OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!

What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
with whimsical questions like this one. :-D

You?

blAndy

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:43:52 +0000 (UTC), blAndy > wrote:

>OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
>What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
>You?

I think about how far to turn up the volume on the TV to drown out the
noise of the diswasher.

"raymond" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:43:52 +0000 (UTC), blAndy > wrote:
>
>>OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>>What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>>with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>>You?
>
> I think about how far to turn up the volume on the TV to drown out the
> noise of the diswasher.

Gotta new dishwasher -- we can talk now. (The other one wasn't too old, but
it was noisey.)

I have a laptop in the kitchen to take care of those chore-ful moments. I
use it to watch/listen to TV (Sling box) and/or streaming radio, or my own
music playlist.
Dee Dee

On Aug 9, 11:43?am, blAndy > wrote:
> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> What do you think about when you're washing dishes?

Having my hands in hot soapy water makes think I need to pee.

In article >, says...
> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> You?
>
> blAndy
>
>

I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
with...."

This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")


--
Peter Aitken

In article >,
says...
> I think about how far to turn up the volume on the TV to drown out the
> noise of the diswasher.
>

Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it and have a
conversation in a normal voice.

--
Peter Aitken

Peter A wrote:

>
> I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
> horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
> with...."
>
> This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")
>
>
Do you know what *I* wonder, Peter? Why the heck *you* even care about
grammar so much on Usenet.
Go and get a job as a proof reader or something. Sheesh.
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Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

writes:
>In article >, says...
>> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>> You?
>>
>> blAndy
>>
>>
>
>I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
>horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
>with...."
>
>This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")

You forgot the period at the end of you're second sentence. :-D

People write things like "Me, I" because it establishes a folksy
tone of easy familiarity which although perhaps superficial it helps
some of us endure those depressing moments in life which you apparently
prefer to savor. De gustibus ect. ect.!! :-b

On Aug 9, 9:43 am, blAndy > wrote:
> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> You?

Girls.
>
> blAndy

--Bryan

On Aug 9, 11:44 am, Peter A > wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
> > OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> > What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> > with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> > You?
>
> > blAndy
>
> I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
> horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
> with...."
>
> This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

>
>
I've got to agree with Peter. It's redundant and in the same vein as
"My dad, he went to the store." We already know he's a man when we
were told it was your dad. No need to reinforce his sex by adding he.

But to get back to your question of what I think about while doing
dishes? I think about people who post stupid questions on
rec.food.cooking such as "what do you think about while doing
dishes." Also, I wonder how they learned to spell so badly when using
abbreviations. Example: ect.ect.

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:45:35 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> I think about how far to turn up the volume on the TV to drown out the
>> noise of the diswasher.
>>
>
>Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it and have a
>conversation in a normal voice.

We looked at Bosch when we bought ours 10 years ago. The ones then did
not have an energy-saving dryer cycle, which is the only drying cycle
we use. I understand the new ones have that, so we'll take another
look if this one goes out.

blAndy wrote:
>
> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> You?

I wonder how long it is going to take her to finish.

Ducking and running
:-)


But seriously..... I do most of the cooking and my wife washes the dishes.
I do them occasionally. I have a nice view out my kitchen window. My
neighbour has a 5 acre front lawn and I can't even see his house looking
out the window. Past his lawn is a nice tree nursery, and beyond that is a
hardwood forest. Once in a while I see deer pr turkeys roaming around.

"itsjoannotjoann" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Aug 9, 11:44 am, Peter A > wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>
>> > OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>>
>> > What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
>> > with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>>
>> > You?
>>
>> > blAndy
>>
>> I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
>> horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
>> with...."
>>
>> This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")
>>
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
>>
>>
> I've got to agree with Peter. It's redundant and in the same vein as
> "My dad, he went to the store." We already know he's a man when we
> were told it was your dad. No need to reinforce his sex by adding he.
>
> But to get back to your question of what I think about while doing
> dishes? I think about people who post stupid questions on
> rec.food.cooking such as "what do you think about while doing
> dishes." Also, I wonder how they learned to spell so badly when using
> abbreviations. Example: ect.ect.

Are you sure it's "learned"? Shouldn't it be 'learnt' or 'larnt'?
Dee Dee

In article >, cathy1234
@mailinator.com says...
> Peter A wrote:
>
> >
> > I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
> > horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
> > with...."
> >
> > This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")
> >
> >
> Do you know what *I* wonder, Peter? Why the heck *you* even care about
> grammar so much on Usenet.
> Go and get a job as a proof reader or something. Sheesh.
>

English is a beautiful language, capable of great subtlety and
expressiveness. If you want to say something, say it well. I realize
that usenet is not the Princeton English department, but most everyone
here has at least finished high school with its required English
classes. Were you sleeping?

If I make a grammatical error in a post (which I am sure I do) and
someone points it out, I am grateful for the chance to learn something
and improve my writing. Others, apparently, are happy to ignore such
advice and, with false pride, continue writing like a slow 5th grader
(your writing is not so bad, actually, but some other people are just
horrid).

If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have something
interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything like
that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.

--
Peter Aitken

>
>
> But seriously..... I do most of the cooking and my wife washes the dishes.
> I do them occasionally. I have a nice view out my kitchen window. My
> neighbour has a 5 acre front lawn and I can't even see his house looking
> out the window. Past his lawn is a nice tree nursery, and beyond that is a
> hardwood forest. Once in a while I see deer pr turkeys roaming around.

Same type of thing where I live, Dave. Do you have any of these?
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4p10683
He he!
Dee Dee

Dee Dee wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > But seriously..... I do most of the cooking and my wife washes the dishes.
> > I do them occasionally. I have a nice view out my kitchen window. My
> > neighbour has a 5 acre front lawn and I can't even see his house looking
> > out the window. Past his lawn is a nice tree nursery, and beyond that is a
> > hardwood forest. Once in a while I see deer pr turkeys roaming around.
>
> Same type of thing where I live, Dave. Do you have any of these?
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4p10683


What is that..... a Black Mambo? Nope. There are places within 10 miles
or so where there is the odd rattlesnake, but most of the local snakes are
quite harmless to people. There certainly aren't any that are big enough to
see from a few hundred yards. :-)

Peter A wrote:

>
> English is a beautiful language, capable of great subtlety and
> expressiveness. If you want to say something, say it well. I realize
> that usenet is not the Princeton English department, but most everyone
> here has at least finished high school with its required English
> classes. Were you sleeping?

Peter, where I went to school, all our final high school examinations
were marked in the UK. I passed both English Language and English
Literature. As the UK is where "The Queen's English" is spoken, I think
I do know a little bit about writing in English.
>
> If I make a grammatical error in a post (which I am sure I do) and
> someone points it out, I am grateful for the chance to learn something
> and improve my writing. Others, apparently, are happy to ignore such
> advice and, with false pride, continue writing like a slow 5th grader
> (your writing is not so bad, actually, but some other people are just
> horrid).
>
> If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have something
> interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything like
> that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
> rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
> insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
> remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.
>

I see lots of grammatical mistakes here too - but I don't lose any sleep
over it, or make it my "mission" to point it out to people. I believe
that if people were interested in improving their grammar, they would go
and join a suitable group.

To use a colloquialism: Chillax in your slax, man.

OBFood: Fillet steak tonight - very rare. It was delicious.

--
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Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Dave Smith wrote:

>
>
> But seriously..... I do most of the cooking and my wife washes the dishes.
> I do them occasionally. I have a nice view out my kitchen window. My
> neighbour has a 5 acre front lawn and I can't even see his house looking
> out the window. Past his lawn is a nice tree nursery, and beyond that is a
> hardwood forest. Once in a while I see deer pr turkeys roaming around.

In the mornings, I see the small birds come and perch on the veranda
railing and "chirp" at me. (We usually feed them wild birdseed and when
they see me through the window they come to remind me that they are very
hungry....) Sometimes I see an Ibis or two - and several pairs of
crowned plovers have moved in. Oh, and plenty of guinea fowl too.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

"Peter A" > wrote in message
...
>
> If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still have something
> interesting to say. I don't want to be a "grammar nazi" or anything like
> that. My goal is not to say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but
> rather to say "perhaps you would like to know this." Unfortunately,
> insecure people are so touchy about any criticism, they would rather
> remain ignorant than learn something new because of their stupid pride.
> --
> Peter Aitken

Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their grammatical
errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they would appreciate your
criticism, you could email them or post a grammar hint in a separate thread
addressed to the newsgroup as a whole.

I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted a
general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.

Examples:
"An antiques dealer is one who deals in antiques; an antique dealer is
one who is at least 100 years old and is unlikely to be dealing in
anything."
"The period belongs within the quotation marks. Period. Take it from the
women's editor, who knows all about periods."

Felice
who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
:-)

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I have seen too many Usenet posts complaining about spelling or grammar
> which are full of errors. We have to remember what they say about throwing
> stones in a glass house.

Quite so.

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Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Felice Friese wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their grammatical
> errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they would appreciate your
> criticism, you could email them or post a grammar hint in a separate thread
> addressed to the newsgroup as a whole.
>
> I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
> grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted a
> general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.
>
> Examples:
> "An antiques dealer is one who deals in antiques; an antique dealer is
> one who is at least 100 years old and is unlikely to be dealing in
> anything."
> "The period belongs within the quotation marks. Period. Take it from the
> women's editor, who knows all about periods."
>
> Felice
> who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
> :-)

I have seen too many Usenet posts complaining about spelling or grammar
which are full of errors. We have to remember what they say about throwing
stones in a glass house.

On Aug 9, 1:32 pm, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:

> Also, I wonder how they learned to spell so badly when using
> abbreviations. Example: ect.ect.-

In this particular case, I think it's because most people don't know
that
etc. is the abbreviation for et cetera. Once you know that, it's much
more difficult to get it wrong (apart from simply transposing it on
the
keyboard, but I don't think this combination lends itself to that as
well
as some other combinations of keys).

Cindy Hamilton

writes:
>On Aug 9, 1:32 pm, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
>
>> Also, I wonder how they learned to spell so badly when using
>> abbreviations. Example: ect.ect.-
>
>In this particular case, I think it's because most people don't know
>that
>etc. is the abbreviation for et cetera. Once you know that, it's much
>more difficult to get it wrong (apart from simply transposing it on
>the
>keyboard, but I don't think this combination lends itself to that as
>well
>as some other combinations of keys).
>
>Cindy Hamilton


I think it's because "ekt" is easier to say than "etik". :-D

blAndy

Felice Friese wrote:

>
> Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their grammatical
> errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they would appreciate your
> criticism, you could email them or post a grammar hint in a separate thread
> addressed to the newsgroup as a whole.

Heh. I think that a "grammar hint thread" would be about as popular as a
pork chop in a Synagogue around here, as it would have to be considered
OT - and you know how people just "love" OT posts in this newsgroup.

>
> I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a reporter's
> grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them privately or posted a
> general note (usually light in tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.
>
> Examples:
> "An antiques dealer is one who deals in antiques; an antique dealer is
> one who is at least 100 years old and is unlikely to be dealing in
> anything."
> "The period belongs within the quotation marks. Period. Take it from the
> women's editor, who knows all about periods."

LOL! Good examples.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> Felice Friese wrote:
> >
> >
> > Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having their
> > grammatical errors corrected in public. If you truly feel they
> > would appreciate your criticism, you could email them or post a
> > grammar hint in a separate thread addressed to the newsgroup as a
> > whole.
> >
> > I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a
> > reporter's grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to them
> > privately or posted a general note (usually light in tone) on the
> > newsroom bulletin board.
> >
> > Examples:
> > "An antiques dealer is one who deals in antiques; an antique
> > dealer is one who is at least 100 years old and is unlikely to be
> > dealing in anything."
> > "The period belongs within the quotation marks. Period. Take it
> > from the women's editor, who knows all about periods."
> >
> > Felice
> > who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
> > :-)
>
> I have seen too many Usenet posts complaining about spelling or
> grammar which are full of errors. We have to remember what they say
> about throwing stones in a glass house.

Additionally, many of the "corrections" aren't even pointing out real
grammar errors. Case in point, this talk about redundancies is silly.
It's not a grammatical error to have a redundant word in a sentence. It
may be an indication of poor writing, but if we're going to get into
that stream of nonsense it would be never-ending. Few usenet posts
couldn't use some improvement on that score.

Ending a sentence in a preposition is not grammatically incorrect.
Typically what happens is that a contraction is used earlier and the
preposition is used to round out the sentence. People usually don't say
or write, "Where are you at." What they do produce is, "Where're you
at." Due to the contraction, the sentence feels chopped off, and the
insidious "at" creeps in to finish it.

Now I'm going to boldly go split some infinitives.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Default User wrote:

>
> Now I'm going to boldly go split some infinitives.

Isn't that going to be a bit painful for the infinitives?

--
Cheers
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Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

In article >,
"Felice Friese" > wrote:

> Felice
> who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
> :-)

Uh, don't do that, Fleece. THAT would *seriously* annoy him. I know
this to be fact.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com - story and
pics of Ronald McDonald House dinner posted 6-24-2007

Peter wrote on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:45:35 -0400:

PA> In article >,
PA> says...
??>> I think about how far to turn up the volume on the TV to
??>> drown out the noise of the diswasher.
??>>
PA> Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it
PA> and have a conversation in a normal voice.

It's not the only quiet dishwasher. My Maytag allows normal
conversation while it is running and it's not the only
possibil;ity.


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> "Felice Friese" > wrote:
>
>> Felice
>> who, perhaps, should have sent this by email
>> :-)
>
> Uh, don't do that, Fleece. THAT would *seriously* annoy him. I know
> this to be fact.

So what? Is the world going to come to an end if Peter gets *seriously*
annoyed, or does he start shooting lightning bolts from his finger tips?
Tell us, tell us! Please!
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Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> But seriously..... I do most of the cooking and my wife washes the
>> dishes. I do them occasionally. I have a nice view out my kitchen window.
>> My
>> neighbour has a 5 acre front lawn and I can't even see his house looking
>> out the window. Past his lawn is a nice tree nursery, and beyond that is
>> a
>> hardwood forest. Once in a while I see deer pr turkeys roaming around.
>
> In the mornings, I see the small birds come and perch on the veranda
> railing and "chirp" at me. (We usually feed them wild birdseed and when
> they see me through the window they come to remind me that they are very
> hungry....) Sometimes I see an Ibis or two - and several pairs of crowned
> plovers have moved in. Oh, and plenty of guinea fowl too.
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy
>

We usually have a family of turkeys roaming around the property and
sometimes quickly flying over our head gives us a fright - I know we've
frightened them. But our real thrill is to have a hawk or a heron fly over
our head. There is at least one of each that live in the woods and near the
Brook.

All of these give such pleasure, of course except Mr. Snake.
Dee Dee

Dee Dee wrote:

>
> We usually have a family of turkeys roaming around the property and
> sometimes quickly flying over our head gives us a fright - I know we've
> frightened them. But our real thrill is to have a hawk or a heron fly over
> our head. There is at least one of each that live in the woods and near the
> Brook.

We see lots of herons after a "veld fire" (brush fire). We had a fairly
serious one on our property last year, and as soon as it had "cooled
down" the herons appeared from nowhere in droves... I think they like to
look for the dead inhabitants, or whatever. We lost the grass owls after
that fire too - they left. Hoping they'll come back this year.
>
> All of these give such pleasure, of course except Mr. Snake.

Yup. Snakes are not one my favourite creatures either.

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Felice wrote on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:26:31 -0400:


FF> "Peter A" > wrote in message
FF> ...
??>>
??>> If people write sloppy English, so be it - they may still
??>> have something interesting to say. I don't want to be a
??>> "grammar nazi" or anything like that. My goal is not to
??>> say "Hey stupid, I'm smarter than you" but rather to say
??>> "perhaps you would like to know this."
??>> Unfortunately, insecure people are so touchy about any
??>> criticism, they would rather remain ignorant than learn
??>> something new because of their stupid pride. -- Peter
??>> Aitken

FF> Perhaps, Peter, people are simply "touchy" about having
FF> their grammatical errors corrected in public. If you truly
FF> feel they would appreciate your criticism, you could email
FF> them or post a grammar hint in a separate thread addressed
FF> to the newsgroup as a whole.

FF> I am a retired newspaper editor and never once corrected a
FF> reporter's grammar within anyone else's hearing. I spoke to
FF> them privately or posted a general note (usually light in
FF> tone) on the newsroom bulletin board.

I agree Peter. Grammatical correction should be done privately,
not in public, especially since many of the self-confident
pundits are often just plain wrong. Unsolicited public
correction of a person's grammar is frequently just bad manners.
I don't know if anyone can guarantee that they never make
mistakes either while speaking or writing to news groups.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Default User wrote:
>
>
> Ending a sentence in a preposition is not grammatically incorrect.

It is acceptable if there is no alternative. To ask "Where are you at?" is
redundant, and therefore not necessary.


> Typically what happens is that a contraction is used earlier and the
> preposition is used to round out the sentence. People usually don't say
> or write, "Where are you at." What they do produce is, "Where're you
> at." Due to the contraction, the sentence feels chopped off, and the
> insidious "at" creeps in to finish it.

It is often somewhat amusing to listen to people with bad grammar trying to
make things sound proper but not being able to pull it off.

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> Dee Dee wrote:
>
>>
>> We usually have a family of turkeys roaming around the property and
>> sometimes quickly flying over our head gives us a fright - I know we've
>> frightened them. But our real thrill is to have a hawk or a heron fly
>> over our head. There is at least one of each that live in the woods and
>> near the Brook.
>
> We see lots of herons after a "veld fire" (brush fire). We had a fairly
> serious one on our property last year, and as soon as it had "cooled down"
> the herons appeared from nowhere in droves... I think they like to look
> for the dead inhabitants, or whatever. We lost the grass owls after that
> fire too - they left. Hoping they'll come back this year.
>>
>> All of these give such pleasure, of course except Mr. Snake.
>
> Yup. Snakes are not one my favourite creatures either.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

I had to rush back to the computer to say this --
After writing above a moment ago, I went into the kitchen to fill a big pot
of water, looked out the window and saw a big, big turkey grazing. Isn't
that coincidental - I love it when things like this happen.
Dee Dee

Dee Dee wrote:

>
> We usually have a family of turkeys roaming around the property and
> sometimes quickly flying over our head gives us a fright - I know we've
> frightened them. But our real thrill is to have a hawk or a heron fly over
> our head. There is at least one of each that live in the woods and near the
> Brook.
>
This is the view from my kitchen. It was taken about two years ago when
they were ripping out the apple and pear trees to prepare it for a nursery.

http://i10.tinypic.com/6b40a4j.jpg

On Aug 9, 9:44 am, Peter A > wrote:
>
> I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
> horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
> with...."
>
> This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")

No, it's not. "Me, I...." is an ellipsis, where the omitted but
understood words are, "as for." I.e., "As for me, I think ...." Not
a bit unusual, and certainly not a bit incorrect. "Where are you
at?", unless meant to be humorous, is just wrong. -aem

Dave Smith wrote:

> Default User wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ending a sentence in a preposition is not grammatically incorrect.
>
> It is acceptable if there is no alternative. To ask "Where are you
> at?" is redundant, and therefore not necessary.

But not grammatically incorrect. Just redundant.

> > Typically what happens is that a contraction is used earlier and the
> > preposition is used to round out the sentence. People usually don't
> > say or write, "Where are you at." What they do produce is,
> > "Where're you at." Due to the contraction, the sentence feels
> > chopped off, and the insidious "at" creeps in to finish it.
>
> It is often somewhat amusing to listen to people with bad grammar
> trying to make things sound proper but not being able to pull it off.

Using a contraction is not bad grammar. Using one in the case mentioned
above leads to a redunancy, and therefore possibly bad writing, but not
a violation of any rules of grammar.



Brian

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On Aug 9, 11:45 am, Peter A > wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
> > I think about how far to turn up the volume on the TV to drown out the
> > noise of the diswasher.
>
> Get a Bosch dishwasher, you can stand right in front of it and have a
> conversation in a normal voice.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

The same is true of my new GE. I can't tell if it's running or not,
unless I put my ear down close to the door.

N.

On Aug 9, 12:08 pm, blAndy > wrote:
> writes:
> >In article >, says...
> >> OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> >> What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> >> with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> >> You?
>
> >> blAndy
>
> >I wonder why people write things like "Me, I" when it is a grammatical
> >horror and totally unneeded to get your meaning across. "I come up
> >with...."
>
> >This is in the same league as "Where are you at?" (lose the "at")

Or, "in back of," which is cringe-worthy.

>
> You forgot the period at the end of you're second sentence. :-D

"you're?" Try again.

N.

On Aug 9, 12:42 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> blAndy wrote:
>
> > OK r.f.c folks, here's a kinda/sort OT question!!!
>
> > What do you think about when you're washing dishes? Me, I come up
> > with whimsical questions like this one. :-D
>
> > You?
>
> I wonder how long it is going to take her to finish.
>
> Ducking and running
> :-)
>
> But seriously..... I do most of the cooking and my wife washes the dishes.
> I do them occasionally. I have a nice view out my kitchen window. My
> neighbour has a 5 acre front lawn and I can't even see his house looking
> out the window. Past his lawn is a nice tree nursery, and beyond that is a
> hardwood forest. Once in a while I see deer pr turkeys roaming around.

Where I live (totally urban), one can see deer every day, up close and
personal. They're a horrible nuisance. Yes, I know we are in their
territory, but they need birth control so they don't starve to death.

N.