Dee Dee wrote:

> I know others will get frantic when I mention un-homogenized milk,
> but I really think it makes a difference, in many ways.

Why would anyone get frantic over milk that's not homogenized?

Bob

On 2007-08-16, Bob Terwilliger > wrote:

> Bob, proud owner of a 23-year-old Simac Il Gelataio, still going strong

Nice to know they last that long. If I do get an ice cream maker,
that's the way I'd go. With a name like Gelatiaio, I would hope they
do a good job at making classic Italian gelato, a style of ice cream
I'm very partial to.

nb

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> Bob, proud owner of a 23-year-old Simac Il Gelataio, still going strong

LOL, I still remember the ads on tv. I was 12 at the time
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

"notbob" > wrote in message
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> On 2007-08-16, Bob Terwilliger > wrote:
>
>> Bob, proud owner of a 23-year-old Simac Il Gelataio, still going strong
>
> Nice to know they last that long. If I do get an ice cream maker,
> that's the way I'd go. With a name like Gelatiaio, I would hope they
> do a good job at making classic Italian gelato, a style of ice cream
> I'm very partial to.
>
> nb

I've been trying to figure this one out. Does the gelato compressor machine
have a different configuration or cfm's than a different compressor 'ice
cream' maker?

AFAIK Gelato ice cream is no different than other ice creams other than it
uses milk, but still uses egg.

I've thought about getting an ice cream compressor machine, but AFAICT, you
still have to put it in the freezer to harden up after it comes out of the
compressor machine, unless you like senior-soft.
Dee Dee

On Aug 16, 10:17 am, "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
>
> . ..
>
> > On 2007-08-16, Bob Terwilliger > wrote:
>
> >> Bob, proud owner of a 23-year-old Simac Il Gelataio, still going strong
>
> > Nice to know they last that long. If I do get an ice cream maker,
> > that's the way I'd go. With a name like Gelatiaio, I would hope they
> > do a good job at making classic Italian gelato, a style of ice cream
> > I'm very partial to.
>
> > nb
>
> I've been trying to figure this one out. Does the gelato compressor machine
> have a different configuration or cfm's than a different compressor 'ice
> cream' maker?
>
> AFAIK Gelato ice cream is no different than other ice creams other than it
> uses milk, but still uses egg.

It makes "ice milk," Now known as, "reduced fat ice cream."
>
> I've thought about getting an ice cream compressor machine, but AFAICT, you
> still have to put it in the freezer to harden up after it comes out of the
> compressor machine, unless you like senior-soft.
> Dee Dee

--Bryan

"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
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>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> On 2007-08-16, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> There is nothing to be afraid of....
>>
>> Are you kidding? It's hard enough to keep ice cream out of the house
>> as it is. Bring an ice cream maker into my life and I can kiss all
>> hope of weight control out the window!
>>
>> nb
>
> I have a hard time maintaining weight also, but ice cream every week has
> not raised my weight. I've found that eating home-made vs. store-bought:
> I can eat a half-gallon of store-bought nothing flat; it takes a small
> bowl or small bowl 2x at the most, and I will be satisfied. No binging
> occurs when eating home-made. Strange, huh, just true for me and DH.

You know you're in trouble when you eat ice cream for dinner. Not that I've
ever done such a thing.

TammyM

On Aug 16, 12:02 pm, "TammyM" > wrote:
> "Dee Dee" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On 2007-08-16, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> >>> There is nothing to be afraid of....
>
> >> Are you kidding? It's hard enough to keep ice cream out of the house
> >> as it is. Bring an ice cream maker into my life and I can kiss all
> >> hope of weight control out the window!
>
> >> nb
>
> > I have a hard time maintaining weight also, but ice cream every week has
> > not raised my weight. I've found that eating home-made vs. store-bought:
> > I can eat a half-gallon of store-bought nothing flat; it takes a small
> > bowl or small bowl 2x at the most, and I will be satisfied. No binging
> > occurs when eating home-made. Strange, huh, just true for me and DH.
>
> You know you're in trouble when you eat ice cream for dinner. Not that I've
> ever done such a thing.

I took my wife (who's very thin) and my 5YO son to the frozen custard
stand for dinner yesterday. I didn't have any because I was still
full from pigging out on peaches.
>
> TammyM

--Bryan

The Truthful Assh0le > wrote:
>On Aug 15, 12:42 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>> The Truthful Assh0le > wrote:
>>
>> >On Aug 14, 12:15 am, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>> >> Haagen Dazs is a made up name for an ice cream that was
>> >> developed by marketing formulists back before there were any
>> >> premium ice creams.
>>
>> >> Then people who knew what ice cream really was got
>> >> themselves some marketing geeks to help sell their stuff.
>>
>> >But unlike B&J, they haven't started putting in crap to save on
>> >ingredient costs.
>>
>> http://www.haagen-dazs.com/reserve/
>>
>> What's "reserve" about mix-ins?
>
>A desperate attempt to change the subject to Haagen-Dazs' "marketing"
>because you can't win the quality argument?

No, an iteration of the fact that you're a sucker rather
than a credible critic.

>> HD is a pretentious pile of marketing dreck.
>>
>This argument could go on for a long time, but you're arguing the
>losing side.

You're supposed to move on when you declare victory.

>This isn't about rhetorical skills. If we switched positions, I could
>never defend your position.

Because you're ignorant. If you had a clue, you wouldn't
think HD was the best ice cream.

>You are so completely wrong that anyone
>else who is still reading this thread is probably shaking their head,
>thinking, "I thought that Blair was one of the smart people on
>r.f.cooking. Why is he just digging himself in deeper?"

So after whining ">This isn't about rhetorical skills" you
resort to sophomoric ad hominem and blatant projection.

>> >> Now HD is probably the 5th or 6th best ice cream in any
>> >> case it appears in.
>>
>> >Boy, you must shop at stores with huge varieties of ice cream brands.
>> >So tell me, what nationally known brand is better? How about Edy's/
>> >Dreyer's, who put in "chocolate" chips made with vegetable
>> >shortening? Breyer's, thickened with tara gum to avoid using as much
>> >expensive butterfat? You tell me. Back up your claim. Name 5 or 6.
>>
>> Breyer's has always been icy crap.
>
>Breyer's has an "All Natural" line. B&J doesn't, maybe because it
>would call attention to the fact that some of their ice creams ARE NOT
>all natural, whereas Haagen-Dasz is all natural.

Motor oil is "all natural" too. That doesn't make it
better ice cream than B&J's.

>> Dreyer's is better, and I don't buy their chocolate chip.
>
>Edy's/Dreyer's, which I buy because it's cheap, is not first rate ice
>cream. It isn't in the same league with Haagen-Dazs. Breyer's (icy
>crap) Chocolate Chip is all natural. Too bad Dreyer's can't make the
>same claim. Breyer's (icy crap) Chocolate Chip sounds good right now,
>and we have some in the freezer.

So you confuse "all natural" with quality. You're
illogical. We get that. We actually expected it
once you started ranting about how great HD is.

>> Ben and Jerry's is better by a ton.
>
>They're coasting on a reputation they earned in the past, back when
>they used all natural ingredients. Read this:
>"Ben & Jerry's misleads customers by falsely claiming that some of its
>ice cream and frozen yogurt products are 'All Natural,' when they
>contain artificial flavors, hydrogenated oils, or other factory-made
>substances, according to a complaint filed today by the nonprofit
>Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI). The group wants the
>Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to take enforcement action against
>the company, a unit of the multinational food conglomerate Unilever."
> source-- http://www.cspinet.org/new/200207301.html

Anyone can file a complaint.

Where's the posting showing that CSPI proved that B&J was
mislabelling product?

>If you don't recognize the domain, it's the Center for Science in the
>Public Interest's own website.
>
>> Bluebell is definitely better.
>
>Are you on drugs? The following is for their Butterscotch Nut flavor:
>Ingredients: Milk, cream, sugar, skim milk, roasted almonds (almonds,
>partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt), corn syrup, high fructose
>corn syrup, brown sugar, coconut oil, modified food starch, natural
>and artificial flavor, salt, cellulose gum, vegetable gums (guar,
>carrageenan, carob bean), soy mono- and diglycerides, artificial color
>(includes Red 40).
> source--
>http://www.allbusiness.com/agricultu.../602646-1.html
>
>Haagen-Dazs doesn't put crap like that in their products.

HD isn't better. Ice cream is an artificial combination
of sugar, cow's milk, and chicken ova. Those things don't
occur in any combination, naturally. And in the combination
HD uses, under their process, it doesn't taste as good as
Bluebell.

>> The stuff in the Dove bars is better.
>
>Let's look at the ice cream in the Dove bars:

So far you haven't looked at any ice cream. You've looked
at labels and continued your false presumption that
ingredient lists determine quality.

>Ingredients:
>Ice Cream: Cream, Skim Milk, Milk, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Natural Flavor,
>Mono And Diglycerides, Carob Bean Gum, Guar Gum, Egg Yolks,
>Carrageenan, Beta Carotene.
> source-- http://www.supercow.com/products/icecream/dove.html
>
>Let's see? What do they need the Mono And Diglycerides, Carob Bean
>Gum, Guar Gum and Carrageenan for? Hmmm?

So it doesn't end up being an airy brick that turns to
water, like HD does.

>I like Dove bars, but the ice cream inside is not Haagen-Dazs quality.

No. It's better.

>> There are several small gelato companies stocking locally.
>
>But you wrote, "Now HD is probably the 5th or 6th best ice cream in
>any
>case it appears in." You throw in a few nameless "gelato" companies,
>and insist, I guess, that there are the requisite number "in any case
>[HD] appears in."
>Besides, isn't traditional gelato that diet (reduced fat) ice cream
>(ice milk)?

Every town has local producers that outclass the ice cream
that was invented to satisfy a marketing plan.

>> There's never any need to stoop to buying Haagen Dazs.
>
>More for the rest of us.

No, more just for you.

Ever notice that there's always a full rack of HD, while many
of the B&J's flavors are sold out or nearly so?

They stock those every night.

Seems most people agree that many flavors of B&J are better
than any flavor of HD.

>Haagen-Dazs sets the standard for
>commercially available ice cream.

Are you Mrs. Haagen or Mrs. Dazs?

(Yes, that's a joke. I know it's a joke, because there is
no Mr. Haagen or Mr. Dazs. That's because the two words aren't
names. They aren't even words. They were made up by the
dorks who saw you coming and made up a marketing plan to suck
money out of your pocket while selling you junk instead of
ice cream.)

>B&J used to have high standards as
>well, but after selling out to Unilever, they have dropped into the
>next tier.

Then they're still at least one tier up on Haagen-Dazs.

--Blair

Benign Prostatic Hypertrophy wrote:

>Ever notice that there's always a full rack of HD, while many
>of the B&J's flavors are sold out or nearly so?
>
>They stock those every night.
>
>Seems most people agree that many flavors of B&J are better
>than any flavor of HD.

you're pretty sharp, Blair

I'm gonna keep my eye on you

tert in seattle > wrote:
>you're pretty sharp, Blair
>
>I'm gonna keep my eye on you

Just leave it on the table.

--Blair

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
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>
> Benign Prostatic Hypertrophy wrote:
>
>>Ever notice that there's always a full rack of HD, while many
>>of the B&J's flavors are sold out or nearly so?
>>
>>They stock those every night.
>>
>>Seems most people agree that many flavors of B&J are better
>>than any flavor of HD.
>
> you're pretty sharp, Blair
>
> I'm gonna keep my eye on you

I don't like Ben and Jerry's; they put too much hard, chunky stuff in their
ice cream. I like creamy ice cream. Even more important than the
consistency, Haagen Das seems to have twice the flavor as the cheaper
brands.

Mitch

"Mitch Scherer" > wrote in message
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> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Benign Prostatic Hypertrophy wrote:
>>
>>>Ever notice that there's always a full rack of HD, while many
>>>of the B&J's flavors are sold out or nearly so?
>>>
>>>They stock those every night.
>>>
>>>Seems most people agree that many flavors of B&J are better
>>>than any flavor of HD.
>>
>> you're pretty sharp, Blair
>>
>> I'm gonna keep my eye on you
>
> I don't like Ben and Jerry's; they put too much hard, chunky stuff in
> their ice cream. I like creamy ice cream. Even more important than the
> consistency, Haagen Das seems to have twice the flavor as the cheaper
> brands.
>
> Mitch
>
I'd like to find some (can't remember which, B&J or HD) black walnut that I
had a few years ago. I can still taste it, it was so good. I've tried
making my own, and even bought some black walnut extract, which was
disgusting, and used my own black walnuts, but none of it turned out with
the taste of the B&J or HD. Very disappointing.
Dee Dee

On Aug 18, 12:58 pm, "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> "Mitch Scherer" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> Benign Prostatic Hypertrophy wrote:
>
> >>>Ever notice that there's always a full rack of HD, while many
> >>>of the B&J's flavors are sold out or nearly so?
>
> >>>They stock those every night.
>
> >>>Seems most people agree that many flavors of B&J are better
> >>>than any flavor of HD.
>
> >> you're pretty sharp, Blair
>
> >> I'm gonna keep my eye on you
>
> > I don't like Ben and Jerry's; they put too much hard, chunky stuff in
> > their ice cream. I like creamy ice cream. Even more important than the
> > consistency, Haagen Das seems to have twice the flavor as the cheaper
> > brands.
>
> > Mitch
>
> I'd like to find some (can't remember which, B&J or HD) black walnut that I
> had a few years ago. I can still taste it, it was so good. I've tried
> making my own, and even bought some black walnut extract, which was
> disgusting, and used my own black walnuts, but none of it turned out with
> the taste of the B&J or HD. Very disappointing.


HD has a "flavor finder" on their site:

http://www.haagen-dazs.com/

--Bryan


> Dee Dee