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>
>> Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have
>> absorbed a bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes
>> seem to absorb oils from foods you store in them. I find the best way
>> to clean these is with the soft side of a scrub sponge and a shot of
>> undiluted dish detergent. Obviously, it'll be a chore to wipe off the
>> soap from the inside of the fridge (compared to rinsing containers
>> over the sink), but it should remove any fat residue. Disinfectants
>> aren't designed for that.
>>
>>
> I should have mentioned that this stuff was some sort of "disinfectant
> cleaner" - supposed to remove "greasy stuff". But I am gonna try the
> baking soda - and see if that helps. If not, I'll just have to bite
> the bullet, give it another going-over - and then switch it off and
> let it "air" for a few days. Sigh.
>



The baking soda will fix it.

I had some prawns I put in the fridge and forgot about them, and went
away for about 2 days.

After trying the washing thing, and disinfectants, and hot water with
vanilla essence in it..... I stuck a 500g packet of baking soda in there
with the top ripped off.

2 days later, no smell at all.

Good shit that stuff!!

Great for tenderizing meat for stir frys......... great for removing oil
stains of the concrete in the driveway!!
Also good for taking the crystal acid build-up off your battery
terminals!!

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell

notbob wrote:
> On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
>
>> This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
>> so I don't use it that often...
>
> As I understand it, that whole baking soda thing is just a myth to
> sell lots of baking soda. If your fridge is clean, you don't need it.

Well, I can't find the baking soda anyway, so I'll try the bleach
solution. I found that

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:

> This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
> so I don't use it that often...

As I understand it, that whole baking soda thing is just a myth to
sell lots of baking soda. If your fridge is clean, you don't need it.

nb

Chatty Cathy said...

> Andy wrote:
>
>> Good. Just be careful, those boxes of baking soda have also been known to
>> "run 'n' hide" themselves.
>
> This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
> so I don't use it that often...


It's for cooking?!? Will wonders never cease! )

Andy

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
>>
>>> This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
>>> so I don't use it that often...
>>
>> As I understand it, that whole baking soda thing is just a myth to
>> sell lots of baking soda. If your fridge is clean, you don't need it.
>
> Well, I can't find the baking soda anyway, so I'll try the bleach
> solution. I found that
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


Stick a half head of unwrapped cabbage in there for a few days. That'll take
care of the milk smell.

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote

> Come to think of it I should have thought about the baking soda thing -
> and I know I have some in the cupboard. I just had "another look" to make
> sure I didn't miss any of the gunk, but its appears to be "clean".

If you think it's in the plastic, try scrubbing the area with the baking
soda using a cut lemon. I wonder if Febreze would help ... if they
even sell that there. Also, don't people swear by something called
Ozium?

nancy

Andy <q> wrote in :

> Chatty Cathy said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>
>>> Good. Just be careful, those boxes of baking soda have also been
>>> known to "run 'n' hide" themselves.
>>
>> This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker
>> <vbg> so I don't use it that often...
>
>
> It's for cooking?!? Will wonders never cease! )
>
> Andy
>
>
>


Try tenderizing some meat (beef or lamb) before using in a stir fry.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell

Nancy Young wrote:

> If you think it's in the plastic, try scrubbing the area with the baking
> soda using a cut lemon. I wonder if Febreze would help ... if they
> even sell that there. Also, don't people swear by something called
> Ozium?

I have heard of Febreze here - but thought it was only a fabric
deodorizer... Anyhoo, my hands now smell of bleach, as I just finished
washing the bottom half of the fridge surface with a fairly strong
solution of it. Will see how it smells in the morning...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Chatty Cathy wrote:
> We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
> there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
> hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
> various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
> I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
> Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
> Any other ideas?

Could there possibly be any milk residue that leaked onto the rubber
gasket parts of the door that you may not have cleaned?

Good luck!
--
Queenie

*** Be the change you wish to see in the world ***

Chatty Cathy said...

> notbob wrote:
>> On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
>>
>>> This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
>>> so I don't use it that often...
>>
>> As I understand it, that whole baking soda thing is just a myth to
>> sell lots of baking soda. If your fridge is clean, you don't need it.
>
> Well, I can't find the baking soda anyway, so I'll try the bleach
> solution. I found that


You're going to chlorine gas your fridge and the food in it???????

I would advise against that!

Andy

Nancy Young said...

> Also, don't people swear by something called
> Ozium?


WE DID IN COLLEGE!!!!!!

Andy

Chatty Cathy wrote:
> We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must
> have been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point
> that I didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk"
> smell when I opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo
> and behold, there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of
> the fridge - hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed
> it all out with various "disinfectant" products (that are available
> here) yesterday, but I can still smell it every time I open the door.
> Double-yuk. Now what? Do I empty the whole thing and try and find
> space for the milk etc. in the other fridge, switch it off and leave
> it open for a few days, or... Any other ideas?

Baking Soda.

MayQueen wrote:

>
> Could there possibly be any milk residue that leaked onto the rubber
> gasket parts of the door that you may not have cleaned?
>
> Good luck!

Checked that too - sigh. Thanks gonna need the luck, methinks.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Chatty Cathy > wrote in news:3vKni.14470$Sb4.12832
@newsfe21.lga:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> If you think it's in the plastic, try scrubbing the area with the baking
>> soda using a cut lemon. I wonder if Febreze would help ... if they
>> even sell that there. Also, don't people swear by something called
>> Ozium?
>
> I have heard of Febreze here - but thought it was only a fabric
> deodorizer... Anyhoo, my hands now smell of bleach, as I just finished
> washing the bottom half of the fridge surface with a fairly strong
> solution of it. Will see how it smells in the morning...




Hot water with vanilla essence in it.

Wash with that.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell

In article >,
says...
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:46:36 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> > wrote:
>
> >We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> >juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> >been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> >didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> >opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
> >there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
> >hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
> >various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
> >I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
> >Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
> >the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
> >Any other ideas?
>
> Open a box of baking soda and leave it in the fridge. Replace it once
> in a while. My mother always did this.
>

Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
including me until I learned the truth.


--
Peter Aitken

jmcquown wrote:

>
> Baking Soda.
>
>
Can't find it.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Peter A wrote:

>
> Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
>
> Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
> including me until I learned the truth.
>
>

So what would you recommend?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

l, not -l said...

>
> On 19-Jul-2007, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Amazing, those "run 'n' hide" food BUMS!!! Very clever of them!
>> >
>> > I also have "lost 'n' found" disgusting stuff in the fridge.
>> >
>> > A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep
>> > one
>> > in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may need
to
>> >
>> > let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it up a
>> > little
>> > every so often).
>>
>> Come to think of it I should have thought about the baking soda thing -
>> and I know I have some in the cupboard. I just had "another look" to
>> make sure I didn't miss any of the gunk, but its appears to be "clean".
>
> For a bit faster odor removal, dump the baking soda out of the box, into
a
> bowl to increase the working surface area. After a few hours, stir the
> baking soda in the bowl to bring "fresher" soda to the top. After a
> two-or-three of rounds of this, you should notice a big difference. At
> that point, you can augment or replace the bowl of soda with an open box
to
> keep odors under control.


l, not -l

WHY did that remind me of "Getting Better" (Beatles, "Sgt. Pepper")

Explain!

Andy

In article >,
Chatty Cathy > wrote:

> We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
> there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
> hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
> various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
> I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
> Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
> Any other ideas?

Layer some newspaper in the bottom for a few days.
Mom and dad used this and it worked.

Newsprint contains charcoal (or so M&D told me) and it works quite well.

I've done this, but always added an open box of baking soda for extra
insurance. ;-)
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Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
>
> > This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
> > so I don't use it that often...
>
> As I understand it, that whole baking soda thing is just a myth to
> sell lots of baking soda. If your fridge is clean, you don't need it.
>
> nb

Wrong.
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Remove _ to validate e-mails.

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In article >,
Chatty Cathy > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
> >
> > Baking Soda.
> >
> >
> Can't find it.

Newspaper.

Seriously.
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Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
says...
> > As I understand it, that whole baking soda thing is just a myth to
> > sell lots of baking soda. If your fridge is clean, you don't need it.
> >
> > nb
>
> Wrong.
>

nb is exactly right - baking soda DOES NOT ABSORB ODORS. This is a plain
fact of chemistry, although millions of people have been fooled into
thinking that it does.


--
Peter Aitken

"Peter A" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>> > As I understand it, that whole baking soda thing is just a myth to
>> > sell lots of baking soda. If your fridge is clean, you don't need it.
>> >
>> > nb
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>
> nb is exactly right - baking soda DOES NOT ABSORB ODORS. This is a plain
> fact of chemistry, although millions of people have been fooled into
> thinking that it does.
>
>
> --
> Peter Aitken


It's falling on deaf ears, Peter. And, in Om's case....

Never mind. Ask her about sea salt.

Peter A said...

> nb is exactly right - baking soda DOES NOT ABSORB ODORS. This is a plain
> fact of chemistry, although millions of people have been fooled into
> thinking that it does.


Well, we'll just have to wait for Cathy to get 2-D Jack off his rump and
fetch some and report back, now won't we?

Andy

In article >,
says...
> > nb is exactly right - baking soda DOES NOT ABSORB ODORS. This is a plain
> > fact of chemistry, although millions of people have been fooled into
> > thinking that it does.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Aitken
>
>
> It's falling on deaf ears, Peter. And, in Om's case....
>
> Never mind. Ask her about sea salt.
>

LOL!

I know that I should not be, but I am regularly amazed by the number of
people who are so attached to their old beliefs that they refuse to give
them even in the face of overwhelming evidence. It's a recipe for
remaining ignorant for your whole life.

--
Peter Aitken

"Peter A" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>> > nb is exactly right - baking soda DOES NOT ABSORB ODORS. This is a
>> > plain
>> > fact of chemistry, although millions of people have been fooled into
>> > thinking that it does.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Peter Aitken
>>
>>
>> It's falling on deaf ears, Peter. And, in Om's case....
>>
>> Never mind. Ask her about sea salt.
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I know that I should not be, but I am regularly amazed by the number of
> people who are so attached to their old beliefs that they refuse to give
> them even in the face of overwhelming evidence. It's a recipe for
> remaining ignorant for your whole life.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken


Hey....they've got someone in the White House to emulate. He still thinks
he's weakened al Qaeda and Pervez Musharraf is his buddy, even though his
hand picked security advisors are saying the exact opposite. No wonder so
many people think it's stylish to be delusional.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


> Hey....they've got someone in the White House to emulate. He still thinks
> he's weakened al Qaeda and Pervez Musharraf is his buddy, even though his
> hand picked security advisors are saying the exact opposite. No wonder so
> many people think it's stylish to be delusional.
>
>
No offense intended but... if you wanna talk politics - take this outside

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>
>> Hey....they've got someone in the White House to emulate. He still thinks
>> he's weakened al Qaeda and Pervez Musharraf is his buddy, even though his
>> hand picked security advisors are saying the exact opposite. No wonder so
>> many people think it's stylish to be delusional.
> No offense intended but... if you wanna talk politics - take this outside
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

Hush, you. Go iron my shirts.

:-)

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

>
> Hush, you. Go iron my shirts.
>
> :-)
>

In your dreams....
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:55:17 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>
>Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
>
>Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
>including me until I learned the truth.

I know it's on the myth list, but it works for me anyway. She can at
least try and it won't cost her an arm or a leg.


--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.