"Omelet" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote
>>
>> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Omelet" > wrote
>> >>
>> >> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> energy
>> >> >> to heat the water.
>> >>
>> >> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on
>> >> > usage.
>> >> >
>> >> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
>> >>
>> >> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
>> >> seconds to put the plates in.
>>
>> > Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>> > meditative.
>>
>> That's fine, no one cares how you do your dishes.
>
> Thank you!!! :-)

>> > Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy.
>> > :-)
>>
>> Less water, and quiet. Some you can't even tell are running.

> I still can't see how running a dishwasher for an hour can use less
> water than running the sink on low for rinsing for 10 minutes,

There's your problem. You think it's running water the whole time.
That using a dishwasher to do dishes uses less water than handwashing
has been proven scientifically. Also, you are not taking into account
that the water a dishwasher uses washes all the dishes I dirty in 3 or 4
days, not some water every day. The more dishes you wash, the more
water you use. I run a full load and it's done with that one small amount
of water.

Regardless, don't use a dishwasher, it's everyone's personal choice,
but don't give dishwashers all these bad attributes they don't deserve.
Ditto self-cleaning ovens. Just you don't use them. No need to
badmouth them.

nancy

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:17:56 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>meditative.

If you find scrubbing the floor and cleaning the toilet meditative
too, please come over to my house. You'd be a most excellent guest.

>
>Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy. :-)

Power.... I'll give you that one - people don't plug in to an
electrical source, but you can save a lot of energy if you don't use
the dry cycle.
Water.... dishwashers use less water.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005...asher_vs_h.php
http://environment.about.com/od/gree...ishwashers.htm
Noise.... we've had several threads recently in rfc about how quiet
modern dishwashers are.



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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
>
> Don't think I've not seriously considered a Roomba or a Scooba.
>
> While I don't mind washing dishes, I HATE trying to keep the damned
> floors clean but still do since I cannot stand cruddy floors.
>
> It's a helluva lot more work.
> --
> Peace, Om
>

I'm always looking for something easier for cleaning floors. I saw a woman
using a Shark stick broom day before yesterday at McDo's, similar looking to
a swiffer dust mop, and I had to have it. I looked online and found nothing
remotely similar. Shopping at Lowe's didn't find it either. Good ole'
Costco -- right there it was.

I do have the Roomba - have had it for quite a while. I turn it loose
downstairs where the whole floor is the same carpet. I pick up around
things, close the door and turn it on and let it run down. Plug it in,
charge it, and it's ready for another room another day.
Not so easy upstairs where there's wood floor and rugs. So I have to use
the Swiffer and DH does the rugs (occasionally).

Dee Dee
(whose floors seem cruddy all the time -- YUK!)

>
> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
> energy
> to heat the water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

We got a new dishwasher about a month or so ago. It's fancy, I think. But
something new on it that I'd never had before is the sanitizer. DH turned
it on by mistake -- I pulled out a 1/2 gallon mason jar -- ouch! This would
be excellent for canning IMO -- of course, I don't really know, but it's
darned hot.

Dee Dee

Omelet wrote:

> Wait for advancements in Robotics. ;-)
>
> "I Robot" comes to mind.
>
> Don't think I've not seriously considered a Roomba or a Scooba.

The Roomba works great every time. I also have the Scooba, and when it
works it does a fantastic job on the floors, but the simplest little
thing, such as the water being too sudsy, and the Scooba will give me an
error message. Sonsabitches...

Becca

In article >, sf wrote:

> If you find scrubbing the floor and cleaning the toilet meditative
> too, please come over to my house. You'd be a most excellent guest.
>

Last time I was a house guest, I washed the dishes AND the broiler pan.

<G>

I also purchased the main entree... (cornish game hens)
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In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Ophelia" > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>> In article >,
> >>> "Ophelia" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >>>> news > >>>>>>
> >>>>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
> >>>>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
> >>>>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a
> >>>> lot of money thanks
> >>>
> >>> Heh!
> >>>
> >>> It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem
> >>> to thing they are the cats meow.
> >>>
> >>> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you
> >>> run a cycle, even with all the windows open.
> >>>
> >>> I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old
> >>> fashioned way.
> >>
> >> Yep me too. David cleans ours)))
> >
> > Easy off. ;-)
> >
> > And slave labor. <G> (just kidding!!!)
>
> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>

If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
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In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> >
> > Don't think I've not seriously considered a Roomba or a Scooba.
> >
> > While I don't mind washing dishes, I HATE trying to keep the damned
> > floors clean but still do since I cannot stand cruddy floors.
> >
> > It's a helluva lot more work.
> > --
> > Peace, Om
> >
>
> I'm always looking for something easier for cleaning floors. I saw a woman
> using a Shark stick broom day before yesterday at McDo's, similar looking to
> a swiffer dust mop, and I had to have it. I looked online and found nothing
> remotely similar. Shopping at Lowe's didn't find it either. Good ole'
> Costco -- right there it was.
>
> I do have the Roomba - have had it for quite a while. I turn it loose
> downstairs where the whole floor is the same carpet. I pick up around
> things, close the door and turn it on and let it run down. Plug it in,
> charge it, and it's ready for another room another day.
> Not so easy upstairs where there's wood floor and rugs. So I have to use
> the Swiffer and DH does the rugs (occasionally).
>
> Dee Dee
> (whose floors seem cruddy all the time -- YUK!)

What do you think of the Scooba concept?
It's newer than the Roomba.

I don't have any carpets and recently did purchase a floor cleaner
similar to a rug shampooer. It's been great.
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In article >,
Becca > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Wait for advancements in Robotics. ;-)
> >
> > "I Robot" comes to mind.
> >
> > Don't think I've not seriously considered a Roomba or a Scooba.
>
> The Roomba works great every time. I also have the Scooba, and when it
> works it does a fantastic job on the floors, but the simplest little
> thing, such as the water being too sudsy, and the Scooba will give me an
> error message. Sonsabitches...
>
> Becca

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
Some of the Scooba promotionals come with a basic Roomba for free.
They recommend that you run it first.
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Omelet wrote:
>>
>> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
>
> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D

You gotta be kidding.. right??????????????? ))

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:17:56 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote
>>
>> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>>
>> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
>> >> energy
>> >> to heat the water.
>>
>> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
>> >
>> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
>>
>> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
>> seconds to put the plates in.
>>
>> nancy
>
>Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>meditative.
>

you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?

your pal,
blake

In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
> >
> > If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>
> You gotta be kidding.. right??????????????? ))

<winks>
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> >meditative.
> >
>
> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
>
> your pal,
> blake

Only if I do Kegels...
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>> >meditative.
>> >
>>
>> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Only if I do Kegels...
> --
> Peace, Om
>

I'd never heard of Kegels -- but DH & I go to the same clinic year after
year for a yearly diagnostic. (No, we're not autos.) One year about 10
years ago, the doctor was running down his list of questions, never looking
up or giving me a moment to answer. Somehow it was mistakenly opined that I
do regular Kegel exercises. It continues to be in my diagnostic evaluation
report each year that I do them regularly. I get a chuckle everytime I see
it.

Regarding medical privileged information, if another doctor ever mentions it
to me that it is in a report that I use these, I'll know that my records
must be available.
Dee Dee

In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> >> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> >> >meditative.
> >> >
> >>
> >> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> > Only if I do Kegels...
> > --
> > Peace, Om
> >
>
> I'd never heard of Kegels -- but DH & I go to the same clinic year after
> year for a yearly diagnostic. (No, we're not autos.) One year about 10
> years ago, the doctor was running down his list of questions, never looking
> up or giving me a moment to answer. Somehow it was mistakenly opined that I
> do regular Kegel exercises. It continues to be in my diagnostic evaluation
> report each year that I do them regularly. I get a chuckle everytime I see
> it.
>
> Regarding medical privileged information, if another doctor ever mentions it
> to me that it is in a report that I use these, I'll know that my records
> must be available.
> Dee Dee

There are many benefits to doing them, for both men and women. :-)
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
>>>
>>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>>
>> You gotta be kidding.. right??????????????? ))
>
> <winks>

hehehehe

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>
>> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
>
>If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D

Does this mean you're *not* coming over?


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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
>>
>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>
> Does this mean you're *not* coming over?

Who?

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:33:57 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
>>>
>>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>>
>> Does this mean you're *not* coming over?
>
>Who?
>
Her! <motioning head in *that* direction> The one who likes to wash
dishes and I was hoping did floors and toilets too.

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> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:33:57 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
>>>>
>>>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>>>
>>> Does this mean you're *not* coming over?
>>
>>Who?
>>
> Her! <motioning head in *that* direction> The one who likes to wash
> dishes and I was hoping did floors and toilets too.

LOL gotcha)))

Omelet wrote:

> Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
> Some of the Scooba promotionals come with a basic Roomba for free.
> They recommend that you run it first.

The Scooba instructions say to run the Scooba on a unswept floor. If you
have rocks or pebbles, they suggest you pick those up. It works great,
when it doesn't give me problems. I got angry at it one day and I put
it in the garage. The next day, I brought it back in the house and I
gave it a hug. <g>

Becca

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:57:49 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>> >meditative.
>> >
>>
>> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>Only if I do Kegels...

multi-tasking forever!

your pal,
blake

In article >, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > "Ophelia" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
> >
> >If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>
> Does this mean you're *not* coming over?

I'll do dishes, but floors are a drag. ;-)
If I get a scooba eventually, I may loan it to ya!
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In article >, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:33:57 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
> >sf wrote:
> >> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article >,
> >>> "Ophelia" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
> >>>
> >>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
> >>
> >> Does this mean you're *not* coming over?
> >
> >Who?
> >
> Her! <motioning head in *that* direction> The one who likes to wash
> dishes and I was hoping did floors and toilets too.

Commodes are a "must do" job, not a pleasure. ;-) Both dad and I detest
a filthy bathroom, so the toilet gets scrubbed on an "as needed" basis.
Often daily by one or both of us!

I cannot STAND a dirty commode!

I'd rather squat behind a bush than use a filthy gas station restroom.
;-*
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In article >,
Becca > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
> > Some of the Scooba promotionals come with a basic Roomba for free.
> > They recommend that you run it first.
>
> The Scooba instructions say to run the Scooba on a unswept floor. If you
> have rocks or pebbles, they suggest you pick those up. It works great,
> when it doesn't give me problems. I got angry at it one day and I put
> it in the garage. The next day, I brought it back in the house and I
> gave it a hug. <g>
>
> Becca

<lol> I can imagine!

I know a couple that have a Roomba that almost consider it to be a pet.
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:57:49 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> >> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> >> >meditative.
> >> >
> >>
> >> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> >Only if I do Kegels...
>
> multi-tasking forever!
>
> your pal,
> blake

Multi-tasking is a marketable skill. <smirk>
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, sf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:33:57 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean you're *not* coming over?
>>>
>>> Who?
>>>
>> Her! <motioning head in *that* direction> The one who likes to wash
>> dishes and I was hoping did floors and toilets too.
>
> Commodes are a "must do" job, not a pleasure. ;-) Both dad and I
> detest a filthy bathroom, so the toilet gets scrubbed on an "as
> needed" basis. Often daily by one or both of us!
>
> I cannot STAND a dirty commode!
>
> I'd rather squat behind a bush than use a filthy gas station restroom.
> ;-*

OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!! We are very fussy too.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> Omelet wrote:
>> Commodes are a "must do" job, not a pleasure. ;-) Both dad and I
>> detest a filthy bathroom, so the toilet gets scrubbed on an "as
>> needed" basis. Often daily by one or both of us!
>>
>> I cannot STAND a dirty commode!
>>
>> I'd rather squat behind a bush than use a filthy gas station restroom.
>> ;-*
>
> OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!! We are very fussy too.

I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a toilet
bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your toilets never get
dirty!
Forget it! Never mind!
Dee Dee

Dee Dee wrote:
> I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a
> toilet bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your
> toilets never get dirty!
> Forget it! Never mind!
> Dee Dee

Darling Dee Dee. Ask and if we can help we will!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> Dee Dee wrote:
>> I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a
>> toilet bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your
>> toilets never get dirty!
>> Forget it! Never mind!
>> Dee Dee
>
> Darling Dee Dee. Ask and if we can help we will!
OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is probably
stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water that is around and
under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes where the water refills under
this top ring, where it drains down into the bowl. Stainless steel dark
grey.
Pumice stone? Bleach? UGLY!
Hiding my head in shame. I just bought a lovely brush.
http://tinyurl.com/2cm8km

But I know one always needs more elbow grease and chemicals.

Thanks.
Dee Dee

Dee Dee wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dee Dee wrote:
> >> I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a
> >> toilet bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your
> >> toilets never get dirty!
> >> Forget it! Never mind!
> >> Dee Dee
> >
> > Darling Dee Dee. Ask and if we can help we will!
> OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is probably
> stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water that is around and
> under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes where the water refills under
> this top ring, where it drains down into the bowl. Stainless steel dark
> grey.
> Pumice stone? Bleach? UGLY!
> Hiding my head in shame. I just bought a lovely brush.
> http://tinyurl.com/2cm8km
>
> But I know one always needs more elbow grease and chemicals.
>
> Thanks.
> Dee Dee

I'm no plumber . . . . <G> I hope there aren't lead pipes for your
water?! I should think that lead would leach into the water??? But,
that's not the issue here

Anywho, try some CLR (short for Calcium, Lime, & Rust; easily found at
most Walgreens and other stores). I love that stuff! It works
wonders. You could probably put a bit of CLR in the tank, then flush
the toilet to get the CLR+water into the toilet bowl. Afterwards, use
that new brush you bought to scrub it around a bit on those stains. The
CLR has many useful applications.

Another trick I haven't tried yet is to use one of those "magic eraser"
sponges by Mr. Clean, which I _intend_ to try fairly soon. I think that
might work, but I'm not sure.

Sky, the reluctant procrastinating housekeeper

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"Sky" > wrote in message
...

>> OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is probably
>> stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water that is around
>> and
>> under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes where the water refills
>> under
>> this top ring, where it drains down into the bowl. Stainless steel dark
>> grey.
>> Dee Dee
>

> I'm no plumber . . . . <G> I hope there aren't lead pipes for your
> water?! I should think that lead would leach into the water??? But,
> that's not the issue here

DH said we had no lead pipes.

> Anywho, try some CLR (short for Calcium, Lime, & Rust; easily found at
> most Walgreens and other stores). I love that stuff! It works
> wonders. You could probably put a bit of CLR in the tank, then flush
> the toilet to get the CLR+water into the toilet bowl. Afterwards, use
> that new brush you bought to scrub it around a bit on those stains. The
> CLR has many useful applications.

>
> Another trick I haven't tried yet is to use one of those "magic eraser"
> sponges by Mr. Clean, which I _intend_ to try fairly soon. I think that
> might work, but I'm not sure.

I'll look for both -- They're on my list.
>
> Sky, the reluctant procrastinating housekeeper

It's easy to be!

Thanks, Sky!

Dee Dee wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dee Dee wrote:
>>> I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off
>>> a toilet bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your
>>> toilets never get dirty!
>>> Forget it! Never mind!
>>> Dee Dee
>>
>> Darling Dee Dee. Ask and if we can help we will!
> OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is
> probably stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water
> that is around and under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes
> where the water refills under this top ring, where it drains down
> into the bowl. Stainless steel dark grey.
> Pumice stone? Bleach? UGLY!
> Hiding my head in shame. I just bought a lovely brush.
> http://tinyurl.com/2cm8km
>
> But I know one always needs more elbow grease and chemicals.

That is probably limescale Dee Dee. Nothing to be ashamed of You can buy
stuff for it but vinegar should make a difference

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

>> OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is
>> probably stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water
>> that is around and under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes
>> where the water refills under this top ring, where it drains down
>> into the bowl. Stainless steel dark grey.
>> Pumice stone? Bleach? UGLY!
>> Hiding my head in shame. I just bought a lovely brush.
>> http://tinyurl.com/2cm8km
>>
>> But I know one always needs more elbow grease and chemicals.
>
> That is probably limescale Dee Dee. Nothing to be ashamed of You can
> buy stuff for it but vinegar should make a difference

I'll try vinegar first. I use vinegar for just about everything. I'm
allergic to myself almost. I'll try it before I bring in chemicals.

My favorite chemical? Vinegar. Thanks.
Dee Dee

In article >,
says...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dee Dee wrote:
> >> I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a
> >> toilet bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your
> >> toilets never get dirty!
> >> Forget it! Never mind!
> >> Dee Dee
> >
> > Darling Dee Dee. Ask and if we can help we will!
> OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is probably
> stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water that is around and
> under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes where the water refills under
> this top ring, where it drains down into the bowl. Stainless steel dark
> grey.
> Pumice stone? Bleach? UGLY!
> Hiding my head in shame. I just bought a lovely brush.
> http://tinyurl.com/2cm8km
>
> But I know one always needs more elbow grease and chemicals.
>
> Thanks.
> Dee Dee
>
>
>
>

Pickup some CLR and apply liberally. Then brush off what remains. It's
metallic content in most water that creates rust stains, and there is
some calcium in municipal water supplies among other things.

"T" > wrote in message
. ..
> Pickup some CLR and apply liberally. Then brush off what remains. It's
> metallic content in most water that creates rust stains, and there is
> some calcium in municipal water supplies among other things.


We aren't on muni water, but we have a 500' drilled well. Our water is
harder than anyone's I've ever heard of. We spend a lot of money on salt,
then we reverse osmosis that, then we will be distilling some of the reverse
osmosis; IOW the water is so hard that we can't go from well water to
distillation.

The above is no matter to your answer, but just to explain. I just got back
from the big box hardware store and looked at CLR. I didn't get any mainly
because I don't want to put any down my septic system. I don't even like to
use bleach in the septic system. Nor even the 'green cleaner.' It even has
some sort of warning. But I think DH did use bleach and pumice stone at one
time (& elbow grease), but I'm going to try vinegar and the Magic Clean pad
(bought some at the store just a few minutes ago) a few times before I go to
the bleach and pumice stone.

Thanks for your concern.
Dee Dee

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:17:47 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> Dee Dee wrote:
>>> I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a
>>> toilet bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your
>>> toilets never get dirty!
>>> Forget it! Never mind!
>>> Dee Dee
>>
>> Darling Dee Dee. Ask and if we can help we will!
>OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is probably
>stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water that is around and
>under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes where the water refills under
>this top ring, where it drains down into the bowl. Stainless steel dark
>grey.
>Pumice stone? Bleach? UGLY!
>Hiding my head in shame. I just bought a lovely brush.
>http://tinyurl.com/2cm8km
>
>But I know one always needs more elbow grease and chemicals.
>
>Thanks.
>Dee Dee
>
i bought this stuff called 'the works' disinfectant toilet bowl
cleaner at the hardware store, and it works a treat, even if you're
not fastidious enough to clean every day. cleans the hard water ring,
too. and none of this 'leave it on for ten minutes' stuff as with the
other namby-pamby cleaners.

your pal,
mr. clean

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> i bought this stuff called 'the works' disinfectant toilet bowl
> cleaner at the hardware store, and it works a treat, even if you're
> not fastidious enough to clean every day. cleans the hard water ring,
> too. and none of this 'leave it on for ten minutes' stuff as with the
> other namby-pamby cleaners.
>
> your pal,
> mr. clean

Thanks. I'll look for it.
Dee Dee

In article >,
says...
>
> "T" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Pickup some CLR and apply liberally. Then brush off what remains. It's
> > metallic content in most water that creates rust stains, and there is
> > some calcium in municipal water supplies among other things.
>
>
> We aren't on muni water, but we have a 500' drilled well. Our water is
> harder than anyone's I've ever heard of. We spend a lot of money on salt,
> then we reverse osmosis that, then we will be distilling some of the reverse
> osmosis; IOW the water is so hard that we can't go from well water to
> distillation.
>
> The above is no matter to your answer, but just to explain. I just got back
> from the big box hardware store and looked at CLR. I didn't get any mainly
> because I don't want to put any down my septic system. I don't even like to
> use bleach in the septic system. Nor even the 'green cleaner.' It even has
> some sort of warning. But I think DH did use bleach and pumice stone at one
> time (& elbow grease), but I'm going to try vinegar and the Magic Clean pad
> (bought some at the store just a few minutes ago) a few times before I go to
> the bleach and pumice stone.
>
> Thanks for your concern.
> Dee Dee

You've just explained everything. You've probably got iron oxide,
nickle, calcium, and a whole bunch of things coming out of that well.

In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Omelet wrote:
> >> Commodes are a "must do" job, not a pleasure. ;-) Both dad and I
> >> detest a filthy bathroom, so the toilet gets scrubbed on an "as
> >> needed" basis. Often daily by one or both of us!
> >>
> >> I cannot STAND a dirty commode!
> >>
> >> I'd rather squat behind a bush than use a filthy gas station restroom.
> >> ;-*
> >
> > OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!! We are very fussy too.
>
> I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a toilet
> bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your toilets never get
> dirty!
> Forget it! Never mind!
> Dee Dee

<lol> Even with frequent cleanings, hard water rings can be an issue.
They stain too. I still get some hard water deposits at the top where
the water comes into the toilet bowl.

I turn off the water, bail the bowl and go after those with a little
diluted muriatic acid, gloves, good ventilation and a toilet brush.

The CLR suggestion further down in the thread is a workable solution
too, and probably a bit safer.

If you don't let that ring build up too thick, a pot scrubbie (dedicated
ONLY to that use!) works great and is fast.
--
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