http://www.recfoodcooking.com

Vote now! (or not)

Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this survey.
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On Aug 5, 8:05?am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Vote now! (or not)

I win a beanie!

Sheldon

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Vote now! (or not)
>
> Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this survey.

Gah!

I missed the tinfoil hat by only ONE this time!

I was the second voter...

<sigh>

Too bad there are no runner ups.
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In article .com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> On Aug 5, 8:05?am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com
> >
> > Vote now! (or not)
>
> I win a beanie!
>
> Sheldon

Ya bum! :-)
Since when do you use chopsticks for every meal?
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"ChattyCathy" > wrote

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

I took the first two questions as being opposite ... do you eat
with your fork in your left and the knife in the right or ...
question 2, do you switch. I think people are saying yes to
both.

I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.

nancy

ChattyCathy said...

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Vote now! (or not)
>
> Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this survey.


I was voter #5!

I'LL BE BACK!

Andy

Nancy Young wrote:

>
> I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.

Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
eat my food...

And I should have asked the contributor to add one more question:

When "laying the table" for dinner - where do you place the knife and
fork?

Fork on the left and knife on the right
Knife on the left and fork on the right

Where do *you* place them?

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"ChattyCathy" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
>
> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
> knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
> eat my food...

Heh, don't be offended, but when I see people eating the way you
mention, and I am well aware it is the way people eat in much of
the world, it has the appearance (to me) that they just can't shovel the
food into their mouth fast enough.

Put down the knife when I could be putting food into my mouth?
(laugh) Know what I mean? Yes, I also know that people who eat
that way think it looks awkward to switch. To each their own, so long
as they chew with their mouth closed, that's what I say.

> And I should have asked the contributor to add one more question:
>
> When "laying the table" for dinner - where do you place the knife and
> fork?
>
> Fork on the left and knife on the right
> Knife on the left and fork on the right
>
> Where do *you* place them?

Fork on the left, knife on the right.

nancy

ChattyCathy wrote:

> Fork on the left and knife on the right
> Knife on the left and fork on the right
>
> Where do *you* place them?


According to the mnemonic: Fork, napkin and left have an even number of
letters. Knife, spoon and right have an odd number of letters.


I wish there were a way on the survey to trace who is from where and who
switches their fork back and forth. I'm from the U.S. and learned the
switching method: fork goes in left hand to cut, then in the right hand
to bring the food to the mouth. Jim's from Canada. He learned the
non-switching method: fork stays in left for cutting and transporting.
I always feel like an idiot when dining with his family. Their method
is so efficient and neat, but when I've tried to learn it, I find it
tricky. It would take practice. (His family has never said a word
about my manners or lack. It's just 2 methods, both acceptable.)


--Lia

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
. ..
> ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>
> According to the mnemonic: Fork, napkin and left have an even number of
> letters. Knife, spoon and right have an odd number of letters.

That's a lot to remember. I just put the fork left.

>
>
> I wish there were a way on the survey to trace who is from where and who
> switches their fork back and forth. I'm from the U.S. and learned the
> switching method: fork goes in left hand to cut, then in the right hand
> to bring the food to the mouth. Jim's from Canada. He learned the
> non-switching method: fork stays in left for cutting and transporting.

I'm left-handed so it was just natural to do that. Switching hands is
inefficient and plain silly from a manners POV. Who care which hand you
use for the fork? I never check what my dining companions are doing.

Nancy Young wrote:
> "ChattyCathy" > wrote
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
>> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
>> knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
>> eat my food...
>
> Heh, don't be offended, but when I see people eating the way you
> mention, and I am well aware it is the way people eat in much of
> the world, it has the appearance (to me) that they just can't shovel the
> food into their mouth fast enough.

I didn't get offended LOL. I get the impression that people from the USA
tend to do the "switch" thing - I've known quite a few that moved here
and had meals with them. Always looked "time-consuming" or at least
"awkward" to me. That's why the contributor put the "where were you
born" question in - a lot depends on what you are used to or "brought up
to do".
>
> Put down the knife when I could be putting food into my mouth?
> (laugh) Know what I mean? Yes, I also know that people who eat
> that way think it looks awkward to switch. To each their own, so long
> as they chew with their mouth closed, that's what I say.

Yeah. Chewing with one's mouth open is a no-no here too, as is tucking
your dinner napkin into your shirt front too However, I have seen
more and more people putting their elbows on the table in restaurants
(and I am guilty of that too sometimes) which I would never had done as
a child - it would have brought my Mother's wrath down on me like a ton
of bricks. LOL
>
>> And I should have asked the contributor to add one more question:
>>
>> When "laying the table" for dinner - where do you place the knife and
>> fork?
>>
>> Fork on the left and knife on the right
>> Knife on the left and fork on the right
>>
>> Where do *you* place them?
>
> Fork on the left, knife on the right.

Same here.

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Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "ChattyCathy" > wrote
>
> > Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >> I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
> >
> > Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
> > knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
> > eat my food...
>
> Heh, don't be offended, but when I see people eating the way you
> mention, and I am well aware it is the way people eat in much of
> the world, it has the appearance (to me) that they just can't shovel the
> food into their mouth fast enough.
>
> Put down the knife when I could be putting food into my mouth?
> (laugh) Know what I mean? Yes, I also know that people who eat
> that way think it looks awkward to switch. To each their own, so long
> as they chew with their mouth closed, that's what I say.
>
> > And I should have asked the contributor to add one more question:
> >
> > When "laying the table" for dinner - where do you place the knife and
> > fork?
> >
> > Fork on the left and knife on the right
> > Knife on the left and fork on the right
> >
> > Where do *you* place them?
>
> Fork on the left, knife on the right.
>
> nancy

Same here. And the spoon to the right of the fork.

I switch the fork to the right hand to eat without even thinking about
it.
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Julia Altshuler wrote:

>
> I wish there were a way on the survey to trace who is from where and who
> switches their fork back and forth.

Well I would be so bold as to hazard a guess from the number if votes
for "switching" and the number of votes for "USA" that the majority of
"switchers" were born in the USA.
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ChattyCathy wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
>> I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
>
> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
> knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
> eat my food...
>
> And I should have asked the contributor to add one more question:
>
> When "laying the table" for dinner - where do you place the knife and
> fork?
>
> Fork on the left and knife on the right
> Knife on the left and fork on the right
>
> Where do *you* place them?
>

Setting the table. Not laying the table. At least I believe that is
what you want. )

The Settlement Cook Book has a chapter on setting the table, for both
formal and informal meals. It also tells you how to make soap.

ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> Well I would be so bold as to hazard a guess from the number if votes
> for "switching" and the number of votes for "USA" that the majority of
> "switchers" were born in the USA.


Agreed. (I reread my post and see that it could be interpreted as a
criticism of the survey. I didn't mean it that way.) I'm curious about
the exceptions, if there are any. For table manners, Canada follows the
British model. For driving, Canada follows the U.S. model. For miles
and measurement, Canada does it like Europe. For speech and spelling,
it's a blend. So I was wondering if there are folks from Canada who use
either method depending on whom they're dining with or what the
influences are on their table manners.


I'm curious about how we learn these things. I don't recall my parents
ever showing me how a knife and fork were used specifically. They'd
correct me at the table if I did anything overtly disgusting, but they
were lax about specifics. I do remember a time in elementary school
when I was eating with a friend. I was holding my fork in my left fist
and having trouble managing the meat. My friend's mother showed me how
to hold the fork correctly. Other than that, I think I learned
everything from observation. Now it's so ingrained that I'd have
trouble using another method.


--Lia

Nancy wrote on Sun, 5 Aug 2007 08:45:04 -0400:

??>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

NY> I took the first two questions as being opposite ... do you
NY> eat with your fork in your left and the knife in the right
NY> or ... question 2, do you switch. I think people are
NY> saying yes to both.

NY> I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.

Being brought up in the UK, I can eat two-handed without
difficulty. I always understood that it was not good American
manners to precut *all* your food in one fell swoop! My American
kids enjoyed learning, at ages of 6 and 8, the European method
for trips there. They looked forward to using knife and fork
that way in restaurants and switched back easily on return home.
They learned to used to use chopsticks too a few years later.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Andy wrote:
> ChattyCathy said...
>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>
>> Vote now! (or not)
>>
>> Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this survey.
>
>
> I was voter #5!
>
> I'LL BE BACK!
>
> Andy

I was voter #3
I'll prolly never be as close to #1...

Aloha...tutu

margaret suran wrote:

>
> Setting the table. Not laying the table. At least I believe that is
> what you want. )

ROFL

margaret, thanks for pointing out that faux pas. My humble apologies

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On Aug 5, 8:28?am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article .com>,
>
> Sheldon > wrote:
> > On Aug 5, 8:05?am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> > >http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> > > Vote now! (or not)
>
> > I win a beanie!
>
> > Sheldon
>
> Ya bum! :-)
> Since when do you use chopsticks for every meal?

Didn't have "Other"... I rarely bother with a knife at the table, with
meats I just use a fork, I typically stab n' gnaw (kinda like chop
sticks. And for location didn't have Noo Yawk.

Norma Mastenbrook said...

> Andy wrote:
>> ChattyCathy said...
>>
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>
>>> Vote now! (or not)
>>>
>>> Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this survey.
>>
>>
>> I was voter #5!
>>
>> I'LL BE BACK!
>>
>> Andy
>
> I was voter #3
> I'll prolly never be as close to #1...
>
> Aloha...tutu


If we can just get Cathy to release regularly scheduled surveys!

Andy

In article >, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
>Vote now! (or not)
>
>Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this survey.

I have to confess I hold my knife and fork in my hands.

Do you know some other way, Chatty?

Cheers, Phred.

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In article om>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> On Aug 5, 8:28?am, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article .com>,
> >
> > Sheldon > wrote:
> > > On Aug 5, 8:05?am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> > > >http://www.recfoodcooking.com
> >
> > > > Vote now! (or not)
> >
> > > I win a beanie!
> >
> > > Sheldon
> >
> > Ya bum! :-)
> > Since when do you use chopsticks for every meal?
>
> Didn't have "Other"... I rarely bother with a knife at the table, with
> meats I just use a fork, I typically stab n' gnaw (kinda like chop
> sticks. And for location didn't have Noo Yawk.

You don't consider New York to be part of the USA I take it? ;-)
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In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

> Norma Mastenbrook said...
>
> > Andy wrote:
> >> ChattyCathy said...
> >>
> >>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
> >>>
> >>> Vote now! (or not)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this survey.
> >>
> >>
> >> I was voter #5!
> >>
> >> I'LL BE BACK!
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > I was voter #3
> > I'll prolly never be as close to #1...
> >
> > Aloha...tutu
>
>
> If we can just get Cathy to release regularly scheduled surveys!
>
> Andy

That would not be any fun!
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:

>>> Andy wrote:


>>
>> If we can just get Cathy to release regularly scheduled surveys!

>
> That would not be any fun!

Zactly! I have to keep 'em guessing, or the TFH awards would go to the
"same people" all the time

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Omelet said...

> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Norma Mastenbrook said...
>>
>> > Andy wrote:
>> >> ChattyCathy said...
>> >>
>> >>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>> >>>
>> >>> Vote now! (or not)
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this
survey.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I was voter #5!
>> >>
>> >> I'LL BE BACK!
>> >>
>> >> Andy
>> >
>> > I was voter #3
>> > I'll prolly never be as close to #1...
>> >
>> > Aloha...tutu
>>
>>
>> If we can just get Cathy to release regularly scheduled surveys!
>>
>> Andy
>
> That would not be any fun!


I 'spose not!

Andy

Phred wrote:
> In article >, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>
>> Vote now! (or not)
>>
>> Thanks go to a member of the Cabal (TINC) for suggesting this survey.
>
> I have to confess I hold my knife and fork in my hands.
>
> Do you know some other way, Chatty?

Yabut - which hand holds which - or do you hold both in one hand?

Have another beer, Phred

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Julia Altshuler wrote:
> (snipperdoodles)
>
> I'm curious about how we learn these things. I don't recall my parents
> ever showing me how a knife and fork were used specifically. They'd
> correct me at the table if I did anything overtly disgusting, but they
> were lax about specifics. I do remember a time in elementary school
> when I was eating with a friend. I was holding my fork in my left fist
> and having trouble managing the meat. My friend's mother showed me how
> to hold the fork correctly. Other than that, I think I learned
> everything from observation. Now it's so ingrained that I'd have
> trouble using another method.
>
> --Lia

I recall being told to switch hands with my knife and fork. Knife in
left hand, fork in right, then cut the food. Then switch the fork to
the right hand and eat. That always seemed inefficient to me, but as a
kid when I tried to eat European style with the fork in my left hand (I
had copied a recent European house guest), my grandmother made point to
correct me. I always did what my grandmother told me to do as a kid,
especially at her dinner table <g>.

Sky

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Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
>
> I'm curious about how we learn these things. I don't recall my parents
> ever showing me how a knife and fork were used specifically. They'd
> correct me at the table if I did anything overtly disgusting, but they
> were lax about specifics. I do remember a time in elementary school
> when I was eating with a friend. I was holding my fork in my left fist
> and having trouble managing the meat. My friend's mother showed me how
> to hold the fork correctly. Other than that, I think I learned
> everything from observation. Now it's so ingrained that I'd have
> trouble using another method.
>

I think we just "do what our parents do" without really thinking about
it, and that's what we get used to. Even though my Mom is "left handed"
in every other aspect, she still uses her knife and fork the way most
right-handed people do to cut up her food. I suppose her parents did it
that way, so she did it too. She says she can't cut her food properly if
she holds the knife in her left hand and the fork in the right And she
doesn't "switch" to eat her food once its cut up either...
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Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >
> > I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
>
> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
> knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
> eat my food...

It works for me. When I eat food that requires a knife, it goes in the
right hand and I use the fork in the left. When I eat food that doesn't
require a knife, the fork is in my right hand. Of course, then there's
soup.

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
>> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
>> knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
>> eat my food...
>
> It works for me. When I eat food that requires a knife, it goes in the
> right hand and I use the fork in the left. When I eat food that doesn't
> require a knife, the fork is in my right hand. Of course, then there's
> soup.

Yup. We have spoons for soup. So which hand do you use your soup spoon
in?

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Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
>>
>> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand,
>> and my knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them
>> around to eat my food...
>
> It works for me. When I eat food that requires a knife, it goes in
> the right hand and I use the fork in the left. When I eat food that
> doesn't require a knife, the fork is in my right hand. Of course,
> then there's soup.

yes I use my knife and fork like that too. If I have food that doesn't have
a knife, my fork is in my right hand as is a spoon

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
>>
>> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
>> knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
>> eat my food...
>
> It works for me. When I eat food that requires a knife, it goes in the
> right hand and I use the fork in the left. When I eat food that doesn't
> require a knife, the fork is in my right hand. Of course, then there's
> soup.

Which hand do you hold the fork in for soup?

In article >,
Julia Altshuler > wrote:


> I wish there were a way on the survey to trace who is from where and who
> switches their fork back and forth. I'm from the U.S. and learned the
> switching method: fork goes in left hand to cut, then in the right hand
> to bring the food to the mouth. Jim's from Canada. He learned the
> non-switching method: fork stays in left for cutting and transporting.
> I always feel like an idiot when dining with his family. Their method
> is so efficient and neat, but when I've tried to learn it, I find it
> tricky. It would take practice. (His family has never said a word
> about my manners or lack. It's just 2 methods, both acceptable.)

Sometimes people forget just how hard it is to change which hand is used
for what. Try writing with your other hand! I've seen this with mice,
also. Not the animal, the computer tracking device. People who try to
use their non-dominant hand to drive the mouse look very incompetent. I
worked with an accountant like that. He worked there a long time. His
right hand was reserved for his ten key, and he was good at it. He
didn't have to look at the keys, he knew them by touch. As accounting
got more and more computerized, and navigation got more mouse-driven, he
had more and more problems trying to use the mouse with his left hand.
His subordinates would sometimes order him out of his chair and do the
computer work themselves because they couldn't stand to watch him fumble
around.

Dan Abel wrote:


> It works for me. When I eat food that requires a knife, it goes in
> the right hand and I use the fork in the left. When I eat food that
> doesn't require a knife, the fork is in my right hand.

Yep.



Brian

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In article >,
"SusanWilliams" > wrote:

> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > ChattyCathy > wrote:
> >
> >> Nancy Young wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
> >>
> >> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
> >> knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
> >> eat my food...
> >
> > It works for me. When I eat food that requires a knife, it goes in the
> > right hand and I use the fork in the left. When I eat food that doesn't
> > require a knife, the fork is in my right hand. Of course, then there's
> > soup.
>
> Which hand do you hold the fork in for soup?

The fork goes behind my left ear, and the knife behind my right ear.
That way I'm all set if something in the soup requires cutting. While
I'm cutting, the spoon goes between my toes.

:=)

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Dan Abel wrote:

> > require a knife, the fork is in my right hand. Of course, then there's
> > soup.
>
> Yup. We have spoons for soup. So which hand do you use your soup spoon
> in?

Right.

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm curious about how we learn these things. I don't recall my parents
>> ever showing me how a knife and fork were used specifically. They'd
>> correct me at the table if I did anything overtly disgusting, but they
>> were lax about specifics. I do remember a time in elementary school when
>> I was eating with a friend. I was holding my fork in my left fist and
>> having trouble managing the meat. My friend's mother showed me how to
>> hold the fork correctly. Other than that, I think I learned everything
>> from observation. Now it's so ingrained that I'd have trouble using
>> another method.
>>
>
> I think we just "do what our parents do" without really thinking about it,
> and that's what we get used to. Even though my Mom is "left handed" in
> every other aspect, she still uses her knife and fork the way most
> right-handed people do to cut up her food. I suppose her parents did it
> that way, so she did it too. She says she can't cut her food properly if
> she holds the knife in her left hand and the fork in the right And she
> doesn't "switch" to eat her food once its cut up either...
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy
>
> Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible
>

my family's always been the fork in left hand, knife in right, no switching
(I'm born and raised in Australia, European parents), which I continue

we always got corrected when we were kids

setting the table, fork on left, knife on right, spoon to the right of the
knife, napkin usually under the knife, no bread plates (you just don't see
those in the Italian households I've been part of)

cheers
MG

ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >
> > I switch. 99% of the time, anyway.
>
> Isn't that a bit "time consuming"? I use my fork in my left hand, and my
> knife in my right - always. Never had the need to switch them around to
> eat my food...
>
> And I should have asked the contributor to add one more question:
>
> When "laying the table" for dinner - where do you place the knife and
> fork?
>
> Fork on the left and knife on the right
> Knife on the left and fork on the right

Switching the fork back and forth is an American thing, and very common in
Canada too. I faintly recall a movie about an American in occupied Europe
who is found out, or almost found out, when eating in a restaurant when
someone notices him using his left hand to hold the fork while cutting and
then switching the fork to the right hand.

Omelet wrote:

>
> I was the second voter...
>
> <sigh>
>
> Too bad there are no runner ups.

"History never remembers who came in second."

;-)
gloria p
who will award you a token foil hat

>
> I switch the fork to the right hand to eat without even thinking about
> it.
> --
> Peace, Om

I'm just the opposite. I keep the fork in the left hand; it comes natural
to me.

Dee Dee