Nancy Young wrote:
>
>
> I have a little device I completely forgot about. It would
> intercept those telemarketers who used machines to dial.
> That was a lifesaver. Tele-Zapper. Before that, I wound
> up hanging up on anyone who didn't speak the instant I picked
> up the phone. I hear that little silence while the telemarketing
> dialer is checking to see if I'm a live one and I'd hang up.
>
> My friends understood.
>

I used to get several calls a week where a telemarketer firm would call and
their computer would put me on hold while it looked for an available staff.
Sometimes they would hang up after about 10 seconds, but when a person
finally came on line I would keep them waiting.... and depending on how
many hang-ups I had had in the previous few days I would give them a blast
for them hanging up on me. BTW... according to my call display it was the
same number calling.

Omelet wrote:
> In article >, sf wrote:

>> I saw something on HGTV today.... two layers of asphalt. The first
>> layer was continuous and provided a level base. The second layer
>> began with 2 x 4s laid in some sort of pattern and move asphalt, then
>> the top was an asphalt stain that looked like concrete. After that
>> they removed the 2 x 4s and filled the space with small river rocks.
>> It looked great!
>
> But sounds expensive. :-(



It sounds very pretty but the devil to keep free of dirt, leaves, etc.
between the rocks, and impossible to shovel snow off.

gloria p

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> There's a Do Not Call Registry for the U.S., can't speak for Europe or
>> the
>> U.K. It's good for 5 years, IIRC.
>>
>
> There is one in Canada too and I am on it, but I still get calls. One
> particular company was calling once a week with a computerized message
> about someone in the house having entered a contest at a local mall for a
> free vacation ... push 1 for further information. I used to hang up. After
> several more calls I pushed 1 and asked why they are calling and said
> that
> I was on the do not call register. No problem..... hold the line and you
> can enter your number in our do not call registry. The next week they
> called again. This time I blasted the woman for calling and told her to
> take my name of their list. She refused because I wasn't polite. I beg
> your
> pardon, but continuing to call me weekly after I have asked them to stop
> and to take me off their list is not going to get them any sales. But when
> she she once again refused to take my name off the list until I apologized
> and talked nicely to her. So I screamed at her to go **** herself and
> asked if that was nice enough to get the message.
>
>
> The Canadian government recently proposed a new law for Do Not Call lists.
> It is next to useless. It exempts politicians, charities, newspapers and
> magazines, pollsters and companies with which you have had a business
> relationship. That means that 99% of the telephone soliciting we get will
> be exempt, so it really doesn't help much.

Sorry-the local Atty General.

Dave Smith wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>
>> There's a Do Not Call Registry for the U.S., can't speak for Europe or the
>> U.K. It's good for 5 years, IIRC.
>>
>
> There is one in Canada too and I am on it, but I still get calls. One
> particular company was calling once a week with a computerized message
> about someone in the house having entered a contest at a local mall for a
> free vacation ... push 1 for further information. I used to hang up. After
> several more calls I pushed 1 and asked why they are calling and said that
> I was on the do not call register. No problem..... hold the line and you
> can enter your number in our do not call registry. The next week they
> called again. This time I blasted the woman for calling and told her to
> take my name of their list. She refused because I wasn't polite. I beg your
> pardon, but continuing to call me weekly after I have asked them to stop
> and to take me off their list is not going to get them any sales. But when
> she she once again refused to take my name off the list until I apologized
> and talked nicely to her. So I screamed at her to go **** herself and
> asked if that was nice enough to get the message.
>
>
> The Canadian government recently proposed a new law for Do Not Call lists.
> It is next to useless. It exempts politicians, charities, newspapers and
> magazines, pollsters and companies with which you have had a business
> relationship. That means that 99% of the telephone soliciting we get will
> be exempt, so it really doesn't help much.

The US do not call list has the same exemptions. However it has a
requirement that you can ask a business to call you only for non
marketing purposes. Its been at least a few years since the do not call
list started and solicitation calls have dropped from 3/night to next to
maybe 3/year.

In article . com>,
merryb > wrote:

> > Yeah, I'm considering the round-up but it only lasts just so long.
> > I have to be very careful that I don't hit the border garden plants.
>
> Om, have you ever tried vinegar? I've had really good luck with a
> spray bottle filled with full strength vinegar on weeds/ dandelions.

Hm, no, and it'd be more bio-friendly.
Vinegar by the gallon is cheap too.

I'll give that a try and report back. Thanks!
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In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> >
> >> > I follow the "Old religion".
> >> >
> >> > That is even more fun if you are well versed in religious history.
> >> > --
> >> > Peace, Om
> >>
> >> Asking, hesitating-ly -- Old religion?
> >> Dee Dee
> >
> > Modern Neopaganism.
> >
> > Ancient goddess worship pre-dates Christianity by thousands of years.
> > --
> > Peace, Om
> >
> Om, so many dimensions. You are indeed an enigma. :-)
> Dee Dee

Thank you! :-)

That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me all week! ;-D
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:40:02 -0400, T wrote:
>
> > In article >, ost
> > says...
> >> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:44:45 -0400, BOB wrote:
> >>
> >>> I haven't received
> >>> a call in about a year, and it started dwindling since I started using
> >>> these
> >>> tactics. I don't care if any of these things are true or not, they don't
> >>> know either.
> >>
> >> If they're female, I ask them what they're wearing and if they
> >> prefer thongs or briefs.
> >>
> >> And they often have the nerve to get upset.
> >
> > So what about the times they don't get upset. Must make for some
> > interesting calls.
>
> I've gone pretty far when I'm at home. At work it's kinda
> awkward, being in a cubicle and all.
>
> -sw

Just breathe heavy. ;-)
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>,
Puester > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >, sf wrote:
>
> >> I saw something on HGTV today.... two layers of asphalt. The first
> >> layer was continuous and provided a level base. The second layer
> >> began with 2 x 4s laid in some sort of pattern and move asphalt, then
> >> the top was an asphalt stain that looked like concrete. After that
> >> they removed the 2 x 4s and filled the space with small river rocks.
> >> It looked great!
> >
> > But sounds expensive. :-(
>
>
>
> It sounds very pretty but the devil to keep free of dirt, leaves, etc.
> between the rocks, and impossible to shovel snow off.
>
> gloria p

I'm just sick of messing with weeds. They are very difficult to remove
from a gravel driveway.

I'm going to try the vinegar thing mentioned in another post.
It's cheaper than roundup anyway.
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In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> > Get an answering machine and screen calls.
> > Your friends will understand.
>
> That could work, but I resent the idea that I need to screen my calls
> because of telemarketers.

I understand totally, but sometimes I bow to the inevitable.

The people I REALLY care about talking to get to have my cellphone
number.

Not even all of my co-workers get that. ;-) Just my boss and the
assistant lead. She's good about sending me e-mails if it's something
important.

It's a pre-paid Tracfone, so it really does matter.
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In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "Julia Altshuler" > wrote
>
> > I want to be able to hear the phone ring, answer it, and find a person on
> > the other end who knows me personally I want to speak to.
>
> I have a little device I completely forgot about. It would
> intercept those telemarketers who used machines to dial.
> That was a lifesaver. Tele-Zapper. Before that, I wound
> up hanging up on anyone who didn't speak the instant I picked
> up the phone. I hear that little silence while the telemarketing
> dialer is checking to see if I'm a live one and I'd hang up.
>
> My friends understood.
>
> nancy

My friends will talk to my answering machine to see if I am there. ;-)
They know I use it to screen home calls. If I don't pick up, then they
call my cell.

I don't have the voice mail set up, but the phone itself records missed
calls so I don't need it if I don't have the cell on me at the time. I
don't take it out to the kitchen or yard all the time, but the main line
is in the kitchen and I DO pick up if I am out there.

I do not hesitate to hang up on telemarketers any more.

I return missed calls when I check my cell phone. I check it more often
than the machine...
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Omelet wrote:
>
>
>
> My friends will talk to my answering machine to see if I am there. ;-)
> They know I use it to screen home calls. If I don't pick up, then they
> call my cell.

My sister in law uses her answering machine to screen calls. I have been
there when her son and daughters and other friends have called and asked
her to pick up, but she doesn't. Whenever we used to call her we got the
machine. So I don't call. I am not going to waste a long distance call just
to get the machine.

Omelet wrote:
>
> Not even all of my co-workers get that. ;-) Just my boss and the
> assistant lead. She's good about sending me e-mails if it's something
> important.

My boss tried to get my cell phone number. I wouldn't give it to him. All
the calls and air time would be long distance and at my expense I figured
if he needed to get hold of me for business he could get me a cell phone.
He got them for some of my co workers, and there was one in the vehicle I
drove most of the time. It could have been exchanged for a portable one.
The down side was that he would have been able to get hold of me on coffee
and lunch breaks like my co-workers.

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > My friends will talk to my answering machine to see if I am there. ;-)
> > They know I use it to screen home calls. If I don't pick up, then they
> > call my cell.
>
> My sister in law uses her answering machine to screen calls. I have been
> there when her son and daughters and other friends have called and asked
> her to pick up, but she doesn't. Whenever we used to call her we got the
> machine. So I don't call. I am not going to waste a long distance call just
> to get the machine.

Then she is not using it right. :-)

I will ALWAYS pick up for family members!
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In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > Not even all of my co-workers get that. ;-) Just my boss and the
> > assistant lead. She's good about sending me e-mails if it's something
> > important.
>
> My boss tried to get my cell phone number. I wouldn't give it to him. All
> the calls and air time would be long distance and at my expense I figured
> if he needed to get hold of me for business he could get me a cell phone.
> He got them for some of my co workers, and there was one in the vehicle I
> drove most of the time. It could have been exchanged for a portable one.
> The down side was that he would have been able to get hold of me on coffee
> and lunch breaks like my co-workers.

My boss is one of the few that get my cell number.

But. he is not one to abuse it. So far, he has not called me on it.

He calls me at work when I am there, or shows up, or asks me to stay
late. Or he goes thru the assistant boss and she e-mails me. I'm very
responsive to e-mails.

I have a good boss.
For once, he's not an ass hole. :-)

A bit demanding, but that pressure comes from above.
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On Aug 13, 3:42 pm, "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> > I follow the "Old religion".
>
> > That is even more fun if you are well versed in religious history.
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> Asking, hesitating-ly -- Old religion?
> Dee Dee

Gimme that old time religion
Gimme that old time religion
Gimme that old time religion
It's good enough for me

It was good enough for Loki
It was good enough for Loki
He thinks Thor is kind of hokey
But it's good enough for me!

I will _NOT_ type in the other 300,000 verses. Google it and you'll
see what I mean.<G>

maxine in ri

In article .com>,
maxine in ri > wrote:

> On Aug 13, 3:42 pm, "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> > > I follow the "Old religion".
> >
> > > That is even more fun if you are well versed in religious history.
> > > --
> > > Peace, Om
> >
> > Asking, hesitating-ly -- Old religion?
> > Dee Dee
>
> Gimme that old time religion
> Gimme that old time religion
> Gimme that old time religion
> It's good enough for me
>
> It was good enough for Loki
> It was good enough for Loki
> He thinks Thor is kind of hokey
> But it's good enough for me!
>
> I will _NOT_ type in the other 300,000 verses. Google it and you'll
> see what I mean.<G>
>
> maxine in ri

I liked the verse about Aphrodite and the see thru nightie...

and the ones about Dionysus, god of wine and song. ;-)
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Omelet wrote:

> In article .com>,
> maxine in ri > wrote:
>
> > On Aug 13, 3:42 pm, "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> > > > I follow the "Old religion".
> > >
> > > > That is even more fun if you are well versed in religious
> > > > history.
> > > > --
> > > > Peace, Om
> > >
> > > Asking, hesitating-ly -- Old religion?
> > > Dee Dee
> >
> > Gimme that old time religion
> > Gimme that old time religion
> > Gimme that old time religion
> > It's good enough for me
> >
> > It was good enough for Loki
> > It was good enough for Loki
> > He thinks Thor is kind of hokey
> > But it's good enough for me!
> >
> > I will NOT type in the other 300,000 verses. Google it and you'll
> > see what I mean.<G>
> >
> > maxine in ri
>
> I liked the verse about Aphrodite and the see thru nightie...
>
> and the ones about Dionysus, god of wine and song. ;-)

Give me that old solipsim,
Give me that old solipsim,
Give me that old solipsim,
It's good enough for me.

It was good enough for me,
It was good enough for me,
It was good enough for me,
And it's good enough for me.

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On Aug 13, 2:37 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> T > wrote:
> > I wish our switchboard could handle things like that. Our unit has it's
> > own in-dial number, we all have specific extensions, etc. I've explained
> > to her that if someone calls asking for my extension it's good, or they
> > ask for me by my short name, it's good too. Anyone asking by my full
> > name is more than likely trying to sell something.
>
> > I do the same at home, if they ask for Anthony I just hang up.
>
> I take it your friends call you Tony? ;-)
> --
> Peace, Om
>
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>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

No, he's from RI. They call him "Ant-knee."
g,d,&R
maxine in ri

On Aug 14, 1:58 pm, George > wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
>
> >> There's aDoNotCallRegistry for the U.S., can't speak for Europe or the
> >> U.K. It's good for 5 years, IIRC.
>
> > There is one in Canada too and I am on it, but I still get calls. One
> > particular company was calling once a week with a computerized message
> > about someone in the house having entered a contest at a local mall for a
> > free vacation ... push 1 for further information. I used to hang up. After
> > several more calls I pushed 1 and asked why they are calling and said that
> > I was on thedonotcallregister. No problem..... hold the line and you
> > can enter your number in ourdonotcallregistry. The next week they
> > called again. This time I blasted the woman for calling and told her to
> > take my name of theirlist. She refused because I wasn't polite. I beg your
> > pardon, but continuing tocallme weekly after I have asked them to stop
> > and to take me off theirlistisnotgoing to get them any sales. But when
> > she she once again refused to take my name off thelistuntil I apologized
> > and talked nicely to her. So I screamed at her to go **** herself and
> > asked if that was nice enough to get the message.
>
> > The Canadian government recently proposed a new law forDoNotCalllists.
> > It is next to useless. It exempts politicians, charities, newspapers and
> > magazines, pollsters and companies with which you have had a business
> > relationship. That means that 99% of the telephone soliciting we get will
> > be exempt, so it really doesn't help much.
>
> The USdonotcalllisthas the same exemptions. However it has a
> requirement that you can ask a business tocallyou only for non
> marketing purposes. Its been at least a few years since thedonotcallliststarted and solicitation calls have dropped from 3/night to next to
> maybe 3/year.

This is correct. The number of calls has decreased dramatically since
the introduction of the do not call registry in US. The telemarketing
and other calls from Unknown sources didn't completely stop though...
Use http://800notes.com/ and http://whocallsme.com/ to check who is
calling before answering an unknown call.

wrote on Thu, 30 Aug 2007
08:45:44 -0700:
??>> The USdonotcalllisthas the same exemptions. However it has
??>> a requirement that you can ask a business tocallyou only
??>> for non marketing purposes. Its been at least a few years
??>> since thedonotcallliststarted and solicitation calls have
??>> dropped from 3/night to next to maybe 3/year.

As well as being on the do-not-call list, I have a general rule
that I hang up on calls if caller ID is blocked. The charity
exemption lets a few dodgy non-profits get thro' particularly
things like "police benefit associations" and the like that may
give 5% of the take to the actual charity in a good year.
Everyone I know who wants to talk to me lets me know who they
are.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:


> As well as being on the do-not-call list, I have a general rule that I
> hang up on calls if caller ID is blocked. The charity exemption lets a
> few dodgy non-profits get thro' particularly things like "police benefit
> associations" and the like that may give 5% of the take to the actual
> charity in a good year. Everyone I know who wants to talk to me lets me
> know who they are.

Ooh, I had one of those bogus "policeman's charity fund associations"
call me up. When I told the solicitor I wasn't interested in
contributing he basically threatened me... "Well, ma'am, you'd better
hope you never need to call a cop for help because we keep lists". I
laughed at him and hung up

Kathleen wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>
>
>> As well as being on the do-not-call list, I have a general rule that
>> I hang up on calls if caller ID is blocked. The charity exemption lets
>> a few dodgy non-profits get thro' particularly things like "police
>> benefit associations" and the like that may give 5% of the take to the
>> actual charity in a good year. Everyone I know who wants to talk to me
>> lets me know who they are.
>
> Ooh, I had one of those bogus "policeman's charity fund associations"
> call me up. When I told the solicitor I wasn't interested in
> contributing he basically threatened me... "Well, ma'am, you'd better
> hope you never need to call a cop for help because we keep lists". I
> laughed at him and hung up
>

I simply ask how "Bob" is doing because I haven't seen him for awhile.
They ask who "Bob" is and I say he is the police chief and thought you
were soliciting on their behalf. Then silence with a deer in headlights
expression if you could see it and then usually something like sorry and
then they hang up.

"Kathleen" > wrote

> James Silverton wrote:

>> As well as being on the do-not-call list, I have a general rule that I
>> hang up on calls if caller ID is blocked. The charity exemption lets a
>> few dodgy non-profits get thro' particularly things like "police benefit
>> associations" and the like that may give 5% of the take to the actual
>> charity in a good year. Everyone I know who wants to talk to me lets me
>> know who they are.
>
> Ooh, I had one of those bogus "policeman's charity fund associations" call
> me up. When I told the solicitor I wasn't interested in contributing he
> basically threatened me... "Well, ma'am, you'd better hope you never need
> to call a cop for help because we keep lists". I laughed at him and hung
> up

I called my local police after one of those calls to make sure it
wasn't them looking for money. Absolutely not, we do not solicit
via phone calls. Thank you.

As James said, many if not all of those phone charity solicitors
only donate pennies on the dollar to the actual charity. How this
is perfectly legal I don't understand, but it is.

nancy

> As James said, many if not all of those phone
> charity solicitors only donate pennies on the
> dollar to the actual charity...

I usually tell them to send the solicitation by mail and I will
consider it. They never do.

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