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Please don't rename threads unless you're changing the topic of
discussion. I don't know how other newsreaders work, but Agent threads posts by title, so now I have a screen FULL of 'can I be your dowager' (Fred) etc mini-threads... there was nothing wrong with the original thread, but now it's broken up into a billion parts instead of neatly together. |
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![]() "Karen AKA Kajikit" > wrote in message ... > Please don't rename threads unless you're changing the topic of > discussion. I don't know how other newsreaders work, but Agent threads > posts by title, so now I have a screen FULL of 'can I be your dowager' > (Fred) etc mini-threads... there was nothing wrong with the original > thread, but now it's broken up into a billion parts instead of neatly > together. I think this was done on purpose to reply to individuals. (Got the hint from the PING Wertz thread) There followed netiquette and so on... Sarah |
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In article >,
Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: > Please don't rename threads unless you're changing the topic of > discussion. I don't know how other newsreaders work, but Agent threads > posts by title, so now I have a screen FULL of 'can I be your dowager' > (Fred) etc mini-threads... there was nothing wrong with the original > thread, but now it's broken up into a billion parts instead of neatly > together. I simply killfiled it. ;-) -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
> Please don't rename threads unless you're changing the topic of > discussion. I don't know how other newsreaders work, but Agent threads > posts by title, so now I have a screen FULL of 'can I be your dowager' > (Fred) etc mini-threads... there was nothing wrong with the original > thread, but now it's broken up into a billion parts instead of neatly > together. I asked this question to Wertz and haven't gotten an answer so I'll ask you too. On my system (mozilla on a Linux platform), if I reply to a thread, I have the opportunity to change the subject line. I did that on the thread titled "montreal." I changed it to "Montreal" a couple times. The changed subject line remains in the same thread. Did that start a new thread on your system? When I hit "compose," I can type in the same subject line, but it will show up in a different thread. I don't do that often. Usually when I hit "compose," it is because I want to start a new thread, and I give it a new subject line. Your system does it differently? It seems to me that changing the subject line ought to be a good thing. I love it when the subject line changes to reflect the contents of a post. It makes it so much easier for me to decide what to read and what to delete without reading. --Lia |
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Julia Altshuler said...
> Your system does it differently? It seems to me that changing the > subject line ought to be a good thing. I love it when the subject line > changes to reflect the contents of a post. It makes it so much easier > for me to decide what to read and what to delete without reading. If you change a subject line, all servers will see it that way and everyone reading will see it. You correctly noticed when the thread has tangented with enough interest, that's a fine time for the "new subject" Was "old subject." change to a new thread. It's considered good etiquette to clue readers in to the change this way. A typo as in "My favorite hambuger" in the subject guarantees that it renders it and any replies unsearchable when hunting for "hamburgers." That's also a perfect time to rename a thread once you notice a typo. I've corrected a few subject lines of others posters to get it back on track after the original post, but somehow it wasn't appreciated. What's a BUM!!! to do? One habit I've gotten into is I always type my subject line into the body of the message, first, since I can spell check it within the body of the message, then cut and paste it into the subject line without typos. Grammar is another matter. ![]() You can always practice by posting messages to the alt.test (text matter only) or alt.test.binaries (binary w/text matter) newsgroups on your server. All the best, Andy |
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On Aug 15, 12:46 pm, Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote:
> Please don't rename threads unless you're changing the topic of > discussion. I don't know how other newsreaders work, but Agent threads > posts by title, so now I have a screen FULL of 'can I be your dowager' > (Fred) etc mini-threads... there was nothing wrong with the original > thread, but now it's broken up into a billion parts instead of neatly > together. How about just starting new threads instead of hijacking existing ones? |
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mooncup wrote:
> On Aug 15, 12:46 pm, Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: >> Please don't rename threads unless you're changing the topic of >> discussion. I don't know how other newsreaders work, but Agent threads >> posts by title, so now I have a screen FULL of 'can I be your dowager' >> (Fred) etc mini-threads... there was nothing wrong with the original >> thread, but now it's broken up into a billion parts instead of neatly >> together. > > How about just starting new threads instead of hijacking existing ones? > How about people just emailing the personal responses to the other party directly instead? Wouldn't that be more direct and save everyone else any trouble? |
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![]() <sf> wrote > Some people think they are being smart by putting up totally > inaccessible addresses. I think it's downright juvenal in this day > and age. ISPs allow multiple mailboxes and there is a slew of web > based email like gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc, so there is no need to > munge anymore. The best idea of course is to hide your address so > that it's not up for public view, but even the most net savvy posters > here don't seem to have a clue. > I set up this mail box just for Usenet. It's all I use it for. Anyone can reach me, but nobody can muck up my usual mailbox. |
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mooncup > wrote: > On Aug 15, 12:46 pm, Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: > > Please don't rename threads unless you're changing the topic of > > discussion. I don't know how other newsreaders work, but Agent threads > > posts by title, so now I have a screen FULL of 'can I be your dowager' > > (Fred) etc mini-threads... there was nothing wrong with the original > > thread, but now it's broken up into a billion parts instead of neatly > > together. > > How about just starting new threads instead of hijacking existing ones? Thread Drift happens... -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article >, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:25:39 -0400, Goomba38 > > wrote: > > >How about people just emailing the personal responses to the other party > >directly instead? Wouldn't that be more direct and save everyone else > >any trouble? > > That would be just peachy if people posted with valid email > addresses.... as it is, it's kinda hard to email a private thanks to > or > > Some people think they are being smart by putting up totally > inaccessible addresses. I think it's downright juvenal in this day > and age. ISPs allow multiple mailboxes and there is a slew of web > based email like gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc, so there is no need to > munge anymore. The best idea of course is to hide your address so > that it's not up for public view, but even the most net savvy posters > here don't seem to have a clue. What I do is working fine for me. I gently spam proof it and put the "clue" in my sig. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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<sf> wrote in message
... > On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:25:39 -0400, Goomba38 > > > wrote: > > Some people think they are being smart by putting up totally > inaccessible addresses. I think it's downright juvenal in > this day > and age. ISPs allow multiple mailboxes and there is a slew of > web > based email like gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc, so there is no > need to > munge anymore. The best idea of course is to hide your > address so > that it's not up for public view, but even the most net savvy > posters > here don't seem to have a clue. > > Many people, like myself, use an obvious misspelling. It's really only meant to beat spamming robot programs not someone who really wishes to get in touch and I have found it quite satisfactory. -- Jim Silverton Potomac, Maryland |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:17:57 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote: >On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:29:07 -0700, sf wrote: > >> Some people think they are being smart by putting up totally >> inaccessible addresses. I think it's downright juvenal in this day >> and age. ISPs allow multiple mailboxes and there is a slew of web >> based email like gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc, so there is no need to >> munge anymore. The best idea of course is to hide your address so >> that it's not up for public view, but even the most net savvy posters >> here don't seem to have a clue. > >The whole idea is to not receive spam. Ironically, this address receives the least spam of all (I have four).... maybe one a month. -- See return address to reply by email |
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sf wrote:
> Ironically, this address receives the least spam of all (I have > four).... maybe one a month. Wow, you are so lucky. I get lots of spam every day. Apparently "Russian Women" are anxious to meet me, I feel inadequate compared to other men, my Viagra order is ready, and plenty of people are trying to send me greeting cards. I use Postini and they keep the spam and the viruses away from my computer. Becca |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:55 -0500, Becca > wrote:
>sf wrote: > >> Ironically, this address receives the least spam of all (I have >> four).... maybe one a month. > >Wow, you are so lucky. I get lots of spam every day. Apparently "Russian >Women" are anxious to meet me, I feel inadequate compared to other men, >my Viagra order is ready, and plenty of people are trying to send me >greeting cards. I use Postini and they keep the spam and the viruses >away from my computer. > I'm not sure why I'm getting so little, but I assure you that I am. Here I am all set up with a spam catcher address and it doesn't get much exercise. -- See return address to reply by email |
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Steve Wertz wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:55 -0500, Becca wrote: > >> plenty of people are trying to send me greeting cards. > > I've been getting a ton of those lately. They want you to > download a virus/trojan that turns your machine into one of their > own personal spam generators. > > -sw Too bad these people do not use their skills in a positive way. Becca |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:01:26 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote: >On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:55 -0500, Becca wrote: > >> plenty of people are trying to send me greeting cards. > >I've been getting a ton of those lately. They want you to >download a virus/trojan that turns your machine into one of their >own personal spam generators. > >-sw lately i've been getting e-mails with just a header and a .pdf attachment. i don't open them, but can a virus hide in one? your pal, blake |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:18:28 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote: >On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:01:26 GMT, Steve Wertz > wrote: > >>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:55 -0500, Becca wrote: >> >>> plenty of people are trying to send me greeting cards. >> >>I've been getting a ton of those lately. They want you to >>download a virus/trojan that turns your machine into one of their >>own personal spam generators. >> >>-sw > >lately i've been getting e-mails with just a header and a .pdf >attachment. i don't open them, but can a virus hide in one? > You didn't scan the attachments? -- See return address to reply by email |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:29:39 -0700, sf wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:18:28 GMT, blake murphy > >wrote: > >>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:01:26 GMT, Steve Wertz > wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:55 -0500, Becca wrote: >>> >>>> plenty of people are trying to send me greeting cards. >>> >>>I've been getting a ton of those lately. They want you to >>>download a virus/trojan that turns your machine into one of their >>>own personal spam generators. >>> >>>-sw >> >>lately i've been getting e-mails with just a header and a .pdf >>attachment. i don't open them, but can a virus hide in one? >> >You didn't scan the attachments? **** no. somebody i've never heard of sends me a .pdf about god knows what? i delete them. your pal, blake |
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In article >,
Goomba38 > wrote: > mooncup wrote: > > On Aug 15, 12:46 pm, Karen AKA Kajikit > wrote: > >> Please don't rename threads unless you're changing the topic of > >> discussion. I don't know how other newsreaders work, but Agent threads > >> posts by title, so now I have a screen FULL of 'can I be your dowager' > >> (Fred) etc mini-threads... there was nothing wrong with the original > >> thread, but now it's broken up into a billion parts instead of neatly > >> together. > > > > How about just starting new threads instead of hijacking existing ones? > > > How about people just emailing the personal responses to the other party > directly instead? Wouldn't that be more direct and save everyone else > any trouble? Good idea, although many people post no valid Email address because of spam. I post a valid address. I got a half dozen identical spams this morning. It was pretty easy to delete them. |
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blake murphy > wrote: > lately i've been getting e-mails with just a header and a .pdf > attachment. i don't open them, but can a virus hide in one? Can't answer your question, but I assume that spam filters can't read ..pdf and .gif files, so they don't get filtered by my ISP. |
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Omelet > wrote: > I simply killfiled it. ;-) But what did you killfile? I have 19 options. |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:32:51 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote: >On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:29:39 -0700, sf wrote: > >>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:18:28 GMT, blake murphy > >>wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:01:26 GMT, Steve Wertz > wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:55 -0500, Becca wrote: >>>> >>>>> plenty of people are trying to send me greeting cards. >>>> >>>>I've been getting a ton of those lately. They want you to >>>>download a virus/trojan that turns your machine into one of their >>>>own personal spam generators. >>>> >>>>-sw >>> >>>lately i've been getting e-mails with just a header and a .pdf >>>attachment. i don't open them, but can a virus hide in one? >>> >>You didn't scan the attachments? > >**** no. somebody i've never heard of sends me a .pdf about god knows >what? i delete them. > In most cases, your AV scans incoming and outgoing messages automatically. Are you really saying you don't have an AV? -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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![]() "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message ... <cut to the tasty part> > ObFood: Dinner was a spicy chicken stuffed avocado, deep fried, > and topped with chipotle sauce and cheese. You keep coming up with ideas like that you may just find yourself back in my good graces. Felice |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:24:52 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote: >On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:42:49 -0700, sf wrote: > >> In most cases, your AV scans incoming and outgoing messages >> automatically. Are you really saying you don't have an AV? > >I don't. Never had, never will. And I've never had a virus (or >a trojan (no, not the rubber) for more than a couple minutes). > I might continue to be interested if you had AV, but since you don't care - why should I? -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:52:03 -0400, "Felice Friese"
> wrote: > >"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message ... > ><cut to the tasty part> > >> ObFood: Dinner was a spicy chicken stuffed avocado, deep fried, >> and topped with chipotle sauce and cheese. > >You keep coming up with ideas like that you may just find yourself back in >my good graces. > He should have stopped at "chicken stuffed", but I'd like to know if it was a mayonaise based chicken stuffing. -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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>, Dan Abel > wrote: > In article >, > Omelet > wrote: > > > > I simply killfiled it. ;-) > > But what did you killfile? I have 19 options. What was I saying again? I wish you would quote just a LITTLE more! I generally do key word killfiles or simply pick "kill this subject". -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:42:49 -0700, sf wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:32:51 GMT, blake murphy > >wrote: > >>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:29:39 -0700, sf wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:18:28 GMT, blake murphy > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:01:26 GMT, Steve Wertz > wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:55 -0500, Becca wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> plenty of people are trying to send me greeting cards. >>>>> >>>>>I've been getting a ton of those lately. They want you to >>>>>download a virus/trojan that turns your machine into one of their >>>>>own personal spam generators. >>>>> >>>>>-sw >>>> >>>>lately i've been getting e-mails with just a header and a .pdf >>>>attachment. i don't open them, but can a virus hide in one? >>>> >>>You didn't scan the attachments? >> >>**** no. somebody i've never heard of sends me a .pdf about god knows >>what? i delete them. >> >In most cases, your AV scans incoming and outgoing messages >automatically. Are you really saying you don't have an AV? nope. i'm careful about what i open. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:31:04 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote: >On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:53:07 -0700, sf wrote: > >>> >> He should have stopped at "chicken stuffed", but I'd like to know if >> it was a mayonaise based chicken stuffing. > >You would, would you? > ![]() fried avocado is still mind boggling - even the next day. Those crazy Texans. -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:57:49 -0500, Omelet >
wrote: >I generally do key word killfiles or simply pick "kill this subject". Me too. I kill nothing in my email and I'd get bored reading the list if I had any more options than subject and author in my news reader. Key word kills come when the authors & subjects morph and return. -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:45:33 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote: >On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:42:49 -0700, sf wrote: > >>On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:32:51 GMT, blake murphy > >>wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:29:39 -0700, sf wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:18:28 GMT, blake murphy > >>>>wrote: >>>>You didn't scan the attachments? >>> >>>**** no. somebody i've never heard of sends me a .pdf about god knows >>>what? i delete them. >>> >>In most cases, your AV scans incoming and outgoing messages >>automatically. Are you really saying you don't have an AV? > >nope. i'm careful about what i open. > Why did you bring up this subject? You don't have AV, you don't open what you think is virus generated email. So what? -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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In article >, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:57:49 -0500, Omelet > > wrote: > > >I generally do key word killfiles or simply pick "kill this subject". > > Me too. I kill nothing in my email and I'd get bored reading the list > if I had any more options than subject and author in my news reader. > Key word kills come when the authors & subjects morph and return. I find "newsgroups" to be helpful in some cases. That's how I got rid of Chung, who changed subjects and his name quite often, but *always* crossposted to sci.med.cardiology. |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:44:30 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>In article >, sf wrote: > >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:57:49 -0500, Omelet > >> wrote: >> >> >I generally do key word killfiles or simply pick "kill this subject". >> >> Me too. I kill nothing in my email and I'd get bored reading the list >> if I had any more options than subject and author in my news reader. >> Key word kills come when the authors & subjects morph and return. > >I find "newsgroups" to be helpful in some cases. That's how I got rid >of Chung, who changed subjects and his name quite often, but *always* >crossposted to sci.med.cardiology. I'm not sure if this old version of my newsreader can do that. Just doing key word kills did the trick for me. -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:59:25 -0700, sf wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:44:30 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote: > >>In article >, sf wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:57:49 -0500, Omelet > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >I generally do key word killfiles or simply pick "kill this subject". >>> >>> Me too. I kill nothing in my email and I'd get bored reading the list >>> if I had any more options than subject and author in my news reader. >>> Key word kills come when the authors & subjects morph and return. >> >>I find "newsgroups" to be helpful in some cases. That's how I got rid >>of Chung, who changed subjects and his name quite often, but *always* >>crossposted to sci.med.cardiology. > >I'm not sure if this old version of my newsreader can do that. Just >doing key word kills did the trick for me. sf, you might look into newsproxy, which i think can do this. it can also filter anything cross-posted to more than x number of groups, which i've found handles chung pretty nicely. it's a program you launch before launching agent, and it does a pre-screening before agent's own filters kick in. it can be used with other newsreaders and o.e., netscape and some other browsers as well. http://www.nfilter.org/ your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:22:00 -0700, sf wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:45:33 GMT, blake murphy > >wrote: > >>On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:42:49 -0700, sf wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:32:51 GMT, blake murphy > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:29:39 -0700, sf wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:18:28 GMT, blake murphy > >>>>>wrote: > >>>>>You didn't scan the attachments? >>>> >>>>**** no. somebody i've never heard of sends me a .pdf about god knows >>>>what? i delete them. >>>> >>>In most cases, your AV scans incoming and outgoing messages >>>automatically. Are you really saying you don't have an AV? >> >>nope. i'm careful about what i open. >> >Why did you bring up this subject? You don't have AV, you don't open >what you think is virus generated email. So what? just curious. i know there are some people here more computer-savvy than me. also wondering whether others get this type of mail. thanks for asking though. your pal, blake |
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:35:25 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote: >On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:59:25 -0700, sf wrote: >> >>I'm not sure if this old version of my newsreader can do that. Just >>doing key word kills did the trick for me. > >sf, you might look into newsproxy, which i think can do this. it can >also filter anything cross-posted to more than x number of groups, >which i've found handles chung pretty nicely. it's a program you >launch before launching agent, and it does a pre-screening before >agent's own filters kick in. it can be used with other newsreaders >and o.e., netscape and some other browsers as well. > >http://www.nfilter.org/ > Thanks! I'll give it a look. -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:38:06 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote: >On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:22:00 -0700, sf wrote: > >>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:45:33 GMT, blake murphy > >>wrote: >> <snip> >>> >>>nope. i'm careful about what i open. >>> >>Why did you bring up this subject? You don't have AV, you don't open >>what you think is virus generated email. So what? > >just curious. i know there are some people here more computer-savvy >than me. also wondering whether others get this type of mail. > >thanks for asking though. > Oh, ok.... the short answer is "no". -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:19:19 -0700, sf wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:35:25 GMT, blake murphy > >wrote: > >>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:59:25 -0700, sf wrote: >>> >>>I'm not sure if this old version of my newsreader can do that. Just >>>doing key word kills did the trick for me. >> >>sf, you might look into newsproxy, which i think can do this. it can >>also filter anything cross-posted to more than x number of groups, >>which i've found handles chung pretty nicely. it's a program you >>launch before launching agent, and it does a pre-screening before >>agent's own filters kick in. it can be used with other newsreaders >>and o.e., netscape and some other browsers as well. >> >>http://www.nfilter.org/ >> >Thanks! I'll give it a look. it's pretty easy to use. (i know some will say 'get a better newsreader,' but i'm happy with my ancient agent otherwise. old habits, etc.) your pal, blake |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:53:05 -0500, Steve Wertz
> wrote: >On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:59:25 GMT, blake murphy wrote: > >> it's pretty easy to use. (i know some will say 'get a better >> newsreader,' but i'm happy with my ancient agent otherwise. old >> habits, etc.) > >It just gets worse after 1.9x. That's why I moved to 40tude >Dialog. > >-sw well then, maybe it's a good think they wouldn't upgrade me for free. your pal, blake |
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One time on Usenet, Steve Wertz > said:
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:59:25 GMT, blake murphy wrote: > > > it's pretty easy to use. (i know some will say 'get a better > > newsreader,' but i'm happy with my ancient agent otherwise. old > > habits, etc.) > > It just gets worse after 1.9x. That's why I moved to 40tude > Dialog. Heh, I'm still using NewsXpress, which hasn't been updated or supported since 1997. But it works, and it's very simple. I guess I like simple... ;-) -- Jani in WA |
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