On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:36:32 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Default User wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ending a sentence in a preposition is not grammatically incorrect.
>
>It is acceptable if there is no alternative. To ask "Where are you at?" is
>redundant, and therefore not necessary.
>
>
>> Typically what happens is that a contraction is used earlier and the
>> preposition is used to round out the sentence. People usually don't say
>> or write, "Where are you at." What they do produce is, "Where're you
>> at." Due to the contraction, the sentence feels chopped off, and the
>> insidious "at" creeps in to finish it.
>
>It is often somewhat amusing to listen to people with bad grammar trying to
>make things sound proper but not being able to pull it off.

even funnier are people who use ten-dollar words in order to sound
erudite and get them wrong.

your pal,
blake

Blinky the Shark wrote:


> I think it ironic that so many people who can barely write are drawn
> to this written medium. I can't play the saxophone, so I don't stand
> on the street corner with one and squawk away dysphonically (if that
> inflection is valid) at everyone that passes.

The goal of usenet is not to be a writing exhibition. It's a form of
communication. People participate because they wish to exchange ideas. T



Brian

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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:11:12 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> "Felice Friese" > wrote:
>
>> Felice
>> who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
>> :-)
>
>Uh, don't do that, Fleece. THAT would *seriously* annoy him. I know
>this to be fact.

besides, the rest of us would be deprived of a chuckle.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:06:10 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> Subject: Correcting others' grammar (was: washing dishes)
>> From: Felice Friese >
>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>>
>>
>> "Peter A" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have something
>> > interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything like
>> > that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
>> > rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
>> > insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
>> > remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.
>> > --
>> > Peter Aitken
>>
>> Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their grammatical
>> errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they would appreciate your
>> criticism, you could email them or post a grammar hint in a separate thread
>> addressed to the newsgroup as a whole.
>>
>> I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
>> grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted a
>> general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.
>>
>>
>
>Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a writer by
>trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me than it is to
>99.9% of people.
>
>Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
>anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
>with it.

this post is just another indication that you *are* saying 'hey
stupid, I'm smarter than you." 99.9%? so modest.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:39:18 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> > Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a writer by
>> > trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me than it is to
>> > 99.9% of people.
>> >
>> > Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
>> > anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
>> > with it.
>> > --
>> > Peter Aitken
>>
>> And thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful reply. It seems that both of us
>> put great value in grammar. Yes, you probably should learn to deal with its
>> misuse, although I can assure you it's not easy!
>>
>> Felice
>>
>>
>
>I find bad grammar a lot easier to take in spoken English. When you are
>speaking with someone you have tone of voice, phrasing, facial
>expression, and body language to help get the meaning across. When
>things are written, it's a lot harder. There are none of these helpers
>so you have to rely 100% on the words (although the "smiley face" and
>other emoticons can help).

your claims to being any kind of writer at all are demolished by your
advocating emoticons. jaysus.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:08:47 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Default User wrote:
>
>>
>> Now I'm going to boldly go split some infinitives.
>
>Isn't that going to be a bit painful for the infinitives?

i'm pretty sure they're used to it by now.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:22:58 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "Felice Friese" > wrote:
>>
>>> Felice
>>> who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
>>> :-)
>>
>> Uh, don't do that, Fleece. THAT would *seriously* annoy him. I know
>> this to be fact.
>
>So what? Is the world going to come to an end if Peter gets *seriously*
>annoyed, or does he start shooting lightning bolts from his finger tips?
>Tell us, tell us! Please!

he will put you in your place by correcting your egregious errors.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
says...
> >Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a writer by
> >trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me than it is to
> >99.9% of people.
> >
> >Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
> >anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
> >with it.
>
> this post is just another indication that you *are* saying 'hey
> stupid, I'm smarter than you." 99.9%? so modest.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
>

I'm sorry that you are so insecure.

There was actually an intelligent and interesting thread going on here,
yet you have to jump in with your high school digs and insults. Thanks a
lot.

Yes indeed, I am more intelligent than you - but then again, so is my
toaster.


--
Peter Aitken

>
> (i will confess that 'anyways' instead of 'anyway' drives me up the
> ****in' wall.)
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

Anyways, writin' " ****in' " instead of writin' it out drives me up the
wall, too."

Your good pal,
Dee Dee

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:06:01 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >, cathy1234
says...
>> Subject: What do you think about while washing dishes?
>> From: ChattyCathy >
>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>>
>> Peter A wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > English is a beautiful language, capable of great subtlety and
>> > expressiveness. If you want to say something, say it well. I realize
>> > that usenet is not the Princeton English department, but most everyone
>> > here has at least finished high school with its required English
>> > classes. Were you sleeping?
>>
>> Peter, where I went to school, all our final high school examinations
>> were marked in the UK. I passed both English Language and English
>> Literature. As the UK is where "The Queen's English" is spoken, I think
>> I do know a little bit about writing in English.
>>
>
>Don't be so insecure. I was not criticising your writing (as I made
>clear in the original post) so there's no need to defend yourself.
>
>I suppose I could, like most people, "chillax" in my "slax" (whatever
>the hell that means, but I can guess). I could accept sloppiness,
>stupidity, and ignorance like so many people do. I choose not to. I
>suspect I am fighting a losing battle.

you are so noble, peter. really, you're a credit to your race.

your pal,
blake

blake wrote on Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:41:08 GMT:

??>> In article >,
??>> says...
??>>>> Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point.
??>>>> I am a writer by trade and I suppose that grammar is
??>>>> more important to me than it is to 99.9% of people.
??>>>>
??>>>> Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are
??>>>> to learning anything. I guess that's just human nature
??>>>> and I should learn to deal with it. -- Peter Aitken
??>>>
??>>> And thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful reply. It seems
??>>> that both of us put great value in grammar. Yes, you
??>>> probably should learn to deal with its misuse, although I
??>>> can assure you it's not easy!
??>>>
??>>> Felice
??>>>
??>> I find bad grammar a lot easier to take in spoken English.
??>> When you are speaking with someone you have tone of voice,
??>> phrasing, facial expression, and body language to help get
??>> the meaning across. When things are written, it's a lot
??>> harder. There are none of these helpers so you have to
??>> rely 100% on the words (although the "smiley face" and
??>> other emoticons can help).

bm> your claims to being any kind of writer at all are
bm> demolished by your advocating emoticons. jaysus.

I do mostly agree with you Blake but not in avoiding emoticons
when posting to news groups, not that I'd use them in *formal*
or technical writing. IMHO, they are often a useful and facile
way to indicate that you are joking or being a little
tongue-in-cheek and don't want to be taken seriously. They can
have similar uses to acronyms like IMHO that acknowledge that
you know others may not agree. I used to sometimes use (g)
instead of :-) but not everyone got it! There are many people,
including me, who have Microsoft Word set to autocorrect things
like :-) to the smiley for informal correspondence.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Dee Dee > wrote in message
...
> Anyways, writin' " ****in' " instead of writin' it out drives
> me up the wall, too."

What about "effin'" or "frickin'"? (These subtleties are
important.)

The Ranger

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:04:07 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:36:30 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> On Aug 9, 11:43?am, blAndy > wrote:
>>> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>>
>>> What do you think about when you're washing dishes?
>>
>> Having my hands in hot soapy water makes think I need to pee.
>
>I had a girlfriend in high school that would have multiple
>orgasms just from washing dishes in hot water.
>
>Anybody else?
>
>-sw

sounds like she has a rewarding career path available to her.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:57:25 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Peter A wrote:
>> In article >, cathy1234
>> @mailinator.com says...
>>> Subject: What do you think about while washing dishes?
>>> From: ChattyCathy >
>>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>> Peter A wrote:
>>>
>>>> English is a beautiful language, capable of great subtlety and
>>>> expressiveness. If you want to say something, say it well. I realize
>>>> that usenet is not the Princeton English department, but most everyone
>>>> here has at least finished high school with its required English
>>>> classes. Were you sleeping?
>>> Peter, where I went to school, all our final high school examinations
>>> were marked in the UK. I passed both English Language and English
>>> Literature. As the UK is where "The Queen's English" is spoken, I think
>>> I do know a little bit about writing in English.
>>>
>>
>> Don't be so insecure. I was not criticising your writing (as I made
>> clear in the original post) so there's no need to defend yourself.
>
>"Insecure" is not the right word. "Annoyed" would be more accurate. You
>accused me of "sleeping" through high school in your first paragraph (at
>least I gathered you were addressing me as you were replying to my post)
>and then stated in the next that my writing "is not so bad..." which
>implies that it's not as good as yours. My Mother always referred to
>remarks like that as "backhanded compliments".
>
>>
>> I suppose I could, like most people, "chillax" in my "slax" (whatever
>> the hell that means, but I can guess).
>
>Well if you guessed that it means "life is too short to spend it
>correcting grammar on Usenet posts" you'd have guessed correctly.
>
>> I could accept sloppiness,
>> stupidity, and ignorance like so many people do. I choose not to. I
>> suspect I am fighting a losing battle.
>
>When were you elected as the Sloppiness, Stupidity and Ignorance
>Inspector (SSII) on Usenet? I guess I must have missed that. Darn. I
>would have voted for the "other guy".
>
>Do me favour, Peter. Try reading what you have actually written before
>you hit the "Send" button in future.

but, cathy, don't you want to improve yourself? peter has only your
best interests at heart.

your pal,
blake

Default User wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>
>> I think it ironic that so many people who can barely write are drawn
>> to this written medium. I can't play the saxophone, so I don't stand
>> on the street corner with one and squawk away dysphonically (if that
>> inflection is valid) at everyone that passes.
>
> The goal of usenet is not to be a writing exhibition. It's a form of
> communication. People participate because they wish to exchange ideas.
> T

I shall simplify. I think it ironic that so many people who can barely
write are drawn to this written medium.


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Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>> (i will confess that 'anyways' instead of 'anyway' drives me up the
>> ****in' wall.)
>>
>> your pal, blake
>>
>
> Anyways, writin' " ****in' " instead of writin' it out drives me up
> the wall, too."

At least all instances of contractions those two posts (blake's and Dee
Dee's) make use of the apostrophe to indicate that contraction.



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blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:36:32 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>Default User wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ending a sentence in a preposition is not grammatically incorrect.
>>
>>It is acceptable if there is no alternative. To ask "Where are you at?" is
>>redundant, and therefore not necessary.
>>
>>
>>> Typically what happens is that a contraction is used earlier and the
>>> preposition is used to round out the sentence. People usually don't say
>>> or write, "Where are you at." What they do produce is, "Where're you
>>> at." Due to the contraction, the sentence feels chopped off, and the
>>> insidious "at" creeps in to finish it.
>>
>>It is often somewhat amusing to listen to people with bad grammar trying to
>>make things sound proper but not being able to pull it off.
>
> even funnier are people who use ten-dollar words in order to sound
> erudite and get them wrong.

Do you mean like "erudite" instead of "learned"?

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blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:36:32 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>Default User wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ending a sentence in a preposition is not grammatically incorrect.
>>
>>It is acceptable if there is no alternative. To ask "Where are you at?" is
>>redundant, and therefore not necessary.
>>
>>
>>> Typically what happens is that a contraction is used earlier and the
>>> preposition is used to round out the sentence. People usually don't say
>>> or write, "Where are you at." What they do produce is, "Where're you
>>> at." Due to the contraction, the sentence feels chopped off, and the
>>> insidious "at" creeps in to finish it.
>>
>>It is often somewhat amusing to listen to people with bad grammar trying to
>>make things sound proper but not being able to pull it off.
>
> even funnier are people who use ten-dollar words in order to sound
> erudite and get them wrong.

No, in my first reply I wasn't implying that "erudite" was used wrongly;
I was just playing with the arguable erudition of using "erudite".


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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:26:31 -0400, "Felice Friese"
> > wrote:

<snippity>

>>I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
>>grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted
>>a
>>general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.
>
> felice, i'm impressed. who did you edit for?
>
> your pal,
> blake

Sounds more impressive than it was, Blake! They were weekly/daily papers in
Westchester County, N.Y., one of which I owned (the one that was a
journalistic success and a financial disaster). In my dreams, of course, I
worked for the New York Times.

Felice

blake murphy wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:39:18 -0400, Peter A >
> wrote:
>
>>In article >,
says...
>>> > Thanks for your thoughtful post, you make a good point. I am a writer by
>>> > trade and I suppose that grammar is more important to me than it is to
>>> > 99.9% of people.
>>> >
>>> > Even so, I am surprised by how resistant most people are to learning
>>> > anything. I guess that's just human nature and I should learn to deal
>>> > with it.
>>> > --
>>> > Peter Aitken
>>>
>>> And thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful reply. It seems that both of us
>>> put great value in grammar. Yes, you probably should learn to deal with its
>>> misuse, although I can assure you it's not easy!
>>>
>>> Felice
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I find bad grammar a lot easier to take in spoken English. When you are
>>speaking with someone you have tone of voice, phrasing, facial
>>expression, and body language to help get the meaning across. When
>>things are written, it's a lot harder. There are none of these helpers
>>so you have to rely 100% on the words (although the "smiley face" and
>>other emoticons can help).
>
> your claims to being any kind of writer at all are demolished by your
> advocating emoticons. jaysus.

If not overdone, they can be a somewhat useful replacement for the
visual cues we get in face-to-face communication and lose here. One
example of "overdone" is having them in one's sig so every post ends
with one. Automatic similes like that are meaningless.


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"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
...
> >
>> (i will confess that 'anyways' instead of 'anyway' drives me up the
>> ****in' wall.)
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Anyways, writin' " ****in' " instead of writin' it out drives me up the
> wall, too."
>
> Your good pal,
> Dee Dee

Well, yeah, but it's better than f---ing.

Felice

"Blinky the Shark" > wrote

> If not overdone, they can be a somewhat useful replacement for the
> visual cues we get in face-to-face communication and lose here. One
> example of "overdone" is having them in one's sig so every post ends
> with one. Automatic similes like that are meaningless.

It's too late, I don't even notice them anymore. I gave up trying
to interpret them long ago. I like your recipe! Uh ... does that mean
you thought it sucked? Why the wink?

Too many emoticons that don't match the sentiment. When someone
says Didn't you see the smiley? I can usually say No, I didn't notice it.

nancy

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:04:07 GMT, Steve Wertz
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:36:30 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> >> On Aug 9, 11:43?am, blAndy > wrote:
> >>> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
> >>>
> >>> What do you think about when you're washing dishes?
> >>
> >> Having my hands in hot soapy water makes think I need to pee.
> >
> >I had a girlfriend in high school that would have multiple
> >orgasms just from washing dishes in hot water.
> >
> >Anybody else?
> >
> >-sw
>
> sounds like she has a rewarding career path available to her.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Men...

<disgusted look>

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Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Default User wrote:

> > The goal of usenet is not to be a writing exhibition. It's a form of
> > communication. People participate because they wish to exchange
> > ideas. T
>
> I shall simplify. I think it ironic that so many people who can
> barely write are drawn to this written medium.

While there are a number of people will severely limited writing
skills, I'd say on the whole they represent a very smally minority.
Most of the people are at least competent at basic writing.

Your experiences may differ.



Brian

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On Aug 9, 3:53 pm, tert in seattle > wrote:
> writes:
> >On Aug 9, 1:32 pm, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
>
> >> Also, I wonder how they learned to spell so badly when using
> >> abbreviations. Example: ect.ect.-
>
> >In this particular case, I think it's because most people don't know
> >that
> >etc. is the abbreviation for et cetera. Once you know that, it's much
> >more difficult to get it wrong (apart from simply transposing it on
> >the
> >keyboard, but I don't think this combination lends itself to that as
> >well
> >as some other combinations of keys).
>
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> I think it's because "ekt" is easier to say than "etik".

I am quite grateful that I was not drinking a beverage when I
read that.

Cindy Hamilton

Default User wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> Default User wrote:
>
>> > The goal of usenet is not to be a writing exhibition. It's a form of
>> > communication. People participate because they wish to exchange
>> > ideas. T
>>
>> I shall simplify. I think it ironic that so many people who can
>> barely write are drawn to this written medium.
>
> While there are a number of people will severely limited writing
> skills, I'd say on the whole they represent a very smally minority.
> Most of the people are at least competent at basic writing.
>
> Your experiences may differ.

I read about 30 groups a day, so it probably does.

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Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Default User wrote:

> > While there are a number of people will severely limited writing
> > skills, I'd say on the whole they represent a very smally minority.
> > Most of the people are at least competent at basic writing.
> >
> > Your experiences may differ.
>
> I read about 30 groups a day, so it probably does.

I subscribe to 17.


Brian

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Default User wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> Default User wrote:
>
>> > While there are a number of people will severely limited writing
>> > skills, I'd say on the whole they represent a very smally minority.
>> > Most of the people are at least competent at basic writing.
>> >
>> > Your experiences may differ.
>>
>> I read about 30 groups a day, so it probably does.
>
> I subscribe to 17.
>
> Brian

I read carefully.

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Default wrote on 10 Aug 2007 21:40:40 GMT:

??>> Default User wrote:

??>>> While there are a number of people will severely limited
??>>> writing skills, I'd say on the whole they represent a
??>>> very smally minority. Most of the people are at least
??>>> competent at basic writing.
??>>>
??>>> Your experiences may differ.
??>>
??>> I read about 30 groups a day, so it probably does.

DU> I subscribe to 17.

I guess I "subscribe" (silly term) to over 20 on 3 news servers
but I usually don't bother opening them unless there are more
than 10 posts unless I am expecting a reply.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

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Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Default User wrote:
> > Blinky the Shark wrote:

> >> I read about 30 groups a day, so it probably does.
> >
> > I subscribe to 17.
> >
> > Brian
>
> I read carefully.

How carefully I read depends on the group. Usually some threads are
more lightly perused than others.



Brian

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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:43:52 +0000 (UTC), blAndy > wrote:

>OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
>What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
I think about how much I don't like washing dishes.


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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:01:54 -0400, raymond >
wrote:

>On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:43:52 +0000 (UTC), blAndy > wrote:
>
>>OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>>What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>>with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>>You?
>
>I think about how far to turn up the volume on the TV to drown out the
>noise of the diswasher.

Funnel some money into a new one. It will be a LOT quieter. BTDT


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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:45:35 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> I think about how far to turn up the volume on the TV to drown out the
>> noise of the diswasher.
>>
>
>Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it and have a
>conversation in a normal voice.

Yep and strain to hear the water swish. The first time I ran mine, I
felt like I was in a commercial.


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On 10 Aug 2007 05:05:56 GMT, Amarantha
> wrote:

>"James Silverton" > wrote in news:nIKui.4123
>$V53.2104@trnddc08:
>
>> Peter wrote on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:45:35 -0400:
>>
>> PA> Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it
>> PA> and have a conversation in a normal voice.
>>
>> It's not the only quiet dishwasher. My Maytag allows normal
>> conversation while it is running and it's not the only
>> possibil;ity.
>>
>>
>
>Ya, my Miele is amazingly quiet. Perhaps the technology has reached the
>point where few are really noisy anymore.
>
bingo.



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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:44:59 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have something
>interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything like
>that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
>rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
>insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
>remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.

Don't assume. Everybody knows a preposition is something you don't
end a sentence with. However, we disregard the rules
occasionally because the style of writing in rfc is less formal and
has a more conversational tone to it.


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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:26:11 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® >
wrote:

>On Aug 9, 9:43 am, blAndy > wrote:
>> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>> You?
>
>Girls.
>>
Stick to women around your age and you won't be viewed as a weird
middle aged man who is still trying to hang onto his youth.


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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:55:13 -0700, Nancy2 >
wrote:

>Yes, I know we are in their
>territory, but they need birth control so they don't starve to death.

I certainly agree with that.


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sf wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:44:59 -0400, Peter A >
> wrote:
>
> > If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have
> > something interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi"
> > or anything like that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm
> > smarter than you" but rather to say "perhaps you would like to know
> > this." Unfortunately, insecure people are so touchy about any
> > criticism, they would rather remain ignorant than learn something
> > new because of their stupid pride.
>
> Don't assume. Everybody knows a preposition is something you don't
> end a sentence with. However, we disregard the rules
> occasionally because the style of writing in rfc is less formal and
> has a more conversational tone to it.

That's not rule. Never has been. There a misconception that it's a
rule, but it's not.



Brian

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Steve Wertz wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:36:30 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> On Aug 9, 11:43?am, blAndy > wrote:
>>> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>>
>>> What do you think about when you're washing dishes?
>> Having my hands in hot soapy water makes think I need to pee.
>
> I had a girlfriend in high school that would have multiple
> orgasms just from washing dishes in hot water.
>
> Anybody else?
>
> -sw

Still got her number?

On 11 Aug 2007 01:52:04 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>That's not rule. Never has been. There a misconception that it's a
>rule, but it's not.

<sigh> This only confirms that we ARE going to Hell in a handbasket!




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