Hi,

I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
"disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot. Anyone used it? Is
aliuminum safe to cook food at high temperature? On the back side of
the product it saids it should not be used at temperature higher than
500.

Thanks,

ff

"finecur" > wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot. Anyone used it? Is
> aliuminum safe to cook food at high temperature? On the back side of
> the product it saids it should not be used at temperature higher than
> 500.
>
> Thanks,

The 500 degree limit is a killer for me. I like to grill steaks and burgers
as hot as I can. It may be OK for some other uses.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:51:14 -0500, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:29 -0700, finecur wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
>> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot.
>
>Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
>turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
>and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
>wire grill brush to them. All done.
>
>They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
>them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
>sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
>just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
>
>This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.
>
I agree.... why people want everthing looking like it just came out of
the box is beyond me.


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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:51:14 -0500, Steve Wertz
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:29 -0700, finecur wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
>>> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot.
>> Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
>> turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
>> and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
>> wire grill brush to them. All done.
>>
>> They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
>> them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
>> sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
>> just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
>>
>> This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.
>>
> I agree.... why people want everthing looking like it just came out of
> the box is beyond me.
>
>
I think its all of the cutesy commercial cleaner marketing about
everything needing to be sparkling clean and "germ free".

I know people who literally do minimal cooking because of the fear of
getting a drop of something on the stove or "dirtying" the grill.

Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
> turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
> and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
> wire grill brush to them. All done.

Quite so.
>
> They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
> them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
> sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
> just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
>
> This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.

Don't think so. Haven't seen anything about this under the "Distilled Wisdom
on Equipment" section which covers this sort of thing. Maybe we should ask
Victor to add something in there?
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"George" > wrote in message
news
>
> I know people who literally do minimal cooking because of the fear of
> getting a drop of something on the stove or "dirtying" the grill.

That was the way our kitchen was when we bought the house several years ago.
I surely made short-work of that. It doesn't take long if one cooks a lot
to reduce a kitchen to muck, even if one has fairly decent clean-up habits.
First there was the formica burn on the counter tops, then the burn on the
vinyl floor where I dropped a burning wok (in a panic) to the floor; the
stove that I could never really get clean quickly enough before starting the
next meal; The dishwasher gets used sometimes twice a day --

I will 'not' be a slave to cleaning the spots off my stainless steel,and the
black cook top!
Dee Dee

On Aug 19, 10:08?pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
> "finecur" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
> > "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot. Anyone used it? Is
> > aliuminum safe to cook food at high temperature? On the back side of
> > the product it saids it should not be used at temperature higher than
> > 500.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> The 500 degree limit is a killer for me. I like to grill steaks and burgers
> as hot as I can. It may be OK for some other uses.

Those pans go at the very bottom of the grill, under the heat source,
it doesn't get nearly as hot there as at the upper levels. But I
haven't tried them, it's no big deal to scrape out the built up grease
with a putty knife, not all of it makes it's way to the grease
collector. It doesn't need to be brand new clean but it's a good idea
to scrap out the majority of build up once or twice a season to
prevent grill fires plus that grease goes rancid and does impart a
nasty odor to whatever is cooked. Cleaning the grates is an entirely
different issue (heat and wire brush is usually enough) but it's wise
to keep the fire box reasonably clean too, and most people neglect
that. .. I suppose is why they came up with those liner pans.

Sheldon

On Aug 19, 10:51?pm, Steve Wertz > wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:29 -0700, finecur wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
> > "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot.
>
> Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
> turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
> and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
> wire grill brush to them. All done.
>
> They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
> them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
> sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
> just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
>
> This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.
>
> -sw

Yeah, the lovely smoke flavor imparted by rancid grease.

Some people can always rationalize their filthy living habits, one can
only imagine the crusty swertz lavatory facilities.

Sheldon

I have used them. They are ok. You do need to oil them and they will
blow off in a light breeze. Well, it's always windy where I live so you
have to be quick getting the food on it.

We don't do the searing over 500 degree heat on our grill so I can't say
what might happen to them at that high temp.

marcella

In article . com>,
finecur > wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot. Anyone used it? Is
> aliuminum safe to cook food at high temperature? On the back side of
> the product it saids it should not be used at temperature higher than
> 500.
>
> Thanks,
>
> ff

Sheldon wrote:
>
> Some people can always rationalize their filthy living habits, one can
> only imagine the crusty swertz lavatory facilities.

So, you gonna post pictures of your toilets? I can't wait.
--
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Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > Some people can always rationalize their filthy living habits, one can
> > only imagine the crusty swertz lavatory facilities.
>
> So, you gonna post pictures of your toilets? I can't wait.

I wouldn't be ashamed to. :-)
But it'd be inappropriate for a cooking list...

except, hm, what is the "end product" of all the food we eat?
Would that make it on topic?

Om -> ducking and running!!!
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Sheldon wrote:
> On Aug 19, 10:51?pm, Steve Wertz > wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:29 -0700, finecur wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
>>> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot.
>> Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
>> turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
>> and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
>> wire grill brush to them. All done.
>>
>> They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
>> them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
>> sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
>> just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
>>
>> This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Yeah, the lovely smoke flavor imparted by rancid grease.

Do you just make stuff up? The slick black coating is because of
polymerization and is the original non-stick coating and is the very
same effect you achieve when seasoning a cast iron frying pan.

>
> Some people can always rationalize their filthy living habits, one can
> only imagine the crusty swertz lavatory facilities.
>
> Sheldon
>
>

In article >,
George > wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
> > On Aug 19, 10:51?pm, Steve Wertz > wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:29 -0700, finecur wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
> >>> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot.
> >> Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
> >> turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
> >> and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
> >> wire grill brush to them. All done.
> >>
> >> They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
> >> them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
> >> sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
> >> just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
> >>
> >> This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > Yeah, the lovely smoke flavor imparted by rancid grease.
>
> Do you just make stuff up? The slick black coating is because of
> polymerization and is the original non-stick coating and is the very
> same effect you achieve when seasoning a cast iron frying pan.
>

Shel' does not believe in seasoned cast iron either. ;-)
He uses non-stick or stainless.

As for me, my grills are pre-coated and I soak them after grilling.
Personal preference. I don't like cruddy grills.

They are oil brushed prior to putting stuff on them.
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:50:36 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> Some people can always rationalize their filthy living habits, one can
>> only imagine the crusty swertz lavatory facilities.
>
>So, you gonna post pictures of your toilets? I can't wait.

since sheldon exudes vitriol, i'd imagine they're pretty clean.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:50:36 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>>Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> Some people can always rationalize their filthy living habits, one can
>>> only imagine the crusty swertz lavatory facilities.
>>
>>So, you gonna post pictures of your toilets? I can't wait.
>
> since sheldon exudes vitriol, i'd imagine they're pretty clean.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Some people let their cats lick them clean!
Dee Dee

On Aug 20, 10:50?am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> > Some people can always rationalize their filthy living habits, one can
> > only imagine the crusty swertz lavatory facilities.
>
> So, you gonna post pictures of your toilets? I can't wait.

Actually I have... not recently, but like less than three years ago.
My loos are prepared for white glove inspection anytime. I even have
those solid plastic terlit seats, about once a month I remove them so
I can even sanitize the space under the bolts, I hand scrub them with
lavender scented Fabuloso:

http://www.cleansweepsupply.com/page...roup34586.html

My ass smells as sweet as your cleavage! LOL

Sheldon

On Aug 20, 11:46?am, George > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > On Aug 19, 10:51?pm, Steve Wertz > wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:29 -0700, finecur wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
> >>> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot.
> >> Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
> >> turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
> >> and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
> >> wire grill brush to them. All done.
>
> >> They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
> >> them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
> >> sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
> >> just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
>
> >> This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.
>
> >> -sw
>
> > Yeah, the lovely smoke flavor imparted by rancid grease.
>
> Do you just make stuff up? The slick black coating is because of
> polymerization and is the original non-stick coating and is the very
> same effect you achieve when seasoning a cast iron frying pan.

You idiot, there's much more to cleaning a grill than the grates...
those liners this thread is about pertains to lining the bottom of the
grill, has nothing whatsoever to do with grates, in fact in my
previous post I concurred how the grates just need heating and wire
bushing. It's not necessary to make any portion of a grill like brand
new but it's a good idea to scrape away the built up crud. Try to
keep up.

Sheldon

On Aug 20, 12:24?pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
>
>
>
>
>
> George > wrote:
> > Sheldon wrote:
> > > On Aug 19, 10:51?pm, Steve Wertz > wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:29 -0700, finecur wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
> > >>> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot.
> > >> Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
> > >> turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
> > >> and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
> > >> wire grill brush to them. All done.
>
> > >> They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
> > >> them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
> > >> sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
> > >> just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
>
> > >> This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.
>
> > >> -sw
>
> > > Yeah, the lovely smoke flavor imparted by rancid grease.
>
> > Do you just make stuff up? The slick black coating is because of
> > polymerization and is the original non-stick coating and is the very
> > same effect you achieve when seasoning a cast iron frying pan.
>
> Shel' does not believe in seasoned cast iron either. ;-)
> He uses non-stick or stainless.

I never said I don't use cast iron cookware because of the seasoning.
And I do not use non-stick coated, I don't own any... I use carbon
steel fry pans, they're seasoned exactly the same as cast iron, but
only a roid-rage idiot would rather risk a hernia pumping cast iron..
I'm just not into antique cookware... using cast iron cookware is
tantamount to using smoke signals to communicate. I do use nonstick
bakeware however, I have an extensive collection of Nordicware and
Chicago Metallic. I do own a cast iron gingerbread house baking mold,
and it does have a nonstick coating.

Sheldon

"sf" wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:51:14 -0500, Steve Wertz
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:29 -0700, finecur wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I enjoy BBQ but hate to clean the grill. Today, I found this
>>> "disposable aliuminum grill liner" in HomeDepot.
>>
>>Cleaning the grill is one of the easiest things on earth. You
>>turn on the heat, whether is be gas, electric, or charcoal fired
>>and let the grates heat up for 5-10 minutes. Then you take a
>>wire grill brush to them. All done.
>>
>>They do not have to be very clean. The more gunk you leave on
>>them, the more flavor you get in the end product. It's all
>>sanitized by the heat. Some people don'r even use the brush -
>>just heat it up and burn the gunk black and it's ready to go.
>>
>>This should be int he FAQ if it's not already.
>>
> I agree.... why people want everthing looking like it just came out of
> the box is beyond me.
>

You do know that there are people that scrub their cast-iron, don't you.
Same principle.
;-)

BOB

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:11:59 -0400, " BOB" > wrote:

>You do know that there are people that scrub their cast-iron, don't you.
>Same principle.
>;-)

Thanks....

<sigh>
sad that it goes beyond the kitchen.



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In article . com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> > Shel' does not believe in seasoned cast iron either. ;-)
> > He uses non-stick or stainless.
>
> I never said I don't use cast iron cookware because of the seasoning.
> And I do not use non-stick coated, I don't own any... I use carbon
> steel fry pans, they're seasoned exactly the same as cast iron, but
> only a roid-rage idiot would rather risk a hernia pumping cast iron..
> I'm just not into antique cookware... using cast iron cookware is
> tantamount to using smoke signals to communicate. I do use nonstick
> bakeware however, I have an extensive collection of Nordicware and
> Chicago Metallic. I do own a cast iron gingerbread house baking mold,
> and it does have a nonstick coating.
>
> Sheldon

Ah, my bad...

I thought you did not like the idea of using a "dirty" pan.

I actually do use soap and a soft brush on my Griswold to clean it and I
often (but not always) clean it hot. If hot, it goes back on the hot
stove surface to get a quick dry over the still hot burner.

I used to re-oil it afterwards but the seasoning is stable enough now
that I no longer have to do that. Any sign of rust tho' and it gets
oiled, usually olive oil with a paper towel.

Soaping not hurt the seasoning one bit. It's not like I use a pot
scrubbie or anything!

As for BBQ grills, it depends. If they look really cruddy to me, I may
soak them for a bit before using them. I know that crud will burn off,
but I just don't like old ash on my food!

I always line the bottom of my grill under the fire. It makes it a LOT
easier to clean the ash out. I just use heavy duty aluminum foil, double
layer.
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"sf" wrote in message ...
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:11:59 -0400, " BOB" > wrote:
>
>>You do know that there are people that scrub their cast-iron, don't you.
>>Same principle.
>>;-)
>
> Thanks....

Y.W. ;-)

>
> <sigh>
> sad that it goes beyond the kitchen.
>

Sad, yes. But predictable.

BOB