On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:21:13 -1000, wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:41:12 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>Can you ship to other states? Customers would sample Hawaiian
>>avocados out of state and start demanding them at home.
>>
>>sf
>>Hass lover
>
>No, as I posted earlier in the thread to Sheldon:
>
>"I agree, I have had horrid avocados on the mainland, just horrid.And
>when you think of Hass, remember Clavado- a PAC supported by all the
>Hass growers in CA who are protecting their crop.
>
>If we were allowed to send our good Kona Avocados (avos grow wild here
>in Kona and some, along the roads, are just junk) to CA and to other
>parts of the mainland, you would enjoy the taste difference, BUT CA
>and its Calvado won't let us ship from Hawaii, crying about the "fruit
>fly" issue.Ha, they are just protecting their tiny Hass and its
>industry.
>
>Avocados aren't necessary but if you could taste a Kahaluu, you would
>enjoy it for its flavor alone."
>
>We can't send any out of the State of Hawaii because of Dept of Ag
>regulations-thanks to Calvado, sorrowfully.
>
So, it's actually Hawaii that's preventing commercial avocado farmers
from sending them out of state? I don't understand how California's
ban can have an influence other states, especially those with real
winters.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:37:31 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:21:13 -1000, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:41:12 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>Can you ship to other states? Customers would sample Hawaiian
>>>avocados out of state and start demanding them at home.
>>>
>>>sf
>>>Hass lover
>>

>>
>So, it's actually Hawaii that's preventing commercial avocado farmers
>from sending them out of state? I don't understand how California's
>ban can have an influence other states, especially those with real
>winters.

I think, that CA exerted enough pressure on our State to ban them from
going anywhere. I think there is a very small loophole to Alaska
only. On a plane that makes no stops- sounds to bureaucratic and I
don't know anyone who manages to meet all that criteria.

It is all so silly but that Calvado is mighty powerful. And if Soyuz
know farmers ---without a PAC (political Action Committee) behind
them, they'll try but the effort gets to be too much- they'd rather be
outside looking at plants.

aloha,
Cea
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:52:25 -0600, Kathleen
> wrote:

>Omelet wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>
>Shame on you, Om! Excess weight adds wear and tear on the joints and
>body systems.
>
>It's not like she's driving herself up to Taco Bell while you're at
>work. Switch her kibble, cut her ration or ramp up her exercise time.
>You can help her feel full by adding fresh, frozen or canned fruits and
>veggies to her ration.
>
>During the off season I switch my dogs from Diamond Adult Premium to
>Diamond Adult Maintenance formula to avoid having to decrease their
>serving sizes any further. As it is, Scully (30 lbs) gets 1/2 cup twice
>per day, Zane (40 lbs but much more active) gets 3/4 cup twice per day,
>and Cooper (14 lbs) gets 1/4 cup twice per day.

Oh miiiiii. First of all, she can leap up to a wall 4 feet high, from
a standing position. She is extremely healthy and can run like the
wind and does! We're farmers and out work is on our farm with Mollie.
Our vet just smiles and says avocados are almost as good for her, just
cut back on her Nature's Best. Well, Mollie gets only 1.5 cups per
day. We're watching her too. Thanks.

aloha,
Cea
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> Sheldon > wrote:
>
> > California harvests avocado all year, and along with Florida produces
> > more then enough avocados to supply all of the US all year,
>
> Sure - because nobody wants to buy them at $2 each - there's plenty
> to go around. As a rule, I don't spend more than $.50 for an
> avocado. And you can't buy a California avocado for $.50.
>
> -sw

Same here. To date, they've been $.50 each all winter so far, both at
Wal-mart and HEB. They generally come in from Mexico.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:58:45 -0600, Omelet >
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article >,
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >>>If there were any left after your border collie pigged out on all of
> >>>them... <g>
> >>
> >>Yes, Chubby Mollie the Border Collie. I just saw her look at one of
> >>her avocado stash areas and instead,she walked by to lay in the sun.
> >>Guess she's had enough for her mid-morning snack time.
> >>
> >>aloha,
> >>Cea
> >>roast beans to kona to email
> >> farmers of Pure Kona
> >
> >
> > Jewely is getting fatter due to winter. ;-) She spends more time in her
> > house instead of fence chasing cars...
> >
> > I'll bet she envies Molly her Avocado stash!
>
> Shame on you, Om! Excess weight adds wear and tear on the joints and
> body systems.
>
> It's not like she's driving herself up to Taco Bell while you're at
> work. Switch her kibble, cut her ration or ramp up her exercise time.
> You can help her feel full by adding fresh, frozen or canned fruits and
> veggies to her ration.

You don't understand... She's TOO skinny all summer! She's anything but
chubby now. I can still feel her ribs. ;-) Jewel's is looking good
right now and is anything but obese. I mis-spoke when I commented on her
being "fatter".

Sorry.

I have a full fenced yard and Jewely exercises herself, all day, every
day. During the summer to excess. I almost got in trouble with the
local shelter people for having a dog that was too skinny, even tho' she
has 24/7 free access to kibbles.

We UPPED her canned food ration to put more weight on her and even then,
it's been hard to keep her from looking like a greyhound.

Border collies are hyper.

Pic: http://i28.tinypic.com/2927dky.jpg
>
> During the off season I switch my dogs from Diamond Adult Premium to
> Diamond Adult Maintenance formula to avoid having to decrease their
> serving sizes any further. As it is, Scully (30 lbs) gets 1/2 cup twice
> per day, Zane (40 lbs but much more active) gets 3/4 cup twice per day,
> and Cooper (14 lbs) gets 1/4 cup twice per day.

The only dog I have an obesity problem with (we have 3 dogs) is the
corgie. I've tried to get dad to STOP feeding her canned food at night,
but he won't listen. :-( I need to take her to my Chiropractor and get
her back checked.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:42:58 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>Jewel's is looking good
>right now and is anything but obese. I mis-spoke when I commented on her
>being "fatter".

You over stated. It's not a crime.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:42:58 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >Jewel's is looking good
> >right now and is anything but obese. I mis-spoke when I commented on her
> >being "fatter".
>
> You over stated. It's not a crime.

Just wanted to clarify things... :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:21:13 -1000, wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:41:12 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:01:11 -1000, wrote:
>>
>>>If we were allowed to send our good Kona Avocados (avos grow wild here
>>>in Kona and some, along the roads, are just junk) to CA and to other
>>>parts of the mainland, you would enjoy the taste difference, BUT CA
>>>and its Calvado won't let us ship from Hawaii, crying about the "fruit
>>>fly" issue.Ha, they are just protecting their tiny Hass and its
>>>industry.
>>
>>Can you ship to other states? Customers would sample Hawaiian
>>avocados out of state and start demanding them at home.
>>
>>sf
>>Hass lover
>
> No, as I posted earlier in the thread to Sheldon:
>
> "I agree, I have had horrid avocados on the mainland, just horrid.And
> when you think of Hass, remember Clavado- a PAC supported by all the
> Hass growers in CA who are protecting their crop.
>
> If we were allowed to send our good Kona Avocados (avos grow wild here
> in Kona and some, along the roads, are just junk) to CA and to other
> parts of the mainland, you would enjoy the taste difference, BUT CA
> and its Calvado won't let us ship from Hawaii, crying about the "fruit
> fly" issue.Ha, they are just protecting their tiny Hass and its
> industry.
>
> Avocados aren't necessary but if you could taste a Kahaluu, you would
> enjoy it for its flavor alone."
>
> We can't send any out of the State of Hawaii because of Dept of Ag
> regulations-thanks to Calvado, sorrowfully.
>
> aloha,
> Cea
> roast beans to kona to email
> farmers of Pure Kona

you probably know more about this than me, but there are lots of
restrictions on bringing fruit to california, not just avocados. the
medfly issue is no joke:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medfly>

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:49:56 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:21:13 -1000, wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:41:12 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:01:11 -1000, wrote:
>.Ha, they are just protecting their tiny Hass and its
>> industry.
>>
>> Avocados aren't necessary but if you could taste a Kahaluu, you would
>> enjoy it for its flavor alone."
>>
>> We can't send any out of the State of Hawaii because of Dept of Ag
>> regulations-thanks to Calvado, sorrowfully.
>>

>
>you probably know more about this than me, but there are lots of
>restrictions on bringing fruit to california, not just avocados. the
>medfly issue is no joke:
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medfly>
>
>your pal,
>blake

Agreed Blake, the Mediterranean fruit fly is no joke but seriously we
believe that the ban it is mainly to protect the avocado industry of
CA. Calvado is a very wealthy PAC. They are afraid that if that ban
was lifted, we would flood the mainland with our superior avocados.

From Wikipidea ...." Under heavy pressure from the state's
agricultural industry, which believed that billions of dollars' worth
of crops were..."

The Med fly does not go after avocados- according to my SO who has a
deep interests in ag and in bugs. Here in Hawaii the med fly does not
let us grow tomatoes but we do have avocados!

aloha,
Cea
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

In article >,
wrote:

> >
> >you probably know more about this than me, but there are lots of
> >restrictions on bringing fruit to california, not just avocados. the
> >medfly issue is no joke:
> >
> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medfly>
> >
> >your pal,
> >blake
>
> Agreed Blake, the Mediterranean fruit fly is no joke but seriously we
> believe that the ban it is mainly to protect the avocado industry of
> CA. Calvado is a very wealthy PAC. They are afraid that if that ban
> was lifted, we would flood the mainland with our superior avocados.
>
> From Wikipidea ...." Under heavy pressure from the state's
> agricultural industry, which believed that billions of dollars' worth
> of crops were..."
>
> The Med fly does not go after avocados- according to my SO who has a
> deep interests in ag and in bugs. Here in Hawaii the med fly does not
> let us grow tomatoes but we do have avocados!
>

Washing fruits in hot soapy water kills fruit fly eggs. Dad is a banana
freak. Loves the things. We had a constant fruit fly problem until I
read HERE on this list about simply washing the fruits well as soon as
they came into the house since the eggs were usually ON the bananas.

I've had very few fruit flies in the house ever since. ;-) I'm pleased.

Changing the fruit processing procedures to include hot soapy water
would probably solve everybody's fruit fly problem.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:12:30 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>Washing fruits in hot soapy water kills fruit fly eggs. Dad is a banana
>freak. Loves the things. We had a constant fruit fly problem until I
>read HERE on this list about simply washing the fruits well as soon as
>they came into the house since the eggs were usually ON the bananas.
>
>I've had very few fruit flies in the house ever since. ;-) I'm pleased.
>
>Changing the fruit processing procedures to include hot soapy water
>would probably solve everybody's fruit fly problem.

The Mediterranean fruit fly is a field problem, not a house problem.
You don't have them in Texas.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:12:30 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >Washing fruits in hot soapy water kills fruit fly eggs. Dad is a banana
> >freak. Loves the things. We had a constant fruit fly problem until I
> >read HERE on this list about simply washing the fruits well as soon as
> >they came into the house since the eggs were usually ON the bananas.
> >
> >I've had very few fruit flies in the house ever since. ;-) I'm pleased.
> >
> >Changing the fruit processing procedures to include hot soapy water
> >would probably solve everybody's fruit fly problem.
>
> The Mediterranean fruit fly is a field problem, not a house problem.
> You don't have them in Texas.

Ok, but regular fruit flies are a pain in the ass if they are in the
house.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:

> Washing fruits in hot soapy water kills fruit fly eggs. Dad is a
> banana freak. Loves the things. We had a constant fruit fly
> problem until I read HERE on this list about simply washing the
> fruits well as soon as they came into the house since the eggs
> were usually ON the bananas.

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:00:45 -1000, wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:49:56 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:21:13 -1000, wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:41:12 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:01:11 -1000, wrote:
>>.Ha, they are just protecting their tiny Hass and its
>>> industry.
>>>
>>> Avocados aren't necessary but if you could taste a Kahaluu, you would
>>> enjoy it for its flavor alone."
>>>
>>> We can't send any out of the State of Hawaii because of Dept of Ag
>>> regulations-thanks to Calvado, sorrowfully.
>>>
>
>>
>>you probably know more about this than me, but there are lots of
>>restrictions on bringing fruit to california, not just avocados. the
>>medfly issue is no joke:
>>
>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medfly>
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
>
> Agreed Blake, the Mediterranean fruit fly is no joke but seriously we
> believe that the ban it is mainly to protect the avocado industry of
> CA. Calvado is a very wealthy PAC. They are afraid that if that ban
> was lifted, we would flood the mainland with our superior avocados.
>
> From Wikipidea ...." Under heavy pressure from the state's
> agricultural industry, which believed that billions of dollars' worth
> of crops were..."
>
> The Med fly does not go after avocados- according to my SO who has a
> deep interests in ag and in bugs. Here in Hawaii the med fly does not
> let us grow tomatoes but we do have avocados!
>

pressure by 'domestic' producers does play a big role. but california was,
i think, hit pretty hard by the medflies at one time.

didn't they once check motorists at the state for fruit?

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:12:09 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:12:30 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Washing fruits in hot soapy water kills fruit fly eggs. Dad is a banana
>>>freak. Loves the things. We had a constant fruit fly problem until I
>>>read HERE on this list about simply washing the fruits well as soon as
>>>they came into the house since the eggs were usually ON the bananas.
>>>
>>>I've had very few fruit flies in the house ever since. ;-) I'm pleased.
>>>
>>>Changing the fruit processing procedures to include hot soapy water
>>>would probably solve everybody's fruit fly problem.
>>
>> The Mediterranean fruit fly is a field problem, not a house problem.
>> You don't have them in Texas.
>
> Ok, but regular fruit flies are a pain in the ass if they are in the
> house.

very annoying the one or two times i had them.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

> didn't they once check motorists at the state for fruit?
>
> your pal,
> blake

They still do. In addition, they have Border Patrol checking for
illegals at various points.

--Lin

In article >,
Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Washing fruits in hot soapy water kills fruit fly eggs. Dad is a
> > banana freak. Loves the things. We had a constant fruit fly
> > problem until I read HERE on this list about simply washing the
> > fruits well as soon as they came into the house since the eggs
> > were usually ON the bananas.
>
> Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

They are not picky... <g>

Seen that before, always makes me chuckle.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:37:58 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>didn't they once check motorists at the state for fruit?
>
I distinctly remember it and the checkpoints are still.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:


> pressure by 'domestic' producers does play a big role. but california was,
> i think, hit pretty hard by the medflies at one time.
>
> didn't they once check motorists at the state for fruit?

That's funny, Blake.

If you want to bring illegal drugs or weapons into California from
another state, well, I guess they figure that if you got it into the
other state, it's not their problem. But if you try to bring in fruits
or vegetables, you will be stopped and checked, pretty much every time.
The whole damn freeway comes to a halt, inside a covered area, where
somebody who's whole job is this, has a talk with you. They will check
your trunk and your coolers, and ask where you got stuff. I've never
had anything confiscated, but lots of people have.

http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/phpps/pe/Exterior.html

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

blake murphy wrote:
>
> California was,
> i think, hit pretty hard by the medflies at one time.
>
> didn't they once check motorists at the state for fruit?
>



They still do.

gloria p

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:14:00 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> pressure by 'domestic' producers does play a big role. but california was,
>> i think, hit pretty hard by the medflies at one time.
>>
>> didn't they once check motorists at the state for fruit?
>
> That's funny, Blake.
>
> If you want to bring illegal drugs or weapons into California from
> another state, well, I guess they figure that if you got it into the
> other state, it's not their problem. But if you try to bring in fruits
> or vegetables, you will be stopped and checked, pretty much every time.
> The whole damn freeway comes to a halt, inside a covered area, where
> somebody who's whole job is this, has a talk with you. They will check
> your trunk and your coolers, and ask where you got stuff. I've never
> had anything confiscated, but lots of people have.
>
> http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/phpps/pe/Exterior.html

i can understand them being hinky about it. agriculture is big business
there - drugs and guns you can get anywhere.

your pal,
blake