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[email protected] 07-08-2007 03:55 PM

What is it with spices?
 

Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?

Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
pungency.

And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
was unable to find this information.

Help, and thanks.


cybercat 07-08-2007 04:20 PM

What is it with spices?
 

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>
> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
> personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
> bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
> pungency.
>
> And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
> was unable to find this information.
>
> Help, and thanks.
>


I have never seen them used interchangeably, they're completely different
spices. Cayenne is just heat. Chili powder has some chili peppers in it but
more cumin and other 'mexican' kinds of spices, it's good for making
chili or taco meat. Paprika is Hungarian, if I recall correctly. To be
honest,
I have only used it on deviled eggs.



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Jessica V. 07-08-2007 04:21 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Aug 7, 10:55 am, wrote:
> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>
> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
> personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
> bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
> pungency.
>
> And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
> was unable to find this information.
>
> Help, and thanks.


Chili powder is usually a commercial blend oh herbs, spices, onion &
garlic powder and a lot of salt used for seasoning chili.

Paprika is dried ground red bell pepper (capsicum), coming in many
varieties, mos commonly called for are sweet, hot or smoked.

Cayenne or red pepper is dried ground cayenne peppers.

Jessica


[email protected] 07-08-2007 04:25 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On 7 Aug, 16:21, "Jessica V." > wrote:
> On Aug 7, 10:55 am, wrote:
> > know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
> > between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?

>
> Chili powder is usually a commercial blend oh herbs, spices, onion &
> garlic powder and a lot of salt used for seasoning chili.
>
> Paprika is dried ground red bell pepper (capsicum), coming in many
> varieties, mos commonly called for are sweet, hot or smoked.
>
> Cayenne or red pepper is dried ground cayenne peppers.


Thank you for clarifying this for me. I can now experiment with more
confidence!


Peter A 07-08-2007 04:32 PM

What is it with spices?
 
In article .com>,
says...
>
> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>
> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
> personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
> bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
> pungency.
>
> And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
> was unable to find this information.
>
> Help, and thanks.
>
>


Here's my take on this question.

All three items are ground chili peppers (except sometimes for "chili
powder" which may have additional spices, such as cumin, that are used
in making chili.

The terms CANNOT be used interchangeably.

Different kinds of peppers are used. I don't know all of their names,
but for chili powder you get certain peppers that are traditionally
grown in Mexico and the southwest US. For paprika it's Hungary and
Spain, mostly. For cayenne it's a specific pepper of that name (I
think).

Chili powder can be mild, medium, or hot. Cayenne is, in my experience,
always hot. Paprika is mild or medium, I have never experienced really
hot paprika.

Cayenne adds heat and not much else. Paprika adds heat (sometimes) and a
pepper flavor. Chili powder adds heat and a different chili flavor.

So, there's no guaranteed way to get dishes just as hot as you want.
Find a few brands that you like and experiment with them.


--
Peter Aitken

George[_1_] 07-08-2007 04:49 PM

What is it with spices?
 
Peter A wrote:
> In article .com>,
> says...
>> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
>> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>>
>> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
>> personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
>> bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
>> pungency.
>>
>> And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
>> was unable to find this information.
>>
>> Help, and thanks.
>>
>>

>
> Here's my take on this question.
>
> All three items are ground chili peppers (except sometimes for "chili
> powder" which may have additional spices, such as cumin, that are used
> in making chili.
>


Paprika is made by grinding sweet red bell peppers.


> The terms CANNOT be used interchangeably.
>
> Different kinds of peppers are used. I don't know all of their names,
> but for chili powder you get certain peppers that are traditionally
> grown in Mexico and the southwest US. For paprika it's Hungary and
> Spain, mostly. For cayenne it's a specific pepper of that name (I
> think).
>
> Chili powder can be mild, medium, or hot. Cayenne is, in my experience,
> always hot. Paprika is mild or medium, I have never experienced really
> hot paprika.
>
> Cayenne adds heat and not much else. Paprika adds heat (sometimes) and a
> pepper flavor. Chili powder adds heat and a different chili flavor.
>
> So, there's no guaranteed way to get dishes just as hot as you want.
> Find a few brands that you like and experiment with them.
>
>


Peter A 07-08-2007 04:59 PM

What is it with spices?
 
In article >,
lid says...

>
> Paprika is made by grinding sweet red bell peppers.
>


How is it, then, that some paprika is quite hot?

--
Peter Aitken

George[_1_] 07-08-2007 05:08 PM

What is it with spices?
 
The Cook wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:49:16 -0400, George >
> wrote:
>
>> Peter A wrote:
>>> In article .com>,
>>> says...
>>>> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
>>>> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>>>> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>>>>
>>>> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
>>>> personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
>>>> bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
>>>> pungency.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
>>>> was unable to find this information.
>>>>
>>>> Help, and thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Here's my take on this question.
>>>
>>> All three items are ground chili peppers (except sometimes for "chili
>>> powder" which may have additional spices, such as cumin, that are used
>>> in making chili.
>>>

>> Paprika is made by grinding sweet red bell peppers.
>>

> Paprika is made by grinding dried Paprika peppers. Check out the seed
> catalogs.


I have visited distant relatives a number of times in Hungary and what
is now the Czech Republic and saw fields of red bell peppers destined to
become paprika according to my relatives.

It seems it can be made from various red peppers:

PAPRIKA


Paprika is a spice that is often overlooked by cooks. The only time
we think of paprika is when we make potato salad or chicken, using the
spice for color to make drab dishes look alive. But paprika is an
interesting spice that can be used for much more than a coloring agent.
Paprika is a red powder that is made from grinding the dried pods of
mild varieties of the pepper plant known as (Capsicum annuum L.) The
pepper plants used to make this spice range from the sweet Bell pepper
to the milder chili peppers. The Paprika peppers originally grown were
hot. Over time, they have evolved to the milder varieties. In Hungary
there are six classes or types of paprika ranging from delicate to hot.
The peppers also range in size and shape depending on where they are
grown . Some are grown in Spain, Hungary, California and other parts of
the U.S. The most commonly produced paprika is made from the sweet red
pepper also called the tomato pepper.

http://www.foodreference.com/html/artpaprika.html

George[_1_] 07-08-2007 05:12 PM

What is it with spices?
 
Peter A wrote:
> In article >,
> lid says...
>
>> Paprika is made by grinding sweet red bell peppers.
>>

>
> How is it, then, that some paprika is quite hot?
>



My statement was too sweeping. The majority of paprika is made from red
bell peppers. The hotter stuff is the small fraction that is made from
hotter peppers.

The Cook 07-08-2007 05:49 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:49:16 -0400, George >
wrote:

>Peter A wrote:
>> In article .com>,
>> says...
>>> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
>>> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>>> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>>>
>>> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
>>> personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
>>> bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
>>> pungency.
>>>
>>> And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
>>> was unable to find this information.
>>>
>>> Help, and thanks.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Here's my take on this question.
>>
>> All three items are ground chili peppers (except sometimes for "chili
>> powder" which may have additional spices, such as cumin, that are used
>> in making chili.
>>

>
>Paprika is made by grinding sweet red bell peppers.
>

Paprika is made by grinding dried Paprika peppers. Check out the seed
catalogs.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Dee Dee 07-08-2007 06:11 PM

What is it with spices?
 

>
> Paprika only comes from paprika peppers. Anything else is not
> paprika. They are a specific variety, and range in pungency just
> like Hatch chiles.
>
> They are not the common red bell peppers found here in the
> states.
>
> -sw


I agree, though I probably am not that well informed; but I did one season
grow some seeds from the paprika peppers. They indeed were different than
any common red bell pepper I've seen, raised or eaten.
Dee Dee



The Joneses[_1_] 07-08-2007 06:18 PM

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"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
>>
>> Paprika only comes from paprika peppers. Anything else is not
>> paprika. They are a specific variety, and range in pungency just
>> like Hatch chiles.
>>
>> They are not the common red bell peppers found here in the
>> states.
>>
>> -sw

>
> I agree, though I probably am not that well informed; but I did one season
> grow some seeds from the paprika peppers. They indeed were different than
> any common red bell pepper I've seen, raised or eaten.
> Dee Dee

I've grown both kinds and they are readily available here in season. Paprika
peppers are thicker fleshed and less roundy than bell peppers and are
inclined to be a bit smaller. I think they have a fuller sort of pepper
flavor. The mild paprika I've tasted fresh is about 10 on the Scoville scale
where bell peppers are 0 and jalapeņos are 5,000. But some paprikas are hot.
Depends on the variety and growing conditions.
Edrena, in chile country.



Cindy Hamilton 07-08-2007 06:45 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Aug 7, 10:55 am, wrote:
> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>
> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
> personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
> bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
> pungency.


Although some other posters have given definitions for "chilli
powder",
they have done so from an American perspective, which I am not sure
is really appropriate for you.

I imagine that recipes calling for "chilli" powder (rather than
"chili" powder)
are calling for ground hot capsicum pods. (I'm using the word
capsicum
to avoid overloading the word chile or chilli.)

In the U.S. there is a mixture called "chili powder" which is used for
making
chile con carne. It can vary in hotness.

Paprika is as described upthread, although I can't recall if anyone
mentioned
that there is hot paprika and sweet paprika. Hot paprika is
reasonably hot,
and carries the dictinct flavor of paprika. Sweet paprika has the
paprika taste
without the hotness.

Any ground capsicum pod can lose some potency with age.

Cindy Hamilton


The Joneses[_1_] 07-08-2007 07:24 PM

What is it with spices?
 
"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:18:09 -0600, "The Joneses" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paprika only comes from paprika peppers. Anything else is not
>>>> paprika. They are a specific variety, and range in pungency just
>>>> like Hatch chiles.
>>>>
>>>> They are not the common red bell peppers found here in the
>>>> states.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> I agree, though I probably am not that well informed; but I did one
>>> season
>>> grow some seeds from the paprika peppers. They indeed were different
>>> than
>>> any common red bell pepper I've seen, raised or eaten.
>>> Dee Dee

>>I've grown both kinds and they are readily available here in season.
>>Paprika
>>peppers are thicker fleshed and less roundy than bell peppers and are
>>inclined to be a bit smaller. I think they have a fuller sort of pepper
>>flavor. The mild paprika I've tasted fresh is about 10 on the Scoville
>>scale
>>where bell peppers are 0 and jalapeņos are 5,000. But some paprikas are
>>hot.
>>Depends on the variety and growing conditions.
>>Edrena, in chile country.
>>

> That does not sound like the paprika I am growing this year. I am
> growing the Paprika Supreme Hybrid. It is long and thin skinned. I
> am also growing Pimento L. It looks more like what you described.
> Both of these are shown here.
> https://www.totallytomato.com/ttsite...rentItemPage=3
>
> Of course they keep changing things around so that nobody can keep
> track of what is what.
> --
> Susan N.
>

I agree. It's a conspiracy. Started with Columbus who called allspice trees
in central America pimento. I believe that this is a Botanists' Bane. People
calling plants whatever they want... My herbal books have several very
different herbs that are frequently called the same word. Doesn't help that
the chiles are all frisky and cross-pollinate with wild abandon. Heathens.
Edrena





The Cook 07-08-2007 07:46 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:18:09 -0600, "The Joneses" >
wrote:

>
>"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>
>>> Paprika only comes from paprika peppers. Anything else is not
>>> paprika. They are a specific variety, and range in pungency just
>>> like Hatch chiles.
>>>
>>> They are not the common red bell peppers found here in the
>>> states.
>>>
>>> -sw

>>
>> I agree, though I probably am not that well informed; but I did one season
>> grow some seeds from the paprika peppers. They indeed were different than
>> any common red bell pepper I've seen, raised or eaten.
>> Dee Dee

>I've grown both kinds and they are readily available here in season. Paprika
>peppers are thicker fleshed and less roundy than bell peppers and are
>inclined to be a bit smaller. I think they have a fuller sort of pepper
>flavor. The mild paprika I've tasted fresh is about 10 on the Scoville scale
>where bell peppers are 0 and jalapeņos are 5,000. But some paprikas are hot.
>Depends on the variety and growing conditions.
>Edrena, in chile country.
>

That does not sound like the paprika I am growing this year. I am
growing the Paprika Supreme Hybrid. It is long and thin skinned. I
am also growing Pimento L. It looks more like what you described.
Both of these are shown here.
https://www.totallytomato.com/ttsite...rentItemPage=3

Of course they keep changing things around so that nobody can keep
track of what is what.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Melba's Jammin' 07-08-2007 09:37 PM

What is it with spices?
 
In article .com>,
wrote:

> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>
> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably, but when I have
> personally _treated_ them as being interchangeable, I either get a
> bland meal or a hitherto unknown biological weapon of unparalleled
> pungency.
>
> And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
> was unable to find this information.
>
> Help, and thanks.


I believe one part of the deal is the kind of pepper involved. They are
NOT equal.

I've "dusted" cayenne atop a dish to add a bit of color and have been
regretful of the decision. My food co-op carries two cayennes with
different Scoville ratings; chili powder is a combination of spices,
including peppers. Paprika comes in different variations, too: sweet
(made from sweet peppers, maybe), half sharp.

Check
www.penzeys.com and look up each kind to see what they say about
each.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com - story and
pics of Ronald McDonald House dinner posted 6-24-2007

Victor Sack[_1_] 07-08-2007 10:53 PM

What is it with spices?
 
> wrote:

> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?


Chilli powder, paprika and cayenne are all different and certainly
cannot be used interchangeably. Chilli (or chili) powder is a mixture
of some chile pepper and various other additions, such as cumin.
Paprika and cayenne are different capsicum species/cultivars. Moreover,
there are no fewer than seven different kinds of Hungarian paprika
alone.

> And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
> was unable to find this information.


The information can be found there, just indirectly. The FAQ contains a
link to Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, probably the best and most
comprehensive collection of information on spices, whether on the Net or
elsewhere. See <http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/index.html>.

As to faqs.org, the site is dead and hasn't been updated since April
2004. Kent Landfield, its maintainer, has disappeared without a trace.
The domain is registered and paid for until 2012. The registrant is one
Lech Mazur and people have been unsuccessfully trying to e-mail and
otherwise contact him. The site needs to be either taken down or given
to someone who is both capable and willing to maintain it.

Victor

sf[_3_] 08-08-2007 12:55 AM

What is it with spices?
 
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:37:49 -0500, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:55:38 -0700,
>wrote:
>
>> Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
>> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>>
>> Some people seem to use these terms interchangeably,

>
>They're not using them interchangeably, that's just your
>misconception. They're *specifically* using those
>ingredients/terms.
>
>Just because they're all red powders doesn't mean they're the
>same.
>

He's from the UK.... they interchange those terms all the time, so
it's no wonder he's confused.



--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

Sheldon 08-08-2007 01:21 AM

What is it with spices?
 
(Victor Sack) wrote:
> > wrote:
> > Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
> > know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
> > between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?

>
> Chilli powder, paprika and cayenne are all different and certainly
> cannot be used interchangeably. Chilli (or chili) powder is a mixture
> of some chile pepper and various other additions, such as cumin.
> Paprika and cayenne are different capsicum species/cultivars. Moreover,
> there are no fewer than seven different kinds of Hungarian paprika
> alone.
>
> > And yes, I've read the FAQ for this esteemed froup at faqs.org, but
> > was unable to find this information.

>
> The information can be found there, just indirectly. The FAQ contains a
> link to Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages, probably the best and most
> comprehensive collection of information on spices, whether on the Net or
> elsewhere. See <http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/index.html>.



Chili powder is a blend of various spices and herbs; typically ancho
pepper (very mild heat, rich deep color), cumin, Mexican oregano,
garlic, and some hot pepper (cayenne) if heat is desired... the better
chili powders contain NO salt. Cayenne is an individual spice (of
which various cultivars exist), as is paprika (of which various
cultivars exist). Penzeys claims over 40 types of Hungarian paprika.

Penzeys.com

Paprika
"Not only does Hungary have the abundance of sunshine needed to grow
the world's best paprika, it also has knowledgeable farmers capable of
nurturing the crop from planting to harvest. In Hungary more than
*forty* types of paprika are grown. The farmers determine which type
will produce the sweetest, most colorful crop based on their weather
predictions for the coming year. The quality of the paprika in this
year's crop will depend on how much sunlight Southern and Eastern
Hungary receive in the weeks before the harvest. Hungarian Paprika is
great for not only adding vibrant color, but rich pleasing flavor to
traditional dishes like Hungarian Goulash. Hungarian Sweet Paprika
also enhances simple baked chicken. Californian paprika is deep red,
mild and sweet, nice for chicken but browns with long cooking."

Here is an excellent source for chile peppers:
http://www.g6csy.net/chile/index.html

Btw, my recipe produces the best chili in this solar system, probably
the entire milky way.

Sheldon



Blair P. Houghton 08-08-2007 03:58 AM

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> wrote:
>
>Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
>know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?


Chile powder is powdered chile peppers.

Chili powder is a mixture of chile powder and other seasonings.
It's meant to be used to make chili.

Paprika and ground cayenne are powders of particular chile peppers.
But paprika can also be a mixture of similar peppers. Sometimes
paprika includes cayenne in the mix.

--Blair

modom (palindrome guy)[_2_] 08-08-2007 05:21 AM

What is it with spices?
 
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:55:38 -0700, wrote:

>
>Would a member of the Inner Circle (since surely, only the Enlightened
>know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>

I'm certain others will have answered this better than I, but here
goes. Paprika and cayenne are both sold as powders made from dried
chiles. By "chiles" I mean the fruit of one variety of capsicum or
another. In my house, I have two kinds of Spanish smoked paprika, one
is sweet and one is hot. But the hot one isn't as hot as the cayenne
powder I also have. Cayenne is very hot. Incidentally, I also have a
Hungarian paprika in my pantry that's not smoked and isn't hot,
although I'm aware of hot Hungarian paprika's existence.

Chili powder (with a final "i", not a final "e" in Texas, at least) is
a blend of ground chiles mixed with other flavoring agents like cumin,
oregano, and often salt. It is said to date from the 1880s or 90s
when DeWitt Clinton Pendery in Fort Worth began selling a pre made mix
of spices for making Texas red chili. Some people say it was Gebhardt
down in New Braunfels, TX who was the first to sell chili powder. I
don't know. I wasn't there.

Adding to the soup, of course, is the fact that scores of chiles (with
a final "e", not a final "i") can also be purchased as ground
products. Anchos, chipotles, aji amarillos, cascabels, pequins, New
Mexico reds, and so on are all commercially available. For a big list
of dried chiles for sale check :
http://www.penderys.com/
--

modom

--
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jmcquown 08-08-2007 03:41 PM

What is it with spices?
 
wrote:
> On 7 Aug, 16:21, "Jessica V." > wrote:
>> On Aug 7, 10:55 am, wrote:
>>> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>>> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?

>>
>> Chili powder is usually a commercial blend oh herbs, spices, onion &
>> garlic powder and a lot of salt used for seasoning chili.
>>
>> Paprika is dried ground red bell pepper (capsicum), coming in many
>> varieties, mos commonly called for are sweet, hot or smoked.
>>
>> Cayenne or red pepper is dried ground cayenne peppers.

>
> Thank you for clarifying this for me. I can now experiment with more
> confidence!


Note: Cayenne peppers are extremely hot.

Jill



Phred 08-08-2007 04:24 PM

What is it with spices?
 
In article >, "jmcquown" > wrote:
wrote:
>> On 7 Aug, 16:21, "Jessica V." > wrote:
>>> On Aug 7, 10:55 am, wrote:
>>>> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>>>> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>>>
>>> Chili powder is usually a commercial blend oh herbs, spices, onion &
>>> garlic powder and a lot of salt used for seasoning chili.
>>>
>>> Paprika is dried ground red bell pepper (capsicum), coming in many
>>> varieties, mos commonly called for are sweet, hot or smoked.
>>>
>>> Cayenne or red pepper is dried ground cayenne peppers.

>>
>> Thank you for clarifying this for me. I can now experiment with more
>> confidence!

>
>Note: Cayenne peppers are extremely hot.


All you buggers keep saying that, but I can't say I've noticed.
(Maybe I don't use enough of them; or maybe it's just they're not in
the same ball park as those little birdseye chillies?)

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID


jmcquown 08-08-2007 05:53 PM

What is it with spices?
 
Phred wrote:
> In article >, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> On 7 Aug, 16:21, "Jessica V." > wrote:
>>>> On Aug 7, 10:55 am, wrote:
>>>>> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>>>>> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>>>>
>>>> Chili powder is usually a commercial blend oh herbs, spices, onion
>>>> & garlic powder and a lot of salt used for seasoning chili.
>>>>
>>>> Paprika is dried ground red bell pepper (capsicum), coming in many
>>>> varieties, mos commonly called for are sweet, hot or smoked.
>>>>
>>>> Cayenne or red pepper is dried ground cayenne peppers.
>>>
>>> Thank you for clarifying this for me. I can now experiment with
>>> more confidence!

>>
>> Note: Cayenne peppers are extremely hot.

>
> All you buggers keep saying that, but I can't say I've noticed.
> (Maybe I don't use enough of them; or maybe it's just they're not in
> the same ball park as those little birdseye chillies?)
>
> Cheers, Phred.


If you're comparing "chili powder" which is, as has been pointed out,
actually an herb/spice blend, paprika and cayenne, cayenne wins hands down.
The OP didn't mention birdseye peppers. (I've never heard of them so
perhaps they aren't so common where I live.)



blake murphy 08-08-2007 07:53 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:53:06 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Phred wrote:
>> In article >, "jmcquown"
>> > wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 7 Aug, 16:21, "Jessica V." > wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 7, 10:55 am, wrote:
>>>>>> know these things intuitively) please explain to me the difference
>>>>>> between "chilli powder", "paprika", and "cayenne"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chili powder is usually a commercial blend oh herbs, spices, onion
>>>>> & garlic powder and a lot of salt used for seasoning chili.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paprika is dried ground red bell pepper (capsicum), coming in many
>>>>> varieties, mos commonly called for are sweet, hot or smoked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cayenne or red pepper is dried ground cayenne peppers.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for clarifying this for me. I can now experiment with
>>>> more confidence!
>>>
>>> Note: Cayenne peppers are extremely hot.

>>
>> All you buggers keep saying that, but I can't say I've noticed.
>> (Maybe I don't use enough of them; or maybe it's just they're not in
>> the same ball park as those little birdseye chillies?)
>>
>> Cheers, Phred.

>
>If you're comparing "chili powder" which is, as has been pointed out,
>actually an herb/spice blend, paprika and cayenne, cayenne wins hands down.
>The OP didn't mention birdseye peppers. (I've never heard of them so
>perhaps they aren't so common where I live.)
>


um, birdseye chillies are quite common in thailand, where you misspent
your youth and they eat no curries or dipping sauces. perhaps they
became a hot item, so to speak, after you left.

your pal,
blake

Christine Dabney 09-08-2007 05:22 AM

What is it with spices?
 
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:53:19 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote:


>um, birdseye chillies are quite common in thailand,


Yeah, those are the tiny little ones that you think can't possibly be
that hot, until you take a bite. And then the roof of your head comes
off. ;)

I first had these little chiles in some Thai dishes back in the mid
70s, in Washington DC. It was a little Thai restaurant on Connecticut
Ave, up close to Chevy Chase. I am not sure, but I think it was
called the Thai Room. It didn't have a liquor license then, so we
brought our own wine,etc.

I wonder if it is still there.....

Christine

Phred 09-08-2007 01:33 PM

What is it with spices?
 
In article >, Christine Dabney > wrote:
>On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:53:19 GMT, blake murphy >
>wrote:
>
>>um, birdseye chillies are quite common in thailand,

>
>Yeah, those are the tiny little ones that you think can't possibly be
>that hot, until you take a bite. And then the roof of your head comes
>off. ;)


Ah... You've met the right ones then! The damn things are feral
here. I've got small bushes of them all around the yard -- and a
fridge full of various vintages of chilli vinegar. (Some dried ones
too. :-)

Quite a few of the local birds are partial to the ripe fruit, so you
have to have a decent stash in case the bloody birds scoff the lot
just before you need a few!

>I first had these little chiles in some Thai dishes back in the mid
>70s, in Washington DC. It was a little Thai restaurant on Connecticut
>Ave, up close to Chevy Chase. I am not sure, but I think it was
>called the Thai Room. It didn't have a liquor license then, so we
>brought our own wine,etc.
>
>I wonder if it is still there.....


Cheers, Phred.

--
LID


jmcquown 09-08-2007 02:42 PM

What is it with spices?
 
Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:53:19 GMT, blake murphy >
> wrote:
>
>
>> um, birdseye chillies are quite common in thailand,

>
> Yeah, those are the tiny little ones that you think can't possibly be
> that hot, until you take a bite. And then the roof of your head comes
> off. ;)
>

Oh, is that what they're called? Those are the ones Dad used to grow on a
small bush in a pot in the kitchen by the glass doors. My ex-husband said
they couldn't possibly be hot because they were smaller than jalapenos
(which I don't find all that hot). So when he took a bite of one and his
head blew off, I didn't offer him a slice of bread or a glass of milk to
curb the burning. If he wanted to be an a$$hole, so be it. Here, have a
glass of ice water. (laughing)

Jill



blake murphy 09-08-2007 09:29 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:22:11 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:53:19 GMT, blake murphy >
>wrote:
>
>
>>um, birdseye chillies are quite common in thailand,

>
>Yeah, those are the tiny little ones that you think can't possibly be
>that hot, until you take a bite. And then the roof of your head comes
>off. ;)
>
>I first had these little chiles in some Thai dishes back in the mid
>70s, in Washington DC. It was a little Thai restaurant on Connecticut
>Ave, up close to Chevy Chase. I am not sure, but I think it was
>called the Thai Room. It didn't have a liquor license then, so we
>brought our own wine,etc.
>
>I wonder if it is still there.....
>
>Christine


it is indeed the thai room. i haven't been there in quite a while,
but it seems to still be there. [oops, according to *wash post*'s
food critic, it's now a pizza joint.]

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?node=cityguide/profile&id=1131542>

they had a branch downtown, 12 & g or so, near the warner theater.
they had taken over from some italian joint, so there were false
columns and paintings of roman gods on the wall, etc. that one's
gone.

the one on conn. ave had been there since god was a teenager, long
before the boom in thai food. good stuff.

what ****es me off about most of the newer thai places i've been to is
that they have no pork satay, only chicken. sissies. plus it's
bright yellow.

your pal,
blake



Christine Dabney 10-08-2007 02:38 AM

What is it with spices?
 
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:29:20 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote:

>the one on conn. ave had been there since god was a teenager, long
>before the boom in thai food. good stuff.
>


Oh gosh. I guess that really dates me.... It was newly opened when I
went there back in 1975-76. You are right...good stuff!!!!! It was
the first time I had ever had thai food, and I loved it. The chiles
sort of took me aback a bit..I wasn't used to such incendiary
stuff....

Christine

blake murphy 10-08-2007 07:51 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:38:47 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:29:20 GMT, blake murphy >
>wrote:
>
>>the one on conn. ave had been there since god was a teenager, long
>>before the boom in thai food. good stuff.
>>

>
>Oh gosh. I guess that really dates me.... It was newly opened when I
>went there back in 1975-76. You are right...good stuff!!!!! It was
>the first time I had ever had thai food, and I loved it. The chiles
>sort of took me aback a bit..I wasn't used to such incendiary
>stuff....
>
>Christine


well, maybe god was in his early thirties by that time...

your pal,
blake

Dee Dee 12-08-2007 08:51 PM

What is it with spices?
 

"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
> Since paprika peppers are not hot, I cut up a bunch this morning to
> start drying. No gloves. My fingers still burn.
> --
> Susan N.
>

Some people are more sensitive. DH can cut up peppers, but I can't without
gloves.

Were they easy to find? Or did you grow them?
Dee Dee




The Cook 12-08-2007 09:04 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:18:09 -0600, "The Joneses" >
wrote:

>
>"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>
>>> Paprika only comes from paprika peppers. Anything else is not
>>> paprika. They are a specific variety, and range in pungency just
>>> like Hatch chiles.
>>>
>>> They are not the common red bell peppers found here in the
>>> states.
>>>
>>> -sw

>>
>> I agree, though I probably am not that well informed; but I did one season
>> grow some seeds from the paprika peppers. They indeed were different than
>> any common red bell pepper I've seen, raised or eaten.
>> Dee Dee

>I've grown both kinds and they are readily available here in season. Paprika
>peppers are thicker fleshed and less roundy than bell peppers and are
>inclined to be a bit smaller. I think they have a fuller sort of pepper
>flavor. The mild paprika I've tasted fresh is about 10 on the Scoville scale
>where bell peppers are 0 and jalapeņos are 5,000. But some paprikas are hot.
>Depends on the variety and growing conditions.
>Edrena, in chile country.
>


Since paprika peppers are not hot, I cut up a bunch this morning to
start drying. No gloves. My fingers still burn.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Dee Dee 12-08-2007 09:34 PM

What is it with spices?
 

"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:51:58 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"The Cook" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> Since paprika peppers are not hot, I cut up a bunch this morning to
>>> start drying. No gloves. My fingers still burn.
>>> --
>>> Susan N.
>>>

>>Some people are more sensitive. DH can cut up peppers, but I can't without
>>gloves.
>>
>>Were they easy to find? Or did you grow them?
>>Dee Dee
>>
>>

> I grew them.
> --
> Susan N.


Are you going to use them for anything in particular, or are they just for
all purpose cooking that you do?
Dee Dee



The Cook 12-08-2007 10:14 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:51:58 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"The Cook" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Since paprika peppers are not hot, I cut up a bunch this morning to
>> start drying. No gloves. My fingers still burn.
>> --
>> Susan N.
>>

>Some people are more sensitive. DH can cut up peppers, but I can't without
>gloves.
>
>Were they easy to find? Or did you grow them?
>Dee Dee
>
>

I grew them.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

The Cook 12-08-2007 11:59 PM

What is it with spices?
 
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:34:21 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"The Cook" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:51:58 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Since paprika peppers are not hot, I cut up a bunch this morning to
>>>> start drying. No gloves. My fingers still burn.
>>>> --
>>>> Susan N.
>>>>
>>>Some people are more sensitive. DH can cut up peppers, but I can't without
>>>gloves.
>>>
>>>Were they easy to find? Or did you grow them?
>>>Dee Dee
>>>
>>>

>> I grew them.
>> --
>> Susan N.

>
>Are you going to use them for anything in particular, or are they just for
>all purpose cooking that you do?
>Dee Dee
>


Actually right now I am drying some and will make paprika powder with
it. I used some of the green in salsa yesterday.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Raison de Calcul 14-02-2008 12:24 PM

What is it with spices?
 
Spanish smoked paprika. My god.

It's a type of paprika. I also got some of the whole smoked peppers,
which I'm excited to use. (these:
http://worldspice.com/spices/0324smokedcherry.shtml).

It's not spicy. It's like eating an entire barbecued meal at once. I've
never found myself craving a spice before this.

Apparently it's smoked over a fire for days and days to get this
wonderful flavor. And it's a completely different thing from cayenne
pepper or chili powder. Or just plain "paprika".

Raison


Miche[_3_] 14-02-2008 06:57 PM

What is it with spices?
 
In article <2008021404242975249-admin@andersaamodtname>,
Raison de Calcul > wrote:

> Spanish smoked paprika. My god.
>
> It's a type of paprika. I also got some of the whole smoked peppers,
> which I'm excited to use. (these:
> http://worldspice.com/spices/0324smokedcherry.shtml).
>
> It's not spicy. It's like eating an entire barbecued meal at once. I've
> never found myself craving a spice before this.
>
> Apparently it's smoked over a fire for days and days to get this
> wonderful flavor. And it's a completely different thing from cayenne
> pepper or chili powder. Or just plain "paprika".


OH yes. It's quite something, isn't it! I adore smoked paprika, and
you've inspired me to make my "******* goulash" tonight just so I can
use it.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

Steve Pope 14-02-2008 07:31 PM

What is it with spices?
 
Miche > wrote:

> Raison de Calcul > wrote:


>> Spanish smoked paprika. My god.


>OH yes. It's quite something, isn't it! I adore smoked paprika, and
>you've inspired me to make my "******* goulash" tonight just so I can
>use it.


It's great stuff, but it really stands out in a dish and
I find if I use it more than once or twice a week, the
smoked paprika flavor becomes over-familiar in a way that isn't
pleasing. Hard to explain, since I like any kind of pepper
and most kinds of smoked stuff, but the flavor can wear out
on me.

It's not like, for example, garlic which you can use multiple
times per day and never get tired of.

Steve

Miche[_3_] 14-02-2008 09:19 PM

What is it with spices?
 
In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Miche > wrote:
>
> > Raison de Calcul > wrote:

>
> >> Spanish smoked paprika. My god.

>
> >OH yes. It's quite something, isn't it! I adore smoked paprika, and
> >you've inspired me to make my "******* goulash" tonight just so I can
> >use it.

>
> It's great stuff, but it really stands out in a dish and
> I find if I use it more than once or twice a week, the
> smoked paprika flavor becomes over-familiar in a way that isn't
> pleasing. Hard to explain, since I like any kind of pepper
> and most kinds of smoked stuff, but the flavor can wear out
> on me.


No, I understand. I tend to use smoked paprika as an accent rather than
a major flavouring, but even then not very often.

> It's not like, for example, garlic which you can use multiple
> times per day and never get tired of.


Garlic is a vegetable, not a spice. ;)

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases


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