Went out to the kitchen a bit ago to finally cook that pork and
broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!

Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had pushed
the "self clean" button. :-(

I'm glad it did not lock.

I shut it off and removed all the pots and pans in there so it'd cool
down faster.

I'm sure that could have caused a fire...

He'll be more careful in the future, I hope! Push button stuff on a
stove is a very bad idea, especially finger pads.
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:50:57 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> Went out to the kitchen a bit ago to finally cook that pork and
> broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!
>
> Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had pushed
> the "self clean" button. :-(
>
> I'm glad it did not lock.
>
> I shut it off and removed all the pots and pans in there so it'd cool
> down faster.
>
> I'm sure that could have caused a fire...
>
> He'll be more careful in the future, I hope! Push button stuff on a
> stove is a very bad idea, especially finger pads.

Perhaps he was trying to collect on the fire insurance and this
was his way of saying he wanted to go to an old folks home.

In article >,
Johnanon > wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:50:57 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
> > Went out to the kitchen a bit ago to finally cook that pork and
> > broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!
> >
> > Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had pushed
> > the "self clean" button. :-(
> >
> > I'm glad it did not lock.
> >
> > I shut it off and removed all the pots and pans in there so it'd cool
> > down faster.
> >
> > I'm sure that could have caused a fire...
> >
> > He'll be more careful in the future, I hope! Push button stuff on a
> > stove is a very bad idea, especially finger pads.
>
> Perhaps he was trying to collect on the fire insurance and this
> was his way of saying he wanted to go to an old folks home.

<lol> Not!!!

This is a first for sure...

We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
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Omelet wrote:

> Went out to the kitchen a bit ago to finally cook that pork and
> broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!
>
> Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had
> pushed the "self clean" button. :-(

Oh, mine won't do clean unless the door is latched and you set a timer
so it knows when to shut off.




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"Omelet" > wrote

> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.

That's not true, unless perhaps someone has used oven cleaner
on it and ruined the finish. Self-clean leaves a beautifully
clean oven, just wipe up a few ashes.

nancy

In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Went out to the kitchen a bit ago to finally cook that pork and
> > broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!
> >
> > Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had
> > pushed the "self clean" button. :-(
>
> Oh, mine won't do clean unless the door is latched and you set a timer
> so it knows when to shut off.
>
>
>
>
> Brian

I thought that's how it was supposed to work too.
Seems it only stayed on a short time, but that was enough to do some
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
>>
> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.

Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
money thanks

"Ophelia" > wrote

> "Omelet" > wrote

>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>
> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
> money thanks

Sorry, but don't believe everything you read. Many people are quite
happy with self-clean ovens and they do a fine job.

nancy

"The Cook" > wrote

> I have used self cleaning ovens since 1968 and would not have any
> other type of oven. My ovens come clean and all that is required is
> to wipe out some ash. There was a continuous clean oven that was not
> worth it. I don't think I have seen one in years.

Not being self-cleaning is a deal breaker for me when it comes
to buying an oven. Forget it, it's not even under consideration. I'm
done with cleaning ovens, not that I ever spent that much time on it.
Even now, I only run the self-clean cycle a couple three times a year.

I wouldn't be without it if it's at all avoidable.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in
:

> I wouldn't be without it if it's at all avoidable.
>
> nancy
>
>
>
>

I feel the same way.

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:12:34 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>
>"Omelet" > wrote in message
>news
>>>
>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>
>Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
>money thanks
>

I have used self cleaning ovens since 1968 and would not have any
other type of oven. My ovens come clean and all that is required is
to wipe out some ash. There was a continuous clean oven that was not
worth it. I don't think I have seen one in years.
--
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48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
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Ophelia wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>
> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
> money thanks
>
>
They actually work well. The usual reason they don't as someone
mentioned is cleaning it with oven cleaner which destroys the coating.

Nancy Young wrote:

>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
>> money thanks
>
> Sorry, but don't believe everything you read. Many people are quite
> happy with self-clean ovens and they do a fine job.
>
> nancy
>
I've never had any complaints with mine and I've never ever seen one
that can be accidentally turned on. The thing *does* get hot, but I just
let it chug along late at night when it won't bother anyone. My oven
probably only needs cleaning once every 18 months or so? I'm a neat
cook. I usually keep spills and overcooking contained with an underpan
on the shelf below the rack I'm using, but not so big that it interferes
with air circulation.
I prefer my self cleaning oven way more than any continuous clean one
I've owned.

In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> >>
> > We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
> > I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
> > Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>
> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
> money thanks

Heh!

It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
thing they are the cats meow.

But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
cycle, even with all the windows open.

I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
way.
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"Omelet" > wrote

> "Ophelia" > wrote:

>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
>> money thanks

> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
> cycle, even with all the windows open.

No they don't, though you need to make sure the windows are
open the first time you use it.

nancy

Nancy wrote on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:10:38 -0400:

??>> "Ophelia" > wrote:

??>>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have
??>>> saved me a lot of money thanks

??>> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days
??>> when you run a cycle, even with all the windows open.

NY> No they don't, though you need to make sure the windows are
NY> open the first time you use it.

We've had electric self-cleaning ovens for over 30 years and
they work very well indeed. It does help to have a working
kitchen extractor fan.

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:06:15 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>
>It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
>thing they are the cats meow.
>
I do - MEOW!

>But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
>cycle, even with all the windows open.
>
It doesn't - if you don't wait until your oven is totally disgusting
to clean it. You DO need a powerful exhaust fan to draw out smell and
I found that a small fan in the doorway helps keep smells out of the
rest of the house if I'm cleaning an oven I've allowed to get nasty.

>I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
>way.

Not me. I love my self cleaning oven, automatic dishwasher, garbage
disposal and washer/dryer set.


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In article >, sf wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:06:15 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
> >thing they are the cats meow.
> >
> I do - MEOW!
>
> >But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
> >cycle, even with all the windows open.
> >
> It doesn't - if you don't wait until your oven is totally disgusting
> to clean it. You DO need a powerful exhaust fan to draw out smell and
> I found that a small fan in the doorway helps keep smells out of the
> rest of the house if I'm cleaning an oven I've allowed to get nasty.
>
> >I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
> >way.
>
> Not me. I love my self cleaning oven, automatic dishwasher, garbage
> disposal and washer/dryer set.

I wash dishes by hand too.
I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.

I'm such a primitive. ;-)
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On 2007-08-15, Omelet > wrote:


> I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.

Me, too! Of course, in my case, it's just sour grapes.

nb

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:09:16 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >, sf wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:06:15 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
>> >thing they are the cats meow.
>> >
>> I do - MEOW!
>>
>> >But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
>> >cycle, even with all the windows open.
>> >
>> It doesn't - if you don't wait until your oven is totally disgusting
>> to clean it. You DO need a powerful exhaust fan to draw out smell and
>> I found that a small fan in the doorway helps keep smells out of the
>> rest of the house if I'm cleaning an oven I've allowed to get nasty.
>>
>> >I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
>> >way.
>>
>> Not me. I love my self cleaning oven, automatic dishwasher, garbage
>> disposal and washer/dryer set.
>
>I wash dishes by hand too.
>I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>
>I'm such a primitive. ;-)

Yes, you are.... either that or you really want a new set of dishes
every year.

So either you're really primitave or really, really smart!



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On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet > wrote:

> I wash dishes by hand too.
> I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.

My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
inside
of the box, either.

And it does it all while I'm at work.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2007-08-15, Omelet > wrote:
>
>
> > I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>
> Me, too! Of course, in my case, it's just sour grapes.
>
> nb

There are only two of us, and the pets.
The pets generate more dishes than the two of us.

Cleaning up takes maybe 10 minutes once or twice per day.

When I cook, I clean up as I go and end up with a clean kitchen before
serving.
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In article >, sf wrote:

> >I'm such a primitive. ;-)
>
> Yes, you are.... either that or you really want a new set of dishes
> every year.
>
> So either you're really primitave or really, really smart!
>

Why do you say a new set of dishes?
Hand-washing them does not hurt them!

We chip or drop/break a dish or bowl only on a very rare basis, and
that's usually one that gets knocked off the counter or some other
equally silly accident. ;-)

I can only think of 2, maybe 3 times where I have broken something
washing it.

I don't break my spectacles when I hand-clean them either, altho' I
finally put a Lanyard on the new pair since they were so bloody
expensive this time.

$430.00 out of pocket. :-(

I still am going to have to look at a pair of OTC reading glasses for
the computer screen...
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In article . com>,
Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > I wash dishes by hand too.
> > I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>
> My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
> It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
> inside
> of the box, either.
>
> And it does it all while I'm at work.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

There are only two of us.

If I had a passle of kids or other relatives living here, I might
reconsider.

The only time I have a mess of dishes is when I have dinner guests, but
my new guest plates were $7.00 each.

I prefer to hand-wash them.
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
>> I wash dishes by hand too.
>> I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>
> My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
> It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
> inside
> of the box, either.
>
> And it does it all while I'm at work.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Now if only they could unload themselves by the time we got home from
work....? LOL

In article >,
Goomba38 > wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >> I wash dishes by hand too.
> >> I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
> >
> > My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
> > It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
> > inside
> > of the box, either.
> >
> > And it does it all while I'm at work.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Now if only they could unload themselves by the time we got home from
> work....? LOL

Wait for advancements in Robotics. ;-)

"I Robot" comes to mind.

Don't think I've not seriously considered a Roomba or a Scooba.

While I don't mind washing dishes, I HATE trying to keep the damned
floors clean but still do since I cannot stand cruddy floors.

It's a helluva lot more work.
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>>>>
>>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
>>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
>>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>>
>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a
>> lot of money thanks
>
> Heh!
>
> It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
> thing they are the cats meow.
>
> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you
> run a cycle, even with all the windows open.
>
> I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
> way.

Yep me too. David cleans ours)))

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:56:37 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >, sf wrote:
>
>> >I'm such a primitive. ;-)
>>
>> Yes, you are.... either that or you really want a new set of dishes
>> every year.
>>
>> So either you're really primitave or really, really smart!
>>
>
>Why do you say a new set of dishes?
>Hand-washing them does not hurt them!
>
>We chip or drop/break a dish or bowl only on a very rare basis, and
>that's usually one that gets knocked off the counter or some other
>equally silly accident. ;-)
>
>I can only think of 2, maybe 3 times where I have broken something
>washing it.


Well, that's not the case with me. Those beasts are slippery and I
break something everyday my dishwasher is out of commission. Good for
me that I approve of dishwashers and dislike washing dishes by hand.


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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:58:08 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article . com>,
> Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
>> On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>>
>> > I wash dishes by hand too.
>> > I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>>
>> My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
>> It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
>> inside
>> of the box, either.
>>
>> And it does it all while I'm at work.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>There are only two of us.

That's why you buy service for eight. Rinse it off and put it in the
dishwasher. When it's full, run it.
>
>If I had a passle of kids or other relatives living here, I might
>reconsider.
>
We do it with just 2 people.

>The only time I have a mess of dishes is when I have dinner guests, but
>my new guest plates were $7.00 each.
>
>I prefer to hand-wash them.

Good grief! I'd put $77 plates in the dishwasher. They make
everything dishwasher safe now.


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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:03:20 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>>
>>> I wash dishes by hand too.
>>> I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>>
>> My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
>> It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
>> inside
>> of the box, either.
>>
>> And it does it all while I'm at work.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>Now if only they could unload themselves by the time we got home from
>work....? LOL

That's what those dishwasher drawers are for. Put one on each side of
the sink. One has the clean dishes, the other takes dirty..... you
never need to put them away.


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On Aug 15, 10:58 am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article . com>,
> Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
> > On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > I wash dishes by hand too.
> > > I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>
> > My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
> > It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
> > inside
> > of the box, either.
>
> > And it does it all while I'm at work.
>
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> There are only two of us.

There are only two of us. I run the dishwasher about 6 times a week.

> If I had a passle of kids or other relatives living here, I might
> reconsider.
>
> The only time I have a mess of dishes is when I have dinner guests, but
> my new guest plates were $7.00 each.

My guests use the same dishes that I do every day. There are no
"good dishes" in this house. (No bad ones, either.)

> I prefer to hand-wash them.

I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
energy
to heat the water.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >, sf wrote:

> >We chip or drop/break a dish or bowl only on a very rare basis, and
> >that's usually one that gets knocked off the counter or some other
> >equally silly accident. ;-)
> >
> >I can only think of 2, maybe 3 times where I have broken something
> >washing it.
>
>
> Well, that's not the case with me. Those beasts are slippery and I
> break something everyday my dishwasher is out of commission. Good for
> me that I approve of dishwashers and dislike washing dishes by hand.

You know that the best pagan high priestesses are known to be klutzes...
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In article >, sf wrote:

> Good grief! I'd put $77 plates in the dishwasher. They make
> everything dishwasher safe now.

$7.00 each, not $77.00 each!

2 to 4 dinner guests. $28.00 to $42.00 to wash.

They really are pretty. Ruby Glass and 14" across.
After doing a file search all I can say is Damn, I need to take a better
pic than the Southern Breakfast pic. ;-)

http://i10.tinypic.com/2djvqt3.jpg

Something a bit more representative as to why it's good to spend the
cash on "big plates". <G>

I do have a pair of cornish in the freezer,

or do I want to do steaks?

Hmmmmmmmmm........
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In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Ophelia" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >> news > >>>>
> >>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
> >>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
> >>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
> >>
> >> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a
> >> lot of money thanks
> >
> > Heh!
> >
> > It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
> > thing they are the cats meow.
> >
> > But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you
> > run a cycle, even with all the windows open.
> >
> > I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
> > way.
>
> Yep me too. David cleans ours)))

Easy off. ;-)

And slave labor. <G> (just kidding!!!)
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> > I prefer to hand-wash them.
>
> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
> energy
> to heat the water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.

I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
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"Omelet" > wrote

> Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

>> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
>> energy
>> to heat the water.

> Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
>
> I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.

You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
seconds to put the plates in.

nancy

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote
>
> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
> >> energy
> >> to heat the water.
>
> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
> >
> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
>
> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
> seconds to put the plates in.
>
> nancy

Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
meditative.

Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy. :-)
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"Omelet" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote
>>
>> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>>
>> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
>> >> energy
>> >> to heat the water.
>>
>> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
>> >
>> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
>>
>> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
>> seconds to put the plates in.

> Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> meditative.

That's fine, no one cares how you do your dishes.
>
> Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy. :-)

Less water, and quiet. Some you can't even tell are running.

nancy

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote
>
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" > wrote
> >>
> >> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
> >> >> energy
> >> >> to heat the water.
> >>
> >> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
> >> >
> >> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
> >>
> >> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
> >> seconds to put the plates in.
>
> > Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> > meditative.
>
> That's fine, no one cares how you do your dishes.

Thank you!!! :-)

> >
> > Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy. :-)
>
> Less water, and quiet. Some you can't even tell are running.
>
> nancy

I still can't see how running a dishwasher for an hour can use less
water than running the sink on low for rinsing for 10 minutes, plus the
very few seconds it takes to heat the water that I use in the soapy
dishpan that it takes literally seconds to fill...

A dishwasher has GOT to burn more electricity!
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>>>
>>>>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
>>>>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
>>>>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a
>>>> lot of money thanks
>>>
>>> Heh!
>>>
>>> It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem
>>> to thing they are the cats meow.
>>>
>>> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you
>>> run a cycle, even with all the windows open.
>>>
>>> I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old
>>> fashioned way.
>>
>> Yep me too. David cleans ours)))
>
> Easy off. ;-)
>
> And slave labor. <G> (just kidding!!!)

Not at all) He does floors and windows too <G>