http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460792/

an excellent post-punk postmodernist deconstruction of all the lies
the u.s. purports to be. plus bruce willis is in it so he'll have
foxnews ****ed off, a bit like what happened with mel gibson and who
killed the electric car. 10 out of 10.

On Jul 27, 8:32 pm, wrote:
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460792/
>
> an excellent post-punk postmodernist deconstruction of all the lies
> the u.s. purports to be. plus bruce willis is in it so he'll have
> foxnews ****ed off, a bit like what happened with mel gibson and who
> killed the electric car. 10 out of 10.

australian contributions to civilization:

10. restrictions on oriental emigrants <has that been changed?>
9. partial disappearance of native bushmen <by their own autonomous
free wills?>
8. can't take-out being over run by a few zillion rabbits <and no
natural predators?>
7. terrific final settting for that 1950s doomsday movie with tony
perkins? <waltzing matilda music>
6. what's that childhood toy-thing that one throws, and it sorta sails
back in the air? <no quantas mascot or kangaroo cliche here>
5. that actor that threw the telephone at snotty hotel...<the only
rational thing i like>
4. roger bannister's 3 minute + mile <before your time, it
subsequently took me 5 minutes 20 seconds>
3. the wimpy burge.....uh, no, that's popeye's fried chicken in usa
etal
2. they probably drive on the wrong side of vthe street <like the
looneytoons in canada>
1. their dollar is worth less too
0. mel...no...he's such a beautiful inebrriated ugly american
originally

On Jul 27, 5:32 pm, wrote:
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460792/
>
> an excellent post-punk postmodernist deconstruction of all the lies
> the u.s. purports to be. plus bruce willis is in it so he'll have
> foxnews ****ed off, a bit like what happened with mel gibson and who
> killed the electric car. 10 out of 10.

This author has some good stuff and I have quoted it before, that is
the book he wrote after "fast food nation."

http://www.amazon.com/Reefer-Madness...5645719&sr=1-2

Low overall population densities may be necessary for a sustainable
quality of life, current drought conditions notwithstanding.

If the drought in the western U. S. keeps up for 2 more years expect a
reverse 1930s style dust bowl to send 40 million people back east
demanding services.

Let me know how much fun you have getting the rich in Atlanta to pay
for the services.


Bret Cahill


> australian contributions to civilization:
>
> 10. restrictions on oriental emigrants <has that been changed?>
> 9. partial disappearance of native bushmen <by their own autonomous
> free wills?>
> 8. can't take-out being over run by a few zillion rabbits <and no
> natural predators?>
> 7. terrific final settting for that 1950s doomsday movie with tony
> perkins? <waltzing matilda music>
> 6. what's that childhood toy-thing that one throws, and it sorta sails
> back in the air? <no quantas mascot or kangaroo cliche here>
> 5. that actor that threw the telephone at snotty hotel...<the only
> rational thing i like>
> 4. roger bannister's 3 minute + mile <before your time, it
> subsequently took me 5 minutes 20 seconds>
> 3. the wimpy burge.....uh, no, that's popeye's fried chicken in usa
> etal
> 2. they probably drive on the wrong side of vthe street <like the
> looneytoons in canada>
> 1. their dollar is worth less too
> 0. mel...no...he's such a beautiful inebrriated ugly american
> originally

On Jul 28, 2:39 pm, Bret Cahill > wrote:
> Low overall population densities may be necessary for a sustainable
> quality of life, current drought conditions notwithstanding.
>
> If the drought in the western U. S. keeps up for 2 more years expect a
> reverse 1930s style dust bowl to send 40 million people back east
> demanding services.
>
> Let me know how much fun you have getting the rich in Atlanta to pay
> for the services.
>
> Bret Cahill
>
>
>
> > australian contributions to civilization:
>
> > 10. restrictions on oriental emigrants <has that been changed?>
> > 9. partial disappearance of native bushmen <by their own autonomous
> > free wills?>
> > 8. can't take-out being over run by a few zillion rabbits <and no
> > natural predators?>
> > 7. terrific final settting for that 1950s doomsday movie with tony
> > perkins? <waltzing matilda music>
> > 6. what's that childhood toy-thing that one throws, and it sorta sails
> > back in the air? <no quantas mascot or kangaroo cliche here>
> > 5. that actor that threw the telephone at snotty hotel...<the only
> > rational thing i like>
> > 4. roger bannister's 3 minute + mile <before your time, it
> > subsequently took me 5 minutes 20 seconds>
> > 3. the wimpy burge.....uh, no, that's popeye's fried chicken in usa
> > etal
> > 2. they probably drive on the wrong side of vthe street <like the
> > looneytoons in canada>
> > 1. their dollar is worth less too
> > 0. mel...no...he's such a beautiful inebrriated ugly american
> > originally- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

as the stereotype ole south, most of georgia isn't generally wealthy-
affluent

as the "new south," there are the especially well-to-do in the atlanta
area, nevertheless daily struggling in commuter traffic helle, almost
as bad or perhaps sometimes worse than los angeles

we have had a springtime and very early summer "drought," though
fortunately some good rains in the approx past ...uh..3-4 weeks
(whatever), and the peaches are amazingly large this summer and juicy
<are they from elsewhere, chile, or sumthin?>

the local real estate market is suffering with foreclosures and
unsolds

prices thus drop, and some do even occasionally in better bourgeois
school districts

though, "they say" the horrors are in the florida, california, and
michigan

as the iraq extravaganza wastefully ensues, i am by my pessimistic
nature a gloom 'n doomer; and you sound like you're there too

hillary vs fred thompson?

> the local real estate market is suffering with foreclosures and
> unsolds

Then help your fellow [ex]westerner as well as yourself. Buy some
property.

Global warming scientists more or less have figured out the Colorado
is a _former_ river.

There's no institutional racism out west so we'll all vote Democrat
when we move back east.


Bret Cahill

On Jul 29, 1:09 am, Bret Cahill > wrote:
> > the local real estate market is suffering with foreclosures and
> > unsolds
>
> Then help your fellow [ex]westerner as well as yourself. Buy some
> property.
>
> Global warming scientists more or less have figured out the Colorado
> is a _former_ river.
>
> There's no institutional racism out west so we'll all vote Democrat
> when we move back east.
>
> Bret Cahill

buy low/sell high

buying when most are selling is certainly an intelligent, shrewd,
vulturistic (if a word) concept, despite that liberal-humanist good
deed rationale you imply too

milton friedman, ayn rand etal: economic man acts primarily in his
perceived rational self-interest

true enough, but then how do ya explain altruism, religious
inhibitions, secular humanistic hang-ups ?

conclusion

"culture norms repress selfish (and rational, self-interested)
instincts," robert a. cohen, 2007

> > > the local real estate market is suffering with foreclosures and
> > > unsolds

> > Then help your fellow [ex]westerner as well as yourself. Buy some
> > property.

> > Global warming scientists more or less have figured out the Colorado
> > is a _former_ river.

> > There's no institutional racism out west so we'll all vote Democrat
> > when we move back east.

> buy low/sell high

> buying when most are selling is certainly an intelligent, shrewd,
> vulturistic (if a word) concept, despite that liberal-humanist good
> deed rationale you imply too

During the first emotional stages of a natural disaster everyone is
expected to work for free, to sell gen sets and fuel at pre disaster
prices.

Super market chains do in fact often assume the role of the local
aristocrat and provide ice and water for free.

Not just populists but a large majority believe there's a difference
in making a profit off of someone who's situation hasn't changed and
someone who's situation has recently gotten much worse.

The thing is, markets should work regardless of whether someone's
situation has recently improved or recently gotten worse.

"Price gouging" is only considered evil in the first emotional stage
of a disaster.

If Home Depot cannot afford to truck in more generators, then the
people whose situation has recently gotten worse might not get the
stuff they need.

After all, couldn't we look at peak oil as a natural disaster and
demand prepeak gasoline prices?

Most believe it would be better to keep free markets.

If you want to make sure everyone got what he needed, then level
wealth with free speech on economic issues including national economic
policy, not just free speech for "Bong Hits for Jesus."

In any event, any mass migration from the SW won't be as sudden as a
hurricane.

Landlords will have plenty of time to jack up the prices.

> milton friedman, ayn rand etal: economic man acts primarily in his
> perceived rational self-interest

Well, their argument is that _all_ you need to do is act in your self
interest and that's best for everyone.

DeTocqueville also countered the socialists of his time saying you
cannot make the country strong by weakening the individual.

What the "market" economists "merely" omit is that it works both
ways; you cannot have strong individuals by weakening government.

JFK was countering the "market" economists' nonsense with his famous
speech but he really meant it goes both ways:

It's what you can do for your country as well as what your country can
do for you.

Any JFK historian will back me up on this.

> true enough, but then how do ya explain altruism, religious
> inhibitions, secular humanistic hang-ups ?
> "culture norms repress selfish (and rational, self-interested)
> instincts,"

The "market" economists twist the natural meanings of words and claim
that these are vices of the human heart and need to be countered.

But altruism is a successful survival tactic for the individual and
this is much more true today than back when humans were still
evolving.

Cheap communications politicizes everything.


Bret Cahill


"You . . . you . . . you have to be nice to EVERYONE. Ha ha ha ha
ha."

-- One gleeful Dad