I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

thanks.

In article >,
"Michael" > wrote:

> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
> the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)
>
> fish sauce?
> lemon juice?
> soy sauce?
>
> how about...
> worcestershire?
> franks hot sauce?
>
> thanks.

I never refrigerate Vinegar and never have, and lately, I've stopped
refrigerating soy and oyster sauce. No problems.

Have not tried taking the Worcestershire out yet. I don't use it often.

I'd leave in the lemon juice.

Get a bigger 'frige? <G>
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On Jul 24, 7:43 am, "Michael" > wrote:
> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
> the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
> [snip list]

The only thing on your list that I do not store at room temp is lemon
juice. When I have too much of that (I have a lemon tree) I freeze
it in ice cube trays and store in the freezer.

On the other hand,I haven't looked on all those bottles / jars to find
the recommended storage place. -aem

Michael wrote:
> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
> the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)
>
> fish sauce?
> lemon juice?
> soy sauce?
>
> how about...
> worcestershire?
> franks hot sauce?
>



Michael:

Vinegar is the only thing I would not store in the refrigerator.
Some of the other things may be safe but I believe they lose quality
faster at room temperature.

I have noticed that hot sauce, once opened, loses heat fairly rapidly.

gloria p

Michael wrote:
> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
> some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar
> also)
> fish sauce?
> lemon juice?
> soy sauce?
>
> how about...
> worcestershire?
> franks hot sauce?

Lemon juice, soy sauce and worcestershire sauce Ok. I don't know about the
rest

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:43:35 -0400, "Michael" >
wrote:

>I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
>the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
>all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)
>
>fish sauce?
>lemon juice?
>soy sauce?
>
>how about...
>worcestershire?
>franks hot sauce?
>
>thanks.
>

i'd say everything but the lemon juice, unless it's the real lemon
crap. i've never heard of problems with vinegar or worcestershire.
might want to keep frank's in the dark, though.

here's a site for chinese sauce storage questions:

<http://chinesefood.about.com/od/sauces/f/storesauce.htm>

she's reasonably knowledgeable about chinese stuff.

oops, she says fish sauce goes in the fridge. no wonder mine smells
like fish. oyster sauce in the fridge also.

your pal,
blake

Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> "Michael" > wrote:
>
>> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
>> some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>>
>> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar
>> also)
>>
>> fish sauce?
>> lemon juice?
>> soy sauce?
>>
>> how about...
>> worcestershire?
>> franks hot sauce?
>>
>> thanks.
>
> I never refrigerate Vinegar and never have, and lately, I've stopped
> refrigerating soy and oyster sauce. No problems.
>
> Have not tried taking the Worcestershire out yet. I don't use it
> often.

I've *never* refrigerated my Worcestershire. It lives it's life in the
pantry.


>
> I'd leave in the lemon juice.

If it's bottled lemon juice, it can go in the pantry too. Rule of thumb
is, if you buy it from the fridge section of the superm,arket, it has to
stay in the fridge. If you get it off the shelf, it can live in the
pantry.

*Unless* of course, it says "Refrigerate after opening" on the bottle.


>
> Get a bigger 'frige? <G>


I have a 500lt and it seems the more room you have, the more you put in
there!!

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Michael wrote:
> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
> the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)
>
> fish sauce?
> lemon juice?
> soy sauce?
>
> how about...
> worcestershire?
> franks hot sauce?

The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon juice.
The rest do fine at room temp, especially the salty ones. The hot sauce
might discolor a bit over time, but maybe it does that in the fridge
too? I dunno..?

In article >,
Goomba38 > wrote:


> > franks hot sauce?

> The rest do fine at room temp, especially the salty ones. The hot sauce
> might discolor a bit over time, but maybe it does that in the fridge
> too? I dunno..?

Not only does hot sauce lose its color, but also its flavor and heat.
There are three solutions to this:

1. Keep it in the fridge (my daughter, and her quart hot sauce).
2. Buy little bottles (my solution).
3. Just live with it (my wife, who doesn't use it).

On Jul 24, 7:11?pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
> > the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
> > all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)
>
> > fish sauce?
> > lemon juice?
> > soy sauce?
>
> > how about...
> > worcestershire?
> > franks hot sauce?
>
> The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon juice.

I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
they actually cost less than the bottled crap. Last shopping I bought
three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
that sour **** in a bottle.

Sheldon

"Michael" wrote:
> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
> the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)
>
> fish sauce?
> lemon juice?
> soy sauce?
>
> how about...
> worcestershire?
> franks hot sauce?

How much room do you think you'll actually gain by removing six skinny
bottles... you're kidding of course, you gotta be.

Sheldon Twofridge

Sheldon wrote:
> On Jul 24, 7:11?pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
>>> some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>>
>>> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice
>>> vinegar also)
>>
>>> fish sauce?
>>> lemon juice?
>>> soy sauce?
>>
>>> how about...
>>> worcestershire?
>>> franks hot sauce?
>>
>> The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon
>> juice.
>
> I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
> once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
> my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
> difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
> and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
> they actually cost less than the bottled crap. Last shopping I bought
> three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
> were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
> lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
> lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
> salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
> twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
> that sour **** in a bottle.
>
> Sheldon

I usually try to buy fresh lemons, but my husband always uses them up for
his tea before I realize they're gone. I have the bottled stuff in the
fridge for emergency uses. It works in a pinch.

kili

Sheldon wrote:

> I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
> once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
> my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
> difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
> and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
> they actually cost less than the bottled crap. Last shopping I bought
> three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
> were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
> lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
> lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
> salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
> twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
> that sour **** in a bottle.
>
> Sheldon
>
We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
which could explain why it is so nasty?
Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.

Goomba38 wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried
>> it once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old
>> (actually my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash.
>> WTF is so difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy
>> fresh lemons and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that
>> expensive, I think they actually cost less than the bottled crap.
>> Last shopping I bought three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for
>> 59 cents each, and limes were ten in a bag, they were kind of small
>> but cost only $1.99 for the lot, I got two bags... they go quick in
>> mixed drinks, but mostly my lettuces are coming in from my garden so
>> I prepare huge amounts of salad... I like to sprinkle the salads
>> with citrus, it stays fresh twice as long in the fridge. I really
>> can't believe that so many use that sour **** in a bottle.
>>
>> Sheldon
>>
> We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
> in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
> which could explain why it is so nasty?
> Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
> frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
> weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.

That's what I use, Goomba! I keep it around for those times I go, "duh"
(slapping forehead), I'm out of lemons! It works great.

kili

On Jul 24, 11:40?pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
> > once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
> > my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
> > difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
> > and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
> > they actually cost less than the bottled crap. Last shopping I bought
> > three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
> > were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
> > lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
> > lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
> > salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
> > twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
> > that sour **** in a bottle.
>
> > Sheldon
>
> We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
> in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
> which could explain why it is so nasty?
> Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
> frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
> weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.

I somehow doubt frozen lemon juice tastes like fresh lemon. Even
fresh lemon once cut, carefully wrapped in plastic and placed in the
fridge tastes off the next day. A half a cut lemon will work the next
day in a salad dressing but not in a cocktail. Once citrus is cut it
begins to develop a bitterness. There's a reason that no packaged
orange juice can compare with fresh squeezed... people who regularly
drink OJ from those containers (even if not from concentrate) wouldn't
know. Packaged OJ is never from just one kind of orange anyway, it's
always a blend, that's why they all taste pretty much alike

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:

>> We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
>> in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
>> which could explain why it is so nasty?
>> Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
>> frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
>> weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.
>
> I somehow doubt frozen lemon juice tastes like fresh lemon. Even
> fresh lemon once cut, carefully wrapped in plastic and placed in the
> fridge tastes off the next day.

Sheldon, try it just once. It really isn't bad at all. I use it to make
lemonade with (using splenda as sweetener) to mix with my iced tea when
I want "Sunshine Tea" which is half lemonade-half iced tea. Sometimes
lemons *are* outrageously expensive and this frozen juice works very
nicely. I keep fresh lemons just as often, but I see the value in both
products. Try some!

On Jul 25, 5:23?am, Goomba38 > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> >> We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
> >> in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
> >> which could explain why it is so nasty?
> >> Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
> >> frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
> >> weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.
>
> > I somehow doubt frozen lemon juice tastes like fresh lemon. Even
> > fresh lemon once cut, carefully wrapped in plastic and placed in the
> > fridge tastes off the next day.
>
> Sheldon, try it just once. It really isn't bad at all.

Probably isn't bad but I doubt it's good.

I use it to make
> lemonade with (using splenda as sweetener) to mix with my iced tea when
> I want "Sunshine Tea" which is half lemonade-half iced tea. Sometimes
> lemons *are* outrageously expensive


I don't remember seeing lemons outrageously expensive since I was a
kid and everything shipped from outside the country cost an arm and a
leg... back then only NY was America, evywhere else was a bunch of
stinkin' feriners, still are if you ask me... lemons still don't grow
in NY but now they must email them in as an attachment to keep the
transportation costs down. So how much is outrageously expensive? I
think everything these days is outrageously expensive, but a person's
gotta live a little too. When I was a kid lemons cost like 5 cents
each and we thought they were a luxury. These days I think the price
of potatoes is highway robbery... who woulda thunk that what I
remember costing 2 cents a pound would now cost better than 50 cents a
pound, and potatoes are not nearly as good anymore. I remember a loaf
of *real* rye bread from a *real* bakery costing a dime... now there's
no decent rye bread at any price, and no more real bakeries, none!

> and this frozen juice works very
> nicely. I keep fresh lemons just as often, but I see the value in both
> products. Try some!

Thank you but no thank you... lemons, even though they're small, I
like mine natural, I still gotta feel it and smell it. Fresh lemons
are perfectly packaged in the perfect size, never any waste.... even
the natural packaging is useful in oh so many ways. I just know I
will never finish that entire can of frozen lemon glop, it'll probably
turn out outrageously expensive and extremely disappointing. To be
perfectly honest I'd be very embarrassed to serve my guests a wedge of
frozen lemon snot, obviously a commercial product, which is why
everything lemon you buy ready made tastes medicinal. Maybe your
taster is you know where but no way in you know where is frozen
anything gonna taste the same as fresh. And a large part of lemon
appeal is in the visual (can't garnish with frozen lemon s lime)....
sometimes a man just wants to look in the glass and contemplate a
twist. Padded bras were bad enough but now they're fine next to
sillycone... I'd much rather fondle a pair of natural lemons warm from
the sun than gallon jugs colder than a witch's tit

Sheldon

In article >,
PeterLucas > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article >,
> > "Michael" > wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
> >> some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
> >>
> >> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar
> >> also)
> >>
> >> fish sauce?
> >> lemon juice?
> >> soy sauce?
> >>
> >> how about...
> >> worcestershire?
> >> franks hot sauce?
> >>
> >> thanks.
> >
> > I never refrigerate Vinegar and never have, and lately, I've stopped
> > refrigerating soy and oyster sauce. No problems.
> >
> > Have not tried taking the Worcestershire out yet. I don't use it
> > often.
>
> I've *never* refrigerated my Worcestershire. It lives it's life in the
> pantry.

Cool. I was not sure as like I said, I don't use it much.

>
>
> >
> > I'd leave in the lemon juice.
>
> If it's bottled lemon juice, it can go in the pantry too. Rule of thumb
> is, if you buy it from the fridge section of the superm,arket, it has to
> stay in the fridge. If you get it off the shelf, it can live in the
> pantry.
>
> *Unless* of course, it says "Refrigerate after opening" on the bottle.

Which "Real Lemon" does.

>
>
> >
> > Get a bigger 'frige? <G>
>
>
> I have a 500lt and it seems the more room you have, the more you put in
> there!!

My Hobart on the back porch is 40 cubic ft. plus we have a "normal" one
in the kitchen. I consider myself lucky to have "adequate" frige space,
even tho' the Hobart has cost me about 1/2 of it's value to maintain. I
had to replace the bloody compressor for $1,100. :-P

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In article . com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> On Jul 24, 7:11?pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
> > Michael wrote:
> > > I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some
> > > of
> > > the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
> >
> > > all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar
> > > also)
> >
> > > fish sauce?
> > > lemon juice?
> > > soy sauce?
> >
> > > how about...
> > > worcestershire?
> > > franks hot sauce?
> >
> > The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon juice.
>
> I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
> once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
> my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
> difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
> and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
> they actually cost less than the bottled crap. Last shopping I bought
> three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
> were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
> lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
> lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
> salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
> twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
> that sour **** in a bottle.
>
> Sheldon

I think that bottled lemon juice is disgusting and does not even taste
like Lemon. Real fresh lemons are not that expensive.

But, we do have a couple of them in the 'frige because dad buys them.

But he gets to use them. I won't!
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:21:56 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> Goomba38 > wrote:
>
>
>> > franks hot sauce?
>
>> The rest do fine at room temp, especially the salty ones. The hot sauce
>> might discolor a bit over time, but maybe it does that in the fridge
>> too? I dunno..?
>
>Not only does hot sauce lose its color, but also its flavor and heat.
>There are three solutions to this:
>
>1. Keep it in the fridge (my daughter, and her quart hot sauce).
>2. Buy little bottles (my solution).
>3. Just live with it (my wife, who doesn't use it).

those of you who remember jack schidt (he of the many last names) may
remember when he posted a picture of a gallon bottle of tabasco. i
think he treated it as an objet d'art.

god, i miss him.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:33:52 -0400, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>> On Jul 24, 7:11?pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
>>> Michael wrote:
>>>> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
>>>> some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>>>
>>>> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice
>>>> vinegar also)
>>>
>>>> fish sauce?
>>>> lemon juice?
>>>> soy sauce?
>>>
>>>> how about...
>>>> worcestershire?
>>>> franks hot sauce?
>>>
>>> The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon
>>> juice.
>>
>> I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
>> once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
>> my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
>> difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
>> and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
>> they actually cost less than the bottled crap. Last shopping I bought
>> three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
>> were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
>> lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
>> lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
>> salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
>> twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
>> that sour **** in a bottle.
>>
>> Sheldon
>
>I usually try to buy fresh lemons, but my husband always uses them up for
>his tea before I realize they're gone. I have the bottled stuff in the
>fridge for emergency uses. It works in a pinch.
>
>kili
>
you can't go wrong with the minute maid frozen stuff. two bucks for
the juice of seven lemons vs. $1.80 for three (plus labor)?

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:23:45 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>
>>> We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
>>> in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
>>> which could explain why it is so nasty?
>>> Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
>>> frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
>>> weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.
>>
>> I somehow doubt frozen lemon juice tastes like fresh lemon. Even
>> fresh lemon once cut, carefully wrapped in plastic and placed in the
>> fridge tastes off the next day.
>
>Sheldon, try it just once. It really isn't bad at all. I use it to make
>lemonade with (using splenda as sweetener) to mix with my iced tea when
>I want "Sunshine Tea" which is half lemonade-half iced tea. Sometimes
>lemons *are* outrageously expensive and this frozen juice works very
>nicely. I keep fresh lemons just as often, but I see the value in both
>products. Try some!

sheldon would rather grind his at home and store it in the freezer.
that's just the Kind of Guy He Is.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> you can't go wrong with the minute maid frozen stuff. two bucks for
> the juice of seven lemons vs. $1.80 for three (plus labor)?
>
> your pal,
> blake

Yabut isn't there sugar added to that stuff???

I don't want that.
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Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > you can't go wrong with the minute maid frozen stuff. two bucks
> > for the juice of seven lemons vs. $1.80 for three (plus labor)?
> >
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> Yabut isn't there sugar added to that stuff???
>
> I don't want that.

I think you're confusing the product with frozen lemonade.




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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article . com>,
> Sheldon > wrote:
>
>
>> I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
>> once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
>> my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
>> difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
>> and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
>> they actually cost less than the bottled crap. Last shopping I bought
>> three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
>> were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
>> lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
>> lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
>> salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
>> twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
>> that sour **** in a bottle.
>>
>> Sheldon
>
> I think that bottled lemon juice is disgusting and does not even taste
> like Lemon. Real fresh lemons are not that expensive.
>
> But, we do have a couple of them in the 'frige because dad buys them.
>
> But he gets to use them. I won't!
> --
> Peace, Om
>
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>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack
> Nicholson

Lemons are a buck a piece around here (northern New England). So we just
ration our lemon requirements. :-)

On Jul 25, 4:02?pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > you can't go wrong with the minute maid frozen stuff. two bucks for
> > the juice of seven lemons vs. $1.80 for three (plus labor)?
>
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> Yabut isn't there sugar added to that stuff???
>
> I don't want that.

The Minute Maid web site says nothing added... BUT, it's
*reconstituted*... it's exctly the same as RealLemon, but it's
frozen. No way will any of these products come anywhere close to
*fresh* lemon. I suspect if it's even twice as good as RealLemon it's
still only a tiny baby step up from lemon KoolAid.

http://www.minutemaid.com/products/Other/LemonJuice.jsp

Omelet > wrote in
news

>>
>>
>> I have a 500lt and it seems the more room you have, the more you put
>> in there!!
>
> My Hobart on the back porch is 40 cubic ft.



*40 cubic feet*???!!! Thats bloody 1,132 bloody lts!!!

You have to take a picture of that monstrosity and post a link to it..



>plus we have a "normal"
> one in the kitchen. I consider myself lucky to have "adequate" frige
> space, even tho' the Hobart has cost me about 1/2 of it's value to
> maintain. I had to replace the bloody compressor for $1,100. :-P
>
> Thank the gods for Visa.


For that price you could have bought a brand new *humungous* fridge!!


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell

On Jul 24, 9:43 am, "Michael" > wrote:
> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
> the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)
>
> fish sauce?
> lemon juice?
> soy sauce?
>
> how about...
> worcestershire?
> franks hot sauce?
>
> thanks.

My g'mama stored open jars of chocolate sauce, jams, jellies, mustard
and ketchup without refrigeration. I refrigerate everything that says
to do so "after opening" -this includes pickles and ReaLemon, and all
jams and jellies.

Vinegar? Never in the fridge - same for W'shire sauce, soy sauce,
Tabasco, wine vinegar, cooking sherry, etc. I don't know what those
other things are you listed.

In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> > > you can't go wrong with the minute maid frozen stuff. two bucks
> > > for the juice of seven lemons vs. $1.80 for three (plus labor)?
> > >
> > > your pal,
> > > blake
> >
> > Yabut isn't there sugar added to that stuff???
> >
> > I don't want that.
>
> I think you're confusing the product with frozen lemonade.
>
>
>
>
> Brian

Perhaps.

If I want lemon, I purchase fresh ones. The last ones I bought were 3
for $1.00 which is about average. They get as low as 5 for $1.00.

When lemons were a really good price, mom would get a bunch, wash them
well, zest them then juice them. The juice would be frozen in ice cube
trays and the zest frozen in a jar.

I'm with Sheldon that frozen "reconstituted" lemon juice is as bad as
that "real lemon" stuff.

Might be ok in a pinch but still... It's not as good as the real thing!
No way, no how.
--
Peace, Om

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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
PeterLucas > wrote:

> > My Hobart on the back porch is 40 cubic ft.
>
>
>
> *40 cubic feet*???!!! Thats bloody 1,132 bloody lts!!!
>
> You have to take a picture of that monstrosity and post a link to it..

I will eventually. I got it for free to start with when our lab was
upgrading. Double glass doors with double glass. It's huge. I sprayed it
inside and out with a 10% bleach solution before starting it up to clean
and disinfect it.

It was fun to haul home and get it inside. ;-) I bribed some neighbor
guys to do it with money and beer. I ended up doubling what I'd
originally offered them as they worked so hard!

2 cases (48) beers and $40.00 each.

It's on wheels so I can clean behind and under it.

>
>
>
> >plus we have a "normal"
> > one in the kitchen. I consider myself lucky to have "adequate" frige
> > space, even tho' the Hobart has cost me about 1/2 of it's value to
> > maintain. I had to replace the bloody compressor for $1,100. :-P
> >
> > Thank the gods for Visa.
>
>
> For that price you could have bought a brand new *humungous* fridge!!

Nope. Even a used Hobart this size goes for nearly 3K around here.

They are worth it. They hold a very stable temp and food lasts twice as
long in there as it does in the kitchen frige, and I can monitor it from
the outside built in temp gauge.

This is a commercial frige and I have to call a commercial service to
repair and maintain it. It's worth every darned dime...

>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
--
Peace, Om

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Omelet wrote:

> I'm with Sheldon that frozen "reconstituted" lemon juice is as bad as
> that "real lemon" stuff.
>
> Might be ok in a pinch but still... It's not as good as the real thing!
> No way, no how.

And yet you've not tried it to know. Typical.
It is an excellent product for making lemonaid.

In article >,
"Michael" > wrote:

> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
> the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)
>
> fish sauce?
> lemon juice?
> soy sauce?
>
> how about...
> worcestershire?
> franks hot sauce?
>
> thanks.

I've never kept vinegar, worcestershire, ketchup, mustard, fish sauce,
soy sauce or Tabasco in the fridge. I do keep lemon juice there.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com - story and
pics of Ronald McDonald House dinner posted 6-24-2007

On Jul 26, 11:03?am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
> "Default User" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Omelet wrote:
>
> > > In article >,
> > > blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > > > you can't go wrong with the minute maid frozen stuff. two bucks
> > > > for the juice of seven lemons vs. $1.80 for three (plus labor)?
>
> > > > your pal,
> > > > blake
>
> > > Yabut isn't there sugar added to that stuff???
>
> > > I don't want that.
>
> > I think you're confusing the product with frozen lemonade.
>
> > Brian
>
> Perhaps.
>
> If I want lemon, I purchase fresh ones. The last ones I bought were 3
> for $1.00 which is about average. They get as low as 5 for $1.00.
>
> When lemons were a really good price, mom would get a bunch, wash them
> well, zest them then juice them. The juice would be frozen in ice cube
> trays and the zest frozen in a jar.
>
> I'm with Sheldon that frozen "reconstituted" lemon juice is as bad as
> that "real lemon" stuff.
>
> Might be ok in a pinch but still... It's not as good as the real thing!
> No way, no how.


And when you go to the Minute Maid site you will have to search very
hard to find this lemon puke, obviously Minute Maid is not proud of
this product.

Sheldon

In article >, Steve Wertz > wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:43:35 -0400, Michael wrote:
>
>> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
>> the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
>
>What do they say on the labels?

That's what I go by -- if it says "Refridgerate after opening", then you
probably should...

--
Jani

In article .com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> > I'm with Sheldon that frozen "reconstituted" lemon juice is as bad as
> > that "real lemon" stuff.
> >
> > Might be ok in a pinch but still... It's not as good as the real thing!
> > No way, no how.
>
>
> And when you go to the Minute Maid site you will have to search very
> hard to find this lemon puke, obviously Minute Maid is not proud of
> this product.
>
> Sheldon

Might be on the website, but I've never seen it at my local store.
Probably why I did not know about it.

Frozen home made squeezed lemon juice cubes work pretty well actually.
Works with limes too.

That reminds me, I need to process that bag of key limes dad bought.
<sigh> They are a pita, but flavorful.
--
Peace, Om

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Melba's wrote on Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:09:07 -0500:

??>> I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem
??>> to me that some of the following would be fine stored at
??>> room temperature....
??>>
??>> all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and
??>> rice vinegar also)
??>>
??>> fish sauce?
??>> lemon juice?
??>> soy sauce?
??>>
??>> how about...
??>> worcestershire?
??>> franks hot sauce?
??>>
??>> thanks.

It's too much trouble to sort them out so I keep everything like
that except for vinegar and oil in the fridge. Oil, not because
it keeps very well outside, but olive and sesame oil will
solidify.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Jul 26, 3:49?pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
> > I'm with Sheldon that frozen "reconstituted" lemon juice is as bad as
> > that "real lemon" stuff.
>
> > Might be ok in a pinch but still... It's not as good as the real thing!
> > No way, no how.
>
> And yet you've not tried it to know. Typical.

After so many years of trying all sorts of reconstituted and fron food
products I don't need to try it to know it's carp.

> It is an excellent product for making lemonaid.


Lemonade is probably the worst of all possible choices for comparing
lemon flavor... especially with how much sugar most folks add, and
many use a sugar substitute no less... so with all the sugar/sugar
substitute it just may as well be frozen lemonade concentrate. Btw, I
happen to like lemon flavored beverages, especially carbonated
beverages (7-UP and the like), but none taste like fresh lemon (I
don't expect them to). But I don't much care for lemonade made with
fresh lemons, in fact I think it's an awful waste of so many fresh
lemons. I'm not a big fan of lemonade anyway. Fresh lemons serve me
for dozens of uses, none of which anything but fresh will do, only a
wedge of fresh lemon can enhance a plain glass of plain ice water like
no phny balony lemon flavoring can... even the spent rinds, they make
excellent deodorizer.. I never just throw them in the trash... usually
my squeezed rinds go directly into a drink, even enhances 7-Up, but
they also can just as well spend a night in my kitchen sink drain
strainer. But for cooking (anything), once again, no product
substitutes for fresh lemon. I wanna see you garnish a fried
shellfish platter with reconstituted frozen lemon puss.

Admit it, yoose all just too frickin' lazy to squeeze lemons is all.

Sheldon

James Silverton wrote:
>
> It's too much trouble to sort them out so I keep everything like
> that except for vinegar and oil in the fridge. Oil, not because
> it keeps very well outside, but olive and sesame oil will
> solidify.

That's what I do, too. Olive oil doesn't solidify
completely, but separates into liquid and slush layers.
And after allowing it to come back to room temperature
(and reliquify, of course), it seems to me as though
it permanently loses some of its flavor. I can't
think of a good explanation for how that can happen,
but it sure seems to me like it does.

Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> I've never kept vinegar, worcestershire, ketchup, mustard, fish sauce,
> soy sauce or Tabasco in the fridge. I do keep lemon juice there.

Shame on you! Mustard loses its bite very, very fast if not
refrigerated.

Victor

Omelet wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > > I'm with Sheldon that frozen "reconstituted" lemon juice is as bad as
> > > that "real lemon" stuff.
>
> > > Might be ok in a pinch but still... It's not as good as the real thing!
> > > No way, no how.
>
> > And when you go to the Minute Maid site you will have to search very
> > hard to find this lemon puke, obviously Minute Maid is not proud of
> > this product.
>
> > Sheldon
>
> Might be on the website, but I've never seen it at my local store.
> Probably why I did not know about it.
>
> Frozen home made squeezed lemon juice cubes work pretty well actually.
> Works with limes too.
>
> That reminds me, I need to process that bag of key limes dad bought.

I'm very busy processing those limes I bought, and processing, and
processing, and processing... and trying to decide what to have for
dinner, and enjoying my freshly mowed lawn, and my babies are enjoying
the view too... and I bet I know which they want for dinner.

Limes are easy to process, not quite sure how to incorporate the
pretty peaches, probably just dive in and much au jus:
http://i17.tinypic.com/5yvrdr9.jpg

Eeny, meany, miney, mo.. which one, which one... I curios about those
brats (seen em advertized on tv like crazy so I broke down), but I
know which my babies want, brats can wait until Saturday.... bought
those two beauties today, never frozen: http://i10.tinypic.com/4ts7wj8.jpg

My basbies got the life, I bust my ass twelve hours in 90 deg sun
mowing and all they do is count passing hummingbirds in 68 deg central
air, the two boys, Blackie and Jack:
http://i11.tinypic.com/5z56crn.jpg

Sheldon