"Nancy2" > wrote

> The same is true of my new GE. I can't tell if it's running or not,
> unless I put my ear down close to the door.

My inlaws had a GE, it was unreal how silent it was. Uncanny.

nancy

aem wrote:

> On Aug 9, 9:44 am, Peter A > wrote:
> >
> > I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a
> > grammatical horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across.
> > "I come up with...."
> >
> > This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")
>
> No, it's not. "Me, I...." is an ellipsis, where the omitted but
> understood words are, "as for." I.e., "As for me, I think ...." Not
> a bit unusual, and certainly not a bit incorrect. "Where are you
> at?", unless meant to be humorous, is just wrong. -aem

No, it is not wrong. Redundant, yes. Wrong, no.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 2007-08-09, Felice Friese > wrote:

> "The period belongs within the quotation marks. Period. Take it from the
> women's editor, who knows all about periods."

> who, perhaps, should have sent this by email

ROFL!! ...not on your life. I'll never forget that rule again. =D

nb

In article >, cathy1234
@mailinator.com says...
> Subject: What do you think about while washing dishes?
> From: ChattyCathy >
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>
> Peter A wrote:
>
> >
> > English is a beautiful language, capable of great subtlety and
> > expressiveness. If you want to say something, say it well. I realize
> > that usenet is not the Princeton English department, but most everyone
> > here has at least finished high school with its required English
> > classes. Were you sleeping?
>
> Peter, where I went to school, all our final high school examinations
> were marked in the UK. I passed both English Language and English
> Literature. As the UK is where "The Queen's English" is spoken, I think
> I do know a little bit about writing in English.
>

Don't be so insecure. I was not criticising your writing (as I made
clear in the original post) so there's no need to defend yourself.

I suppose I could, like most people, "chillax" in my "slax" (whatever
the hell that means, but I can guess). I could accept sloppiness,
stupidity, and ignorance like so many people do. I choose not to. I
suspect I am fighting a losing battle.


--
Peter Aitken

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Dee Dee wrote:
>
>>
>> We usually have a family of turkeys roaming around the property and
>> sometimes quickly flying over our head gives us a fright - I know we've
>> frightened them. But our real thrill is to have a hawk or a heron fly
>> over
>> our head. There is at least one of each that live in the woods and near
>> the
>> Brook.
>>
> This is the view from my kitchen. It was taken about two years ago when
> they were ripping out the apple and pear trees to prepare it for a
> nursery.
>
> http://i10.tinypic.com/6b40a4j.jpg

One question:
Who does the mowing?

Yes, a beautiful sight.
Dee Dee

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Where I live (totally urban), one can see deer every day, up close and
> personal. They're a horrible nuisance. Yes, I know we are in their
> territory, but they need birth control so they don't starve to death.
>
> N.

Deer tics are worrisome. I will look myself over when I come into the
house, but occaisonally I'll look down and find one crawling on me. Same
with DH.
He washes his hair every day, but he found one completely buried into his
scalp 2 days into a trip away from home.
Dee Dee

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:44:35 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >, says...
>> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>> You?
>>
>> blAndy
>>
>>
>
>I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
>horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
>with...."
>
>This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")

i'm not so sure it's ungrammatical. 'i come up with' does not mean
the same as what blandy said. he would have had to say, 'in
contradistinction to other people, i come with' and sound like a twit.
but of course that doesn't bother you.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:44:59 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >, cathy1234
says...
>> Peter A wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
>> > horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
>> > with...."
>> >
>> > This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")
>> >
>> >
>> Do you know what *I* wonder, Peter? Why the heck *you* even care about
>> grammar so much on Usenet.
>> Go and get a job as a proof reader or something. Sheesh.
>>
>
>English is a beautiful language, capable of great subtlety and
>expressiveness. If you want to say something, say it well. I realize
>that usenet is not the Princeton English department, but most everyone
>here has at least finished high school with its required English
>classes. Were you sleeping?
>
>If I make a grammatical error in a post (which I am sure I do) and
>someone points it out, I am grateful for the chance to learn something
>and improve my writing. Others, apparently, are happy to ignore such
>advice and, with false pride, continue writing like a slow 5th grader
>(your writing is not so bad, actually, but some other people are just
>horrid).
>
>If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have something
>interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything like
>that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
>rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
>insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
>remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.

of course. everyone like to be implied to be illiterate on the net.
who would not? (or is it 'whom'? jeez, he's got me all nervous now.)

but it's for their own good, so who could possibly object?

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:53:27 -0700, Nancy2 >
wrote:

>On Aug 9, 12:08 pm, blAndy > wrote:
>> writes:
>> >In article >, says...
>> >> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>> >> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>> >> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>> >> You?
>>
>> >> blAndy
>>
>> >I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
>> >horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
>> >with...."
>>
>> >This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")
>
>Or, "in back of," which is cringe-worthy.
>

what's wrong with 'in back of'? how else would you say 'it fell down
in back of the refrigerator'? o.k., i guess 'behind' would work, but
i don't see where 'in back of' is wrong.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:32:06 -0700, itsjoannotjoann
> wrote:

>On Aug 9, 11:44 am, Peter A > wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>
>> > OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>> > What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>> > with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>> > You?
>>
>> > blAndy
>>
>> I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
>> horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
>> with...."
>>
>> This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")
>>
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
>>
>>
>I've got to agree with Peter. It's redundant and in the same vein as
>"My dad, he went to the store." We already know he's a man when we
>were told it was your dad. No need to reinforce his sex by adding he.
>

i don't think the 'me, i' construction is completely redundant.

your pal,
blake

Dee Dee said:

I had to rush back to the computer to say this -- After writing above a
moment ago, I went into the kitchen to fill a big pot of water, looked
out the window and saw a big, big turkey grazing. Isn't that
coincidental - I love it when things like this happen.
-------------------------------------------------

We have a large blackberry patch behind the house and I was looking
forward to making a few cobblers next week. Not gonna happen, 10
turkeys, 4 adults and 6 teenagers, were chowing down on my berries.
Little buggers!! They got everything from my waist down, hopefully
there are still a few on the higher branches. Someone saw a black bear
in the neighborhood last week, so I should be glad we had turkeys and
not the bear.

Denise
http://community.webtv.net/DeniseJG/
My QI

Dee Dee wrote:
>
>
> > This is the view from my kitchen. It was taken about two years ago when
> > they were ripping out the apple and pear trees to prepare it for a
> > nursery.
> >
> > http://i10.tinypic.com/6b40a4j.jpg
>
> One question:
> Who does the mowing?
>

That is the neighbour's yard. He does the mowing, but he had a small farm
tractor with a mower attachment. It takes him less than an hour to mow the
front and back. Not a bad view though, eh.

"blAndy" > wrote in message ...
> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> You?


Sex usually.

Paul

"Denise in NH" > wrote in message
...
> Dee Dee said:
>
> I had to rush back to the computer to say this -- After writing above a
> moment ago, I went into the kitchen to fill a big pot of water, looked
> out the window and saw a big, big turkey grazing. Isn't that
> coincidental - I love it when things like this happen.
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> We have a large blackberry patch behind the house and I was looking
> forward to making a few cobblers next week. Not gonna happen, 10
> turkeys, 4 adults and 6 teenagers, were chowing down on my berries.
> Little buggers!! They got everything from my waist down, hopefully
> there are still a few on the higher branches. Someone saw a black bear
> in the neighborhood last week, so I should be glad we had turkeys and
> not the bear.
>
> Denise
> http://community.webtv.net/DeniseJG/
> My QI

In the pecking order of scary things on our property:
Number 1: BEARS
Number 2: SNAKES

Great Snakes!
(W. C. Fields)

A penny to anyone who knows what movie W. C. Fielss said "Great Snakes" in.
(Pardon my grammar!)
Dee Dee

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>>
>> > This is the view from my kitchen. It was taken about two years ago when
>> > they were ripping out the apple and pear trees to prepare it for a
>> > nursery.
>> >
>> > http://i10.tinypic.com/6b40a4j.jpg
>>
>> One question:
>> Who does the mowing?
>>
>
> That is the neighbour's yard. He does the mowing, but he had a small farm
> tractor with a mower attachment. It takes him less than an hour to mow the
> front and back. Not a bad view though, eh.

Yes, Great View -- sorry, but my pictures are too country/wilderness to
show. IOW, overgrown!
DH could use that farm tractor, but he still uses a John Deere rider mower.
Can't get him to change.
He does the mowing in shifts and it takes hours; and it always looks it ;-))
Dee Dee

In article >, blAndy > wrote:

> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> You?

I think about how I would like a larger kitchen so I could install a
dishwasher so I wouldn't have to wash dishes by hand any more.

"James Silverton" > wrote in news:nIKui.4123
$V53.2104@trnddc08:

> Peter wrote on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:45:35 -0400:
>
> PA> Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it
> PA> and have a conversation in a normal voice.
>
> It's not the only quiet dishwasher. My Maytag allows normal
> conversation while it is running and it's not the only
> possibil;ity.
>
>

Ya, my Miele is amazingly quiet. Perhaps the technology has reached the
point where few are really noisy anymore.

K

blAndy > wrote:
>What do you think about when you're washing dishes?

That I'm glad I replaced the old, noisy washer with the
one that was rated best for quietness by Consumer Reports.

--Blair

Peter A wrote:
> In article >, cathy1234
> @mailinator.com says...
>> Subject: What do you think about while washing dishes?
>> From: ChattyCathy >
>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>>
>> Peter A wrote:
>>
>>> English is a beautiful language, capable of great subtlety and
>>> expressiveness. If you want to say something, say it well. I realize
>>> that usenet is not the Princeton English department, but most everyone
>>> here has at least finished high school with its required English
>>> classes. Were you sleeping?
>> Peter, where I went to school, all our final high school examinations
>> were marked in the UK. I passed both English Language and English
>> Literature. As the UK is where "The Queen's English" is spoken, I think
>> I do know a little bit about writing in English.
>>
>
> Don't be so insecure. I was not criticising your writing (as I made
> clear in the original post) so there's no need to defend yourself.

"Insecure" is not the right word. "Annoyed" would be more accurate. You
accused me of "sleeping" through high school in your first paragraph (at
least I gathered you were addressing me as you were replying to my post)
and then stated in the next that my writing "is not so bad..." which
implies that it's not as good as yours. My Mother always referred to
remarks like that as "backhanded compliments".

>
> I suppose I could, like most people, "chillax" in my "slax" (whatever
> the hell that means, but I can guess).

Well if you guessed that it means "life is too short to spend it
correcting grammar on Usenet posts" you'd have guessed correctly.

> I could accept sloppiness,
> stupidity, and ignorance like so many people do. I choose not to. I
> suspect I am fighting a losing battle.

When were you elected as the Sloppiness, Stupidity and Ignorance
Inspector (SSII) on Usenet? I guess I must have missed that. Darn. I
would have voted for the "other guy".

Do me favour, Peter. Try reading what you have actually written before
you hit the "Send" button in future.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

In article >,
says...
> Subject: Correcting others' grammar (was: washing dishes)
> From: Felice Friese >
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>
>
> "Peter A" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have something
> > interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything like
> > that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
> > rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
> > insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
> > remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.
> > --
> > Peter Aitken
>
> Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their grammatical
> errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they would appreciate your
> criticism, you could email them or post a grammar hint in a separate thread
> addressed to the newsgroup as a whole.
>
> I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
> grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted a
> general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.
>
>

Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a writer by
trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me than it is to
99.9% of people.

Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
with it.

--
Peter Aitken

Steve Wertz wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:36:30 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> On Aug 9, 11:43?am, blAndy > wrote:
>>> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>>
>>> What do you think about when you're washing dishes?
>> Having my hands in hot soapy water makes think I need to pee.
>
> I had a girlfriend in high school that would have multiple
> orgasms just from washing dishes in hot water.
>
> Anybody else?
>
> -sw

What's her number? I have a pile of dishes that need to be wash and
unlimited hot water.

"Stan Horwitz" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, blAndy > wrote:
>
>> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>> You?
>
> I think about how I would like a larger kitchen so I could install a
> dishwasher so I wouldn't have to wash dishes by hand any more.

Is that possible?
I just finished a half-hour washing dishes that I felt had to be washed by
hand. Let's see -- plastic yogurt maker thingies, big jar to be washed in
environmental soap to take to the farm, a couple of tops for a food-saver,
things just too darned big and bulky to put into the dishwasher, and the
list goes on.
Dee Dee

Peter A wrote:
>
> Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a writer by
> trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me than it is to
> 99.9% of people.

99.9% is a bit high - but close enough on Usenet
>
> Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
> anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
> with it.
>
People are not resistant to learning anything "voluntarily" - keep
shoving it down their throats and it gets annoying.
You are right about the "human nature" thing though, I'll give you that.
You *do* have to learn to deal with it.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

"Peter A" > wrote in message
...
> says...
>> "Peter A" > wrote in message
>> >
>> > If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have
>> > something
>> > interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything
>> > like
>> > that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
>> > rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
>> > insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
>> > remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.
>> > --
>> > Peter Aitken
>>
>> Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their grammatical
>> errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they would appreciate your
>> criticism, you could email them or post a grammar hint in a separate
>> thread
>> addressed to the newsgroup as a whole.
>>
>> I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
>> grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted
>> a
>> general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.
>
> Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a writer by
> trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me than it is to
> 99.9% of people.
>
> Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
> anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
> with it.
> --
> Peter Aitken

And thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful reply. It seems that both of us
put great value in grammar. Yes, you probably should learn to deal with its
misuse, although I can assure you it's not easy!

Felice

Felice Friese wrote:
> "Peter A" > wrote in message

>> Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
>> anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
>> with it.
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
> And thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful reply. It seems that both of us
> put great value in grammar. Yes, you probably should learn to deal with its
> misuse, although I can assure you it's not easy!
>
> Felice
>
I found both your replies helpful. My grammar and recall of punctuation
rules have deteriorated since my school days. Years ago someone pointed
out an error I made by writing "alot" instead of "a lot" and I cringe to
this day to think of how often I'd made that mistake and how illiterate
I must have appeared?! But I never made that mistake again after that day.

If the subject is going to be off topic- at least it is useful! I'd
rather read that than the jokes, private conversations, dull breakfast
reports, et cetera....

Goomba38 wrote:

>
> If the subject is going to be off topic- at least it is useful! I'd
> rather read that than the jokes, private conversations, dull breakfast
> reports, et cetera....


Lemme get this straight - certain OT posts are "useful" to *you* and
some are not...

<Cathy shouts: "Eureka!" on Goomba's behalf>

You finally got it! Wonders will never cease.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy - saving this post for "blackmail material"

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

In article >,
says...
> > Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a writer by
> > trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me than it is to
> > 99.9% of people.
> >
> > Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
> > anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
> > with it.
> > --
> > Peter Aitken
>
> And thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful reply. It seems that both of us
> put great value in grammar. Yes, you probably should learn to deal with its
> misuse, although I can assure you it's not easy!
>
> Felice
>
>

I find bad grammar a lot easier to take in spoken English. When you are
speaking with someone you have tone of voice, phrasing, facial
expression, and body language to help get the meaning across. When
things are written, it's a lot harder. There are none of these helpers
so you have to rely 100% on the words (although the "smiley face" and
other emoticons can help).


--
Peter Aitken

Peter A wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>> > Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a
>> > writer by trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me
>> > than it is to 99.9% of people.
>> >
>> > Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to
>> > learning anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should
>> > learn to deal with it. -- Peter Aitken
>>
>> And thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful reply. It seems that both
>> of us put great value in grammar. Yes, you probably should learn to
>> deal with its misuse, although I can assure you it's not easy!
>
> I find bad grammar a lot easier to take in spoken English. When you
> are speaking with someone you have tone of voice, phrasing, facial
> expression, and body language to help get the meaning across. When
> things are written, it's a lot harder. There are none of these helpers
> so you have to rely 100% on the words (although the "smiley face" and
> other emoticons can help).

I think it ironic that so many people who can barely write are drawn to
this written medium. I can't play the saxophone, so I don't stand on
the street corner with one and squawk away dysphonically (if that
inflection is valid) at everyone that passes.


--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups.
Except in Thunderbird, which can't filter that well.
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

Blinky the Shark wrote:

>
> I think it ironic that so many people who can barely write are drawn to
> this written medium. I can't play the saxophone, so I don't stand on
> the street corner with one and squawk away dysphonically (if that
> inflection is valid) at everyone that passes.
>
>
If by "this written medium" you are referring to Usenet, people do it
simply because they *can*. But that's human nature, not so sure about
sharks.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

> "James Silverton" > wrote in news:nIKui.4123
> $V53.2104@trnddc08:
>
>> Peter wrote on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:45:35 -0400:
>>
>> PA> Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it
>> PA> and have a conversation in a normal voice.
>>
>> It's not the only quiet dishwasher. My Maytag allows normal
>> conversation while it is running and it's not the only
>> possibility.
>>
\

My high end Maytag is as noisy as the 10 year old model it replaced.

:-(

gloria p

ChattyCathy wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>>
>> I think it ironic that so many people who can barely write are drawn
>> to this written medium. I can't play the saxophone, so I don't stand
>> on the street corner with one and squawk away dysphonically (if that
>> inflection is valid) at everyone that passes.
>>
> If by "this written medium" you are referring to Usenet, people do it
> simply because they *can*. But that's human nature, not so sure about
> sharks.

Referring back to my analogy, above, I *can* stand on the street corner
with a saxophone I don't know how to use and squawk at everyone that
passes, but that does not mean it's a good idea. So perhaps you're
right. Perhaps sharks *are* more discriminating (except in their diet,
which brings us back to matters of food).


--
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Killing all posts from Google Groups.
Except in Thunderbird, which can't filter that well.
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

In article >, blAndy > wrote:

> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> You?
>
> blAndy

I'm thinking of what else I need to do usually. :-)
And my "recipe/prep" as washing dishes and cleaning up the kitchen is
often a preliminary to cooking.

I have GOT to have a clean kitchen before I get started! Clean stove too.

Since I keep up with it, it generally only takes 5 to 15 minutes.
--
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Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:31:52 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Stan Horwitz" > wrote in message

>> I think about how I would like a larger kitchen so I could install a
>> dishwasher so I wouldn't have to wash dishes by hand any more.
>
>Is that possible?
>I just finished a half-hour washing dishes that I felt had to be washed by
>hand. Let's see -- plastic yogurt maker thingies, big jar to be washed in
>environmental soap to take to the farm, a couple of tops for a food-saver,
>things just too darned big and bulky to put into the dishwasher, and the
>list goes on.
>Dee Dee
>

I go the other way. I wash everything in the DW (including yogurt
maker parts, food processor and blender parts). As much as possible,
I buy things that are "dishwasher safe," the only exception being my
Shun santoku knife. For the rare really big item, the top rack comes
out.

My only complaint is that I need more top racks for all of those "top
rack dishwasher-safe" items

In article .com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> On Aug 9, 11:43?am, blAndy > wrote:
> > OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
> >
> > What do you think about when you're washing dishes?
>
> Having my hands in hot soapy water makes think I need to pee.

<lol> I've had that happen a few times! ;-D

Funny, but common.

My dish washer is a two hands and a pan of hot soapy dish water.
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In article om>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:

> On Aug 9, 9:43 am, blAndy > wrote:
> > OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
> >
> > What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> > with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
> >
> > You?
>
> Girls.
>
>
> --Bryan

No no Bryan, what do you think of with your OTHER head?

;-)
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:43:52 +0000 (UTC), blAndy wrote:
>
> > OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
> >
> > What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> > with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> Then we need to pitch in and buy you a year supply of paper
> plates and plastic utensils.
>
> -sw

Heh! Don't think I've never considered that sometimes!
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On 10 Aug 2007 05:05:56 GMT, Amarantha
> wrote:

>"James Silverton" > wrote in news:nIKui.4123
>$V53.2104@trnddc08:
>
>> Peter wrote on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:45:35 -0400:
>>
>> PA> Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it
>> PA> and have a conversation in a normal voice.
>>
>> It's not the only quiet dishwasher. My Maytag allows normal
>> conversation while it is running and it's not the only
>> possibil;ity.
>>
>>
>
>Ya, my Miele is amazingly quiet. Perhaps the technology has reached the
>point where few are really noisy anymore.
>
It probably also has to do with how much you spend on insulation.
When I bought my Kenmore, there was a choice of several quietness
levels, with price directly proportional to quietness (among other
features, of course). The model I bought was mid-level and it is
plenty quiet.

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:26:31 -0400, "Felice Friese"
> wrote:

>
>"Peter A" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have something
>> interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything like
>> that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
>> rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
>> insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
>> remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
>Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their grammatical
>errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they would appreciate your
>criticism, you could email them or post a grammar hint in a separate thread
>addressed to the newsgroup as a whole.
>
>I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
>grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted a
>general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.
>

felice, i'm impressed. who did you edit for?

>Examples:
> "An antiques dealer is one who deals in antiques; an antique dealer is
>one who is at least 100 years old and is unlikely to be dealing in
>anything."
> "The period belongs within the quotation marks. Period. Take it from the
>women's editor, who knows all about periods."

tee-hee.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:37:32 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Felice Friese wrote:
>>
>>
>> Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their grammatical
>> errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they would appreciate your
>> criticism, you could email them or post a grammar hint in a separate thread
>> addressed to the newsgroup as a whole.
>>
>> I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
>> grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted a
>> general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.
>>
>> Examples:
>> "An antiques dealer is one who deals in antiques; an antique dealer is
>> one who is at least 100 years old and is unlikely to be dealing in
>> anything."
>> "The period belongs within the quotation marks. Period. Take it from the
>> women's editor, who knows all about periods."
>>
>> Felice
>> who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
>> :-)
>
>I have seen too many Usenet posts complaining about spelling or grammar
>which are full of errors. We have to remember what they say about throwing
>stones in a glass house.

it's a usenet law.

your pal,
blake

On 9 Aug 2007 20:03:18 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Felice Friese wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their
>> > grammatical errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they
>> > would appreciate your criticism, you could email them or post a
>> > grammar hint in a separate thread addressed to the newsgroup as a
>> > whole.
>> >
>> > I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a
>> > reporter's grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them
>> > privately or posted a general note (usually light in tone) on the
>> > newsroom bulletin board.
>> >
>> > Examples:
>> > "An antiques dealer is one who deals in antiques; an antique
>> > dealer is one who is at least 100 years old and is unlikely to be
>> > dealing in anything."
>> > "The period belongs within the quotation marks. Period. Take it
>> > from the women's editor, who knows all about periods."
>> >
>> > Felice
>> > who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
>> > :-)
>>
>> I have seen too many Usenet posts complaining about spelling or
>> grammar which are full of errors. We have to remember what they say
>> about throwing stones in a glass house.
>
>Additionally, many of the "corrections" aren't even pointing out real
>grammar errors. Case in point, this talk about redundancies is silly.
>It's not a grammatical error to have a redundant word in a sentence. It
>may be an indication of poor writing, but if we're going to get into
>that stream of nonsense it would be never-ending. Few usenet posts
>couldn't use some improvement on that score.
>
>Ending a sentence in a preposition is not grammatically incorrect.
>Typically what happens is that a contraction is used earlier and the
>preposition is used to round out the sentence. People usually don't say
>or write, "Where are you at." What they do produce is, "Where're you
>at." Due to the contraction, the sentence feels chopped off, and the
>insidious "at" creeps in to finish it.
>
>Now I'm going to boldly go split some infinitives.
>

i say 'where're you at' or 'where's it at' all the time. people's
speech is often not grammatically correct. the difference is that
most speech is not formal writing, where i would never use such a
construction.

by the same token, usenet is not often formal writing.

(i will confess that 'anyways' instead of 'anyway' drives me up the
****in' wall.)

your pal,
blake